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Ew. And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina? Woohoo! Yeah!

Yeah.

I'm awake, I'm here. I know, and I'm showered, I don't know how the hell that happened. But when the alarm went off this morning, I was not a happy cam.

I'm right.

Yay! I did it, I did it!

Yay, all right. Good job. I know. I thought when I texted you this morning, I was going to be like, well, I wonder if she's going to be rippering and ready to go. And you totally were. Well, well done. Right on time. So yesterday we were going to record and you happened to be in your physical therapy way later. And kind of good, actually, because I came up with

It's funny

And I was... right on time. Who knew?

Well, I was listening to another podcast, which is like one of my favorites. And I had heard the headline along like weeks and weeks and weeks ago. There was an article in Vogue magazine in England, not here in the States, but it was basically saying having a boyfriend now is an embarrassment. And

That's crazy.

Then I found another podcast with these two yentas that I was going to send you, but they were just basically bad mouthing man. And here's the funny part. They both were taken and they were still shitting on man and saying that like, I can understand. no, no, no, no, no. Totally. Yeah, well, the gut. I wonder.

You're kidding me. What kind of man would be with somebody like that?

So they were basically still kind of shitting. I mean, maybe not shitting on men, but definitely saying that like they could understand because, you know, we couldn't have a checking account for until there. And look, we can go back and talk about traditional shit all we want. Yes, things were different. But, you know, this is what I always love when people go to me. Exactly. None of them did. None of us really did. You know, we were the even us, we were the back tail end of that.

But they didn't live in that time anyway, so why are they... No.

That was like the 60s. And if you even want to go further back, they were saying something about women voting and they're like, we couldn't vote. And I was like, yeah, but you know, if it wasn't for men, you still couldn't vote because men gave you the right to Totally. Well, we'd have no infrastructure either. And we can we can argue that until we're blue in the face.

Yep. Well, there would be no government without man either. you know, we're talking about completely changing the way life would look these days if if we're going back that far. I mean, we could even go back as far as say. We could say Native Americans didn't even they were property until 1920. We could bitch about a whole bunch of things. But unfortunately, and fortunately, unfortunately, you know,

All kinds of

Those times were hard and everything on on everybody. But even now, like we look at it now and they saved us. They saved us from so many things. They're right. Women could vote. Native American isn't Native Americans are not property anymore. They're they're kind of regarded in a totally different light than they were. You know, times change. Things evolve. But what they're evolving into now is ridiculous. So you sent me the podcast.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

And the podcast was about how women don't need men and how they just kind of shit on them and embarrassed their friends for having boyfriends. the more I listened to the podcast, the more I was just like, fucking hate people because it was so lame and totally different than the way we were raised. We were raised. You're supposed to have respect for men and appreciate them for what they do for us. And

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

and and and be happy that they were strong and were capable now these people are just like everything about a man is wrong and that that's just so stupid i don't get it

Yeah. Well, and I also think I also think that it's it's we're breeding, you know, bad behavior. First of all, like there's a lot of different things.

The podcast really went into like a lot of other things of like, if we keep doing this, the birth rates will fall so low that we won't have to worry about anything. Right? Because we're not mating anymore. So which is a whole other, you know, like a whole other avenue of this of the way that they were really kind of saying it and the article was more saying it to like, even though some of these people may have mates, they just

Mm-hmm.

Right?

They're all embarrassed to have them now because we live in a social media network of life where everything is posted and if you have something, you either lose followers. I saw one where this girl was talking about how she posted her new boyfriend and lost like 30,000 followers in a day because she now is taken. Because I guess she would...

Yeah, and apparently that's not the way to be now. That you're more susceptible to being watched if you're single and going out with your girlfriends and doing that thing than being happy with a man.

Right, well, because they're they were probably their social media following was based on like, you know, I'm a strong independent person. And now that I have a boyfriend, you lose that. You know what I mean? And they were talking about and again, I'm going to go in and

in and out of different podcasts because I've listened to a bunch of them kind of on this. You sense yesterday, which is even funnier. So they they talked about Taylor Swift and how what's going to happen with Taylor Swift, because now, of course, she's engaged to be married. And. Even now, you know, her whole thing is that she's like this boss and a bad woman and blah, blah, blah. And now she's with this.

overly masculine football player. Right. So people were like, you know, her following is going to go sideways and and and blah, blah, blah. Or or she's going to get married and get pregnant and then have a baby. And then she's going to turn another side of people to go down that road. You know what I mean? So like. Because. We've always had some kind of, you know, quote unquote following.

Mm-hmm.

even if they were just actors, you know what I mean? So I see everything both ways, but I think that the trashing of the modern or the traditional type things is really a recipe for disaster on both sides, right? Because you're teaching women, I mean, men won't even approach people in bars anymore. They say that that is just a lost art.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Guys have given up on that because they don't want to go up to somebody and then get, you know, either recorded, recorded doing it because their friends all have fucking phones in their hands. And then they end up posting it or whatever, or they go on their social media and then shit on everything that's been done. So it just goes to show that we're like, we are different animals, men and women. We're just different. And, and they kind of talked even about that where.

shut down or.

Thank

for sure.

you know, where men like women will, I've talked about it before where your single friends will bury your new boyfriend if he does one little thing wrong, because they also don't want to be, they don't want you to be happy because they're not happy. And right. And we talked to right before we got on and,

Yeah, those are not friends, by the way.

Obviously you're not like that and you're not I mean, you're not even like that with your male friends Like when I talk about something you're like, yeah cool like you you know what I mean? But you've always Right. You've always been the cheerleader though. Like you know what I mean when it comes to that But you have been like even since since I met you Right. So but but you know since we do the bell kit curve here on the show Like I think you're outside that bell curve

Let's see what happens next. Do you know why? Why not? Have I? didn't even realize that somebody else just told me that too.

Even though I think the curve is small, I don't think all single friends shit on other people. But I just think that I hope not too, because it's just going to ruin everything. But I think men don't just don't care. When their best friend gets a girlfriend, they just kind of go, well, not going to see Rob for a little while. They it's just part of the thing because we know how we are. know, most men, when they get into a relationship,

I hope not.

The first thing they want to do is make sure that their girlfriend is happy. So they're going to do whatever it takes to make her happy. And if it's time, they're going to give her time. it's, whatever that is, again, within the bounds of what he believes in. If she wants to go out with her friends, you know, four nights a week, he's just going to break up with her. She's going be like, all right, I got to go and that.

I would hope so. Cause she, if she doesn't want to be around you, there's something wrong with that. You know?

Right. And then he's just going to go right back to his boys because his boys are going to let him write in and hand him a controller and sit down on the couch and get drunk. Like that's just what's going to happen. And I think that when we, when everyone starts looking at the reality of it, being in a relationship is not an embarrassment. Like we have to stop this pushing of, yeah, it's well, and here's the other thing. They were talking about something where

There you go.

INSANE

You know in the old days, you know, you you'd post your your mate now it's like even when you have one it's all like you know the back of their head or their hand on a table or Like they don't even show who they are. They're just like it's it's like this hidden thing and and no man wants to be hidden none

I would hope not but I know a lot of men that don't want to be on social media either and and you got to respect that too. It's ridiculous the social media and how much women will will put pictures and stuff up and post just to get the likes and and a lot of men don't like that either and I kind of agree with that. Like I want to be around the whomever it is whether it be a friend or other. I don't want to be in a situation where

Mm-hmm.

You You

I'm not, you know, there's we just did this whole thing and I'm not in one picture. That doesn't I don't know. I just there's so much to this. I was listening to you made me so frustrated yesterday by having me listen to this podcast. I was I was floored. I was absolutely floored. And and I still don't I don't believe it's even true, but it is.

Yeah. I think that, you know, it's funny because once I started listening to it before, because like you were obviously you were like an hour in, you know, an hour passed. So I was like, I started listening to it and then I remember going.

Yeah.

I'm going to send her this and go, this is your homework for tonight. Just cause I wanted to see what you would do because I knew. Yeah. I was about 20 minutes in and I was like, she is going to lose her shit. for sure. I knew, I knew about 20 minutes and I was like, and then like, here's the even worse part about 20 minutes in. like, Ooh, this is going to be rough. And then about.

There's a reason why I don't listen to podcasts and that is it. That, ugh.

I did! I was in the car yelling at the radio!

40 minutes in, was like, oh my God, I hope she stops. Like, cause there's things in this that she's going to fucking, you know, no, Oh no, it's, it was even longer than that. like an hour and 35 minutes, but I knew about 40 minutes in, I knew it about 40 minutes. I was like, there's no way she's going to go any further than this. Cause it was like, they just kept bombing on this and, and look, it's a social thing. It's a social thing. Us, we are people.

I gotta admit, I stopped at about 45 minutes and it was a long ass podcast.

I know, I couldn't.

And social media has just made it worse. So it's amplified all this craziness. there are there dudes that post stuff because they're looking for likes or or a reaction? And I mean pictures of them, not just I post things because I like the reaction because I like to light a fire under people's asses. But but when dudes will post shit, mostly if they're like Jim

a reaction.

That's funny.

Jim bros. The low is do it and then girls just do it anyway, but here's the thing. I think that everyone is probably out there looking for some kind of, you know, validation, right? Even if it's small or large, either or because everyone was validation. That's why if you have a mate, you better be getting validation from them. That's a

Yeah, but you don't you don't want it from them because they're the enemy I Was like what

I mean, I hope not, but they could be yes. Well, because here's the one thing that I think younger people, and I don't know about older people, but I could be wrong. Here's part of the issue with that too is like, let's say your mate is very complimentary, right? And I don't think, I think men...

Mm-hmm.

I mean, I don't I want to say this, but maybe I'm wrong. I think men give compliments because they are truthful. Right, and.

I agree with that. Men don't know how to pull the bullshit that women do. Men are linear thinkers. They cause and effect. They're very good at that. Where women, they could change anything into, you're wrong, you're an asshole, and you don't support me.

but man they

I just think it's more of the Men are just like if you walk by and your ass looks good. We're going to tell you that's just how men are That's how we're built. We're visual people But I think a lot of women in relationships And again, I'm this is being generalized I can't I don't have any proof on this but I think women that have their mates say something

Go ahead.

you

may feel they're doing it because they feel that they have to. Do know what I mean? Like a lot of women, I think would be like, well, he just says this because he has to. Where I think men, if they don't want to, they are not going to and they don't give two shits. So if they tell you you look good, it's probably because you look good. That's just the way it is.

Mmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I would totally agree with that. I have several male friends. I am not from the era that these girls came from that said that they don't need men. I got to tell you that I love my male friends like so much because they're real. I don't have to bullshit them. They don't care what I look like. They're my friends. They're just people that are supportive of me as

me not as a woman. There's none of this. Oh, it's because you're a woman or I was looking for a female friend or you don't get that shit from men. You're like, hey, you don't bug me. Let's hang out. You know, it's that's how men are to me. You know, it's as long as we're not bugging them. They'll hang out. They'll do whatever you know, it's and they do. They do show up. My male friends show up in ways. I had a male friend this morning say if if

If I really like somebody, I have to force time to see them. Like my life is such that I don't get time. So what I know that when we're hanging out, it's because that's really what he found important to do. Not, yeah, well, I just got some time, so I'm going to burn it hanging out with her. It's men are not like that. Women are, I don't have time to do today. Can we go tomorrow? And, and then, we got to go shopping. You want to go with me? It's it's for

totally different reason. It's, it's everything about women is totally different than, than men and how they do things, how they approach things, how they are with things. And I think that what we're doing to men in this society is just, it's disgusting. Not only is it disgusting, but I feel like men should be slapping women around more. Like get out of your fucking head. Why are you being such an idiot? Like I don't

we should tell we should post the video or not the video the the podcast that we're talking about So that people could be disgusted with me. It was ridiculous

Yeah, I'll put it. I'll put a link to it in the description. I think.

But I don't understand how women don't see that what they're doing is just disgusting. It's... I don't know.

It's definitely counterproductive. Right? This is why, and again, I'm gonna... I think this is very much an American thing.

It's beyond that.

But was the podcast wasn't even, is it American podcast?

Well, the guy who hosts it, it's called Modern Wisdom. He's British, but he lives in Texas. So, yeah. So I guess you can kind of, yes, it's kind of both. You know, I think he's just a very open thinker about all kinds of different things where I just think that it's a scary thing we're doing, right? If no one should be embarrassed of their mate.

I

It's an American. Okay, gotcha.

Zero. Mm-hmm. yeah. Exactly. You shouldn't be embarrassed to have one. If you are embarrassed to have a mate, we have done something wrong somewhere. Right? You know, or, you know, you shouldn't be in a place where you're hiding the existence of wanting to be with someone.

or embarrassed to have one.

I totally agree with that.

or hiding the existence of someone. It's... it's... because all you're doing is planting the seeds in the head of that person that they're really not important. And... and then what you're doing is if you have found someone who is worth a shit the more you keep throwing it in their head that they're not important they're going to find someone who makes them important.

I agree.

And it's a absolutely. Yeah, it's a slippery slope of trying to find happiness. And look, to be fair, we've said something before we went on here, neither sex needs each other now. We just don't. And it's a fact.

Yep, absolutely. And they should. They shouldn't stick around and wait for the bullshit that is being fed to them.

no, I think.

I know. think I still believe they do. You know, just for balance, just for balance in one's own life. You can't just be all female driven. You can't be all male driven. There's, you know, I just think that that's where we're screwing up because we do need each other in ways that we should really look at, you know, so that it's not

It's not just no we don't we do we really do I don't know

I think socially you're 100 % correct. I think what they're talking about not needing each other anymore is economically. Which we could argue in California that that is also total bullshit.

Ugh.

I was going to say, you know, there's not enough places for people that are single to live that they could afford these days. So are we wrong on that too? I think we are.

Yeah.

I would, it's all the argument would be yes, probably. I think in today's day and age, you know, it's, it's a difficult thing to live by yourself and survive. Like, I mean, I do it, but I'm definitely, you know, I'm at, I'm at a different end of the spectrum and I, but I don't, I still live paycheck to paycheck.

absolute

That's just the reality of the world. But I do, think that that men and women don't need each other to survive anymore. I think that would have been the argument of like, know, 50s, know, mothers at home, because women basically lived with their parents until they got married. You know, and and I think men that mostly probably did the same to a degree.

Mm-hmm.

I would have to see some statistics of what single men in the 50s were like. I mean, I'm assuming they probably lived with other dudes in one big house and then met somebody and moved out. Because I don't think apartments were at such a huge thing then. You know what I mean? There weren't apartments every other fucking block. They're just built, they're building one down the street for me. Team that has to be, and I'm not exaggerating, it's probably 400 units.

right?

Whoa.

It's massive. It's so massive. It's like it's three individual buildings. Yeah, it's wild. So obviously the apartment part of it is big right now, right? They're building apartments for some reason because people need them. And we can't afford a house. No one can afford a house anymore. no. So I think what we're doing

Yeah, not on a single income.

with saying that being embarrassed and again, this is mostly a woman thing because it was written by a woman and she was basically saying it from a woman's point of view. if the embarrassment part is very scary because to be embarrassed about something is you're planting a seed in

a person's mind that they're probably going to think that for a long period of time. It's hard to come back from.

Or they're not gonna... They're not gonna buy into it. I... That's what I'm hoping. I hope that people that are hearing this are like, I'm not buying into it. I'm not gonna be that person that's gonna shame somebody who's good to me, who loves me, who's there for me. Like... Why would you buy into that? Why would you... Why is that okay for you to feel like that towards somebody you're supposed to love? Did we not teach this generation?

you

What love is? Is that what the problem is? Or, you know, what happened that we've gotten so far out of focus? Like, we are way out of focus when it comes to how we should be treating one another, how we should be treating ourselves. You know, it's just gone way too far out of bounds. And I don't know really how to fix it. Well, first of all, I'm grateful I don't have kids that I have to deal with this, to be honest with you.

I don't think that I left a situation where my daughter thought that there was no need for men. There was always a need for men in our lives. And I'm grateful that I did that because she's not out of the age of women that are thinking this way. But I just don't get it. I was listening to that podcast and I gotta tell you,

Right. you

I was pissed off at you for telling me to listen to it. Like I was like, you know better than to give this shit to me. And I was going, my God, my God, I'm losing it. So then I had to call a friend and talk to her about it. And then I got her all riled up and then it just went on from there. couldn't control how pissed off I was at the whole scenario.

Right.

Yeah, well, I mean to be fair and and I didn't I mean did I mean to rile you up a little bit it's only because I was already riled up because I listened to it, you know, and even I was like

You did. You wanted to share, right?

Are you kidding me? Because like, here's the thing. I have a kid. I mean, he'll be 23 next month. He has a very different way of looking at things. Because we've talked about certain things here and there. I think that he understands that having a mate is important. But I also think he won't settle for anything less than what he thinks he deserves.

Thank

I would hope not.

Yeah, which I think is awesome. you know, he does, he gives a shit. I think the social media thing is the killer of a lot of things. We've talked about it on this show fucking a million times. And I think it's a hundred percent correct. We have now found ourselves in this drowning thing of wanting to have attention.

24 hours a day, seven days a week. And it's, and it's scary that when, when your mate or if you, assuming you have one, you're, when you, when you aren't getting some kind of response from them, you just run to social media, post a picture of yourself to get some kind of

know, pop out of it so you can feel better about yourself where instead of fixing the problem at its core, which is inside the house, right? To me, and I'm gonna give you from the male point of view since it was a female pointed thing, you know, I haven't been in a relationship in quite a while, but for me,

If, if and when I am, I better be, you know, everyone better know. I think that's important. Do they have to know every fucking five seconds? No. But they should know that the, the people around you should know that you're happy with someone and, and, and part of the argument that they were talking about is like a lot of people, they don't want to see you be, you know,

Be out and about and be like, well, they're on vacation. It's the same thing with that kind of thing. Like don't don't do vacation pictures because you know, it's people don't want your friends don't want to see that blah, blah, blah. You know, those type of things where that's where they think about the boyfriend thing. Like you're you know, I don't want to make my single friends feel bad by posting, you know, a picture of me and my boyfriend. It's like, well, that's not your responsibility.

but Jeebus.

And it's not your job to make them happy either your job is to be happy Your job is to do what's best for you. Your job is to to find your own way in life who wants if I I love my friends But I don't want them telling me who I can and can't date what I can and can't do Who I am as a person like you're never gonna get that out of me because I don't listen to that

Your responsibility. Mm-hmm.

But what I do do is encourage everybody's I encourage everybody's happy. I if they want to be in a relationship with somebody great if they want to be in a shitty relationship with somebody I'll be like, okay, do your thing. I'm just going to sit back here. Put my feet up pop some popcorn and we will see what happens next. I'm not I'm not trying to change you. I'm not trying to do anything to hurt you but

Yeah. I think the bigger thing is understanding.

If you wanna be dumb, be dumb. Be dumb. And I will, I will cheer you on like nobody would.

things about your friends. So I'll give you my biggest example would be my best friend got married. I think it's going to be eight years ago in March. Knowing that he was going to get married and I had been married before and this was his first marriage, I knew what was coming, right? You have to understand as a friend that

Mm-hmm.

When relationship statuses change, whether that's getting a girlfriend or getting a boyfriend or getting married, your relationship with your friends is going to change. Even if it's very small, like you still see each other all the time, or very large where you see each other once a month, because life is going to change.

because they've decided to be with a mate and that's just part of it. It's not a knock on anyone for getting married or getting in a relationship. I think you just have to think logically. So the logical part of me goes, okay, well, he's going to get married. I'm still going to try to text him. I'm going to text thread with him, me, him and another guy.

Which the things we say on that, if I had ever posted them, I would be in a lot of trouble. We, yeah, we post, we send memes to each other that are utterly horrible. And even my mate, if I, if and when I'm with a mate, I don't know if I'd even let her read them, cause she'd probably go, holy shit, we'd be in, I'd be in a lot of trouble. yeah, they're.

as it should be.

Come on, let her read them be you see and that's the thing For me, I don't want to be with somebody I can't be me with I I want to know I want them to know Tina's got a really inappropriate side and I love her anyway, you know, there shouldn't be any freaking reason why You know, well, yeah, I guess they should judge you according to those things if you think about it, but there's no reason to

Right, mean, yes, me too.

There's no reason to hide it, because it'll come out in what I say, too.

Exactly. just, you know, I mean, I would show anybody these things, there, but I would definitely would come with a be ready. Absolutely. But I knew.

Yeah, there's a warning label that should come with some of that stuff. But I think that anybody that knows you would know that you're not saying it to be mean or to put anybody down. You're saying it purely for the entertainment properties and that you can't get mad about.

Correct.

And at the end of the day, I think that when those relationships start, you know, you... And again, I'm just speaking from a man's point of view, because I think we just think, you know, a certain way about things. Like, we know. I knew when he started dating her that my time with him would be cut. That's just the way things happen.

And I, and we still make time for each other when we can, but you know, I would never say that, that it would be an embarrassment to put my girlfriend's picture up, you know, cause I don't think my, I don't think my male friends would be like, my goodness. I can't believe he's with somebody now.

And, know, I'm single and why is he posting these things? You know, okay, that's, we just don't think like that. And part of this podcast was mostly saying how women will react to said things where you'll put a picture of your new mate and you're probably hurting feelings of other people instead of logically thinking and going, well, I'm happy for them.

And it's like, it's just a very bizarre thing to... for me to think that someone would be embarrassed to have somebody. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, for me those aren't the people that I want to be around anyway. Like people that think like that I don't have time for because it's nonsense. doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't feel right to put a stamp on that kind of bullshit. So I just wouldn't.

Yeah, I think it's just, it's weird to me. And here's the bigger problem is I bet you to them, the person who isn't posting about their mate, they're fully in love with their mate. They're more worried about what's gonna happen on the outside of it instead of really thinking about what's happening on the inside.

get that just do it and whoever has a problem with it get them out of your life like maybe if we start dealing with people on a real level where you know their their way of thinking or their way of acting is bullshit and we're not gonna put up with it maybe if we stopped making room for everybody to have these stupid opinions and we kept them over there on a shelf

Mm-hmm.

It wouldn't have gotten so bad. But now it's gotten so bad. We have generations of people thinking this way and it's it's to our detriment. It's totally to our detriment. And the sad thing is is they're blaming they're blaming men and men are like going we had nothing to do with the shit. Like I don't think that way. I didn't want that. You were the one that said, you know, you didn't want to do this or that. I just said, okay.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

You it's women and I always I mess around with my friends all the time and I believe it but I you know, then I'm like, come on, you're being dumb. Like it goes back to the Eve thing. Eve man messed up a lot of shit and now we're still there still women are still doing it. There's still like there's an evil there that's going on that hasn't changed in all of these years and and still

You

Men are suffering for it and I can't believe I just said that but it's true. Women come up with some crazy shit. All the Karens in this world, all the women thinking they don't need a man, all the people that hype up, you know, men being worthless and everything. It's all women. It's women that are doing this. Like the hate's gone too far.

Mm-hmm.

and women are supposed to be the loving ones.

Yeah, I mean, yes, that is a very good point. That's a great way of looking at it. We are supposed to be the ones that don't have empathy and don't have feelings. And I think that's crazy. think. At the end of this day.

Right.

You know, I want everyone to come out of this. I'm to put a link to the several of the podcasts that I got this information from. You're you're definitely not going to be happy. I just. I want people to like really.

But don't listen to them unless you want to get pissed off. Just warning you.

No, not at all.

It's some bullshit.

dive deep. I'm going to give you both. There's one, like I said, there's one from this one and I'll, I didn't send it to you Tina and I probably should. It's called girls got to eat. They're horrible yentas. And I think that they really, they're, they're just horrible. And, and again, if you have somebody and you're still saying that this is the way to do it, you're for one a hypocritical piece of shit. where the, the

He hinted us.

The other one, the other one from that Modern Wisdom one, I think they were trying to look at it from a very social aspect of everything. You know, just how people see each other in this modern land. But I think it's it's bled into our generation for sure. Probably not as much, but it's definitely bled into it where I think that the the sexes now are so

based and they don't want they're just like I don't need someone I don't need someone and and look I've said it out loud as well but the reality is we all need someone we the statistics show you know the most unhappy people on this planet are single mothers or in the United States

Single mothers the worst they're the most unhappy people second would be Dating couples dating people and the most happy are married women Which is I would have never ever thought that that would be the truth with the divorce right so high But statistically speaking

Mm-hmm.

The people and again, I don't know what the number of people asked was so. But either way, if you're, if you're getting, you know, 50 % that's very high to say that they're happy and married. Because I think what they're, when they ask somebody, you know, are you single and unhappy and you say yes, but if you say you're married and happy and say yes,

It's because you're thinking about how it was when you were single or when you were, you know, a single parent and by yourself and doing all these things. It's so I can understand those those sides of it. I just think being married or being in a very committed relationship gives you stability and that's what we like as human beings.

Mm-hmm.

We like stability. We like to know that when we come home, the person that we want to be with is there for us. And, you know, you can share things with and this. I would never be embarrassed. Matter of fact, I think that since I and again, I don't want to say that I would like post pictures all the time because I just don't think that that's me either. But I'd want someone to know that I was with somebody. I think you should be proud of your mate. Not embarrassed of that.

Everyone should know. you know, kind of like you. I'll give you as an example, because like social media wasn't really, really, really big when I was married. It was, but it was just the curve of it, right? It's my space. So, but I knew that you had a mate and you were married and you had a family and you would post things all, not even all the time, but frequently.

Where, and I think I probably, you don't, nothing. So I think the bigger picture is look, if you're embarrassed about having a boyfriend, you have a much larger problem. If you have, if you're embarrassed about having a girlfriend, you have a much larger problem.

Now what do I now what do do I post nothing nothing

You. Do I do you need to post fucking every dinner that you go out with now? I I don't think that that's you know, the. Right. Right, that's a point. Yeah, don't don't go sharing some shit if you're not asking me to go out to dinner with you. Yeah, if you're but I think that we as.

Yeah, I have a problem with all those food pics everybody posts. If they're not gonna bring the food over, I don't need to see it.

Yeah, right exactly

human beings need to understand that both your mates need to know that they're important. You know, there's a difference between being posting every blue moon and being a total secret. If you're a secret, there's a bigger problem. A much larger problem.

Mm-hmm.

Yep. Well, and we do need the opposite sex for so many reasons. I have found over the years that the men in my life have been a...

source of support that I would never have gotten from any of the women in my life. You know, the women in my life, from as young as I can remember, always had an opinion of how I was supposed to be, what I was supposed to do, how I was supposed to act, who I was supposed to be with. And men, the flip side, were like, yeah, just hang out and hand me a wrench. Literally, I've, you know, spent some time hanging out. You want to talk?

Talk to me, you want to not say something, don't say it. Like we could just exist. And I found over the years that that's a source of peace for me to be able to just be in a room with somebody that doesn't want to judge me. And men don't, they don't care. They just, you know, if they, if they like you, they'll hang out with you. If they don't like you, they ain't gonna, you know, instantly. I don't, I don't have to make

you

Mm-hmm.

Right.

I don't have to be anything else. I don't have to make myself look any specific way. I just have to be me around my male friends. Also around my ex-husband was the same thing. Like he wasn't about judging me. Like he had a problem if I didn't keep the house clean or if I didn't get the stuff I was supposed to get done done then but judging me on who I was personally or what I had or what I what I was posting.

Man, am I grateful that none of, not even my female friends though, because we're out of the age loop, let's be honest. if I had had that as a younger person, I wouldn't have had any self-confidence at all. And looking for validation from people that don't, you shouldn't look to them for is ridiculous. You're like, why would you do that? Why would you pick friends that would do that? Now here, I'm judging, I'm judging you.

Like, if you have a boyfriend and that is not cool for some people, you don't need those people. But it doesn't mean that you treat him disrespectfully and like they're a disease instead of something that brings a source of peace to your life. Like, come on. Why are you thinking that?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think that if the person is bringing you joy and happiness, make sure they know it.

Yes.

And it's okay to at least on some level share that with the public. Because we do live in this. We're not gonna get away from the social media hack. Unfortunately, we are kind of stuck in it now. if you're not big on social media, awesome, not a big deal. But I do believe that you should

Mm-hmm.

that people in your life should know it and I think purely these days for the people who don't like to keep their distance need to know. You know shouldn't be embarrassed of your mate because if you are you're going to get unwanted direct messages all the time. Well

You shouldn't and and look men are pieces of shit generally and they don't care if it says that you have a boyfriend or or a mate they're going to continue to do it but at least if it's there

You have that as a didn't I tell you I was married or didn't I tell you that I was with somebody like let it go. So.

You know what's funny and now this was something that came up into my...

it came up during his listening to that stupid podcast was, was, you know, now that I'm dating, I get approached by like 30 something year old guys all the time. And, and I've never, okay, guys my own age, I was never approached or maybe I just didn't notice it. Cause I, I was been told I've been oblivious to that too, but

Right? you

I get approached by young guys all the time and I always think what the hell do they want with somebody so much older? I get it now. Because they're not getting any play from women their own age and not only that from what I hear the women are such bitches they don't want it. And I'm going wow this is first of all this is a good time to be alive if I was younger because there's been a lot of guys that I would have been like damn I would go for that.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

But because of age and feeling like they were just, we're not in the same place in life. I have stayed away, but I get it now why these boys, these younger men aren't, aren't wanting to be with them. I get it now after hearing that podcast, I get it. And how sad like women are just so gross right now. It's, it's, it's repulsive.

Right. I agree. Well, because now I think if you have if you're young and have a mate, you're you're also fighting a million people that can look at your social media every day. And as a guy, you don't want to do that shit. Like you just don't. I'm like.

All right, if that's what you want go have that and and I think that's where men are also giving up it's like I have one that's on on our our list of things that I've been kind of holding off and holding off and holding off and holding off but it was you know, would you give up social media for your for your mate and Yeah, but I think that I guarantee you right now that if you if you put that out there

Yeah.

It's herpes.

People would lose their shit in a second. But I mean.

Wouldn't I'd be like sign me up? What am I getting like they say a million dollars or a year for a year without social media Should I could go longer than that? I gave up TV and I didn't think when I was growing up that I could ever ever Go without TV and it isn't it isn't hard at all None of it is

You know, I think this would be one of those things where you have to really kind of kind of look at the reality of the world. Like, I think there would be a lot of people and I probably women and then again, I know that's horrible to say, but that wouldn't do it. That would not give up social media.

Yeah, I don't post I I gave up on that the social media stuff I'll check it out, but I don't really post anymore because Anybody that I want to know what I'm doing. We talk all the time. know You know, so I'm I'm at a point where with social media I got a lot of stalkers so people that don't want to like me don't want to be around me I noticed that I've heard

Right.

Things that I have posted I'm like, so somebody's paying attention. They don't even like me. So why would I give them that power? So I just don't I just quit posting not that I was even any good at doing it to begin with I wasn't I still don't I still can't navigate through Instagram. So that says anything.

Right.

Right. What are your last words on this lovable subject? Let it rip.

You really wanna know? Quit being fucking stupid, people, because y'all need each other. Men and women were made to be counterparts to each other, just like everything in nature was set to be balanced. And if you think for one second you don't need it, you're gonna be miserable and lonely for long time, but do you? But know that you don't have to be like that, and you shouldn't care that much. You just should not care.

Yeah, and.

At the end of this day, if if if it's embarrassing having a boyfriend, then I think you're in the wrong business. So check us out on social media. I know the holiday is coming. So matter of fact, this is going to come out the day before Thanksgiving. So happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there. Have fun with your family. And yeah, it's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday.

Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy.

That's Tina. I'm Rob. We'll talk to later. Bye.

See ya.