This week's re-run is such a good one with Flo from The Catholic Nutritionist! We talk all about holistic nutrition, women's health, cycle tracking, and what it really means to have freedom with food. I loved our conversation about caring for our bodies in a way that's rooted in our faith and seeing them as the gift God created them to be. Whether you're struggling with your health or simply want to learn more, I think you'll walk away feeling encouraged and empowered.

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Hey, I am your host, Mari Wagner,

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Welcome to ever be.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Welcome back to Ever Be everybody.

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Today's podcast is gonna be

one that I am so pumped about.

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'cause if you've been listening for

a while, you know I have just been

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getting into all things like holistic

living, holistic nutrition, clean

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living, all the things we are here

to optimize our health and wellness.

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And Flo is gonna help us do this today.

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So Flo, welcome to ever Beat.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Thanks for having me.

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I'm so excited.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: I would

love for you to just kind of start out by

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telling us who you are and what do you do.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes, so I'm Florencia.

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I'm the founder of the Catholic

Nutritionist and we are a Catholic women's

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health practice, specifically for Catholic

women who want to optimize their health

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through a holistic lens and without

destroying their relationship with food.

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So we care a lot, a lot about really

seeing food as a gift and as a blessing.

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And how do you, how do you use it

strategically while also having

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a lot of peace and freedom.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Yeah, that sounds amazing.

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Can you just kind of dive a little

bit about into your journey,

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like how did you even start this?

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What was the journey that led you

from, I know we talked about you

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being a missionary and I read a little

bit about this on your website, you

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know, what journey, what was the

journey that took you from being

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an exhausted missionary, which.

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I can relate, anybody in, in, in ministry

can relate, um, to becoming a holistic

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nutritionist and a fem instructor.

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I know that you also do stuff in

kind of the fertility realm, so share

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about what that journey was like.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I wish it was a cute story, but it's

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a lot of rock bottoms over and over,

which is really like most people that

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you will meet in the health industry.

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It's a very similar, and that's why

if if you, someone like really cares,

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all of a sudden it's typically because

they've gone through a lot, a lot, a lot.

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So for me, I call it this

like terrible trifecta.

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It was like my Bermuda triangle of

my life was really horrible Periods.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Devastating, long, excruciating,

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like, and just being told to get on

birth control from the time I was

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like 14 on that was my only option.

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Then really, really bad gut

issues where it was like,

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well then just stop eating me.

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Wait, you can just take me and like

going back and forth and like just

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a lot of pain every single day.

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So really struggling with food.

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From a symptomatic sense, but then

also struggling with food, with, um,

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a very long history of disordered

eating and very disordered body image.

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And so this little Bermuda triangle, my

little, my little battleship finally sank

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actually my first year as a missionary.

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Um, because I just like spiraled a few

different factors, which if you've ever.

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Struggled with disordered eating

and you think that it's, you'll

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be like, oh, it's like done.

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Like that's the kind of the mindset that

I had that I was like, oh, it's over.

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Like God healed that.

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That was something I

struggled with in high school.

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We're past it and it took me a

really, really long time and it took

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me hitting kind of rock bottom again

to realize that this is like a scar

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that's always gonna be on my heart.

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And sometimes scar tissue, it gets

a little, like, if it gets moved the

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wrong way, the pain opens back up.

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And that's kind of how I

describe what happened there.

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So I kind of like.

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Plummeted into the worst things

that I had ever done in terms of

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like how I was treating myself.

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And it wasn't until my second year I,

oh, well, I got engaged in the middle

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of that, which is like a very bizarre,

bizarre season to be living when

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you're already like, um, surviving.

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And then it was through, like I started

tracking my cycle and my Creighton

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instructor, I remember her being like, oh.

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Yeah, you need to go see a doctor and

that like my stomach dropped because it

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was like always something that I had like

been confused and worried about and I was

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so excited to track my cycle, but then

to be told like, oh, there's obviously

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things that are wrong with your hormones,

but then not be told what to do about it.

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I found it like really distressing

and that was kind of the way.

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Call that I needed where the Lord was

like, Hey, like what you're doing,

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like literally goes against the way

I designed your body to function.

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So I got like super into everything and

really realized what the Lord's plan was.

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And then I was like, man, Catholic, women

of all women are the ones that should

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be like the, the heralds of this truth.

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The ones that are able to like

scream this off the mountaintops.

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So then quit, went back to

school, and then here we're.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Oh my goodness.

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That is amazing.

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Sounds like a rocky road you were

on, but you're so right when you talk

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about how like the people that know

so much or the people that really

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care, or the people that are really

in the wellness industry, I think

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especially there to like help with.

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All of this kind of stuff is because

they went through it themselves.

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They experienced life

before and life after.

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It's kind of like your own

little testimony, you know,

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like pre Jesus, post Jesus.

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Not that this is Jesus, but you know,

like you've experienced what life

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was like before and then you, I.

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Actually work towards finding healing

and now you're experiencing the freedom

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afterwards, which is so amazing.

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So first of all, thank you

for the work that you do.

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I bet that you're just helping so

many women and I think just the

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story you just shared, probably so

many listeners can relate to one

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or several parts of that journey.

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Um, none of these are like one-off

situations that, you know, you're

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weird for experiencing that.

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Um, I think it's very

unfortunately very common.

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So.

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Thank you for sharing that.

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curious, when was the turning point that

you feel like you had where you realized,

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oh, my body's not just broken or bad.

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You know, there's actually just

something deeper that's going on

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that I just haven't found out yet.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It was a, I like that you, thank

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you for asking it that way because

like, it truly was this battle

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and this war against my body

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

being like, oh, it is just, I guess it's

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broken, and like, why does it always

feel like it's working against me?

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Um, and there was a very distinct turning

point, um, at Leanne Bowens Ranch.

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Know Leanne.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Okay.

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She's an artist.

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We love her.

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And she like was so gracious and

had a bunch of the women missionary

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over to her ranch for a little

retreat, which we needed desperately.

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And that's the good thing about a

retreat is that it like pulls you

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out of your environment where you can

like start to think and breathe again.

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And I was living in like.

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Long Beach, California, which

is very tight city, very

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busy, and it was like COVID.

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So it was a very unpleasant

time to live in a city.

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So we go out to like this beautiful

green rolling hills, and at one point she

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shared her testimony, like right in the

beginning when we got there, she shares

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her testimony and part of it is like that,

that one saying of like, what will you

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do with this one wild and precious life.

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And it was that reflecting on that,

that then led her into her art business

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and like really giving her heart to

the Lord in many, many other ways.

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And I remember hearing that question

and like being sad and hearing

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the question and being like, oh.

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Like I'm, why does it feel

like I'm like not living right?

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Like I'm, I just got married.

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I am like doing the job that

I wanted to do for years.

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I'm living in a city that I thought

that I wanted to live in really bad.

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Like all these things are like, good,

but why does it feel like I'm like,

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totally, my life is like passing

me by, or I am just like not living

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it the way that God wants me to.

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And so I was just like

immediately thrown into.

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Despair almost and being like, you

know when something hits you and then

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you're just like in your own world.

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And so I remember like walking through

the fields, she like took us on a

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walk to look at, it's a cattle ranch

that they live on and she took us on

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a walk through the fields and I'm like

staring down at the grass and I'm like,

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: no.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

like if little me met me, if

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like 7-year-old me met me, she'd

be like, what are we doing?

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Like.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

like lost girl.

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I,

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

And like on the outside, everything's

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going great, but I feel like

only she would know because she'd

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be like, why are you so sad?

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Like, why do you cry every day?

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And like, why, why are you

like destroying your body?

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And like all of these different things.

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And so it really was this huge gut

check of being like, man, Lord,

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like I feel like if 7-year-old me

met me, she would be disappointed.

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And like, how did you even make

my heart, like that heart that

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I had as like a little girl?

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Like what's, what's even in it?

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Because now I feel like I just like

layered all these other things of like

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other people's expectations or things

that I thought might be cool, but maybe

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didn't like actually align with who I am.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

so then I was like.

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I literally don't know how to pray

through this, but they had adoration

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in her living room that night and so

I was like, I'm gonna open Genesis.

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I was like, where?

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Where else do you go?

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But the very beginning when

you have no idea what to do.

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So I opened Genesis two and I

like reread the creation account

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and I swear it was like I had

never read it in my entire life.

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I like read it and it was like jumping

off the page where I was like, oh my gosh.

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Like everything we

needed was in the garden.

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Like when we say, and this was like when

that one song, I think it's Stephanie

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Retinger, about like This is the Garden.

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That one was like.

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Really popular and I

would listen to it a lot.

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And so I would like pray with

this idea of the garden a lot.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

go into the garden in Genesis

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and I'm like, everything's there.

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Our vocation, like all I ever wanted

was to get married and now I have like

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the love of my life right next to me.

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And then he gives us like the

animal stick care of, all I ever

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wanted was like a bunch of cows and

horses and like every little girl.

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Um, and then he's like the land

to take care of and like all of

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the fruit off of the trees to eat.

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And I was like, oh my gosh.

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He gave us like.

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That's, that's what a good life is.

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And I don't know if you remember

this, but you were at that training,

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but at my first year summer training

father, or sorry, Monsignor Shea gave

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a talk on the Art of Living Well,

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

and it changed my brain

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because he was like.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: whole,

that whole summer that I was there with

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you, that whole summer changed my brain.

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So I'm like, I do remember that talk.

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I don't know if I specifically

remember like the main points of that.

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'cause I was also like, I don't

know, 20, like soaking everything up.

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It was just game changing for me.

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But anyways, keep going.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

But he just kept talking about how

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he was like, you guys of all people

should know how to live well and

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you should be an example of that.

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And like, I remember one of the examples

he gave, he was like, do you know

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why I have like Rombauer Zinfandel

at Chesterton's at the bar on campus?

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Like, do you know why we sell that there?

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Because I think it's one of the best

wines in the world, and I need you

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to know what good wine tastes like.

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Before you go out onto a college

campus and around people that

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are just like drinking to drink

and to like drown themselves, you

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know, all these kinds of things.

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And I just like that year I thought

a lot about like, what does it

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mean to like rediscover the art of

living well and to like live a life

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that's worthy of imitation and.

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Just going through that again and

being like, wow, like in the garden,

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that's like what living well is.

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And so then I was like, wait, I

cannot be like at odds with my

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body and at odds with food if this

is like a gift that he's given.

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It was like a very, very clear

moment of being like, and then

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really being him, being like, do

you believe that you're made good?

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Like when I said that to you in the

garden, like, do you believe that?

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And at that point, no, I couldn't say

that I did, you know, but it was a

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journey that he was like trying to take

me on and that's I think why he led it.

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Like kind of crash and burn the way that

it needed to in order that I would be

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like, Lord, I have to ask you again.

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Like I feel like I just

wasn't asking anymore

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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That is incredible.

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I love that you had that moment like.

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I know you weren't like in the jungle or

in a garden, but like in, in, in nature,

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

the fields.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: like

in creation, in god's like beautiful

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creation where he like brought you back

to the garden and like his intention

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for you and your body and how good you

are and how good his creation is and how

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he gave us everything that we needed.

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Um, sometimes we need to be like

taken out of our day to day and our

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daily routine and our environment to.

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Actually feel like we hear God speak into

our lives, so I'm not surprised that's

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when you had your like big aha moment.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Truly, truly, I think it's like, he's

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like, girl, we gotta get you moving.

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We, we gotta change the scenery so that

your brain can be opened in your heart.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Totally.

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Totally.

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So for those who might be unfamiliar

with the term like holistic

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nutrition, how would you describe it?

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How is it different from

maybe conventional approaches

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that people are more used to?

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And if you wanna answer within

that, who might benefit from

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this type of nutrition approach?

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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I think one of the like

starkest contrasts.

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Between holistic and or functional

care and conventional care

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is that we are really working

to see the person as a whole.

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And whereas like the common

experience of a woman is like,

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oh, you have really bad periods.

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Okay, go ahead and go talk to your ob.

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And then when you're at

the ob, you're like, yeah.

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And when my period starts,

my skin freaks out.

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And they're like, oh, good.

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Then you should go talk to your derm.

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And then you're with the derm and you're

like, Hey, and I started this medication

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and it's like my stomach is like.

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Torn up and they're like, Hmm,

maybe we should get you with the gi.

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Like we're just like used to being

split up in a ton of like tiny pieces.

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And I feel like as women, it's so

rare that we actually go to get

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care and have everything be tied

together, which everything is like

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no system in the body works alone.

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Your cycle is not completely separate.

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Separate from your skin and it's not

completely separate from your gut

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and it's not completely separate from

like your mood and your mental health.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

single thing works as one

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and it influences each other.

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And so I feel like it's the

only way that makes sense.

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And then in a particular sense, like

as Catholics, I think it's the only way

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that makes sense and can really help

to like honor creation when we see the

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whole, of course we need conventional

medicine and western medicine for a lot of

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things, but I do think having a holistic

perspective just in our own lives.

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Really can help us, um, kind of wash

away a lot of the frustration of

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thinking that your body is broken and

that it just doesn't make any sense.

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Whereas it's like, well, yeah,

like we have to sum up the parts.

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We have to put it all together

for everything to start to click.

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So holistic, I would really

think is just like whole person.

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Putting together all the systems

of the body and we're looking for

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optimal health rather than only ever

treating things when we're sick.

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Um, and like how much, how much of

our sickness in our world and in

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our country right now is because

of our nutrition and our lifestyle.

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Like how much of it is just because

of the way that, that the daily habits

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that we have completely go against the

way God created our bodies to function.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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Absolutely.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's brutal.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: like

your Catholic faith informs this approach?

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Like, how does your Catholic

faith influence the way you

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approach nutrition and wellness?

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Hmm.

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I love that.

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Well, one, we're all big.

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Uh, my whole team is all Catholic and

actually all preview former missionaries.

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So like we all have very similar

formation, which is really fun.

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Um, we're all big TOB girlies.

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So really technology of the body and

the, the, the meaning, the spousal

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meaning of the body and beginning

to see that a lot of people do walk

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around like they're just, um, wearing

skin suits, soles with skin suits.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Hmm.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

That is like completely anti-Catholic.

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Like that is, that is not

how we see the body at all.

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But it's kind of this idea that it's

like, oh, this is just a container.

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My soul is what's really, really holy

and good and that's worth taking care of.

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Um, and it is honorable for me to

like pray and go to confession and

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participate in sacraments, but we

go to the opposite extreme and then

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it's like, well then it would be.

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Sinful or selfish or self-centered

if I actually cared about the body

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as well, when really we have to like

reintegrate the mind, the body, and the

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soul to like live a good human life.

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So that's a big thing about

like reintegrating it.

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That's one of the the biggest things

that we work on with women is being

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like, Hey, like you are totally

allowed to care about this and you

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are so right to care about this.

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And that's actually one of the most

generous things you can do as a Catholic

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woman, especially if you dream of like.

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Being a mom one day, or maybe you

work in ministry and you serve so

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many people or whatever it may be

like your body's gonna go with you,

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so you have to start paying attention.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Totally.

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And I just, I love the whole concept

of like integrating all together,

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and I think that's part of why I.

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Feel like the holistic and functional

integrative approach is so in line with

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Mm-hmm.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: a

Christian worldview because we do

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believe that it is all integrated,

like God didn't create all these

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parts to be separate from each other.

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They all inform each other,

they all affect each other.

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And while we're going through physical

healing with whatever it might be like.

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God is also working in our

heart and in our soul to

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

have there be emotional

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healing and spiritual healing.

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And I mean, I've

experienced that firsthand.

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Like we've shared our fertility journey

online and it has been a health journey,

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a a long journey that we are like

constantly like appointments, learning

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new things, testing, like learning

new things about my body, my nutrition

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hormones, how it all affects each other.

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And along the way, like.

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I don't know how that could ever be

separate from my emotional health and my

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spiritual health, because I'm inviting

God into every step of the journey and

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every time we find something and you

offering it back to him and asking his

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guidance and asking him like everything

he allows in our life is intentional.

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I'm like, why have you brought me here?

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What are you using this journey for?

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You know, where is there healing in

this space as well as the physical, you

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know, space that you are providing for.

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So that integration

that you're bringing up.

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I think it's so important.

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florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

You could probably even speak to

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that, like with how much you've

gone through in your health journey

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in the past few years of like it.

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The Lord allows it, and for whatever

reason, he's like, Hey, this is actually

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one of the best ways that I can reach

this very specific part of your heart.

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Like with every single test that you do or

every change that you do, like you uncover

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different parts that you're like, oh, I

would've never known this about myself.

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I would've never known how little I trust

you if I didn't have to go through this.

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Or I would've never known

like how quick I am to like.

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Turn on you and to like, get

resentful if I don't get what I want.

392

You know, like it's, he really uses

like the bodily weakness and the healing

393

journey to be like, Hey, like now we're

gonna go to a separate part of your

394

heart that we've never gone to before.

395

And like, this is the time.

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mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes.

397

Yeah.

398

Gosh.

399

I feel like we could do a whole

podcast episode just on that.

400

That is so good.

401

Um, let's shift gears a little

bit to talk about feminine

402

health, feminine femininity.

403

'cause I know that's a big

part of your mission as well.

404

So you talk a lot about honoring

the feminine body and seeing

405

it as good and beautiful.

406

So can you share more of like, what is

your heart behind this and how does this

407

tie into the specific work that you do?

408

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Hmm.

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Well really one, I'm a girl, girl.

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I was raised by girls.

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I'm around girls.

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Like I only ever want to talk to girls.

413

Obviously I love my husband, but

there's just like something about the

414

feminine heart and the feminine mind.

415

I think it's the best thing in the world.

416

The the dilemma.

417

Is when you start to see being a

woman as being a curse, just because

418

of like what you're experiencing in

your body, um, or sincerely, like your

419

femininity is on attack every single day.

420

Every single day.

421

Like it is one of the devil's.

422

Favorite things and

like, why could that be?

423

Like, could it be that like you're

the crown of creation and you're

424

also the heart of your home.

425

And so if like the devil can reach

you, if the devil can reach a woman's

426

heart and be like, Hey, you need

to be obsessed about how you look.

427

The whole point of your life

is to be as small as possible.

428

Um, everything you do is not good enough.

429

You actually need to be trying

way harder all the time too.

430

But don't be vain and at the same time,

like make sure that everyone around

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you is constantly pleased and like that

vocation that God has promised you.

432

Yeah, you need to work for it and earn it.

433

And like you can't actually trust that

he has good things planned for you.

434

Like it's this like constant barrage that

then it makes it be like, what is this?

435

Like is this what it's, and

I, I remember like exhausting.

436

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

that whole list is exhausting.

437

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

And it's like so real.

438

And then on top of it, layer in that like

once a month you're like knocked out cold

439

for four days and like woken up in the

middle of the night with horrible cramps.

440

You know, like that.

441

That is a recipe for

resentment against the father.

442

And that's like the whole,

that's the whole plan.

443

Like that's the enemy's plan is for

you to like, not trust that he's

444

good and that you have a father

that wants to take care of you and.

445

I just distinctly remember having a friend

tell me once that she was like, gosh,

446

like my cycle feels like such a curse that

I'm like, why did God do this to women?

447

And I remember being like, oh, like that.

448

And this is a faithful woman.

449

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

450

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

To think that God is like just cursing

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us with the design of our body.

452

That's where I think like understanding

how your body works is so critical

453

because it's like, is it, are you

like doomed forever to horrible book

454

preamps, which is what I thought.

455

I was literally like, oh, it's

just genetic and I just like

456

have to suffer this forever.

457

But I also was eating garbage

and not eating enough and eating

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a lot of the wrong foods and not

sleeping and never going outside.

459

Like so many factors that I was choosing

that I just didn't know were causing that.

460

So I think in order to like truly, truly

embrace the Lord's creation, he made us

461

man and woman and like what does it mean

to be a woman and what does it mean to

462

be a woman of faith and to like delight.

463

I feel like he like was

probably like, oh man.

464

I like can't wait for them

to figure out this far.

465

And like, just the way that like, like

a good man will delight in the woman in

466

front of him and, and be like, oh my gosh.

467

Like, he kinda like the way that men

point out little things about women

468

that you're like, oh, like I never.

469

I never would've noticed that.

470

Or like with your husband,

he'll say things and you're

471

like, ah, you think that's cute?

472

Like, I never would've seen it.

473

'cause it's like we're just so used to it.

474

It kinda becomes old news.

475

But I think having like that all

in wonder again to repair the

476

relationship with our own bodies and

with our Lord is really critical.

477

And also in a world, let's be real.

478

Like in a world that's telling you

that like there's no such thing as

479

man and woman and that like you can

do whatever you want and none of it

480

matters and that this doesn't have any

meaning, but it's like, actually we need

481

to put all the meaning back into it.

482

And part of that is

like, what is the design?

483

Like what is the design that the

creation sings about The creator?

484

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Yeah, I feel like.

485

So many women that are, I

just heard you say all that.

486

Probably just feel so heard and

comforted because like you said

487

before, a lot of them probably have

gone to the doctor and the only

488

answer they got was birth control.

489

And so they probably just felt

like, oh, my body, my femininity is

490

something to be suppressed because

it's clearly causing a problem and

491

there's nothing I can do about it.

492

And so you sharing all this is opening.

493

door to the possibility of like,

maybe do I just not understand how

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it works and I'm not supporting it.

495

Maybe there is a better way.

496

Maybe I don't have to believe it's bad.

497

Maybe I don't have to suppress

it and try and get rid of it.

498

'cause that has all of the

effects that come with it as well

499

besides just removing your cramps.

500

Um, so.

501

Let, let's get into the women's cycle.

502

Talk to me about women's cycles.

503

Why is it so important for women

to understand their cycles and

504

how does this tie into their

overall picture of their health?

505

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Okay, stunning.

506

One of my like 2025 resolutions was to go

at the birth control industry's throat.

507

So let's talk about birth

control for a second.

508

The way the hormonal birth control

works is that it turns off your cycle

509

exactly what you were saying, like

let's get rid of the problem altogether.

510

We are literally throwing the baby out

with the bath water, and I will say.

511

I had so many conversations with

girls at Seek that they were like,

512

I'm on birth control and I don't

want to be, or I'm on birth control.

513

And I'm like so embarrassed of it,

or I feel like I'm St thinning.

514

And I was like, wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait.

515

Like that's not what's happening here.

516

Like totally separate thing to be

using birth control as a contraceptive

517

versus like you are totally single

and that's what your dermatologist

518

gave you to clear up your skin.

519

Very different scenario.

520

So I feel like Catholic women are

walking around with a lot of, of, of

521

heavy burden of being like, this is

my only option, but I know in my heart

522

only option, I have to air quotes here.

523

That is not your only option.

524

Um, but they're being told that

this is the only option, but

525

at the same time, they're like.

526

It makes me feel awful.

527

I feel like a shell of myself.

528

I feel miserable.

529

Um, and yeah, maybe my

skin is getting clear.

530

My cramps haven't been as bad, but

like this is not a long-term solution

531

because I wanna be a mom one day.

532

Like it just, nothing about it.

533

Makes sense.

534

So let's go back.

535

It's kind of like starting with

why have you read the book?

536

Start With Why.

537

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: No.

538

What is it about?

539

I haven't

540

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's a really good business book.

541

Um, but it's all about like, you have

to start with like the why in the

542

beginning and then we work backwards.

543

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm.

544

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

so.

545

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I remember hearing like Ted talk

546

about that growing up in school,

so I might've been that guy.

547

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's him, Simon Sin.

548

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes, yes.

549

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's really good and the phenomenal.

550

But he tells this story of like, these

American, um, like car executives

551

going to a Japanese car factory and

the, at the factory, they're like

552

watching how they go through like

the final steps of control and stuff.

553

And so he sees that like one

step that they do at all of their

554

American factories, they're not

doing at this Japanese factory

555

after they put the doors on the car.

556

And so he like turns to one of

the workers and he's like, Hey.

557

When do you guys like

check that the doors fit?

558

Like at our factory, at the very end when

we put on the doors, we hammer to make

559

sure that they fit correctly and the, the

Japanese worker is like, we make sure that

560

the doors fit when we design it like that.

561

We're not, we're not like

figuring that out at the end.

562

We started with that in the first place.

563

Right?

564

That's the whole concept of.

565

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

hammering it, forcing it to go in,

566

like you just make it correctly.

567

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

make it correctly.

568

He's like, did you guys not

figure that out beforehand?

569

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: That's so

570

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I feel like that is such a good example

571

of like the concept of like, instead of

always working on like, well, what's the

572

supplement that's gonna fix my periods?

573

Or should I be doing carnivore?

574

Should I be fasting?

575

Should I be vegan?

576

Whatever it may be.

577

And constantly trying to fix your problem.

578

Your body isn't a problem to be fixed.

579

It's not you.

580

You are a per, first of all, you are a

person to be loved and to be understood.

581

So like, let's understand

how your body works first.

582

And like I shared in the beginning,

like my turning point was finally

583

having data about my body that had

nothing to do with how I looked.

584

That was what was like all I had ever

known was to tear my body apart by like

585

what I saw and that it wasn't enough,

or that things were too big or not

586

small enough or whatever it may be.

587

Lumps and bumps.

588

Like that's all my body was

like for, to like, um, kind of

589

just tear apart in that way.

590

But it was like when I finally

started learning how to check my

591

cycle, I was like, oh, there's

like a lot more going on here.

592

And I always call it, I call it like this,

um, the feminine formula to like a healthy

593

feminine body is safety and abundance.

594

Those two keys are critical.

595

So like in order for you to have a

healthy cycle, that's one example.

596

Or to have a healthy metabolism or a

healthy fertility, whatever it may be,

597

your body needs to know that it's safe.

598

The feminine body does not do

well in emergencies, and it needs

599

to know that there's abundance.

600

There's so many nutrients

involved with you like ovulating.

601

There's so many nutrients

involved with you having energy

602

throughout the day, right?

603

There's, um, there's so much sleep that

you need that maybe like your brother,

604

your dad or your boyfriend don't need.

605

It's just different.

606

And so, uh, when we can kind of

like, hone in and say, well, let's

607

have a data point of like what

is happening inside of your body.

608

Now we have this window into

your whole health, and that's

609

really what your cycle can be.

610

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

That is incredible.

611

Like, and, and I feel like I can attest

to that kind of enlightenment moment too,

612

when you start learning about your cycle.

613

Because I mean, Yeah, like I started

charting once I got engaged, and there's

614

just so much information that can tell us

615

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

616

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

other parts of our hormones and

617

our over overall, overall health.

618

And I had heard it called, um, how

many vital signs are there normally?

619

Five.

620

Okay.

621

Yeah.

622

Yeah.

623

So I, I heard this was the fifth.

624

Yeah, that's what I had heard it

called, like, this is like your extra

625

vital sign that like this will tell you

something about like how you're doing.

626

Um, so it tells you a lot more

besides just like, oh, when am

627

I supposed to get my period?

628

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

And that's like the whole thing.

629

Which did you also think that

you, like, I don't know why I like

630

literally walked around thinking that

I, I wasn't supposed to learn how to

631

check my cycle until I got engaged.

632

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I had never even heard about it.

633

So like, I like growing up, like I didn't

know, and I had friends who even like

634

kept track of like when their period came.

635

I never did that.

636

I was just like, one day it shows up

and you're like, okay, here we go again.

637

And it, that wasn't too like, was

engaged and started charting that.

638

I was like, okay, like now I

know when everything happens.

639

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah, I lit.

640

I don't even, I probably didn't

know what ovulation even was until

641

I was in my like mid twenties.

642

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I don't think I did either.

643

I don't think I did either.

644

And like when my practitioner

was like, so like, when do you

645

notice like this kind of mucus?

646

And I was like, I, I, I, what?

647

I don't know.

648

I, I don't know.

649

I don't look at that like

whatcha talking about.

650

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Literally.

651

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

It teaches you so much.

652

It teaches you so, so much.

653

Um, okay.

654

Okay.

655

We gotta keep going 'cause

we could talk for forever.

656

Next question I have for you.

657

It is important.

658

What are some of the biggest lies you

feel like women have been told about their

659

bodies or about food or about their cycle?

660

And how do you help women rewrite

those narratives in what you do?

661

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Mm.

662

The rewriting comes from understanding

how God made you and that like the

663

frustration, the walls have to come down.

664

Your body's not at war with you,

like your body's on the same team.

665

All your body ever wants to do

is like fend for your survival.

666

Um, so starting with that,

I think is most important.

667

But then the lies that we see

is that my body is just broken.

668

Whatever X symptom, it's genetic

and I'm doomed to this for life.

669

Um, birth control is my only option.

670

Food is either something that I control

or something that I indulge in, or it's

671

an enemy rather than it being a gift

from God and a sign of God's love for us.

672

Um, my weight is my worth, my, um, my

ability to have children, or my fear

673

that my PCOS is gonna keep me from

being a mom makes me less of a woman.

674

And I'm afraid that people won't want

me if they find out that I have PCOS

675

literal conversations that I have had.

676

And it gives me chills because it

is one of the most demonic things

677

in the world, and I wish I could

just like snuggle every single girl

678

that feels like that and be like.

679

You are good and like you are lovable,

even with a little diagnosis on there.

680

You know what I'm saying?

681

Like, and I don't want to

minimize PCOS is it's, it's rough.

682

Like there's a lot of symptoms that

are involved there, but like the, the

683

way that the devil will warp anything

about your body into it being like,

684

well, you're not gonna be lovable

or you're not gonna be wanted, or

685

like, you're gonna live a life alone.

686

I've seen it.

687

It's very, very dark.

688

Um.

689

Or that you can't trust anybody and

that you have to DIY this, and you

690

have to figure it all out by yourself.

691

You have to become obsessed

with being your own.

692

Uh, doctor, because the people that

failed you in the past were signs

693

that everyone is going to fail you.

694

And now there's no one that

you can trust out there.

695

That's another big, big lie I see

with Catholic women in particular.

696

Um, and that's where,

listen, I was a DIY girly.

697

I would spend like eight hours a

day on Instagram being like, how

698

do I put things together and like,

what am I supposed to be doing?

699

Instead of just being like, how

would I find someone to help me?

700

But I genuinely didn't know.

701

I didn't know what was possible and I.

702

I think I was just really wounded from

like negative experiences, but I think

703

those are some of the biggest lies

that when we can be freed from them.

704

That's where like healing begins

and that's when, when we talk about

705

freedom, it means not just like,

oh, I have the freedom from like sin

706

and I go to confession regularly.

707

Yes, I sure hope so, but

like you are not free.

708

If the back of your head is 24 7,

like screaming these lies about

709

you and making your own life

miserable, like that is not freedom.

710

And the Lord, I do really believe that he

wants that for each and every one of us.

711

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Yeah, I love that.

712

And it just ties it back

into the integration of body,

713

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Mm.

714

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

soul and how as we're healing, one,

715

we'll find healing in the other,

716

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

717

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

is so important.

718

So the work that you do is obviously

in nutrition, which involves food.

719

And I know that sometimes this can

be a sensitive topic for people.

720

People have a history with food,

especially women, and can often

721

be overwhelmed by, you know.

722

Diet culture and like what food is

good to eat, what food is notate, and

723

now there's like you said, so much

information I feel like online and on

724

Instagram, that you can go on there and

just be instantly overwhelmed by like

725

everything that you see about nutrition.

726

So to you, you talked

about freedom, right?

727

So what does food freedom mean to you and

how can we all start to experience that?

728

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It's like, okay, if you have

729

seen food Freedom online,

this is what I'll tell you.

730

I do not believe that it is.

731

I had a conversation with someone earlier

this year where she was like, I feel like

732

I either go from like super restrictive.

733

Oma, intermittent fasting.

734

I can only eat.

735

I think she was, I don't know if she was

doing carnivore or if she was like just

736

doing a really restrictive diet or I

swing to like full intuitive eating where

737

I shouldn't have any kind of rules and I

should just eat what I feel like eating.

738

Neither of those camps are freedom.

739

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

740

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617: I.

741

Okay.

742

If we have developed something that is

so rigid that we cannot live a normal

743

life, participate in the community

that the Lord has given us, or, um, it

744

is our only obsession and we are more

obsessed with what we're eating and

745

if we're gonna be able to eat, then

with like the people in front of us.

746

That is not freedom.

747

And then I also don't think

it's freedom to only ever eat

748

what you feel like eating.

749

And like, that's where I think

intuitive eating could be taken too

750

far, because it's like sometimes

you don't know what you ought to be

751

eating to feel strong and healthy,

752

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

753

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

There's like the, the idea that

754

like there can be no rules ever

when it's like, yeah, no, maybe

755

not rules, but certainly structure

756

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

757

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

in terms of like freedom, I think of

758

like if we're gonna go back to the

garden and if you're gonna be this tiny

759

little sweet rose that is supposed to

bloom and blossom and grow a trellis

760

is what gives enough structure that you

can like climb upwards and be healthy

761

and be strong and bloom even more.

762

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

763

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

that, that is how I want you to see proper

764

nutrition is it is simply a trellis.

765

It is a tool.

766

It is, it is, um, like bumpers that help

keep you on the right path so that you

767

can have energy all day, poop every day,

have easy periods, like the things that

768

you want to have a normal quality of

life or a phenomenal quality of life.

769

We do need a certain amount of structure.

770

It's also kinda like the JP two thing

where he talks about like having

771

the freedom to do what we ought.

772

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

773

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Um, that's something I think about

774

a lot with like muck bangers has

gotten like really popular on like

775

Instagram and TikTok of just like, you

have no idea what I'm talking about.

776

Like, um, videos of people

just eating a lot of food.

777

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Oh, who my brother, I think

778

was telling you about this.

779

He's 16 and he's mentioned

something like that, and I was like,

780

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

It.

781

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: that?

782

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Kind of gross.

783

Um, have him send you a couple, but

it's like a very common thing now.

784

Like there's this one girl that

will go and order like, I don't

785

know, five boxes from Wingstop

and then like records eating it.

786

I don't think she's actually eating all

of it, but there's this like very strange

787

culture around food right now where

it's like food is either only ever for

788

pleasure or we need to be full carnivore

and like cutting out all these things.

789

What I think is like particularly freeing

is like going back to scripture and being

790

like, how does scripture talk about food?

791

That was like a, a big deal for me that

I was like, 'cause I was car, I was

792

vegetarian and then I was carnivore.

793

And so I was like, I've done

all the, all the loony baloney

794

things that I could be doing.

795

Um, because I was just kind of desperate.

796

But going back and being like, okay, well.

797

The Lord like promised the Israelites

the land of milk and honey.

798

So like, clearly that can't just be like

the land of like inflammation and poison.

799

So like I, I, the way that I'm viewing

food, like it doesn't always have

800

to be so black and white and rigid,

but there is like so much goodness

801

and like the food that he gives us.

802

But yeah, the reason that, why

did I bring up the book bangers?

803

I think just because of the,

um, having enough structure

804

to be like, oh, the freedom.

805

Do we ought, like, just because I can.

806

Go buy 16 boxes of canes and that

might feel good for a moment.

807

That doesn't mean that

that's what's right.

808

So I think marrying too of having

like an enjoyable like relationship

809

with food and like what do I

like, what do I want to eat with?

810

Also being informed of

like what is good for me.

811

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yeah.

812

Yeah, totally.

813

And I mean, too much of a good

thing can sometimes even be bad.

814

And so

815

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Hundred percent.

816

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

is important and

817

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

818

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

actually helps us achieve freedom.

819

It's not restrictive.

820

Um, but our current culture

doesn't present it that way.

821

Our current culture presents, you know,

structure as something that's holding you

822

back and tying you down and, you know,

not letting you reach that full potential.

823

So.

824

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah.

825

Yeah.

826

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

that, that view.

827

Um, I know that you emphasize

a foundation's first approach.

828

Can you share what are those foundational

habits that you are passionate about?

829

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes.

830

Okay.

831

If we're thinking about this temple of

the Holy Spirit building up this strong

832

body, um, we cannot build anything

unless we have a strong foundation first.

833

And this is also what helps like.

834

Dissipate the overwhelm of,

oh my gosh, who do I believe?

835

Like every single person is

telling me something different.

836

There's 10,000 different diets

and 10,000 different methods.

837

Like how do I know what is true?

838

That's one of the most common

questions that I get, and this is

839

where like the foundations are, these

are the things that are essential

840

for the human body to function.

841

Period.

842

Like yes, there is nuance and you're

an individual and there's gonna

843

be uniqueness that you need in

terms of your like diet and habits.

844

But having the foundations locked in

first means that you have something

845

firm to stand on and to build off of.

846

So when I say foundations, this is also

what, like we do a little bit differently.

847

I'm a nutritional therapy practitioner,

so NTPs, like were specifically

848

trained in the foundations.

849

Um, and that being like

the method to freedom.

850

So that would be things like

your blood sugar regulation.

851

That is like a non-negotiable and

that's something I have like big beef

852

with like whole 30 and stuff like

that because it just teaches you what

853

not to eat instead of how to eat.

854

And so people are like really good

at following the list of like the

855

dos and do nots, but it's like, what?

856

What are you eating?

857

Like, and like do you know how

to balance your blood sugar?

858

Because that like will take a lot

of inflammation off your body.

859

Um.

860

So that's one.

861

Circadian rhythm is another

critical foundation.

862

Mineral balancing is huge.

863

Your hydration is huge.

864

All of those kinds of things that it's

like these are true across the board.

865

And then you can spring off

into like, okay, well what,

866

what are like the shingles?

867

Or like what are, what is the outside

decoration of the house, which can

868

be a little bit more unique to you?

869

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: What

if somebody had to pick one of those

870

to start with, if they're like, okay,

I can't do all of them at once, like

871

which one would you say is like, this is

the most important one, or this is the

872

one that I think you should start with.

873

Which foundation?

874

I.

875

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Today, I'm gonna say blood sugar.

876

I usually say circadian rhythm, circadian.

877

I say no, I'm gonna say blood

sugar today, because um, it

878

is, if you can lock in on that.

879

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

big right now because in my doctor's

880

appointment, literally this week,

she was like honing in on blood sugar

881

and she recommended this blood sugar

monitor thing to like start tracking.

882

Yes, yes.

883

Oh my gosh.

884

I haven't put it on yet.

885

I'm like scared.

886

I literally picked it up yesterday and I'm

like, I don't want it to poke me, but she

887

was like, no, it will give you so much.

888

She was raving about it.

889

She's like, it's gonna give

you so much information.

890

She's like, I do it.

891

Every three months, she's like, we're

gonna hone in on your blood sugar.

892

And I'm like, what is going on?

893

And so this is like truly

providential that you're like,

894

today I'm gonna pick blood sugar.

895

And I'm like, of course.

896

Of course she's gonna pick

blood sugar because I'm hearing

897

about blood sugar all week.

898

So

899

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

The Lord's like, confirm it.

900

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

Literally.

901

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Tell her she's on the right path.

902

Okay.

903

Literally, I have mine on right now.

904

Are you integrating it with your Aura app?

905

Do you have an Ora ring?

906

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

I don't have an aura ring, but she

907

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Okay.

908

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

sync up to like

909

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Your phone,

910

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: app.

911

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

it's so fun.

912

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

like, it'll sync to your phone.

913

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Oh my gosh, you're gonna love it.

914

But I just, I've had mine on for a

week and a half because I'm testing it

915

for myself because of my blood work.

916

And then I'm also testing

it for some clients.

917

But the reason I say that is

because, which you do not need a CGM.

918

Mari's doing it because she

has a doctor that's gonna watch

919

over her and take care of her.

920

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Yes.

921

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I'm doing it 'cause this is my job.

922

My clients will only do it

if we are watching over them.

923

I just wanna say that instead of you

like going and DIYing one more thing.

924

Please don't.

925

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

yeah, yeah.

926

I think you have to get it prescribed.

927

I don't think you can

just pick it up anyways.

928

Oh, you can?

929

Okay.

930

Well watch out guys, then.

931

Don't go do this until someone

tells you you need to do this.

932

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yeah, because you know why?

933

Because 'cause I, I literally was telling

my friend that I had it on and she was

934

like, oh, I think I need to do that next.

935

And I was like, no, do not do

that because you already don't do

936

the things that I tell you to do.

937

And I was like, it's just gonna be

more data that's gonna overwhelm

938

you because if you don't know how

to use data, data's pointless.

939

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: yep.

940

I,

941

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

if you like, can see the data and then

942

you can refine based off of it and you

go, oh, like this works really well.

943

This doesn't, whatever.

944

Like last night I was on my phone,

which is one of my rules, but

945

I was, I had to check something

946

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm-hmm.

947

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

then I checked my monitor really quick

948

before bed and it was spiking, which

is literally what I teach my clients.

949

But it was the first time I got to catch

it on the monitor and be like, I told

950

you, blue light raises your blood sugar.

951

Like get off of your phone at night.

952

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: What?

953

I didn't know

954

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes,

955

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: That

956

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

yes, yes.

957

Um, because of the stress

signal and the cortisol.

958

The same thing with like, um, I've

noticed on my thing, every time I get

959

on the freeway, I spike, I get rest.

960

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617:

driver driving it spikes my cortisol.

961

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

I'm gonna be like, babe, you

962

have to drive me everywhere.

963

I'm so sorry.

964

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Wow.

965

The more

966

florencia-moynihan_1_05-29-2025_133617:

Yes.

967

Yeah.

968

So the reason I'm gonna say blood

sugar is because now you're focused on.

969

Um, eating enough, eating enough protein,

you're focusing on eating regularly.

970

You're focused on having meals that

are hearty and satiating protein is

971

essential to your hormone health, to your

energy, to you going to the bathroom.

972

And then longer term to like

avoiding things like Alzheimer's and

973

dementia, like having enough muscle

on your body is really critical.

974

So I would say if you had to

make like one shift, it would be.

975

Double the lean protein on your

plate and like start getting serious

976

about having structure in your life.

977

Eating regular meals at regular times,

like stop making your body wonder

978

if and when you're gonna feed it.

979

But instead, if we're like focusing on

blood sugar regulation, then your body

980

goes, yeah, every single morning we have

breakfast and a few hours later we have

981

lunch, and a few hours later we have

dinner, and then we have a nice break.

982

This is for the intermittent fasted

girlies or the people that are like.

983

My, one of my clients today was

like, my roommate just read a book on

984

intermittent fasting and I was like,

tell her to like, stop eating earlier

985

instead of like skipping breakfast.

986

Um, you like really wanna do if

f but yeah, I would say starting

987

with the blood sugar, because now

it's not just about like, what are

988

all the things I can't be eating?

989

It's about creating,

uh, rhythm and routine.

990

mari-wagner_1_05-29-2025_143617: Mm.

991

I love that.

992

And honestly, it makes a lot of common

sense, especially everything what you

993

were saying about like, your body wants

to know it's gonna get three meals a

994

day and that it's gonna be like in a

rhythmic pattern like at a normal hour.

995

I don't know what it is about.

996

Women and we struggle to

feed ourselves sometimes.

997

I like have a friend who's a content

creator and I saw her post on her

998

story, like my husband left me a note

on this little like lunch he made me

999

and and said, please eat lunch LOL.

00:44:06,269 --> 00:44:08,399

Why is that such a relatable reminder?

00:44:08,399 --> 00:44:11,519

And it's like, especially high achieving

women who are busy or who have a

00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,889

lot going on, it's like you're just

go, go, go in your day and then all

00:44:13,889 --> 00:44:16,469

of a sudden it's three o'clock and

you're like, oh, that's why I feel

00:44:16,469 --> 00:44:17,969

this way because I didn't eat lunch.

00:44:18,884 --> 00:44:19,174

Yeah.

00:44:19,369 --> 00:44:21,799

And then, but then it's like, oh, ha ha.

00:44:22,579 --> 00:44:25,849

But then it's like, add that up 30 times.

00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:30,379

Times three, and now you've given your

body a hundred signals over the past

00:44:30,379 --> 00:44:33,829

three months that like things aren't

safe or that we don't have enough.

00:44:34,279 --> 00:44:37,639

And then we wonder why our periods

are like excruciating, or we wonder

00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,309

why it's MIA, or we wonder why

like our skin is freaking out.

00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:41,239

Like whatever it may be.

00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,719

It's like we forget to add up

that It's like the Oh ha ha.

00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,769

Like I keep forgetting.

00:44:45,889 --> 00:44:48,139

Which also I think that's

a great reminder of like.

00:44:48,369 --> 00:44:51,249

The Lord, if he wanted you to

photosynthesize, he would've made you that

00:44:51,249 --> 00:44:57,549

way, but like for whatever reason, he made

you to have these internal like needs,

00:44:57,579 --> 00:45:01,959

like your sleep, your hydration, your

hunger, these are internal needs to remind

00:45:01,959 --> 00:45:03,459

you that you are not self-sufficient.

00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:07,699

And that you are not just like a

random object that landed on this earth

00:45:07,729 --> 00:45:11,479

because like little amoeba multiplied

trillion years ago, like that is the

00:45:11,479 --> 00:45:13,279

most ridiculous lie I've ever heard.

00:45:13,369 --> 00:45:16,789

And I think sometimes women forget

to live like they're human and like

00:45:16,789 --> 00:45:19,038

they have a father that like once.

00:45:19,394 --> 00:45:20,984

Them to rely on him.

00:45:21,314 --> 00:45:24,584

And like that's how you can see

mealtime of it being like, oh, this

00:45:24,584 --> 00:45:28,724

is a reminder that I'm like, not, not

a ghost and I'm not a rock and I'm

00:45:28,724 --> 00:45:32,144

not like Holy Spirit Junior, but like

I have to stop and I have to eat.

00:45:32,534 --> 00:45:35,654

And it's like this little like

moment of kind of resignation of

00:45:35,654 --> 00:45:38,384

like, okay, Lord, like whatever's

going on, you can take care of it.

00:45:38,384 --> 00:45:39,554

But this is essential right now.

00:45:40,489 --> 00:45:43,609

Yeah, and he made good whole foods

00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:48,139

and animal products so that we could

feed ourselves well, because it's more

00:45:48,224 --> 00:45:48,314

And.

00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:49,369

just stopping and eating.

00:45:49,369 --> 00:45:53,944

But it's like if we're eating packaged

stuff, refined sugars, processed foods,

00:45:54,244 --> 00:45:54,454

Yeah,

00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:56,599

like that's not gonna do any good

00:45:57,094 --> 00:45:57,874

yeah, yeah.

00:45:57,994 --> 00:46:00,424

Like he didn't make you

to function off of like

00:46:00,829 --> 00:46:01,159

00:46:01,714 --> 00:46:03,694

and a a Celsius and a

00:46:03,694 --> 00:46:05,104

Snickers bar like that.

00:46:05,464 --> 00:46:06,694

That ain't in the Bible.

00:46:06,724 --> 00:46:07,384

You know what I'm saying?

00:46:09,229 --> 00:46:11,749

ain't in the Bible, that's for sure.

00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:16,639

so then what advice would you give to

the women who's listening to this and

00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:19,219

is like, I relate a little bit too hard?

00:46:19,699 --> 00:46:22,609

You've definitely called me out

in the best way, but I feel I.

00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:25,024

Stuck, maybe, you know, she's exhausted.

00:46:25,024 --> 00:46:26,674

She's confused about her symptoms.

00:46:26,974 --> 00:46:27,904

She doesn't know where to begin.

00:46:27,904 --> 00:46:30,034

She's definitely asked that

question, who do I trust?

00:46:30,034 --> 00:46:31,024

What do I do?

00:46:31,024 --> 00:46:31,984

Where do I start?

00:46:32,314 --> 00:46:33,244

What advice would you give her?

00:46:34,994 --> 00:46:38,029

My honest answer is grab your journal

00:46:38,539 --> 00:46:42,019

and go to the chapel today and.

00:46:42,529 --> 00:46:43,519

Just write out.

00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:46,399

And if you're like, oh,

Flo, I'm not a journaler.

00:46:46,729 --> 00:46:50,809

Make yourself a journaler just for

this one hour, because it's a really

00:46:50,809 --> 00:46:54,739

great way to slow down everything

that's in your brain and you

00:46:54,739 --> 00:46:57,589

probably have so many thoughts and

it pulls out one dominant thought.

00:46:58,099 --> 00:46:59,359

What is like the one thread?

00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,339

And if you're like, well, I

don't even know what I would say.

00:47:01,369 --> 00:47:02,089

I'm gonna give you a prompt.

00:47:02,089 --> 00:47:02,659

It's gonna be okay.

00:47:02,659 --> 00:47:05,419

And you just like make your pen

move and see what comes out.

00:47:05,479 --> 00:47:09,829

But I would sincerely, in front of the

Lord sit there and ask yourself, do

00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:11,359

I truly believe that I am made good?

00:47:13,264 --> 00:47:15,784

And like what comes up

when I see that phrase?

00:47:16,174 --> 00:47:17,704

Where is there resistance?

00:47:17,704 --> 00:47:19,084

Where is there frustration?

00:47:19,384 --> 00:47:21,454

Where is there um, fear?

00:47:21,904 --> 00:47:23,164

Where is there hope?

00:47:23,224 --> 00:47:25,054

Like whatever it may be that comes up.

00:47:25,354 --> 00:47:28,954

And then the second thing is, do I

believe that God wants me to be well?

00:47:30,169 --> 00:47:31,699

I think that's like a missing piece.

00:47:31,699 --> 00:47:37,789

A lot of the times that if you are

pretty deep into either your disordered

00:47:37,789 --> 00:47:42,589

eating or like your period symptoms

or your acne, whatever it may be, that

00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:47,030

sometimes I think we get lost in the lie

that this is just a cross that I have

00:47:47,035 --> 00:47:51,169

to carry and it would be unholy of me.

00:47:52,354 --> 00:47:56,644

To like carrying it well must mean that

I just have to shut up and deal with it.

00:47:57,274 --> 00:48:02,644

Whereas like the truth is like God

wants you to be well and like God wants

00:48:02,644 --> 00:48:05,044

your healing, he wants your physical

healing and your spiritual healing,

00:48:05,044 --> 00:48:08,014

and it's not always guaranteed that

every single thing is gonna be healed.

00:48:08,014 --> 00:48:09,274

Especially not on this side of heaven.

00:48:09,274 --> 00:48:13,414

Like we're gonna have physical

ailments, but you're allowed to try.

00:48:14,104 --> 00:48:16,984

Like, you're totally allowed to

care and you're totally allowed

00:48:16,984 --> 00:48:19,384

to be like, I, I do need help.

00:48:19,444 --> 00:48:21,934

And like, I don't want to live

like this and I want to know what

00:48:21,934 --> 00:48:23,944

it's like to like have a good life.

00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,634

Like, and I think, um, I just

want you to ask like, do you think

00:48:27,634 --> 00:48:29,224

that God cares about your body?

00:48:29,974 --> 00:48:32,494

Because that could be like a good

starting point to shift things

00:48:32,794 --> 00:48:34,504

and to start living differently.

00:48:34,744 --> 00:48:38,344

And then if you're like,

okay, done and done.

00:48:38,494 --> 00:48:41,614

Now give me a practical,

I'd say go ahead and start.

00:48:42,049 --> 00:48:45,019

Um, get your phone out of your room.

00:48:45,334 --> 00:48:47,824

The first and last hour of

your day, those belong to God.

00:48:48,274 --> 00:48:51,304

The first and last hour of day should

be like two of the most sacred hours

00:48:51,304 --> 00:48:56,074

of your entire life because he woke you

up again and that wasn't guaranteed.

00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:57,874

And now you're gonna

sleep and you don't know.

00:48:57,994 --> 00:48:59,104

You don't know what's

about to happen there.

00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:02,464

And so like that is, that is the

time to spend time with our Lord.

00:49:02,854 --> 00:49:05,314

And it's being robbed

and it's been given over.

00:49:05,314 --> 00:49:08,524

Like TikTok is God that you need to be

talking to in the morning and at night.

00:49:08,944 --> 00:49:10,714

Um, so I'd say get your

phone out of your room.

00:49:11,214 --> 00:49:14,124

Delay it for the first and

last hour of the morning and

00:49:14,124 --> 00:49:15,174

your energy's gonna be better.

00:49:15,684 --> 00:49:17,364

Your thyroid is gonna be functioning well.

00:49:17,364 --> 00:49:19,014

Your gut is gonna feel calmer.

00:49:19,254 --> 00:49:21,204

Your skin will be beautiful.

00:49:21,204 --> 00:49:26,034

You're gonna feel like you enjoy life

again, and that's gonna be worth it.

00:49:26,884 --> 00:49:27,364

00:49:27,424 --> 00:49:30,184

Oh, I'm taking that

advice straight to heart.

00:49:30,184 --> 00:49:30,874

Next week?

00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:31,839

Tomorrow.

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Tomorrow.

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Starting tomorrow.

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Not next week.

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I'm such a Monday girl.

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I'm such a like, I will start on Monday.

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'cause that's a fresh new start.

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No, we're gonna start tomorrow on Friday.

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Because that makes total

sense for my type A brain.

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That's fine.

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no, that was such, such good advice.

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You have so much wisdom to share

and I love truly, I just want to

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tell you like the Lord has given

you a special grace to share this

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information because the way you're

speaking there is so much gentleness

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and love in it, as well as just like.

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The protective mama bear spirit of

like, and I need to tell you the truth.

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Like, and someone's gotta tell you what's

right, what's wrong, what's good for you,

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what's not, because I care about you.

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You know?

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So it's both the gentleness

and, um, kind of that firm hand

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that we needed to hear today.

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So thank you for

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Thank you.

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and sharing that.

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Do you have time for a few fun,

relatable, rapid fire questions?

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go.

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What you got?

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I wanna know, what is your one

non-negotiable part of your daily routine?

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Morning walk.

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Ooh, I love that.

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I wanna incorporate that this summer.

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What time of day do you do that?

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Like, do you like wake up

and just go on your walk?

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Yeah.

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I also like, like biggest

health hack of all time.

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Get yourself a dog.

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You have a golden retriever, right?

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I do.

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That's why I wanna go, because his vet

was like, he needs to shave a few pounds.

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He's a little junky.

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And I was like, yeah, that's on me.

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So fast.

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walk more.

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Yeah, mine is sleeping

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right here at my feet.

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if you want the health hack of all health

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hacks, get yourself a golden retriever.

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Um, I'm gonna say golden retriever

specifically 'cause I'm a golden retriever

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supremacist and they're so sweet and

they'll go with you anywhere, anytime.

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Whereas my sister's

dogs will be like Uhuh.

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Um.

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But yeah, morning walk.

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Um, and especially having a

dog is kind of a game changer.

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'cause then it's like, oh, I'm

like hurting him if he doesn't go

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out for a thing in the morning.

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Um, and instead of just let, if you

have a yard, instead of just letting

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them out into the yard, go walk them.

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Take them.

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And that's your walk and his walk.

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Um, but that's like a

non-negotiable every single day.

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Mm-hmm.

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