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Akashic Records for Business, Purpose, and Spiritual Leadership
Episode 323 • 17th September 2023 • Spirit Sherpa ~ Spiritual Growth for Spiritual Entrepreneurs • Kelle Sparta | Spiritual Coach and Business Coach
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Can the Akashic Records guide business decisions, reveal your life purpose, and help you become a more authentic leader?

In this episode of Spirit Sherpa, Jules welcomes spiritual advisor Tiffany Mei Yun Chan, who works with founders, executives, and organizational leaders to integrate spirituality into leadership without sacrificing discernment or practical results. Drawing from her background at the World Economic Forum and her own profound spiritual awakening, Tiffany shares how a life-changing accident transformed her understanding of success, purpose, and consciousness.

Together, Jules and Tiffany explore what the Akashic Records are, how intuitive guidance can influence leadership and decision-making, and why many successful people eventually discover that external achievement alone isn't enough. Tiffany explains how she combines Akashic Record readings, coaching, and practitioner development to help clients reconnect with their own inner wisdom instead of becoming dependent on a spiritual teacher.

Whether you're curious about the Akashic Records, developing your intuitive abilities, or looking for a more meaningful way to lead your business and life, this conversation offers a grounded perspective on integrating spirituality with professional success.

What You'll Learn

  • What the Akashic Records are
  • How Akashic Record readings work
  • Using intuition in business and leadership
  • Integrating spirituality into executive decision-making
  • Why external success doesn't always create fulfillment
  • Developing your own intuitive guidance
  • Moving beyond imposter syndrome
  • Living from authenticity instead of achievement

References Mentioned

  • Akashic Records
  • World Economic Forum
  • Executive leadership
  • Conscious leadership
  • Intuition in business
  • Channeling
  • Higher self
  • Ayahuasca
  • Psilocybin
  • Transformational coaching

Resources Mentioned

Tiffany Mei Yun Chan

https://www.tiffanymchan.com

Kelle Sparta

https://kellesparta.com

Shadow Work Readiness Quiz

https://learn.kellesparta.com/shadowworkquiz

Transcripts

Hello, and welcome to Spirit Sherpa, the show that helps and encourages you on your journey to unlock your magic mojo. I'm Jules. Usually, I'm your co-host, but today I'm gonna kinda be your host because Kelle is out with a migraine today.

But we are going to go on. If you're new to this work, please start with episode one. Intermediate students, you should start with episode 98, and advanced students, you can start with episode 200. So, on today's show, we have Miss Tiffany Mei Yun Chan. My... I said, I said that wrong. Mei Yun Chan. There you go.

And, uh, she is gonna be talking with us today about Akashic Records. Hi, Tiffany. Welcome to the show. Very nice to meet you. It's such a pleasure, Jules. Really great to be here. Our audience is very diverse and, you know, different levels of spiritualism and all, um, and on their spiritual journey. So can you give us a little bit of background as, um, how did you get into this work, um, specifically now Akashic Records?

Yeah, sure. Um, so I'm a spiritual advisor, and I cater to senior executives, founders, those that are desiring and hungering for integrating spirituality into the boardroom. Um, generally speaking, I work with largely male executives, um, those that are... They've encountered some sort of, like, lack of momentum and are seeking a deeper sense of purpose.

They know that there's another gear that is yet to be explored, and yet they have trouble being able to access that. And that's where I come in because they know that, uh, something has shifted fundamentally in terms of their ways of perceiving, um, whether it be they have gone on an ayahuasca journey or, um, have undergone some sort of traumatic event like a divorce or bankruptcy or whatnot.

But something in their worldview has shifted, and they know fundamentally that they're never, ever the same. And they need someone to both, like, add context as to what is going on, but then also be able to, like, frankly just normalize it. Um, in terms of, like, how I came into this work, um, came in from a pretty traditional, conventional background.

Background in political science. I have an MBA. Um, I've lived all across the world. Um, and most people know me through my work at the World Economic Forum, where I worked in Geneva, Switzerland. And through my work at the forum was exposed to the .001% of, you know, the, quote-unquote, "global elite," so some of the most powerful people in the world, whether they be global CEOs, heads of state, heads of, you know, civil society organizations, you know, I was at the table.

Wonderful education, and yet was sort of like, "There's no one here that I would want to emulate, quite frankly. There's no one here that I would want to desire to be like," because I was searching for- a role model of someone who both was kickass at business, really was being able to, like, move things at a fundamental level from a systems perspective, and then also was, like, a really lovely human being that was heart-centered and was desiring to frankly, like, spread love in the world.

I knew something was missing. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but I knew that there was, like, a quality that was, you know, like, that intangible, like, thing, and some would call it love. Um, and so what happened was that I was part of a global fellowship when I was there, um, and then ultimately moved down to Johannesburg in South Africa.

Um, and I was a pedestrian walking one of the busiest intersections in downtown Joburg and, um I, a car hit another car, and that car came rolling towards me. Um, and yeah, and that shifted, you know, everything in my life. I wanna be clear, I was not physically hurt by the car. Um, in my view, it was a miracle, but it was one of those things that was, like, a tremendous wake-up call that really encouraged me to, like, ask those bigger questions and to be able to, like, figure out, okay, what is this thing that I know to be true?

Because when the accident happened, my sense of time and space fundamentally shifted. What had happened was almost was if, like, sort of like that matrix sort of moment in, in the movie. I was gonna say, kind of like the matrix. Precisely. Precisely. Um, and it was just one of these things where I was like, it feels like a portal had opened.

I didn't necessarily have the language for what had happened, but I knew something had happened. Back up a couple of cases, you know, I was living a pretty amazing lifestyle from, like, an Instagram perspective, uh, you know, really interacting with the who's who, doing the what what's, um, was traveling, you know, quite frequently, was living a pretty luxurious lifestyle by, by all accounts and measures, and at the same time, um, was frankly, like, really insecure.

Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though I had these credentials, even though I had the pedigree, there was almost, like, this unders- like, feeling of, like, almost, like, being found out, right? Like, you could call it imposter syndrome. But now that I have, like, greater sort of, um, framing for it, what really was was that I was largely associating with my false self.

I was basing my worthiness on my affiliation, my title, my business card, my relationship with my boyfriend at the time, and I really didn't have a sense of, like, who I was. Um, and so what I tell people was that I was essentially, like, building a castle in the sky. And when the accident happened and I started to fragment, because that's really what happened, I started to, like, crack at a fundamental level because I didn't necessarily have that foundation, that stability of my true self, I started to crumble.

House of cards. Right? Uh, absolutely. You know, I'm a person who took and continues to take a lot of pride in terms of my critical thinking ability, in terms of my ability to make quick decisions. Um, uh, as mentioned, you know, I have an MBA, so have really valued analysis, strong writing, clear linear lines.

And then all of a sudden- not a, like I, I couldn't do any of that. It was difficult for me to cross the street. I was afraid of the dark. Um, it was difficult to like make decisions. Everything that I had based myself on both externally and also internally, like it was a, a matter of like disintegration. So ultimately, you know, I repatriated and I said to God, spirit, source, however you want to call it, um, "You got my attention.

Okay, let's go." And essentially said, "I will give you three months I will give you three months because anything can be figured out in a quarter, and I will project manage the crap out of this thing called spirituality, right? I will I'm laughing because that's me. I'm an auditor. That's my full-time job.

And so, so it's total left brain, so I'm there with you with, "Okay, but this is a process. We have our steps. Now let's work the plan," and, uh, I, I'm right there with you. Let's work the plan. Yes. I got my Gantt chart. Let's go. You got your Gantt chart. Right? Right? Oh, I love that. I was like, that's the only framework that I knew.

You work with what you know. And I was like, "Read these books, listen to this podcast, reach out to X, Y, Z, and then done," you know? And I thought three months done. That was nine years ago. Yeah. And so, you know, as you can imagine, I started, you know, really asking these big questions at a really fundamental level, being like, "What do I believe?

Who is this thing called spirit? Um, does God even exist? What does that actually mean in my life? If there were miracles of past day, why aren't they occurring right now?" I mean, all of that has fundamentally shifted in terms of my worldview because my experience has evolved as well. But, you know, it was really a matter of just searching, seeking, daring to ask, like frankly, kind of like basic, basic questions.

And for someone who has placed such an insistence on wanting to know and clarity as to having the answers, like being the go-to person, it took a cr- an incredible amount of humility to be able to be like, "There's something that is beyond this, and I don't even begin to like comprehend this." Um, so, you know, started seeking spiritual mentors, started going to church regularly, um, started doing cont- contemplative practices.

Um, and then fast-forward to the point where, um, I started experiencing the supernatural in a really funky way, um, in ways that I just could not explain. So I'd be... I used to live in Washington, DC, you know? And so I'm walking down the street in Dupont Circle, where I used to live, and there is rain coming down on one tree on a blue sky day.

I was like, "What the fuck is that?" Dude, I saw that I saw that- Did you know that- Well, wait, wait, 'cause my husband and I, we're all about paranormal stuff. So on Paranormal Caught on Tape, I don't know if that was the exact same thing, but they had film, someone took a film, and it's literally just rain. So say, like, it's, like, on this...

Not a huge tree. It's like a tree, like a ornamental-type tree, right? So it's not real big. So, and this rain was coming down literally from nowhere. There wa- the cloudless sky. There were no clouds. Rain coming down literally on this one part. And you would think, you know, oh, someone's just pouring water. No, no, no, no, no.

Someone has a hose. No, no, no, no. The, the camera pans up, and it's literally out of nothing. So, so that would be amazing if that was the same tree with, with the rain that, that, that you experienced. That, that's crazy. Yeah. When I work with people, and these are very, uh, well-respected executives who, again, have built their entire careers on being credible, rational, making really strong decisions, and then when you start to experience the supernatural, you frankly think you're losing your mind.

And there's a part of, I'll say personally, there was a part of me that thought, "Am I going to the loony bin? Have I just sacrificed my entire career? Am I ever going to be credible in this space? Am I ever going to be able to return back," right? Return back to my life because I have a certain reputation, and I'm unwilling to let that go because I want to be...

I wanna belong. I wanna be seen as, like, that go-to person. Um, and so when I work with people, like, part of me being able to transparently share and vulnerably share is not only, again, to normalize it, but then also from peer to peer, be able to say, "You're not crazy And you're not alone. And oh, by the way, you're in great company because the people that you, that there's a much, you know, with really successful people, whether they be JJ Gurtler over at, at LinkedIn or Marc Benioff over at Salesforce or, you know, Oprah Winfrey, like they've all experienced this, I bet, to some degree.

No one ever really talks about it. And so part of the reason why I am so vocal and so insistent in being able to share this is to give an embodied example of what it means to be one's whole self, meaning mind, body, spirit, soul, and also being able to showcase what it's like to not only use your brain, but all your ways of knowing and actually to be able to say, "Yeah, I access the subtle realms.

Yeah, and I actually have direct application to business, and we're actually moving things at a fundamental level, the systems perspective, because we're using all of who we are to actually create positive change in the world." Wow. So, and as I was reading in your bio, one of your, um, one of your focuses is breaking the mold on what it means to be spiritual.

Can you describe for me how, how do you approach, you know, these power- very powerful, very successful, um, people, you know, with this? You know, what's, again, what's the icebreaker? You know, how, how, how, how do they, how do they receive this? And has it, you know, how has your life changed from before accident to now?

You know, and I'm just using that as a, as a time marker. Um, as far as being heard and implementing this, th- this type of work. People resonate with authenticity Like, they, people have a pretty good BS meter, and the fact of the matter is, is that I ain't hiding. There's like... I'm at, I'm, there's a, I'm at a point where, like, there are no masks, you know?

It's sort of like I am who I am who I am who I am, and I am unapologetic about who I am, 'cause I know who I am. You know, I'm a child of God, and you can never take that away from me. And so from that perspective, I am speaking directly into their hearts and directly into their souls, and whether or not they, their minds resonate with it, I know that their soul does.

So I think there's a certain level of confidence as well as authenticity that I go in, and I just know. And if their minds say, "Nope," totally respect that, totally understand, and that is their journey, and I'm like, "Cool. That's fine." But I have to say, the more that I am pure in terms of, like, aligning to my true self, allowing my light to shine, really allowing myself to be as authentic as possible, people want to draw closer.

And the fact of the matter is, is that a lot of people have been asking themselves really big questions, particularly in the last couple of years. In my view, COVID accelerated, you know, consciousness, and we're on a rocket ship heading, you know, only up. And so, um, when I approach people, yes, there's a little bit of, like, an awkwardness, and if I'm really honest, there's a part of me that's sort of like Are you gonna accept all of who I am?

Are you going to, are you gonna like the new me? You know, are you gonna like the true me? Um, and then the other part is sort of like, step into it, step into it. Because the more that I give myself permission to do so, energetically, I give others permission to do the same. And whether or not that is, like, an initial sort of, like, 15-minute catch-up conversation or a deeper conversation where people are like, "Listen, I saw your writing on LinkedIn.

It totally resonated. Let's have a chat," and then that leads to deeper conversations. Part of the reason why people trust me was because I was a damn good colleague to begin with. So not only do I have the credentials and then also the reputation working with people professionally, so they know me, they've developed that human relationship, but I'm also able to explain things in a way that frankly just makes sense, that is accessible.

And it's not to, like, dumb down or dilute any of the wisdom that is coming through, but I think that there's value to actually being able to translate the metaphysical in a way that is relatable. And quite frankly, when I started to encounter the supernatural, part of me was just like, "I don't wanna be taken for a fool You know?

I don't wanna, like, be taken for a ride, not only in terms of monetarily, but then also, like, frankly, like, to be able to lose control in that regard. Like, I don't... Like, I've seen the shams, and I'm not gonna be that person. Um, and so I, I think that there's a lot of people who are like that, and the more that I'm upfront with that and then are able to not only draw the parallels between what we experience here in sort of like the woo sort of language, but then also are able to ground it in science, and then also be able to say, "Oh, by the way, you've, you, you've not only, like, like, are doing this, but you've done this your entire life in terms of channeling and, like, tapping into the subtle realms," people are like, "Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah." And so when you give people, like, a mapping, not only mapping their experience to my experience, but also mapping what they're experiencing in the world to, like, what they've experienced in childhood, you're able to, like, have them be able to, like, pick up on those signals and be like, "You know, when I stepped into that room and I knew that my cat had died, and my parents didn't even tell me, but I sort of just knew 'cause I could, like, pick up empathetically what was going on," I was like, that's more than emotional intelligence.

You know? That's your clair empathy. And then being able to, uh, articulate, you know, contextualize the situation, but then also be able to, like, actually name it, and then actually draw that particular situation to something that they're encountering right now in a professional setting, everything sort of clicks, right?

And they're sort of like, "Ah, I get it. Yeah, that, that rumbling in my stomach when I knew something was wrong when that colleague came up to me, like, I knew that, you know, I probably shouldn't have entered in in that partnership. I probably shouldn't have signed on that dotted line." And that's when, you know, my higher self was telling me, "Oh, you know, it's probably not in your highest good to partner with that person."

So, you know, ultimately, what I'm trying, what I am, what I'm trying and what I am doing is both, like, helping people not only trust the ways that Spirit's talking to them but also being able to act on those ways of knowing. Because when we're in alignment with Spirit, we're actually shifting this particular dimension and actually raising the level of consciousness, not only on behalf of the leader, but the organizations that they lead.

When you are with a client and say that we're gonna pretend I'm the president of Jewel's company, right? And, uh, so, um, Kelle has talked before about, you know, whenever you're, you're birthing a company, you know, and that's ... It, it becomes part of ... There's a whole energetic around that company, right? So, so when you work with a client, um, you, you would go into the, uh, into my Akashic records and then s- see what would be beneficial to this particular moment or in my business and bring that?

Or would you teach me how to go into the Akashic and, and, and get my own records out? How does that work and how do you ... What, what type of information, you know, comes back that then can affect ... 'Cause what I'm wondering is if it can ... I can see it affecting the organization, but I was even wondering like product lines or how you enter into certain contracts or do you do this widget or that widget, you know?

Love this question. Love this question. So the first question, how do I work with people? So I work with them threefold. One, I serve as a channel. So I'm basically hollow bone and I channel energy, wisdom to be able to, um, be in service to primarily the individual first because when the individual is healed, they themselves are able to spread light out to, you know, their team, to their organization.

So primarily it's a personal relationship. The second part is that I follow up that channeling/ you know, Akashic record session with a coaching session because, you know, it's ... I've seen so many people have these transcendental experiences, whether they be facilitated by psilocybin or ayahuasca or an Akashic record session and then sort of like poof, like the experience sort of like dwindles, right?

And I'm all about like- Owning what happened, really being able to, uh, unpack the session, being able to integrate the wisdom into your body so that you can actually feel the full, like, uh, resonance of what actually happened, and then be able to access that so that you can take powerful action in the world.

So in the Akashic Records session, people are asking me questions. I'm serving as a channel to bring that wisdom through. I follow it up with a coaching session where I ask them questions, and I help them access their ways of knowing because everyone has, you know, that inner navigation system. So it's not about sort of like Tiffany Chan or like God on high said to do X, Y, Z, right?

It's about, okay, what felt like truth? What do you wanna action on? And let's actually create systems, um, and a process and scaffolding so that you can actually, like, bring that down and be able to bring it into this reality. So where does the rubber hit the road? And let's develop some accountability into that.

So again, first part's Akashic Records, second part is coaching, third part is skills development. So should someone continue to, like, want to partner with me, then it's sort of like, okay, how can you do this yourself? Because I don't want to create a false sense of dependency, because the reality is, is that all of us came here with certain skills, gifts, and abilities, and this isn't about, you know, Tiffany Chan the guru.

This is about you being able to recognize God's spirit source in you, you being able to trust that so that you can be able to do it consistently and in service of the highest good. So not only being able to transmit energy so that they can be able to access the higher realms, but then also building the confidence that, that they can develop that quiet listening and then actually action that into this reality.

So again, Akashic records, coaching, as well as skills development, that's how I work with people. Relating to the second half of your question as to like, what do you actually do with this stuff? Most of the relationship is primarily... When the relationship starts out, it's largely a personal relationship.

It's sort of like, you know, like I'm going through a divorce, or, you know, I'm really good at this, but for somehow, like I feel like I have this another gear that has yet to be explored, and I don't know what that is. Help me figure out what that is. Over time, as I work with people, so we, we, we, you know, do a lot of like the personal healing.

We're able to, uh, do emotional healing related to past lives, current lives, family dynamics, all that sort of stuff. As that relationship develops, inevitably, because these are high-powered people, there is a business component, and they're like, "Oh, what are the implications to my business? Like, what do I actually do with my team?"

And so you can do things like harmonize relationships within your team. You can do things like calling in financial partnerships for like collaborators where you actually have a particular soul contract. You can be able to, um, develop strategy, vision, and planning for a particular like market segment or a new product.

So we have brought those through directly from the records. And again, it's not just like something that God on high or Tiffany Chan has brought through. It's sort of like, this is where spirit's directing you. They actually are giving very pragmatic, very, um, specific guidance on this. What do you wanna do about that?

You know, access your own ways of knowing. How do you wanna work in co-creation with spirit? Even though they said X, you have free will. What do you wanna do, like X plus whatever, so that you can bring this into reality in a way that feels in alignment with you and that you feel really passionate about? A- as you're describing this, I was wondering, it seems like, too, this would be extremely helpful if, um, like I feel stuck in my job, you know?

A- and this may not be the career for me, or if I really w- you know, it's time for a change. You know, that's, uh... And that's why I was wondering, it s- it seems like this would be very helpful for that also. Mm-hmm. Yes. We'll, we'll say yes. We'll say yes to that. That's awesome. I get a lot of that. I get a lot of that.

You know, and interestingly, you know, um, again, I work primarily with, with men, but it's a lot of men, um, are lonely, and they're at this really s- interesting inflection point where they're evaluating, like, what does it mean to be a man now? What does it be- mean to be a man in this world? What does it mean to, um, be my whole self in a way that is, like, constantly sh- Like, it feels like many people say that, many men say that, like, feels like the ground is shifting beneath their feet.

And they know, again, that they're being called to a different sense of purpose, but they don't necessarily know what that is, right? And a lot of people in general, but particularly with those that I serve, are sort of asking themselves, like, "What's the higher purpose here? I, I know that I've kicked ass in this particular lane, but-" wasn't that fulfilling.

I made a lot of money. I, you know, exhausted myself. I, you know, I did fairly well by conventional standards, but, like, why doesn't that feel good? Why does-- why doesn't it feel as good as I thought it would be, right? And so part of this is sort of like untangling the mental frameworks that have been placed on us and really allowing ourselves to connect with that of which, uh, we're, is like our highest destiny, our highest potentiality, and that's what I help people do.

And ultimately, um, you know, transparently, what I want to do is also create like a, a cohort of folks who are willing to be that embodied example. You know, in the same way that I was searching for those examples to like model my life after and I was like, "Wow, I, I guess I, I guess I need to be that person," right?

You know, it's like if there's no one else there, like I gotta be that person. You know, as I show up, I'm giving other people permission to do the same, and my hope, my, my, my prayer is that we actually create like, uh, an ecosystem of folks that people can point to and say, "Yeah, I wanna be like that." It, it's very interesting to, to hear you speak, um, a-about your own personal experience in that, um, because to, to me listening to it, it's...

You had, you had to go through your, I'll say your business self To develop all of those skills to now have a very, very unique perspective. So now when you were looking around and going, "All right, I'm trying to find somebody that n- there's nobody here." You know, it's like, well, universe say, "Guess what?

It's your turn. Poof." And then said, "You gonna be the go-to, but you gonna be the go-to on a whole 'nother level." But then it, it, it's just, it's amazing to me how, how the universe works. And just the way I see it is like you, you had to go through all of that to be ready then for this transition into this new role that maybe hasn't existed, you know, in this particular dynamic before, you know?

And I find it even more interesting that you're a woman dealing with, uh, and a lot, a lot of your clients are men, you know. And I, I, I find that very, very interesting. Um, you know, in, in my business perspective, you know, the, the women are very, very good at details, and the men not so much at the details, but the bigger picture.

And it just, it seems to me a very natural fit that here, now you're coming in with the details. They may have a big picture, but they're missing the details and, and that, that higher purpose, you know? Uh, I find it very interesting that, you know, just being a normal, normal, you know, work, day-to-day kind of person that, you know, here's the 1% of the 1% of the 1%, you know, that, that you deal with, that even after doing all of these things that on any level are just absolutely phenomenal and spectacular success, that it, even they are like, "Okay, well that was great.

Now what?" You know? And, and they still, they're not fulfilled with that. In, in, in my words, it's cool to see that because it also humanizes them, that they're not this, "Ah." It's not, you know, not unattainable, you know? It still makes them human 'cause a lot of like, you know, social media and, and all of the things, trying to live up to these, you know, standards and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And like you were saying, it's, it's all existential, you know? It's all out and it's not their true self, you know? Um, and, and not all, all of that, that person. So I just, I find it fascinating. Thank you. In my experience, you know, everyone is hungering to be seen. Right? And particularly when you are a high-powered, quote-unquote, successful person, there is more to lose.

And so there, there is more incentive to keep those masks on. And, uh, people don't realize that they are in so much pain. They don't realize the prison that they have created for themselves. They- they're realizing that, wow, my-- I am traveling on this jet, but my world is getting smaller and smaller and smaller, and I don't know why.

And everyone talks about, like, the loneliness of leadership because there are very few peers that they can be able to talk to, and people are constantly wanting something from them. And the-- it is radically different when you are confronted or when you meet with someone like me who's like, "Listen, I don't care."

Like, I, I see you, and I respect you, and I can understand the language, and I've been in that world, and I've also fallen from it. I- I think that's what, you know, people forget is like, I was there, and then I fell. I went from, you know, hanging out in a Swiss, you know, ski town to, like, living with my parents.

Like, this is this was, this was, this was not planned. You know? And it's like, there's no, there's no shame in like, you know, like, making that transition. But man, I, I told myself a lot of stories, and at the same time would watch my colleagues and as their careers ascended, right? Like, and was thinking to myself, I'm like, "I am learning how to drive again."

You know? Like, I am, like, trying to just put on, like, my pants for today. Like, why is this that this is happening, and my colleagues that I was in the same fellowship with are, like, getting a partner at a management consultancy? I'm like, "Wow, I have failed." But I gotta say, like, there's something about hitting, quote-unquote, rock bottom that's incredibly freeing because the fact of the matter is, is that I'm not scared.

I really-- like, I am-- I'm, I'm not s- Like, the, it, it, the, if, if the thing that I had feared most happened and I am still standing and alive and vibrant and healthy and, like, my sense of self-worth is frankly strengthened as a result, like, there's nothing that I'm scared of And, and that is, and that is the freedom that I am coming with when I meet these executives because they're scared, and there's something confronting about being with a woman who presents as Asian and who doesn't give a crap about all of that masking and actually is more interested in who they truly are.

And so I don't believe in calling people out, but I do believe in calling people forth. And by calling people forth-- yeah, by calling people forth, it's like, "Give me your true self." Like, because I'm, I'm not-- I don't have time for that other stuff. Let's, let's actually, let's actually, like, talk about what really matters and cultivate that and give you a safe space so that you can be able to trust that and be that consistently in all facets of your life.

I love that. And it, um, how you were speaking about that, uh, Kelle s-talk, talks about that, um, if I have my terms right, it's transformational deconstruction. It's totally, you know, tearing away who you thought you were. Now everything you thought, you thought you believed and believed is true and all your truths, now everything's getting reevaluated and rebuilding, you know, and, and coming out on the other end a totally different person, you know?

Um, so if someone-- so if I, if I were to ask you, would you ever go back? If you had a time machine and could go back pre-rec to how you were, you know, living the, uh, you know, without ever know what you know now. Well, for-- transparently, I live a pretty fantastic life right now. I live, I live in, I li- I live in San Diego, California.

Every day is beautiful. Um, so there's that. Um, would I go back to that part of me that- Had more predictability and, you know, uh, had more sense of like what the path was. Like, I, I live a pretty surrendered life and, and s- I gotta be honest, not the easiest thing at times because I really like my way. And gotta be hon- you know, gotta be honest about that.

omorrow is going to look like:

You know? And really living that surrendered way. Not the easiest thing, and I also know that every single time I follow, there is a tremendous sense of peace because I'm not trying to do it all by myself. And when I'm completely in the present and when I'm completely in the moment, it's almost like the waves part and everything's just taken care of.

And so I trust. You know? I've, I, I keep telling people that, um, you know, I, I didn't just fall into this surrendered state. This was a, a function of building a relationship, and this was something that spirit has been asking of me. And because spirit continues to be able to showcase that they have my highest good in mind, I continue to step forward.

And because I know that I am changing lives at a fundamental level and because I'm changing lives with people that are in places of like significant leverage, I know that I'm fundamentally shifting things at a systems level as well. And so as I continue to be me and as I continue to be surrendered, I know that I'm actually shifting the vibration of the world.

And I mean, there's, there's nothing better. What's one of the best lessons that you've learned from, um, from the Akashic records? It's not you Um, and by that I mean when stuff comes out of my mouth, I'm not attached to it. There, there are things that come out of my mouth- ... where I'm like, "Really?" I can relate to that one now.

Like,

really? Like, ooh. Did I just say that? Like, it, and, and, you know, like, that, that sounded really outlandish, or man, that was really pointed, or what- it, the, the records are always loving, right? It's this expansive loving and, you know. But the ways sometimes they work through me, it's like they're very efficient, let me put it that way, and they cut to the chase.

Uh, they cut, they, they c- you know, because, like, the vehicle that I am just cut to the chase. Um, but it's... But what's interesting is when I meet with people for the first time, I'm like, "Listen, I'm not attached. If, if it resonates, great, pay attention, work with it. And if it doesn't, like, I'm not gonna be offended," you know?

And I say that because, like, it's not me. It's not me. And so whatever comes through, it's sort of like I'm just being used in service of that thing. And I offer that because there's this expansive love that is beyond anything that Tiffany Chan can ever offer or give. If I'm surrendered to the process and if I'm surrendered to spirit, again, it's not me.

And there's something really intimate about seeing people from the perspective of God, and you are able to see the most beautiful, pure essence of who they truly are, and you are... I'm like in awe of the exquisite beauty that resides in every single person. It has fundamentally reoriented how I interact with the world.

Even if someone, like, pisses me off or even if there's an, a person, you know, randomly on the street where I'm like, "Really? That's particularly not my choice," I remind myself of, like, how would spirit see them? Like, what would be the perspective? Like, what would... how would the universe be able to bestow love on this person?

And from that, you know, I'm able to, like, reside in this place of compassion because I recognize even though I have my judgments and I-- Tiffany Chan has her judgments, her perceptions, I know that spirit source looks upon everyone with a gaze of gentleness, awe, appreciation, and love, and that's the truth

Yeah. That, that is awesome. I'm so excited to have you on the show today. Thank you. Um, if someone wants to work with you and get in touch with you, what's the best way for them to do that? Yeah. The best way is through my website, www.tiffanym, as in Mary, chan.com. Uh, there's an application, and we can get on a Zoom call and see if we're a good fit for one another.

Okay. Well, we will include, um, your website and I'll... in our show notes for today. And, um, thank you so much again for being our guest. Thank you so much, uh, for agreeing to come on the podcast. I know our list- our listeners are gonna love hearing from you. Oh, it was such a pleasure. Thank you so much, Jules.

Absolutely. All right. Well, that's all that we have time for this week, folks. Tune in next time when Kelle, who will be back from... and be much... feeling much better than she is now. Uh, she will add another chapter into your guide to energy, magic, and the spirit world. Another hundred sunsets. I'm Jules, here with Tiffany Chan, and you've been listening to Spirit Circle.

So long, everyone. Bye.

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