In this episode, Danny Brown interviews Gareth Davies, a media composer and audio producer at The Sound Boutique. Gareth shares his experience working on TV shows like "Toad & Friends" and "Scream Street" and discusses the challenges and rewards of composing music for these productions.
They also delve into Gareth's main podcast, "The Music Room," which serves as a valuable resource for musicians and composers, offering insights, advice, and a supportive community. Additionally, they explore Gareth's other podcast, "Podcasting People," which focuses on the podcasting industry and features interviews with various professionals in the field.
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"I love the teamwork that happens around productions, much the same as podcast productions. You have a team where you're getting everything together and working towards the same goal." - Gareth Davis
"The Music Room is for people entering the industry who might feel a bit daunted by it. It's for people trying to navigate their way through their careers." - Gareth Davis
"Podcasting People is about gaining insights, speaking to people working in the industry, and bringing people together to put human faces on these roles." - Gareth Davis
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Hi, I'm Danny Brown and welcome to. My other podcast is the show that
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Danny:super grateful. And now this week's episode. Hi, I'm Danny Brown and
Danny:welcome to my other podcast is the show that brings you podcaster stories
Danny:around the world to talk about their other podcasts, the one that's completely
Danny:different from their main show. Today I'm joined by Gareth Davis from Shepperton
Danny:in the UK. Gareth is a media composer and also an audio producer at the
Danny:Sound Boutique, an award winning audio production company whose work
Danny:can be heard in numerous mediums, including tv. Gareth's main podcast
Danny:is a music room, which we'll talk about shortly. And his other podcast.
Danny:Well, we'll talk about that shortly too. But first, Gareth, welcome to
Danny:my other podcasts.
Gareth:Thanks, Danny. Thanks so much for having me.
Danny:It's really good experience and thanks for joining. And I mentioned earlier,
Danny:you're from Shepperton, there's a famous movie studio. There isn't.
Gareth:Yes, it is. We're just down the road from there and recently massively
Gareth:expanded. So there's the balance of people who are outcrying at the
Gareth:lorries wheeling past. But obviously it's good for the economy, local
Gareth:economy, to up the trade and all that. But yeah, legendary. I still
Gareth:feel a little bit in awe from being. When I go past the sign, it's.
Danny:Really good when you think of some of the James, some of the James Bond
Danny:movies shot there, the early ones.
Gareth:I feel, for sure. Yes, it will mean, yeah, a lot of the Hollywood films
Gareth:have been here, but it's got a massive, like you say, there's a rich history
Gareth:attached to it. So you can go back and actually a fellow composer of
Gareth:mine, Keith Hopwood, who was the guitarist in Herman's Hermits, I
Gareth:don't know if anyone.
Danny:Yes, I do something.
Gareth:Yeah, yeah. So we met as know, Keith's older now, but he was saying, I remember
Gareth:filming films with the Herman's Hermits back in the day and staying in such
Gareth:and such hotel and all that. Yeah, quite amazing. Tom Jones as well,
Gareth:I think was a local resident. Tom Jones legend filming.
Danny:Yeah, now you got me jealous. Now I'm going to have to go back and
Danny:listen to my Tom Jones Spotify playlist. Love that guy. Amazing.
Gareth:Well, it's not unusual.
Danny:Okay, we're going to keep the puns and we're going to have a run encounter
Danny:of how many puns we can get into this episode. So, as I mentioned
Danny:at the start, obviously we'll talk about the music room, which is your
Danny:main podcast, in a moment. But first I've got to let the audience know
Danny:that you're actually a bona fide celebrity when it comes to audio
Danny:because your work is currently featured on tv shows torn friends on Warner
Danny:Bros. Discovery and Scream street on Children's BBC in the UK CBBC.
Danny:So how's that been working on these shows?
Gareth:It's been know I am a musician primarily. I grew up with all that orchestral
Gareth:training and everything like that. So to work on these shows has been
Gareth:absolutely amazing. I wouldn't call myself a bona fide a celebrity by
Gareth:any means, and in fact, it's quite the opposite. I prefer working in
Gareth:a darkened room away from everyone else, but actually contributing to
Gareth:the storytelling that way. I love the teamwork that happens around
Gareth:productions much the same as podcast productions. You have a team where
Gareth:you're getting everything together and working towards the same goal.
Gareth:But yeah, I still pinch myself when I see things that I've put music
Gareth:to on the telly. It's still a great feeling. And the Scream Street Christmas
Gareth:special was another one to see something at Christmas on the tv. Yeah, it's
Gareth:quite something. But I just love that level of storytelling, really.
Gareth:You're contributing something to an overall picture.
Danny:And tone of friends that's based on the classics children's book Wind
Danny:in the willows, which I feel probably every kid in the UK at some stage
Danny:has had access or been introduced to. Wind in the willows. It's an
Danny:amazing book and I'm wondering, does that add any extra pressure because
Danny:you're dealing with such a classic that people know when it comes to
Danny:coming up with a soundtrack for that?
Gareth:Yes is the short answer. The whole production team actually felt that
Gareth:weight of responsibility because it's such an amazing classic property.
Gareth:Yes, we all felt that weight of responsibility, and as such, there was a real open
Gareth:door policy. Everyone wanted to help everyone else, so it was such a joy
Gareth:to work on. It's probably a career highlight for me to work on something
Gareth:like that. I mean, it's wind in the willows. It's such an amazing thing.
Gareth:And actually, I live down the road from where the whole thing is based.
Gareth:So, yeah, for know, I was just in the process of buying a little boat
Gareth:when I pitched for it as well. So I can go down the river here at Shepperton
Gareth:and I'm passing boats called Ratty and toad and things like that. Just
Gareth:quite an amazing thing. But yes, the whole process was wonderful.
Gareth:Loved it.
Danny:I'm not sure we can probably get that here, actually, on Warner Bros
Danny:Discovery. I'd love to cheque that out because I know I'm in Canada,
Danny:obviously, because my accent isn't canadian, but I'm in Canada, so we're
Danny:very different from UK. We get like some BBC channels, et cetera, some
Danny:CBC, but you have to have different apps, so I'd have to cheque that
Danny:out.
Gareth:Yeah, I think it's coming to certainly the UK and the US in the autumn,
Gareth:so you can keep an eye out on there, but I'm sure I'll be shouting about
Gareth:it on the socials.
Danny:I will look out for that for sure. So, as I mentioned at the start,
Danny:Gareth, your main podcast is the music room. But I think, in all honesty,
Danny:I would do a bit of a disservice if I just call it a podcast, because
Danny:it's more a collective than a podcast with various components. So can you
Danny:share the story of the music room and the different parts to it?
Gareth:Yeah, collective is a good word, actually. I think ecosystem as well.
Gareth:But the reason I started podcasting in the first place is because when
Gareth:I became a professional composer, I had no idea how to find resources
Gareth:and which organisations were relevant to me, what best practise looked
Gareth:like. So the music room, really, the podcast is for me twelve years
Gareth:ago, when I became a professional musician. And it's for people entering
Gareth:the industry who might feel a bit daunted by it. It's for people who
Gareth:are trying to navigate their way through their careers. Now, I'm still
Gareth:learning from the amazing guests I have. Most of all, like you said,
Gareth:collective, it's about community, really, bottom line, to be given
Gareth:the chance to mix with other composers, songwriters and musicians, and to
Gareth:help and support each other. So that's really my kind of remit to myself
Gareth:when I'm making any kind of content pod chat podcast.
Danny:And there's a huge. And you mentioned community. There's a large community,
Danny:obviously, over on Substac, where you've got the podcast, you've got
Danny:newsletter, you've got articles, you've got guests, you've got resources.
Danny:What are some of the resources that you offer to people in the space?
Danny:Because obviously it's not just about newcomers, you offer it to all levels
Danny:of expertise.
Gareth:Absolutely. Actually, that's, I feel one of the unique things about it
Gareth:is you can have hobbyist musicians who are just trying things out, rubbing
Gareth:shoulders with kind of veteran composers who've won awards, but without ego,
Gareth:there's no ego involved and people can kind of rub along together in
Gareth:a really helpful and supportive way. And that's really the way I way I
Gareth:conceived it, and it seems to be how it's worked out. But, yeah, since
Gareth:I moved it to substack, because it was a newsletter as well, I thought
Gareth:I wanted some kind of umbrella, some kind of platform to bring everything
Gareth:together. So as a result, I've started another podcast, which is independent
Gareth:music discovery.
Danny:Oh, nice.
Gareth:Which is called music music, available everywhere apart from Spotify. But
Gareth:that's another long story. And then, yes, there's a music media recommendation
Gareth:newsletter called listen, watch, read, which is literally that does
Gareth:what it says on the tin. And then there are other resources. And in
Gareth:fact, the first podcast that I started with a fellow composer, Dan Watts,
Gareth:in 2019, when it all began for me, we agreed yesterday that we would
Gareth:bring that into the music room as well. And that has so many, there
Gareth:are guests in there who work in tv production from every aspect, and
Gareth:there's a whole season there about the journey of the orchestral score
Gareth:from composer all the way to screen. So all those different jobs as well.
Gareth:So hopefully it's becoming a really valuable resource overall for composers,
Gareth:songwriters, musicians.
Danny:And you'd mentioned music, music music, which is a nice segue. I'm
Danny:glad you mentioned that because I was actually going to ask you about
Danny:that. It's one of the things that I like about the resource over at
Danny:the music room is you almost have this podcast within a podcast, which,
Danny:as you mentioned, is music, music, music. But do you see that as a complementary
Danny:project to the music room, or is that a standalone from there?
Gareth:Yeah, it all becomes a little bit meta, doesn't it? But yes, definitely
Gareth:complementary. I see the music room as kind of the flagship show and
Gareth:everything. I wanted to extend the offering, really, to include other
Gareth:things. So music, music, music is about music, funnily enough, whereas
Gareth:a music room podcast is about people. So that's an interview show where
Gareth:I ask people about what they're up to now, the projects, there's news
Gareth:in there, there's community aspects to it as well. And then we go back
Gareth:in time to see how it all began. So it's really about the inspiration
Gareth:behind their musical journeys. At the end of it, they offer an item
Gareth:and a piece of advice, kind of desert island disc style to leave in the
Gareth:music room for others to find. So there's a whole raft of advice as
Gareth:well, which I can draw on for audiograms and such like things.
Danny:So you're the Ken Bruce of podcasting then, Danny?
Gareth:I don't know why I do it.
Danny:Or is that an insult? I apologise.
Gareth:Well, I saw in your description a serial podcaster. I really relate
Gareth:to that because I don't know why we do it to ourselves, but it's kind
Gareth:of addictive, isn't.
Danny:Like I always say. It's like when you get a tattoo, I don't know if
Danny:you got tattoos, but when you get your first one, you always want more.
Danny:And I think I've got about six or seven now.
Gareth:Oh, wow.
Danny:And yeah, podcasting. Yeah, I hear you. Once you start, you're in there.
Gareth:Have you got any podcast tattoos?
Danny:You know what? I don't have, but that's an idea. Interesting. Get
Danny:a sponsor to tattoo me, myotherapodcast.com. Listen on a leg or something that
Danny:has to be all the way down from top to bottom, and people have to squint
Danny:and that could be like weird on the beach, I think. Cause some weird
Danny:issues with the police. I'll give that a miss. Maybe just like the
Danny:little RSS icon or something.
Gareth:Yeah.
Danny:Now it's clear. I mean, obviously you mentioned that you started with
Danny:Dan back in 2019, and you've just said you've now got about three or
Danny:four podcasts. Roundabout, certainly two or three. Roundabout. The music
Danny:room. So obviously you're a fan of podcasting, and podcasting is a big
Danny:part of what you do. And this leads us to your other podcast, which is
Danny:obviously the show, what the show is about and what we're here to talk
Danny:about as well. And this one is called, and this is one that's a little bit
Danny:different from what people might expect. This one's podcasting people,
Danny:which is more of a podcast industry type show or podcast led show. So
Danny:how did that one come about? Because obviously, so far everything's been
Danny:music, music, music.
Gareth:Yeah, absolutely. They are kind of connected in a way, which will become
Gareth:clear. But I found myself, because I've been podcasting since 2019,
Gareth:so it's about five years. And you obviously get good, don't you, at
Gareth:all the aspects? Different aspects, hopefully, anyway. Hopefully, yes.
Gareth:And being an audio professional by trade, I have those things in my
Gareth:skill set anyway, so I was kind of more rerouting, dialogue, editing
Gareth:and things like that came very naturally, and I found myself gaining clients
Gareth:on the podcast side through fixing problematic audio dialogue, editing,
Gareth:repurposing content from video to podcast and things like that. So
Gareth:I've kind of found myself in the same position I was in when I started
Gareth:as a composer, except this time in the rapidly evolving podcast industry.
Gareth:So what better way, what way could there be to gain insights, speak
Gareth:to people working in the industry, and more importantly, bringing people
Gareth:together to put human faces on these roles? What better way to do all
Gareth:that than make a podcast about it? It's just a brilliant way to a network
Gareth:and b learn, share the knowledge with each other. I've had some really
Gareth:lovely comments from industry folk and between guests as well. Guests
Gareth:get to know each other as well. Yeah. So that was really the motivation
Gareth:for it.
Danny:Looking at the guests that have been on there, I know some of the names
Danny:there from the podcast and space, obviously. And the most recent one,
Danny:Tony Doe, I have to say he's got one of the most perfect podcast voices
Danny:I have ever heard.
Gareth:Absolutely right.
Danny:Yeah.
Gareth:I mean, he's just so smooth.
Danny:Yeah, exactly.
Gareth:He's got the late night radio.
Danny:His background is in radio for like 20 years. I think he's mentioned
Danny:he's been in radio, but yeah, whenever I hear Tony speak, it relaxes me.
Danny:I'm ready to listen to whatever that he's going to say.
Gareth:Yeah, very much so. Yeah. I also love the fact that all the guests
Gareth:are different. It's not like I could have made the podcast editor's podcast,
Gareth:right? And I'm sure that would have been brilliant. But I wanted a variety
Gareth:of jobs. I love the variety in industry. I used to do a podcast called Creative
Gareth:Couple, which is following all the kind of creative threads through
Gareth:all the different creative jobs, from photographers to music to art
Gareth:to whatever it might be. So I love that variety of things. So I actually
Gareth:ask each guest what they love about podcasts and podcasting, and there's
Gareth:always some of them answers are quite similar, but there's always something
Gareth:a little bit different from a different perspective. So hopefully there's
Gareth:an overall picture that's good.
Danny:And what I like about the format as well, it's an interesting little
Danny:format because the episodes are fairly short. They're about round about
Danny:five, maybe 6 minutes long, with an occasional slightly longer bit.
Danny:The episodes are pretty short, but they also don't have a host per se.
Danny:They don't have you introducing the show. They don't have you bookmarking
Danny:the guests, et cetera. The guest is essential as the host on each
Danny:episode. And as you mentioned, talk about a topic that's relevant to
Danny:them and they share their expertise and a takeaway for listeners. So
Danny:I'm curious, was that something that was deliberate from the start that
Danny:might sound like a really stupid question, or where did that idea
Danny:come from to just have the guest as the host every episode?
Gareth:Yeah, well, it's a little bit of a mantra of mine, which I'm sure
Gareth:a lot of podcasters find, which is, it's not about me, it's never about
Gareth:me. I'm sure there are kind of monologue style podcasts where of course it's
Gareth:about the person sharing their thoughts, but for something like this, I felt
Gareth:it was the guest giving advice to the listener. It's nothing to do
Gareth:with me, really. I'm just there to facilitate that process. I also like
Gareth:the idea of guests kind of taking ownership of an episode. I'm there
Gareth:to produce and guide them through it, but essentially they're putting
Gareth:out a kind of minisode, or whatever you like to call it, and feel that
Gareth:pride in what they've done. So it's them from start to finish. I'm actually
Gareth:going to put out a new trailer. I gather the comments at the end, the
Gareth:outros and things like that, but I always ask them to do a couple
Gareth:of lines which are put into a little trailer. So I'm about to update that
Gareth:and it's really lovely, them all saying, hi, I'm so and so. And then
Gareth:at the end and you're listening to podcasting, people find it here and
Gareth:it's them saying it. And I really love that. So the short answer is,
Gareth:yeah, it's not about me, it's about them speaking to the listener.
Danny:And as you mentioned, obviously the episode length is fairly short. It's
Danny:about four or 5 minutes on average. Was that the format of the show?
Danny:Did it come by based on the answers? Did you always have it in mind it
Danny:was going to be a very short episode for each guest and keep it like that?
Danny:Or was it more organic? How did that come about from that side?
Gareth:Yeah, it was always the intention. I don't know whether it's because
Gareth:we're living in a TikTok world and we're anything over 5 minutes and
Gareth:the attention span goes. I think it was more. I've had this kind of
Gareth:this ideology of trim the fat ever since I was playing in a band and
Gareth:we were writing songs together. There's always this idea of, if it's not
Gareth:necessary, why is it in there? So I was really thinking about that
Gareth:as well. How do I get to the guts of this thing? And that's part of
Gareth:the reason I'm not in there myself. They don't want to hear from me.
Gareth:Let's get right to the core really quickly. And for an industry podcast,
Gareth:yes, you can have a conversational thing like this. I mean, it's really
Gareth:nice because there's a bit of banter and it's back and forth, and that's
Gareth:kind of fun, and you feel like you're in and on a conversation when you're
Gareth:listening. But for an industry podcast about giving tips and advice, I wanted
Gareth:to get straight to it, let people listen to it before another podcast
Gareth:on their way home or something like that. So, yeah, it was always my
Gareth:intention to keep it short, snappy and to the point. Absolutely.
Danny:And it's a fairly new podcast. It launched on October 2023. So last
Danny:year, as we recorded this, what are your goals for it? And are there
Danny:any podcasters or topics that you'd love to, that you really want to
Danny:focus on based on feedback you've had from, say, podcasters you work
Danny:with on your audio production company or just what you see online, that
Danny:kind of thing?
Gareth:That's an interesting one. I suppose coming off, not coming off, being
Gareth:involved in the music room community, that's kind of where I'll get my
Gareth:kicks, is bringing people together. So I suppose a goal for podcasting
Gareth:people would be a community of some description. I am wary of just diving
Gareth:into those kinds of things because podcasting people is as much for
Gareth:me as it is for the listener. Yeah, I kind of count myself as a listener
Gareth:more than a host for podcasting people because I'm learning about the industry
Gareth:as well. As I mentioned before, this industry is fairly new for me. I'm
Gareth:gaining clients, but I haven't really networked a huge amount in the industry,
Gareth:so I'm a bit wary not to mess up that first impression in a way. So
Gareth:my answer to that is just graft, get down to it, keep producing the
Gareth:content. I don't know if content is a dirty word. Keep producing,
Gareth:get those episodes out, get as much advice as possible, and let that
Gareth:work. Speak for itself, really, and see what the response is like over
Gareth:this year. And then, yeah, I'd like to think a community would be good,
Gareth:but then maybe there is a community out there that I'm missing. I don't
Gareth:know. Maybe your listeners can let me know.
Danny:Well, I think that's a great thing about the podcasting space. Like
Danny:you say, I feel it doesn't matter what experience level you're at.
Danny:It's a very open and supportive space, supportive community, and you will
Danny:get the odd outliers, like some OG podcasters from 2004 five or whatever
Danny:that may feel. Well, I've not got time to answer that question. That's
Danny:a very basic question, but we all start somewhere, so I feel that there's
Danny:no basic questions. And for the most part, it's a very supportive community.
Danny:And podcasters are so happy to jump on new shows as well, which obviously
Danny:with some of the guests that you've had on podcasting people, there's
Danny:no ego there, I don't feel. And it's great to see. There's always space
Danny:for new shows about other topics and podcasters are happy to jump
Danny:on. So, yeah, it'd be great to see how this expands and grows outward,
Danny:for sure.
Gareth:Well, it would be lovely, Danny, if you would record an episode with
Gareth:me. Oh, well, being a podcast professor, that.
Danny:Was not a pitch, by the way, when I asked that question. I'm going
Danny:to put a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen now and say, upcoming
Danny:blatant promo pitch coming up or something.
Gareth:No, yeah, absolutely. You'd be very welcome. And in a kind of connected
Gareth:way, you work with the company that hosts podcasting people, so it's
Gareth:circle of life kind of thing, isn't it?
Danny:Exactly, no, for sure. I'd love to. Thanks for asking. I'll definitely
Danny:connect and we'll chat about that. For sure. Now, a question that I
Danny:do like to ask guests, especially because it's a podcasting show and
Danny:my other podcast, if you could have come up with the idea of someone
Danny:else's podcast that you really like or admire, what would it be? What
Danny:would be your show that you would have liked to have created and why
Danny:that one?
Gareth:Well, I suppose I do have some favourites at the moment, one I've consistently
Gareth:listened to throughout, which I think it was a really good move. There's
Gareth:a show on in the UK called QI, which was Stephen Fry now at Sandy Toksvig
Gareth:hosting, and it's quite interesting, basically. So it's all about quite
Gareth:interesting facts. And they have the Qi elves and the Qi elves a few
Gareth:years ago, I say a few years ago, maybe it's about ten years ago now,
Gareth:decided to make a podcast, and they have the four favourite facts from
Gareth:each week, and they go around and they all research it, so they don't
Gareth:know what each other's done, and they talk about these facts and expand
Gareth:on them, and it's just really interesting. They should have called it really
Gareth:interesting.
Danny:Yeah. I remember watching it when Stephen Fry, because I moved to Canada
Danny:in 2006. I've been away for a while, but I remember it when Stephen Fry
Danny:was a host and I loved watching the. I'm guessing it's still a tv show.
Danny:Is that moved over to podcasting altogether now?
Gareth:No. So QI is still remaining as a tv show. The podcast is actually
Gareth:called no such thing as a fish, which is.
Danny:Love it.
Gareth:It draws you in, doesn't it?
Danny:Yeah. If I'm scrolling past, I'm drinking. What? There is such a thing
Danny:as a fish.
Gareth:Exactly. So, yeah, just really interesting stuff. They've been going for years
Gareth:and years and years. They're now doing live shows. They've got merch.
Gareth:I've been to see them in a big theatre. I think they've done things like
Gareth:the podcast festival, London Podcast Festival. So that's one which I thought
Gareth:was really good. And then I do like a comedy sometimes. James Acastor
Gareth:recently made something called.
Danny:Not. I do love James Acaster, though.
Gareth:It's bonkers. It's really silly fun. He's actually an undercover cop who's
Gareth:infiltrated a criminal gang and masquerading as a comedian called James a castor.
Gareth:And there are loads of other comedians in it and it's just really silly.
Gareth:So I love that. And there's loads of sound design, which kind of appeals
Gareth:to me as well. And then you get on the audio drama. Um, there's a lovely
Gareth:series done by, which was conceived by and produced by Ella Watts, who
Gareth:has been a guest on podcasting people called Doctor who redacted. So this
Gareth:is kind of a spin off from Doctor who, but all ties in and it's just
Gareth:brilliant. And again, that audio drama really appeals to me as well.
Gareth:I don't know how maybe writing music for it, I don't know. But, yeah,
Gareth:I love how it storytelling. You can engage in any kind of senses, can't
Gareth:you? So as much as I love writing to picture, I think there's some
Gareth:amazing audio dramas out there as well. So, yeah, those are a little
Gareth:handful.
Danny:And every single one sounds. I mean, I knew of the Qi, I didn't know of
Danny:their podcast, I knew of Qi, I didn't know James Acaster had a podcast,
Danny:but he's one of my favourite comedians. Very irrelevant. Irreverent. Not
Danny:irrelevant. Irreverent. Irreverent. Sorry, James and the Doctor who one
Danny:just speaks to my geek. I grew up in the UK with John Pertwee, then
Danny:Tom Baker as my two main doctors, and my colleague. Well, both colleagues,
Danny:actually, but colleagues at captivate, especially Gary, our head of design.
Danny:He has a Doctor who podcast, the Blue Box, which I think is still
Danny:active. So I know he'd be really interested in that. So we'll definitely
Danny:cheque these ones out for sure.
Gareth:Nice one.
Danny:So, Gareth, mate, I need to use mate more because I'm in Canada. I don't
Danny:get to use it that much. Gareth, mate, this has been an absolute delight.
Danny:I've really enjoyed chatting with you. For our listeners or viewers
Danny:on YouTube that want to know more about, obviously, the music room
Danny:or music music music. Or even podcasting people and all the other cool stuff
Danny:that you do in your day job and your evening job, maybe where's the best
Danny:place to find all that and connect with you online as well?
Gareth:Okay, so I have a website for my company, the sound Boutique, which
Gareth:is thesamboutique.com, all one word. And for the music room, if you head
Gareth:to musicroom community, because that's what it is, then you'll find everything
Gareth:there. Podcastingpeople is podcastingpeople UK.
Danny:They are very easy to remember and I'll be sure to leave all that in
Danny:the description. So whether you're listening on audio or watching on
Danny:YouTube, cheque the description afterwards or the show notes on your podcast
Danny:app and all the links will be there. So again, Gareth, I really appreciate
Danny:you coming on today, mate. Thank you.
Gareth:Thank you, Danny. It's been a real pleasure.
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