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AVOID This Writing TRAP Like the Plague
Episode 6215th March 2023 • Writing Momentum • Christopher and Gena Maselli
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In this episode of the Writing Momentum podcast, Chris and Gena talk about three traps writers often fall into when writing--and how to avoid them like the plague. Make your good writing GREAT when you put these tips into practice.

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Gena:

Hi, and welcome to the Writing Momentum Podcast.

Gena:

I'm Gena Maselli, and this is my husband, Christopher Maselli.

Christopher:

Hey.

Gena:

And we are here to talk about avoid this writing trap like the plague.

Gena:

And we are talking today, Chris, about this writing trap that sneaks in,

Gena:

in just about any kind of writing.

Christopher:

Yeah.

Christopher:

This is a writing trap that you will see often, so often that you

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might say, wow, that seems like a cliche, and that's because it is.

Christopher:

That's exactly what we're gonna talk about here.

Christopher:

This writing trap is cliches, but cliches maybe aren't

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entirely what you think they are.

Christopher:

How would you define a cliche Gena?

Gena:

I would define a cliche as anything that is written.

Gena:

That and we're talking about writing here, so that's, I'm gonna limit it to that.

Gena:

But anything that is lit written that has been used so much.

Gena:

That it has lost its punch and have even caused people to roll their eyes.

Christopher:

That's a good way to look at it.

Christopher:

Something that makes you roll your eyes, cuz you've seen it so many times.

Christopher:

So for instance, this makes me think of when I was a judge with Writer's

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Digest for a while, and one of the things I was a judge for children's

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picture books and I received literally hundreds of children's picture books

Christopher:

that people had sent in for the contest.

Christopher:

And then I had to judge them, right, and then say, here's the ones who win.

Christopher:

Here's the ones who don't.

Christopher:

And what I was surprised with was how many common things that

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I saw among those manuscripts.

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And one of the biggest ones was the cliche.

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The cliche of Once Upon A Time.

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We grew up, many of us with books that started with the words Once Upon a Time.

Christopher:

And so when we write our children's material, we want to start like that,

Christopher:

but those words have become a cliche.

Christopher:

And by starting your book with Once Upon a Time, unless it's

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like a fractured fairytale, right?

Christopher:

That's trying to make fun of that genre, it doesn't really work anymore

Christopher:

because it's been done so much.

Christopher:

So if you're writing a children's book, you don't want to start with words like

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that because they've become a cliche.

Christopher:

And that could be said for, I think for a lot of words that you put

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individually in a book, if you're having characters talk, and in their

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dialogue they're saying things that are cliches, it's okay once in a while,

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but if you do it too often, it becomes.

Christopher:

Cliche.

Gena:

It becomes cliche and it loses its punch.

Gena:

Chris is talking about children's books, but this is in all writing.

Gena:

This can be in non-fiction as well.

Gena:

One of the ones that has become very popular right now that every time I

Gena:

hear it, I just cringe on the inside, is when a speaker or a writer tells

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me they're going to unpack something.

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I've gotten to the place where I'm like, I loved that when it first came out, but

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that's about 10 years ago and we need to come up with a new way of saying it.

Gena:

Another one would be for the non-fiction writer, the advice that

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we've been given, pull yourself up with, from your bootstraps.

Gena:

Or you've gotten out on the wrong side of the bed in the morning.

Gena:

This is our job as writers, to come up with a new way of saying

Gena:

what maybe has become a cliche.

Christopher:

Yeah, to be more creative.

Christopher:

Say it's been said like this a hundred times before, how can I say, the same

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thing, but in a new and fresh way.

Christopher:

And sometimes you'll see, the books that strike you most, the lines that

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strike you most aren't the ones that are necessarily completely original,

Christopher:

but the ones who say something that you know and agree with deep down inside,

Christopher:

but they say it in a way that you never quite thought of it that way before.

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You've never heard a phrase that way before and it sticks with you.

Gena:

That's the thing that really grabs you.

Gena:

And I think it's that unexpected, because sometimes if you're talking

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about something or you're writing a scene, or you're writing a chapter, or

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you're writing an article or a blog post.

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The thing that will really resonate with people is the unexpected.

Gena:

It's that it's taking something where they think they know where you're going,

Gena:

and then you flip it on its head, or you twist it in such a way, in some

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fresh way that makes people go, oh, I never thought of it like that before.

Christopher:

And so this happens a lot with individual words, but

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it can also happen in scenes.

Christopher:

There are scenes that we put in our books that are cliche, and

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these also show up in movies.

Christopher:

In movie scenes.

Christopher:

So what's an example of a scene that you would say, man, that is totally a cliche.

Gena:

And I will put a little bit of a disclaimer on this to say that some of

Gena:

the most popular movies or companies that produce movies live on cliches,

Gena:

and they have made a whole kind of genre on cliches, and that is okay.

Gena:

That is, that's their model, that's their genre.

Gena:

That's their, that's what they have created and that's what they're doing.

Gena:

But I automatically think of the meet cute in the movie where the girl has

Gena:

got something super heavy in her hands and she turns, and she of course,

Gena:

bumps into the billionaire because she's the overworked woman and she

Gena:

hits the billionaire and loses all her packages or whatever, and he sits

Gena:

there and helps her gather 'em all up.

Gena:

And then they have this moment where they lock eyes and they have this connection.

Gena:

I admit I watch some of those movies myself and they're fun.

Gena:

But that is a cliche.

Christopher:

It's a cliche and I think the reason it's a cliche is

Christopher:

because everyone does it the same way.

Christopher:

It's always the woman has the files or the papers.

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She always runs into the man.

Christopher:

The papers hit the floor, they bend down, and then their eyes catch

Christopher:

each other on the way up, right?

Christopher:

It's done the same way every time, and I've seen it done in books that way too.

Christopher:

So what you want to do is you may need that meet cute moment, right?

Christopher:

You may need that moment where the characters first fumble into each other,

Christopher:

but that doesn't mean you have to do it the way that everyone has done it.

Christopher:

You can find a creative way, think, how can I make my characters meet without the

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carrying the papers fall scene, right?

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How can I do something that's the same emotion, the same result, but

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comes at it in a fresh new light?

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And that I think, is our challenge as writers, is to be creative like that,

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to say I'm gonna turn this cliche on its head and make it to where the reader

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doesn't even really realize that's what just happened, even though it did or

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won't realize until after they've passed it that, oh, that's like where they,

Christopher:

you know that's the meet cute, right?

Christopher:

If you're analyzing it, but you may not realize it right away.

Gena:

Absolutely, and that's the thing I think when you're talking

Gena:

about the just individual words or lines, that kind of thing that's

Gena:

the thing that you can come back to.

Gena:

That's the thing that when you are editing, maybe you write it that with the

Gena:

cliche the first time you go through it.

Gena:

But when you come back, and this is fiction, non-fiction,

Gena:

this is article, blog, book.

Gena:

It doesn't matter.

Gena:

But you come back to it and you say, okay, that's a cliche, how can

Gena:

I say that in a new original way.

Gena:

So that's gonna happen at the editing phase.

Christopher:

Instead of once upon a time, you sit and look at

Christopher:

it and you go how about a long time ago in a galaxy far away?

Christopher:

And suddenly you're saying that's the same thing, right?

Christopher:

It's basically saying the same thing.

Christopher:

But when George Lucas wrote that for Star Wars, it took

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on a whole new, fresh feeling.

Gena:

Yes, definitely.

Gena:

Now when you're writing long form story this is the kind of thing that's gonna

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happen more on the front end, right?

Gena:

When you're really thinking it through and you're really

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planning and you're developing.

Christopher:

I think so.

Christopher:

I would like to get that scene created correctly in the plotting phase.

Christopher:

But I'm a plotter, right?

Christopher:

So I like to make sure that, okay, I'm gonna plot that out, make sure

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I've got that meet cute happening in a way that isn't traditional.

Christopher:

But that said, don't let that stop you from moving on.

Christopher:

It's totally fine if you wanna do the way it's always been done, and

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then go back in the editing phase and say, okay, this scene needs

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to be a little fresher, something more exciting needs to happen here.

Christopher:

And then you change it up and build it up.

Christopher:

And sometimes then you can tie that in to a scene later in the book

Christopher:

that will really become meaningful.

Christopher:

And then the whole thing takes on a whole new light.

Gena:

We should definitely do a podcast about tiebacks.

Gena:

Because we use them, quite a bit in, you can use them in fiction,

Gena:

you can use 'em in non-fiction, you can use them in an article.

Gena:

You can use them in a blog.

Gena:

It doesn't matter.

Christopher:

That's a teaser.

Christopher:

We'll do that one for sure.

Gena:

We'll do that one for sure.

Gena:

Tiebacks, weaving those things in.

Gena:

So yeah, we'll look at that.

Christopher:

So cliches can be words, like once upon a time .Cliches can be scenes

Christopher:

like the meet cute, but cliches can also be the entire structure of your story,

Christopher:

which can be a little scary, honestly, to think that, okay, am I writing

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something that's already been done?

Christopher:

And the truth is, almost everything has been done, but you can

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still write it in a fresh way.

Christopher:

And so one of the things that we were talking about earlier was who uses formula

Christopher:

so well, and has almost turned them into a cliche, and that's Hallmark, right?

Christopher:

They do that with Hallmark movies.

Christopher:

They have got a formula that they use and you expect certain things

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to happen in a Hallmark movie, but it works for them because that's

Christopher:

their formula and that's Hallmark.

Christopher:

But there are other competitors now who've come on the scene who

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like, Amazon Prime or other services that decide, oh, we want to create

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something that's like a Hallmark movie.

Christopher:

So they take a similar formula and they try to do the same thing, but because

Christopher:

it's not under the Hallmark brand, it doesn't come across as formulaic.

Christopher:

It comes across as cliche, it's like they're copying Hallmark.

Christopher:

And so what they need to do is they need to say, how can we change the structure

Christopher:

of this to give it a twist, give it something unique that's different, that

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separates us from that industry standard.

Gena:

They do, and they start bringing in different types of meet cutes.

Gena:

If you want to have a kind of a fun exercise for yourself, go ahead and watch

Gena:

a Hallmark movie and then watch an Amazon movie and look for the differences.

Gena:

Look for the ways that they've tried to freshen it up, or ways they've

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tried to make it more their own.

Christopher:

I really encourage you with those, not only to watch them,

Christopher:

but, and watch 'em back to back.

Christopher:

But sit down with a piece of paper and outline them as they happen,

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what happens in what order in this?

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And you'll see that there is a definite correlation between, if you pick two

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romantic movies, there's gonna be a definite correlation between those.

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If you pick two adventure movies, un that have happened over time,

Christopher:

you're gonna find correlations.

Christopher:

But then you can also see where they vary and where they diverge from the norm, and

Christopher:

that's where it just becomes fascinating.

Gena:

That's great.

Gena:

So today we are talking about helping you identify and

Gena:

avoid cliches in your writing.

Gena:

Whether that is in fiction or non-fiction, just in any form.

Gena:

Look for those things that have been.

Gena:

Look for those things that have been overdone.

Gena:

Look for those things that are no longer fresh and come up with a more creative

Gena:

way of saying that or completing that.

Christopher:

Absolutely.

Christopher:

We hope you enjoyed this episode.

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next one when we talk about what did we just say we were gonna talk about?

Gena:

We were gonna talk about, what are we gonna talk about?

Christopher:

The tiebacks

Gena:

The tiebacks.

Gena:

Talk about tiebacks.

Christopher:

I need to write it down.

Christopher:

We're gonna do tiebacks in one of our upcoming episodes here.

Christopher:

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So we thank you so much for joining us.

Christopher:

We appreciate it.

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We love you guys.

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You're awesome.

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And remember that what Gena?

Gena:

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