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It took me a while to fully make that leap and trust that if I

put all of my energy and love into the creation of a business

that would serve the world that it would actually work and that

it would actually provide enough for me to live the lifestyle

that I want to live.

Hello, fellow Earthlings. Welcome to the becoming the big

me podcast. I'm your host, Djemilah, Birnie. And together,

we will be stepping into our highest potential, exploring all

things mind, body, and soul. With justice, major business,

you're a spiritual badass solopreneur and a warrior for

change, you're ready to expand your impact and leave your old

self behind in order to raise your vibration so that you can

positively influence your business, your community, and

ultimately, the world. Without further ado, let's dive right

into it. I have an amazing woman here with me today, Katie J. She

helps spiritual women manifest their desires without the

struggle of limiting beliefs, doubt and fear. And I am so

excited. We chatted a little bit before and I know you guys are

going to love this episode. Hey, Katie, how are you doing today?

I am doing wonderful. jameelah. Thank you so much for having me.

I am so blessed that we got connected on Facebook. I really

am excited for this chat. So let's just dive right in. And

let's just kind of talk about your story. What like you are it

have this amazing business right now where you help women really

overcome those limiting beliefs and with your manifestation

circles. Now. Can you bring me back to the beginning of your

entrepreneurship journey? were you working in a nine to five

before? How did you kind of get to where you are?

Yeah, so I was working a nine to five, my entrepreneurship

journey. I would actually, you know it, my entrepreneurship

journey was a part of my greater spiritual journey, I would say,

which started back in 2015. I remained in the corporate world

for about a month after my first spiritual awakening. And then I

shifted to working at retreat centers. And I was working at a

retreat center outside of Austin, Texas, and living with a

woman who ran her own online coaching business coaching

women, women's fitness. And I was just so inspired by how much

energy she put into her business. And I was so just

taken aback by the results that her clients were getting over

online space entirely. And in 2017, I went to Peru, and was

sitting in this Plaza, and connected to Wi Fi, and fully

realizing that I could do everything that I do from my

desk, at the retreat center, from anywhere in the world and

realize that there was this wide open possibility for my life and

what I could create, if I set my mind to it. So from then on,

things started happening, I was introduced to people who started

planting ideas in my head and started to tell me to look into

this type of business or that type of business. And I was all

over the place, jumping around in all different sorts of online

spaces that I had no business, like drop shipping, and all

sorts of things that were just like felt really unaligned. And

I just kept searching and searching and searching and I

hired coaches and industry experts to help me kind of

figure out where I should be in this online space if I could be

at all. And it took me it took me a while to fully make that

leap and trust that if I put all of my energy and love into the

creation of a business that would serve the world, that it

would actually work and that it would actually provide enough

for me to live the lifestyle that I want to live and support

my boxer puppy. He's five he's not actually a puppy. He's the

only thing I have to support right now. You know. We don't

need a lot You know, and things just started slowly opening up

for me, I tried things I tried courses I tried, meaning

launching and leading courses, I tried one on one coaching, I

tried group programs, I tried all different sorts of things,

just figure out what felt good. And from each time that I tried

something new in my business, I took what worked and I let go of

what didn't work. And I took what worked and I let go, what

didn't work in everything that I made, I invested back into my

business and back into the the parts of my business that were

helping it to grow, helping it to connect with clients helping

to sign clients. And that included a lot of coaching, a

lot of mentorship, and getting that one on one support was

really crucial for me in my journey.

So what how So from what you're saying it sounds like there was

kind of a lot of failure on your road to where you are now. So

can you kind of dive into that a little bit. Um, and how you took

that failure at that time, how you take failure now and because

I know that a lot of entrepreneurs out there people

who are, you know, striving to create something that very

discouraged when that initial idea doesn't work the way that

they pictured it, you're gonna dive into that aspect a little

bit.

Yeah, it might have a lot to do with the fact that what I am

coaching, what I am holding space for, and teaching is

manifesting, which, if anyone who's died, who has dove into

the world of manifesting, has probably realized that it's

mostly a fancy word for healing. And so and then a lot of that

healing is, we were required to look at that failure and to look

at those stories that we were telling ourselves that made it

so that that failure happened, or, or that there were parts of

that situation that just didn't feel good. And I can dive into

more details like I was, I remember launching a course that

I just did not feel aligned with. And I did it anyway,

because I knew that there was something to learn about the

launch process. And actually, I didn't know that my business

coach told me that I'm not gonna didn't like, that was my idea.

She was like, you should continue, go all the way through

the launch process. So you can figure out what you do and don't

like. And what I didn't like, was the negative self chatter

that came up during it, it was less about, oh, I don't want to

write this email sequence, or Oh, I don't want to promote

myself on Instagram, because I gotten really comfortable doing

that, at that point. It was just this, you know, this product

doesn't feel aligned. And so therefore, I'm going to be open

to the guidance for what is the next product that that maybe is

more aligned, because I'm seeing, I'm seeing her launch a

course and doing really, really well. And I'm seeing him launch

a course and do really, really well. So surely, I should be

doing courses too. But when you actually go through that

process, which I'm really glad that I did, I was able to

realize like it wasn't the launch or any of those nuances.

It was like the actual product. So Okay, next launch, or at

least between those two launches, leaving my really

leaning into my spiritual practices and inner guidance and

asking, like, what is it that I should be offering? And what is

it that's gonna feel really, really, really aligned?

So do you have any tips for people who it's I get these

questions all the time, like, How do I know? What is my inner

guidance? How do I know? What's my intuition speaking? And

what's maybe just my ego or my limiting beliefs speaking? So do

you have any tips for how to kind of discern between those

voices?

Oh, absolutely. So the best way that I like to really think

about it is just this old school cartoons where there's like a

devil on the shoulder, and an angel on the shoulder. And

that's a little dramatic, right? We don't want to say that the

ego is the devil because our ego is not the devil. The ego is not

the is not bad, right? our ego has is here to keep us alive and

keep us safe. And that's great and good and we need it. But

it's not here to allow us to step outside of our comfort zone

or to really flourish in life and thrive and ask for and

receive a life that we've never lived before. Right That's not

the egos job And so the ego will always sound like fear. It will

always sound like fear, like scarcity, like not enough, like

guilt, like shame, you know, that's that voice. If it sounds

like that, then it's gonna be the ego. But if it sounds like

it's coming from a place of love, then it's your higher

self, then it's your inner guidance, then it's your

intuition. Because your inner guidance doesn't say, get off

this plane, it's gonna explode. Like, that's not how it guides

you, it will just say, you know, what, I think you should cancel

that flight. You know, well, in advance, it will guide you well

in advance of those things. Like, that's the beauty of

trusting it is, it feels like love. Always. And that's, that's

the beauty of, of the distinction, too, is that we all

we know that what that feels like in our bodies.

Yeah. And I also feel like the ego is kind of more just like,

looking for attention. Like, it's kind of like jumping up,

like, look at me, it can be loud, and it can be very

obnoxious. Whereas that inner guidance is not necessarily so

loud. It's not so noxious, but it's steady. It's just that

consistent feeling over time. That's like, hey.

Yeah, exactly. So I'm in a place in my life right now, where I'm

like, okay, you know, despite the fact that everything that's

going on with Coronavirus, and stuff, like, I really can't,

could live anywhere that I wanted to. And I've realized

that and I've kind of been feeling the need to move but not

know where to go. And so I've just been, like, releasing that

question and asking for guidance. And I have noticed

that Ooh, ooh, ooh, you know, like, kind of popping up here

and there, and I'm just, okay. Well, I see you, you know what,

I'm not gonna make any decisions yet. And then a few days later,

oh, oh, I'm still here telling you to go here.

That's so funny that you bring that up, because that's actually

how we landed in Arizona is we I had been feeling for a while,

like, we needed to move we needed, you know, something to

happen. And so I started asking for signs, and just all kinds of

crazy stuff just started happening. Like, there was a

farmers market that we used to go to all the time. It's our

favorite activity we did every Saturday. And we got kicked out

of the farmers market, because I had my purse in my wagon. And

the lady told me, I needed to carry my purse because someone

was going to steal it. And I told her, oh, that's okay. My

child's also in my way. And she like, told us that we weren't

allowed to come back to the farmers market. And I was like,

This is the weirdest situation I've ever had in my entire life.

So I started reflecting on it. And I had this like, download,

like, Oh, this is one of those signs that you're asking for.

Like, it doesn't make any logical sense. This is one of

those things that you're asking for. And then I don't know if

you're into Angel numbers or anything like that. But these

numbers just kept appearing. And that was when I first got into

Angel numbers. I'd never looked up a number before. For some

reason, my intuition was like, look it up. And he was like, you

need to move right now. And I was like, Oh,

okay.

So I love that because that's, yeah, that's exactly how we

ended up here. It was just over time consistently, kind of

seeing these signs and asking for more confirmation, and then

finally just taking that leap and be like, okay, I hear you.

We're going.

Yeah, and so many people are scared that they're gonna miss

the sign. You know, they're like, what if I missed it? Like,

what if that was it? It's like, you're gonna get it? Yeah,

you're in like, safe loving hands. Think of it that.

Exactly. And for me, like, because I've definitely been in

that point, I'm sure you have as well. where like, was that a

sign? Is that a sign? Oh, no. And how does it ask for more?

Like, if you don't ask, you know, like, if you need

clarification, like, just be like, Hey, what's that assigned?

Can you give me another sign to confirm? Like, there's nothing

wrong with just point blank asking that?

Yes, exactly. I met this very witchy woman in Costa Rica one

time who was telling me all about her games that she was

playing with the universe. And she was like, I asked for a

coconut yesterday, and I got to Oh,

do you? That's a great point there. Do you do gamification

with your life? You know,

it's funny. It's something I just got started doing, which is

crazy because I teach manifestation. So you would

think that that'd be something that I mean, now. It's something

that I'm playing with and I'm encouraging my clients To play

with to, but like the other day, or not the other day, it was a

month ago, April 1 that I moved into this current apartment. And

that weekend, I said, I want flowers from flowers, you know.

And then the day that I moved in to my, this house, my landlord

was planting flowers all in her garden beds. And I was like,

Yeah, not how I had imagined them, but I'll take it, you

know?

I love that. Yeah, you. Um, it's something that I'm just now

starting to get into as well. I have. I mean, I have, I guess

I've kind of been doing it for a while I just didn't realize that

I was doing it like a big one for me is, when I'm driving. I

have done this for a while I didn't realize like, I had no

idea. But I would just think, you know, green light. Like

whenever I'd be coming up near a green light, I always hit green

light. And every time that I'm like, consciously driving, and I

think that like I always hit green lights. And so like, I

have been trying to incorporate that more into my practice

religious, I'm taking things a little less seriously, because

that is definitely something that I personally had struggled

with. Just over my journey, I have, you know, felt this need

to rally overcompensate? I guess because I do get a lot of flack

based on my history and how I've gotten to where I am. And so I

feel like oh, I need to show up, like extra, you know, business

like or extra masculine to be able to fit into the marketing

space. And lately, you know, over I mean, really, over the

past couple of years, have really been diving into more of

the flow and the feminine and really bringing in that into my

business as well. Like I did. I did a a manifestation exercise.

I don't know if you've heard of the five by

55.

manifestation challenge. Yeah, it's, it's a pretty big one.

And I,

I decided to try it with with my marketing business. I've done a

lot of the manifestation stuff with my coaching business, but

for some reason wasn't transferring it over to my

marketing business. And so I decided to try it for my

marketing agency. And then within two weeks, I signed on to

new like high ticket clients. I was like, Oh, hello.

Love it.

It works all around.

I have never fully committed to the 555 or 333. method. Three,

like when you write something 33 times for three days, or

whatever it is. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I've never fully committed

to it. Maybe I'll give it a try.

Yeah, you should definitely definitely try it. There have

been a couple times where I had tried it in the past, but I made

it to like two days or three days or whatever. I'm starting

to

get tired.

Yeah, so finally I actually

because of Tick tock,

so I've been like really into Tick Tock lately. And I decided

to make this video about the challenge. And I was like, Oh, I

have to do it now. And because I had that accountability from the

TIC Tock video, I follow through and then saw these amazing

results, which was really cool, because then I was able to share

that with you with Tick Tock. And yeah, that's one of the

other things look, tell. Tell me about that. Like with coaching,

like do you feel like that helps keep you accountable for your

energy and what you're doing as well?

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Because, and that's probably the best

part of it, too, you know, is that I get to show my clients

what's possible for them, you know, and you can look at that

and see like, and think of it as a huge weight or responsibility,

but I think of it I get fires me up, you know, it gets me really

excited to like, No, I can't shrink back and play small

because if I were my client, I wouldn't tell them to do you

know, I would not put up with that. So, you know, situations

and, you know, we're constantly I think what's funny about the

555 method and the 333 method and writing things over and over

again is that I do feel like it's that subconscious Reese

like it's, it's how we can reset our subconscious mind. And if

our subconscious mind is thinking about something all the

time time it's a magnet to it, right? So it's like constantly

pulling those things in. But what I think a lot of people

don't realize is that there are so many subconscious things to

work through that it's the process is really, I mean, the

process of manifesting and growing and evolving and

whatever is like it's constant. So for me, having a coaching

container is that constant support that like that in a

weird way that I need to be like, yeah, this is a practice

that we're gonna keep doing and keep evolving, and keep up

leveling and keep expanding.

I love that. So on the topic of manifestation, something I hear

a lot in kind of the manifestation community,

or people who are trying to learn about manifestation

is

they get really discouraged if they're not

feeling, you know, high vibe or not feeling like they're in this

really positive space. And they feel like if they feel down

ever, then like, everything is just going to collapse and it

can't manifest anymore. What are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, I run into that belief a lot too, or that misconception

maybe. So. There is such beauty in experiencing the full

spectrum of the human emotions. And always, always, always, our

emotions are like, what are they? What are they really,

they're a biochemical release in the body. What releases those

biochemicals, those hormones that make us feel the emotion of

sadness, or feel the emotion of anger, feel the emotion of

guilt, or shame. It's a thought, it's a thought that triggers

that right? So what thoughts are making me feel these emotions,

and we were talking before we hit record on Shadow Work, and

that's what Shadow Work is, is looking at those thoughts that

triggered those emotions. And not saying I'm bad for having

those thoughts, I shouldn't have those thoughts. I'm a strong

woman, there's no way I should be feeling these emotions, you

know, I, I, that goes through my mind all the time. Instead, you

just look at them and observe them, and maybe even crazy, it's

gonna sound crazy. But imagine that they are your inner child,

imagine that they are your inner roommate, imagine that they're

the voice, excuse me of your grandmother, right? or wherever

that nagging, or that limiting belief or that self conscious

thought came from. And really taking that emotion, taking that

thought, taking that situation, whatever is triggering you, and

separating it from you, and just allowing yourself to experience

that to learn from it, to grow from it, to evaluate it, to

integrate it. And what I'm talking about is, is the Shadow

Work process that I kind of walk my clients through, and really

taking those feelings that don't feel good, those thoughts that

don't feel good, and integrating them into our path as something

that I'm debating how far I should go into this. So maybe I

should give an example. Like, okay, for what's going on in my

life and example from my life right now, is I need to get some

dental work done. I don't have health insurance, I because I'm

a full time entrepreneur. And I just haven't gotten to that

point yet where I've gotten myself some health insurance,

that would probably even cover what it is that I need done. And

so I keep telling myself this story, this limiting belief that

I can't afford to get the dental work done that I need to or it's

going to, you know, put me in some sort of financial stress.

And so I put it off, I put it off and I'm in pain, it hurts to

chew and I'm like, Wait a second, like, this is not me

living my best life, right? Like, I'm experiencing something

that does not feel good. And that is kind of perpetuated in

my reality by the pain, the physical pain, but it's all the

root of it's just like my limiting belief. So I look at

that limiting belief. And I'm like, Where's this coming from?

Like, where is this? I don't have enough or like scarcity

mindset coming from because the truth is like I do have enough

You know, if I actually looked at my bank account, like I have

plenty To cover this and going through the process of like,

shedding light on, whatever it is that's making you feel like

shit, whatever it is that making you feel, or that that is caught

that triggering those thoughts that's triggering those emotions

that's allowing you to experience that low vibration,

emotion and doing the work. Like that's the work of manifesting

is like, yes, experience those emotions, experienced them to

their fullest, but don't experience them for the rest of

your life, like, do the processing now, and look at them

shine light on them, there's probably going to need to be

some sort of forgiveness involved other forgiveness of

others forgiveness of self, and then some loving compassion for

self love and compassion for others. And people. I mean, when

I first heard about this process, and when I was first

taken through this process with my mentor, I was like, this

seems like is that all I have to do? You know, is that is that

it? You know, and that issue, that

thing that's holding you back, that limiting belief, that

unhelpful story, that timeline that's been, you know, projected

onto you by others in your life. All of that, if you just look at

it, and you realize, like, Wait a second, I don't have to

identify with that I don't have to carry that anymore. I don't

have to, you know, let that be my story, I can actually create

a new story and a new paradigm for my life and leaning into

that. So it's a process of all of it, of experiencing those low

vibe emotions, so that you can return to your natural state of

experiencing love and experiencing that compassion

that exists within all of us.

Yeah, so really, using those kind of bad those, I don't like

to say bad. But those feelings that are can be

compartmentalised as bad. Has the learning experiences like

oh, this isn't maybe something I should dig into a little bit

more, this is something I should explore more like, why is this

coming up? That's, I mean, I think you really hit the nail on

the head with that one, that's really how you can use those

feelings, those low vibe emotions, to manifest because

when you actually accept them, that's the other thing is accept

those feelings, you set it at the beginning, we are human, we

are here to have a human experience. And part of being

human part of the human experience, is feeling those

things is feeling those emotions, and so being able to

accept them and be like, Okay, I see you, I feel, you know, why

are you here. And using that as a trigger, to instead of

downward spiral, but using that as a trigger to learn more and

to explore

more.

Absolutely, and the only reason why it's called Shadow Work, or

why those things are in the shadow, meaning those emotions

or topics or relationships that we don't want to discuss, like

they're only in the shadow because we don't want to discuss

them. Because we keep pushing them further and further down.

But the issue is that they're still there, they're still in

your energy body, and there's, you will probably find that they

will continue to affect your manifestations until you shine

light on them.

Yeah, one of the kind of images that I like to use for that is

if you're thinking about a dark cave, it's completely black put

away, you can't see anything, but if you just like the tiniest

little light, if you just like one little tea light candle in

there, you're going to create massive illumination, in this

case in this cave. And so what you're saying is when you accept

and kind of shine that light on that shadow, you really kind of

open, open it up and it just even just diving into it a

little bit is going to help expand more and more. When you

think about like the layers like I know for me in my journey,

like there have been lots of things where I dive into and

emotions and

then I

clear them and then later on they start coming up again when

I have reached like another level. What do you think about

kind of that? Yeah, absolutely. I'm actually reading this book

called do less by Kate Northrup, and it's all about cycle

sinking, so sinking your life and business With your menstrual

cycle, and yeah, I'm loving it so far. And one of the things

that she talks about, and she has this whole diagram, so you

can imagine, like, you know, an upward slope, but on this upward

slope are these loops. And the loops kind of signify our cycle,

whether it's a menstrual cycle, the seasons, you know, however

you want to think about it, the moon cycles. And as we go up,

you know, where we're evolving, we're doing our shadow work,

we're kind of processing and integrating those that the

shadows and the things that don't no longer service. But

yeah, they're going to come up again. But you're going to be at

a higher consciousness at that point, and able to look at it

and say, Oh, yeah, there's that there's that daddy issue again,

or whatever it is, say, like, wow, I can either allow this to

impact my decision and make a decision out of fear, or I can

make a decision out of love. And just just because it's there,

again, doesn't mean that it, you're starting from scratch,

it's just, you're human, it's not gonna, you know, you're not

a computer that we can just completely wipe clean, you don't

want that. Gonna take some layers, I think that's a really

great way to visualize it.

Yeah, and like, you know, when you are coming back to it from

that higher level of consciousness, like you can, you

can heal it even deeper, you know, like, I feel like we can

only heal based on our current level of understanding. And as

we continue to grow, some things, you know, might come

back up because we didn't fully get all the way to the core,

because we just weren't there yet.

Totally or like, as your as you progress on your journey and

connection, more and more of the natural loving essence within

you, you tap into more and more forgiveness. So maybe you've

forgiven that person, you forgiven that person, you're

like, I can release you, you know, you haven't like really

forgiven them to the point where you feel that you can look back

on that situation and only feel love for them and only feel

compassion for where they were in their journey and the tools

that they had access to at the time. Ah,

man, I absolutely love all of this. Now, we were running,

running on time here. So before we close out, I just want had a

couple more questions for you. First, what is one thing that

you're kind of struggling with in your business? And then what

is one thing that you're super excited about in your business

right now?

Hmm.

I love the this question. Because two questions. So one

thing I am struggling with in my business I actually mentioned

before is the cycle sinking. I my cycle has been kind of all

over the place recently, and I'm taking a year long course and I

are VEDA. To learn more about this, I am actively tracking it

and doing my best to because when the whole purpose of cycle

seeking is that you don't do much in your business when

you're menstruating. Right, so if you can't if you don't know

when you're going to menstruate, how do you plan out your and so

I think maybe that brings up the larger issue is just the

planning of my business. Like, I know what I need, you know, I I

for the first time ever jameelah for the first time ever. for

June, I wrote out every single day what I need to do my

business and it feels so good, but that's what I've been

struggling with. It's just that like, organization around the

lifestyle that I want to lead chillon when I'm, you know, not

feeling like engaging as much during that time of the month,

but also just being able to show up in a way that serves my

clients because I'm organized and fully planned out and

feeling present and ready to go.

I love that. And then what are you currently most excited about

in your business? Yeah, I

am most excited about my women's circles. So like I mentioned

before, I've been all over the place when it comes to my

offerings for the world and just trying to figure out what how I

can serve best really with with my background and talents and

gifts and passions. And these women's circles that I'm

wrapping up the first round right now and the container that

I've created has transformed these women's lives and it's

blowing my damn mind. And I'm loving it. And I can't wait to

launch the next round in June. And the next round after that in

September, like I told you, I'm planning things out. So these

women's circles there, it's an eight week program. And we

basically learn how to leverage the power of collective

manifestation through sisterhood. And we go through

the manifestation process, and we talk about really hard

topics, we do Shadow Work together, we hold space for one

another. And we encourage and uplift one another. And it's

been just been this beautiful support group for spiritual

women online. So that's what I'm most excited about.

That sounds super exciting. You made me excited just listening

to you talk about it. That's how you know that it's an aligned

and aligned offer right there. So Katie, where can people find

you? Where do you hang out?

Yeah, so

I hang out mostly on Instagram. At with manifestor. So that's

WMANI F, E s, t e r, and that same word, well, manifester is

my website to win manifester.com. So that's where

all the info is. But I mostly keep that up to date, but I hang

out on Instagram daily.

Okay, awesome. Oh, you guys. I will put the links on to her

website and to her Instagram page in the show notes, so make

sure to check there and check her out and give her some love.

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know what, Katie, thank you so much for being on. I really

appreciated having your presence here today.

Absolutely. Thank you for having me. Appreciate

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