Dr. Stance has a lively chat with the legendary Richie Rich, diving deep into the essence of turning hustles into legacies. Right from the get-go, we’re all about the importance of resilience and authenticity, as Richie shares tales of his journey through the music industry and life’s ups and downs. With a mix of humor and heartfelt stories, we tackle everything from personal growth to the struggles of navigating fame while staying true to oneself. Richie also brings the heat with his thoughts on the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people and being an independent thinker in a world full of distractions. So, buckle up for some real talk and a few laughs as we explore what it truly means to rise and shine in this wild ride called life!

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With turning your hustle into a legacy.

In today's episode, I am a very special lady.

I had to get that right.

I like it.

Very special.

Y' all know my show is about legends, legendary movement.

I got Richie Rich in the building.

What's up, sir?

Oh, man.

Glad to be here.

Glad to be here.

I love that smile.

Yes.

Glad to be here.

This man right here, you're the epitome and definition of a legend.

Like I just said, I think you've been rapping probably before my time.

Come on.

Okay.

And so it's just, all due respect, hats taken off.

I got special surprises for you.

But I'm honored that you're here.

Even though y', all, I feel so bad.

I pushed the man out the parking lot.

Cause I didn't know it was him.

I didn't know it was him.

I pulled into a tornado trying to park up in here, man.

I was like, whoa, get out of here.

This is not for you.

This is for Richie.

And I knew you was who I was coming to see.

I seen them pants.

I said, I bet that's who I'm coming to see, too.

I could just tell.

I was like, this ain't somebody else.

You feel me?

But I ain't say nothing.

I just went back my little car.

He so did he even roll down the window and say nothing?

So in my mind, I'm like, good.

I got rid of him.

And the whole time, I'm saving the spot for him.

Yeah, I don't want no smoke.

Oh, Lord.

You know, prayer is up.

Like you said.

It has been a very intricate morning this morning for me, too.

Right.

I think I just, you know, I started my little YouTube and I've been being tested.

Okay.

You know what I mean?

And I've been trying to figure out just one, you know, not to let things mess up our energy.

Right.

Right.

Because, you know, I feel like.

I think we just many talked about it.

Just sometimes when you deal with certain things and people, it just throw you off the grid.

And I don't be wanting to deal with that.

You know, I think, like, even I got a shout out to this man.

Let me tell you something.

The man was 30 minutes early.

We wasn't ready.

We like that.

All y' all be late, and it be driving me crazy.

So what I'm doing now, they late.

You show up, we won't be here.

That's where I'm at with it.

So I appreciate and respect y' all being prompt.

I mean.

I mean, it's a pleasure to Be invited onto somebody's platform.

So I take that very seriously.

You know what I mean?

I'm just a businessman.

I'm gonna be on time.

I'm gonna be in there before.

You know, they say they needed me like, 20 minutes before, so I figured I'd be.

Because my thing is this, you know, you can't predict what's gonna happen on the freeway.

So I always kind of get out early, you know what I mean?

It could be accident or something.

But I've always been a pretty on time type of dude, though.

I love that.

Well, listen, talk to the people.

What we got going right now?

I know I've seen you on.

On little rust on your ass.

Damn near break your leg.

I seen that.

I know that.

You got that coffee spill going.

That's good.

I just got some.

Y' all shout out.

Make sure y' all get his coffee.

It's on Instagram.

I can't wait to get that.

I ain't gonna hold y'.

All.

I just bought it.

Talk to us.

What we got?

I got a lot of stuff going on right now.

Just finished up a record with DJ Fresh.

New album.

Me and Fresh dropping 10 joints off of his Legends album series that he's putting together.

So.

Super dope album.

We just finished that up.

I got a new record I'm pushing called Hunted on the Watch.

I haven't dropped it yet.

I just been teasing it on Instagram.

So I've been staying active, like you said.

I'm dealing with the coffee.

I got the coffee going, man.

Just trying to stay healthy, you know what I mean?

Trying to eat clean.

I'm really trying to educate people on how to drink coffee because I thought all coffee was coffee, you know what I mean?

Really?

Yeah.

But it's a difference.

Like, there's a difference in, you know, the origin of the beans.

You get in each place that the beans come from, they have a different flavor.

Really?

Yeah.

I'm selling a blend that's actually a blend of three different coffees.

I couldn't tell you the ratio.

Cause I'd have to kill you.

But, you know, so I'm like, I drink my coffee black.

Really?

But it's good coffee.

So I'm doing that, man.

Just juggling being a black man in California in the United States of America with all the shit that's going on.

I'm telling you.

You know what I mean?

Just really trying to figure out what's really popping, you know what I mean?

The older you get, the more, you know, and sometimes you wish you could be young and naive.

It used to be a lot more fun when I didn't know as much as I knew where I'm coming from.

That's right.

But, I mean, I'm blessed.

You know what I mean?

People like you still inviting me to do like this.

So it's a blessing.

No, it's a blessing to have you.

Like, listen, I was kind of nervous.

Reach out.

I'm like, dang, I wonder if Richie Rich gonna come when I see you.

But I was like,.

I'm going to pull up for sure.

I love it.

Well, I'm definitely excited.

Make sure you let me know when your music come out.

I need to get to all of that.

It's a bit.

But let me ask you, because, you know, like, I just spoke a little bit about what I do right now.

I'm on the hype of saving kids.

Okay.

You know what I mean?

Shout out to Fab.

I know he do the thing for the men, you know, and, you know all of that good stuff.

But I'm on a hype where right now I'm housing over 50 foster youth.

And so I'm the guru where I do transitional housing for foster you.

And so you wouldn't believe, a lot of them know you, right?

They know you.

They know you.

They know fat.

Of course.

They know E42 shorts.

They know y'.

All.

And I think that me having this platform I created for more mental health services.

So, like I was telling you, even when you came on, you know, people see the Richie Rich on the Gram, right?

Right.

And I know they have this Persona of you, like, oh, you know, that's that, you know, Right.

Who.

Who is rich, though?

Like, you know what I mean?

The real you.

My Persona on the Gram is the real me.

I'm a lot of things.

I'm a lot of things.

I'm an artist.

You know what I mean?

I'm a comedian.

I got a political crack, a joke.

I got a political side to me, you know what I'm saying?

But, I mean, mostly what you see on Instagram is me.

I'm into toys.

I like cars.

I like boats, motorcycles.

I like clean shit.

You know what I mean?

If you see something that I'm posting, nine times out of ten, it's gonna be clean.

Less is more with me.

You know what I'm talking about?

It's not more is more.

I really just learned how to load this content from dealing with LaRussell.

Like, before my page was really.

I used to just rant, you know what I Mean, and just talk my shit.

But I'm learning, like, good content is good content, you know what I mean?

So I just try to showcase the lifestyle and to let people know that, you know, you might see me in the gym on my page, you know, you might see me laying on the ground, wiping on my gold ones, you know what I mean?

I'm just a regular down to earth type of dude.

Like, I don't have a security squad, people don't wash my cars, I cut my own grass.

I love it.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I'm a Renaissance man.

I cook, clean, wash, fold, all of that.

Yeah, I mean, but my parents taught me to be like that.

I remember my dad told me, he was like, I'm going to teach you how to cook because you might not be lucky enough to get no woman, you feel me?

So I'm just a, everyday average Joe.

But people, they see me as this, you know, this just.

Bigger.

Yeah, exactly.

And I have some of that to me too, but.

You do.

But overall, I'm just a regular dude, you know, And I enjoy that regularness.

I mean, some of my classmates, like, I talk about like shorts and 40s and, and hammers are guys who went a lot further than me musically.

Cause they stayed down on music.

I was in and out of music, playing in and out of the street.

But I like the way my path went, you know what I mean?

I'm glad that, you know, I'm inside Lowe's, you know, I might be in Home Depot, you might catch me at Raley's, you catch me in Safeway.

So it's just, I got a certain freedom where I got enough people who like the work that I've created, but I'm not so big to where I can't move around.

And that works for me.

You feel me?

I'm by myself right now.

You feel me?

Absolutely.

And that's how I. Yeah, like I told you, less is more.

Like, I've been through a lot.

I've seen a lot of things.

A lot of my homeboys who died, died, you know, vicious, carrying company, you know what I mean?

And as I get older, the more secluded I get, you know what I mean?

I miss a lot of people.

But then again, it's, it's, it's less stress.

You know, I deal with my.

Yeah, yeah, I got two kids.

I, I'm, you know, my relationship with my kids is growing into a, into a point to where now I, I calling and talk to them instead of calling and chopping it with you know, my homies and I do have homeboys.

I got acquaintances, but I'm just a. I'm just a regular nigga.

You feel me?

You think you found your purpose?

I don't know, you know, but I'm.

I'm like a river.

I'm always flowing, you know?

You feel me?

I'm like, yeah, I'm always flowing.

I used to try to push myself through life, and I used to always get myself in situations.

So now I kind of just let life pull me through.

So my purpose this month might not be my purpose next month.

You know what I mean?

I just kind of go with the flow.

But what I am here to let people know is it's okay to be yourself.

It's okay to be an individual.

You know what I mean?

96% Of people are followers.

You got 4% of people that are leaders, you know?

And we need.

When we need more leaders, you know?

And the best way to lead is to be an individual, independent thinker.

You know what I'm talking about?

Absolutely.

It's okay to follow, you know, somebody else's lead, but you got your own connection with the universe.

You know, Me and you might be best friends, and I might try to give you some advice, but my advice might not be shit, because you got your own connection.

You know?

You got that hindsight when you get that feeling that says a yay or nay, that's your connection, you know?

And a lot of people don't understand that.

So they get caught up following one of the homies because something worked for the homie.

Then they go, try that, and it don't work.

That was my thing for a long time.

I had homeboys when I was young that were into all kind of shit, and I used to follow them into shit, and they could make it through, and I would always get caught up.

I admire you for even saying that.

A lot of people wouldn't even say that.

Yeah, my mom used to tell me.

She said, well, nigga, you know better.

She said, see, everybody don't know better.

She said, if that man mama didn't teach him that stealing is wrong, then he ain't got no repercussion when he steal.

You feel me?

Took me a long time to get that, you know?

But just be an individual man.

Anything that I would say to anybody that's watching this, you can be anything, you can do anything, but you gotta be it and you gotta do it, period.

I like that.

I actually love that.

And that's funny you say that.

I just did my YouTube yesterday on surrounding yourself and creating a winner circle.

Right?

You gotta be with winners, because even me starting this platform or even shoot, starting a transitional housing.

And, you know, I worked for Kaiser for 10 years, and I quit and sued them.

Right.

I worked for somebody for 25 years, and I started surrounding myself with entrepreneurs, with boss bras that got the $10,000 Chanel bag.

And I'm like, wait, will I ever.

Get one of them?

So I think when you surround yourself, if not by yourself, but with a circle, that's winning, that do lead you in the right direction and inspire you.

So I commend you for even coming on here, saying that at one point you was a follower.

I think we all was.

Oh, man.

I looked up to guys.

I looked up to guys who were actually looking up to me the whole time.

And my mom used to tell me that, you know, sometimes you look up to people.

Like, I came up in the era where the dudes who had the money was the dudes to want.

You wanted to be, like.

Correct.

You know what I mean?

It's just what it was.

You know, I aspired to be those guys, and I can't.

That don't have to be a bad thing.

Yeah, no, exactly.

You know what I mean?

Exactly.

But everybody has their own path.

And now sometimes your time is later on in the third.

You know, that's what happened for me.

My.

My time was later on in the fourth quarter.

I mean, I came up in the early 80s where it was a lot of guys getting money, having it their way.

And, you know, I wanted that.

I mean, even with music.

I mean, I got guys in the music industry.

Tupac, my late great Shakir Stewart, dmx.

Guys that I was on the label with who were moving a lot faster than I was musically, that I was like, damn, if I could get where he's at.

If I can get where he's at.

And then I look up today and dmx, good man, you know, passed away.

Pac, good man, passed away.

Shakir, good man, passed away.

Sometimes you have a different path, and you just gotta accept that.

You know what I mean?

You've got to play your position and just accept your role.

I'm just.

I'm still learning, you know what I mean?

I'm still learning.

Never too late to learn.

I don't know everything, you know, And I don't claim to know everything, but I know some things, you know, so that's what matters.

I think that long as you do what you can and make sure that, you know, you stay focused on what.

You supposed to do, right?

That's, I think, a lot of problem with the gram and social media platform.

Everybody focused on everybody else and what they doing, right?

Why you ain't where you ain't where you want to be?

Cause you watching me, right?

You know what I'm saying?

And I think that's a huge issue in our culture, to be honest.

And what you think about that?

Like, why we can't get along?

What is it about black people?

Like.

Cause the Hispanics, they coop up and it's about 15 of them in their house that the age every other culture but us.

What is that?

Well, they allegedly, they bred that into us with the slavery story.

I'm not really big on that slavery story.

Excuse me, y'.

All.

Me neither.

I mean, I'm not African, you know, they told us we was all African.

I'm Indian.

Wait a minute.

You know what I'm talking about.

I'm Indian.

No, period.

Yeah, I was here.

My people eat that food.

Yeah, my people was here.

And I don't have nothing against Africans, but my mama had me wearing dikis, and my mama believed she was African, too, you know, and, you know, so.

I'm not going to fall off this chair.

They, the.

The story allegedly is, you know, they.

They.

They bred that jealousy and animosity into us by.

The one story I heard in this Willie lynch situation is where you got the husband and you got the wife and you got the slave master.

And he's telling the wife, hey, your husband said, you know, I can have my way with you, and as long as he can stay in the house.

But you don't go tell him that, because if you do, I'm going to do this to your kids and xyz.

And then he goes and tells the husband the same thing.

You know, your wife says she wants to move into the house, and so then you breed this.

This jealousy into these two people, but they can't say nothing, you know, and then they have kids, and that's the story.

My thing is there's enough information out now to right the wrongs, even if that did happen.

Correct.

The same way they bred it in us, you can breed it out of.

You know, but, I mean, it's.

It's.

I'll be honest with you.

Like I told you, I'm.

I'm in a place right now where I have more doors closed than I've ever had closed in my life.

Really?

Yeah.

I used to have my doors open in a lot of situations, but for the.

The reason that you just spoke on.

Everybody don't want good for you.

You know what I'm talking about?

Everybody don't want good for you and.

Be the closest people to.

And you have to want your life, you know, it's not just guaranteed that you don't have that.

You got to want to live.

And in order to want to live, sometimes you got to seclude yourself.

Like I told you, with me, less is more.

And I lived a full life.

I've been outside, I've been around a thousand.

I did all the side shows, all this.

Was it fun?

Yes.

But I'm a grown ass man now, correct.

You feel me?

So it's kids that's outside, it's.

They turn.

When my dad was my age, he wasn't outside, correct.

He was going to work, he's coming home.

Every function I ever saw was my uncles and my aunties.

I never saw my mom around a bunch of females.

I never seen my dad around a bunch of dudes.

It was family.

So I don't know what our thing is as a people, but it's, it's.

I don't know, it's, it's weird because.

Very weird.

You can show somebody something and they can take that and twist it and turn it into whatever it is they want to turn it into.

You know what I mean?

And I think kind of like when we were off air, speaking on people who have stuff that they've been through, correct trauma, the way they process information, every individual is different.

I remember my mom, my mom told me, she said, be careful with who you have babies with.

She said, cuz it's like breeding dogs, just.

She said if they got crazy people in their family, you know, And I, when I was a kid, when she was saying this shit, right, it wasn't making sense to me.

But I get it because everybody has a gene pool.

Everybody has, you know, different shit.

So to answer the question, why are we the way we are?

I don't know.

But like I said, I think there's enough information to where if people wanted to, they could right the wrongs.

But I don't think people want to.

I think people just enjoy laying in the bullshit and using it as an excuse.

Yeah, the world is all about controversy.

Yeah.

I mean all about entertainment and controversy and fabrication.

Yeah.

Because like you said, Asian people do it, 10 people live in one house, then they go buy one house, nine people live in it and they repeat that until they all got 10 houses.

You feel me?

Yeah.

Well, we ain't got nothing.

I've been in jail before with Mexicans.

They make a spread.

All of them put all that shit together and they just come eat a little bit.

They playing ping pong and fucking around.

And I've seen black folks make a spread.

And the dude said, well, I had all the shit, this part is mine.

And.

And I mean, it's weird, but it is what it is.

I think we could do better though, because we are the original people.

See, that's what our people don't understand.

Like, dude, we are the originators period of bullshit.

So the information is out there, but you gotta want it.

It's just, you gotta want it.

And you know, I think we've been led down the road to where it's money, money, money.

That's all it is.

Money, money, money.

Get to this bag, the bag, the bag, the bag.

I'm about a bag, I'm about a bag.

I' back.

Funny thing about the money shit.

Like they say, you ain't never seen no Brinks truck following no hearse.

You can't take it with you, like you get it.

So I mean, you know, I. I don't want to sit here and say I pray for my people.

I wish better for my people, you know, I really do.

I wish better for my people.

Because I was fortunate enough to be raised by some pretty sharp individuals.

Absolutely.

Who put enough game in me.

And like my mom told me, she said, my job is to teach you right from wrong.

What you do with that is I'm gonna be on you.

You feel me?

So that's what I'm doing with my son right now.

I'm trying to put it in him.

I got a 15 year old son and it's hard, you know, because he's got the Internet and he's got all this other shit that we didn't have.

But all you can do is put the software into a person and hope when they get into a situation, they have something to fall back on.

I pray for that, for my own child too.

I pray for it.

Cause it's, you know, by the grace of God, she did make it to college.

She 18.

She has Sonoma State shout out to you, boo.

But like you said, they grew up on social media.

That's all they do.

She don't even wanna drive.

I'm like, dang it, 650.

I stole my first car at 12.

What you mean you don't wanna drive?

You know what I mean?

I think the generations, decade by decade, to be honest, it's getting worse, worse and worse.

And I'M gonna tell you.

Let me ask you this.

What's the biggest thing right now that's taking place that's actually breaking your heart always?

I ask myself this, and to me, I think I've answered it.

The fact that we can get along as people and support one another, that really, really bothers me.

What's the biggest thing right now happening either in your life or in general that breaks your heart to see, you.

Know what it's like a language barrier.

Like, what I'm dealing with with my son is, no, he doesn't live with me.

He lives with his mom.

And I have a daughter.

I have a daughter that's 30 and she.

I've never had an in home kid that lived.

Lived with me.

I got two kids.

The situation with my daughter was a little bit different than the situation with my son.

For one, he's a man.

Correct.

And you know, he's.

He's 6 foot 5, he's 15, you know, so he sees it the way he sees it.

But the barrier is just like, when I was a kid, I didn't think my mom and them knew shit either.

I thought they were stupid.

I get it as hell.

But what I don't understand is how is it that he cannot look at me and look around when he's with me and see that this.

I must know something.

They don't care.

You feel me?

They don't care.

And that's the weirdest part to me.

Cause I knew when I was a kid, I love my mom and my dad equally, but I knew my dad was the nigga who could make the play, who could buy me the bike, who could.

You feel me?

I knew who could make the play.

And that doesn't make my dad better than my mom, but it's just that awareness of knowing how to see what is going on with this Internet.

It's just different because they have so much.

Like, when I grew up, we had homies, you know, you had five or six friends.

Now you're on the Internet, you got 2,000 friends or 2,000 followers.

That's a lot for a kid to process.

Correct.

You know what I mean?

Correct.

But what I know happened is we were an experiment and people experimented on us.

You know what I mean?

We, the main ones, they got the fathers out of the house.

They gave the moms a check, you know what I'm talking about?

And they, they split that household up.

They started with that a long time ago.

Long.

And it worked.

So what's different for kids nowadays is I was In a house with my mom and my dad, you know?

And I wanted.

And I wanted that for both of my kids.

It didn't end up that way.

Sometimes I blame myself for that.

Should I have stuck around?

But then there's that piece of me that been like, okay, stick around and not be happy doesn't equate to making it right.

You know what I mean?

Sometimes that could be worse.

Exactly.

But sometimes it's looked at as, like, being selfish, you know, just thinking about yourself.

But once you split up the union, then the kid automatically is short circuited, you know what I mean?

And I look at.

We just say cars, for instance.

I come up in the Bay where niggas rode Trues and Vogues and star wires and Vogues and Zeniths and Vogues, Falcons, Cougars, Mustangs.

That was our culture.

And then you had a generation of youngsters who came up after us, who didn't have parents, who had those cars, who didn't have uncles around who had those cars.

So they looking at videos, and they looking at.

So they're building cars that they see on videos, which may be Texas culture or Miami culture, you know what I mean?

And even though those cars are clean, they're not Oakland culture.

So once you break the union up, it's tough, very tough to reel in that stability into a kid, especially when they got friends.

And everybody's getting high now and the shit they smoking ain't the shit we were smoking, and everybody's on the prescription drugs, you know, and all that shit, you know, it's just crazy, man.

The way I look at life is funny.

You watch TV now, and all they doing is selling dope.

Every other commercial is, you know, get on this and get on this, get on this, get on this.

Every other.

Every other commercial is try this drug out, try this drug out.

But they'll lock a nigga up on the street for selling.

Sweet.

But they selling.

They don't want you to buy no street drugs.

They want you to get on this shit for sure.

And then that shit is causing depression and suicidal thoughts and, you know, shit like that.

It's.

It's.

I don't mean I.

We could be talking about aliens and spaceships and shit.

If you keep me talking, I swear to God, you don't want to get.

You don't want to get me going.

I swear to God.

Just let's get on a lighter note, because, boy, people be on there talking about that Richie Rich is tripping, you know, let's just.

Let's just keep it that Man, Richie Rich is a real one.

Because this is what people need to hear.

You know what I mean?

And it's just we.

We, like you said, we done with the rap game.

We done with all that.

Like, people, like I told you, that's what this is.

What I want my platform to be about, you know what I mean?

Is real life.

Because when they see you on the gram, they see you rapping and they see you about that, and your car is clean and you might got your cigar, but people need to see this side of Richie, you feel me?

So I appreciate you, like, just expanding, you know, or just giving your knowledge to the people.

Cause they need to see that, you know, you.

You wise.

Wise.

It needs to be said.

But we could talk about how your ass bust your butt on that flow with that Russell boy.

What happened?

So I tore my.

I tore my lower patella, which is.

You look healed.

You look good.

Yeah, I'm back.

I'm back.

So you got a kneecap.

You got a upper tendon and a lower tendon.

Once you tear the tendon, the kneecap, they like rubber bands, right?

So this one is sold to the kneecap.

That way the other one comes here.

Once you sever that, the kneecap comes back.

And then you see that.

That hole that you saw just fucking around in the back juice with them kids, you know.

And Juvenile was back there.

Yeah, juvie was back there.

And I mean, to me, Juvenile is probably one of.

If not, you know, he one of the top niggas to ever do it.

So knowing I had a shot to get up there and talk some shit after he had got off, I wanted the nigga to see me cook, you know, plus the rest of the people in the yard.

And it's just like this ethereal feeling that's in the Russell's backyard.

And that what we doing came on and people got to jumping and fucking around.

And Malachi started moving and jumping, and then I started jumping.

And like I said in.

In a previous interview with Sway, like, when I was jumping, I didn't feel my knees at all.

Like, I felt like I was flying.

You feel me?

But what happened was I'm in the air.

And my plan is to, when I land, turn this way and start performing to the crowd.

And I guess my body hadn't connected with the plan yet.

And when I landed, my shit just folded.

But see, I tore this one probably.

Ooh, this one is.

I tore this one back in the day playing softball.

So I knew the feeling when I felt it.

When I went Down.

They thought that they could help me up, like they was gonna pick me up.

I'm like, nigga, ain't no picking this up.

Look, See, I didn't see it all.

Did the ambulance come and stuff?

Like it was that bad?

No, I drove.

I drove there.

I had to drive home.

Yeah, lucky it was this knee.

But no, I actually stayed there and cooked because it was my first time back there in an actual show.

I had went to Russ's house a few times when they was back there around rehearsing and shit like that.

And, I mean, if you've never been to one of them backyard shows, it's something to see.

The energy back there is different.

You know, it's kids back there.

It's grown folks, young, old folks.

And when I went down and I could feel my like.

So the patella is the thing that allows you to lift up like that.

So, like, last time I tore this one, when I got to the doctor, they was like, lift your leg up.

I'm sitting down.

I'm like, I'm trying.

They said, okay, you tore your patella tendon.

You can't.

So when I'm on the ground and they trying to pick me up, I'm like, dude, you can't pick me up.

I could feel like it's gone, so.

But the song is on, and it's My.

My verse is coming up, so I snatched the mic from Russ, and I just got to cooking.

I like that.

That's a real artist, though.

Yeah, but.

But I tell people all the time, like, I have this.

This guy who.

Who appears when I'm in, like, my deepest distress mode, and.

And he gets me out of shit.

You know what I mean?

It's like an alter ego.

So it ain't God?

I wouldn't say it's God.

Cause he drink, he smoke, he do all type of shit.

But.

Okay, God did.

Yeah, but.

Yeah, but.

But it's like this.

It's like this.

If you ever drank tequila, but then drove home or drank whatever you drink and you get home, you're like, I don't even remember driving home last night.

It's one of them type of things.

I've been in certain situations where this.

This guy comes and he just takes over.

I think that's the dude who was doing them raps.

Yeah.

Who was doing all that shit, and.

Cause his thing is gonna make sure that he keep me fresh.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Cause I'm sitting there rapping.

I'm talking about what the injury was.

I'm Freestyling, but I'm still on point.

And I'm not in no pain.

Wow.

I'm not.

I'm not in no pain at all.

So then they pick me up, they carry me out of there.

And by now my knee is swelling up.

I'm still not feeling no pain.

So they talking about calling the ambulance, whatever.

I'm like, no, I'm good.

I'm good.

I want to.

I want to see some more of the show.

So they was like, well, what do you want us to do?

So they.

They wrapped it up.

I said, just bring me.

Carry me out there, set me in a chair.

They sat me in a chair, and I did some more app, and I. I think I did a five on it.

Verse or some other shit.

After about an hour, then the pain.

After all the adrenaline is gone, the pain starts setting in, and I was like, I better get out of here.

So they go to the hospital then?

Yeah.

Well, they carry me to the car.

Okay.

And I had my son with me, and I drove and I drove myself from Vallejo all the way to Antioch to the doctor to the hospital.

And they looked at it and told me they had to put it in a cast, keep it straight.

And I had to have surgery the next day.

I went in and got it sewed up, and I was, you know, you.

Good now, that wasn't that long ago.

Yeah.

No.

I sprayed some WD40 on that thing.

One thing about that WD40, it's gonna get shit right.

You hear me?

Yeah.

And that, man.

And another thing, though, like, it's crazy because I have my whole shit, my whole career, whether it's been music, just in the street has always been like, floss.

Like, clean.

That's my thing.

So had I not handled that the way I handled it, imagine what they would have did to me on the Internet.

You feel me?

And it just.

That wasn't the option.

That one option.

Now, did I know I was gonna do that?

No, but, I mean, I'm.

That's.

That's how hard I'd be riding on this shit that I'd be doing.

Like, I'm serious about my fresh.

So I'm glad I was able to freestyle out of that.

Like, freestyling.

That's how I started rapping.

Like, a lot of people don't know that about me.

Like, I can freestyle my ass off and make sense clean bars.

I probably gotta pay you some more money.

You got to get the tip jar out.

You have to get the tip jar out.

You feel.

Look, everybody behind the scenes, laughing.

But yeah, it was an unfortunate situation.

It was a negative that I was happy.

I. I was able to turn into a positive.

And I remember driving home, what you learn from it?

That I'm not the same age as LaRussell and Malachi.

Now them niggas is young.

Them niggas doing the get low.

Them niggas got good knees.

Stay in your lane, double.

Stay in your lane.

Get over there, Cook with all that jumping and shit.

That ain't your thing, bro.

Like, stop.

You know, you know, damn near like, yeah, damn near like you catch the holy ghost back there.

You was just feeling it.

I thought I was a kid back there.

You feel me?

I'm messing up my basket.

I mean, cuz, them little is a lot of fun, man.

I mean, I went on the road with Russ and them, you know, Splash tta, you know, Russ, Malachi.

Yes.

Like, I mean they whole crew, like, they just.

They fun.

Yeah, a lot of fun.

A lot of fun.

High energy, you know that.

And they, they woke my game up.

You know what I mean?

And that, that spill alone kind of like re lit my.

My fire.

And like I said, I learned about the, the.

The Internet, the content.

I learned all that from Russ.

I used to just post, but I didn't have a clue like, you know, what I should be posting and how much I should be posting same.

Yeah, I learned, I learned a lot of from Russ.

You know, I want to shout the Russell out.

Real brilliant individual, man.

Yeah, real brilliant individual.

I'm new to the games.

This whole team know about them like that.

His whole team.

I know he just.

This is clear me up because I don't really know and I don't want to speak about his business, nothing like that.

But you know, I'm new to the scene and I've always been on the back end, you know what I mean?

But as far as little Russell, I did once, I did a little research on him.

I finally met him, you know, but I did research on him and he do, you know, the backyard things and stuff Now I heard little J or Lil J, what's his name, Jay Z tried to sign him and he declined that.

Right.

Okay.

What, what?

See, and I'm not even educated about that.

So he declined a record deal.

I don't know the ins and outs of that.

All I know is what I saw him speak on.

I think the first go round they approached him with a deal that he didn't think was what he wanted to do and he passed on it.

And then later on the second time around, whatever they came to made sense and he moved on it.

Oh, so he is signed with the.

JZ people that don't get that he.

That's what he quoted on his page.

Don't get me the line.

I don't know the ins and outs.

But he did go on his page and say that he did some type of deal with Roc Nation.

So I don't know if it's a artist deal or what kind of deal, but he's got.

He's got something going on with Roc Nation.

Well, that's what's up.

That's a huge move.

I mean, I'm proud of him too.

Like, especially coming from the Bay, you know, probably with lack of support, you know, and just try to stand in his own lane.

And I'm sure people been trying to pick him up.

So at least if he.

Once he got picked up, he got picked up by damn near the bottom, the biggest like.

But he did say that he still is independent and he's just whatever.

However the deal is structured, he still has his independence.

He can create and release when he wants to.

And that's always been his thing.

He wants to be able to create and release whenever he wants to.

And so that's the thing with these record labels.

You can't release when you want.

Yeah.

Like once some of these labels, once you sign up.

Yeah, because like Russ Russell's tell you if he make a song Thursday night and he want to drop it Friday morning, he gonna do that.

Sometimes when you with a label, you don't have that kind of freedom.

You know what I mean?

That's why a lot of these artists is like, they practicing, like, I need to be independent.

Right.

But certain labels will see if you got your own motion and it's working, then they want to saddle up and be a part of that too.

Correct.

It's a lot of that going on now.

It's just like anything else.

Like that old cycle of how shit used to go is getting washed out.

And so now the labels are coming around instead of if you can't beat them, join them type thing.

You feel me?

I agree.

It's a lot of that.

Yes, because it's a lot.

Because right now you can get direct to consumer through the Internet.

No, damn.

Like everything is direct consumer.

You was able to get straight.

Straight to me.

Yeah, I was.

You didn't have to contact no management or no.

Like that.

Yeah, like, you know, got a few dollars, rich, I'm coming to get them.

Yeah.

You feel me?

Like I know they've been on me about that, but to me, you know, I think we had this conversation.

Me, I'mma pay who I think is worth it.

Right?

You know what I'm saying?

And that's just where I'm at with it.

If I don't think you worth it, then I won't even put that out there.

Right?

You know what I mean?

You deserve it.

You've been in the industry forever.

To me, if I came without an offer, to me, that's disrespectful.

Because if I'm in an industry, oh,.

They come without offers.

Yeah, I wouldn't be there.

I believe you mean.

You know what I mean?

I wouldn't be there.

So I think we just had this conversation.

You know, everybody has their own perception of people, right?

How I may view you, they may not view you like that, and that's cool.

But if I'm a view the way that I view, Just let me view you how the way I'm gonna do.

You know what I mean?

Cause ain't nobody giving me no money to give to you.

It's coming out my packet, you know?

But at the end of the day, like I say, everybody has their own Persona, own people.

Like, even you, you was like, you're just a normal person, right?

You're a normal guy.

But.

But it could be John, Jim and Joe over there that think you.

You're.

You're.

You are considered a celebrity.

Right?

You see what I'm saying?

I had to tell myself that in my mind, I am a celebrity podcaster.

You know, they've been getting on me about, well, all celebrities, they don't even be worth it.

And regular people can bring more attraction.

That is true.

Right.

You know, but I have to start in my town.

I need support from y' all to even build a foundation so people can take me serious.

Right?

You know, so it's gonna cost me a bag.

And I'm okay with that because I think good conversation is needed.

Authenticity needs to be seen.

Cause I am sick of the fabrication.

Like, I'm so tired of people just.

It's just too much fake.

And I know you can probably relate, like, coming up, even being in the industry, like you said, I know they were swarming towards you.

Cause they see you, you come in when you look like you got the bag.

What that RR stand for?

This your brand?

Yeah.

Show the people.

Yeah, I need one.

Where's mine?

That's my logo right there.

Yeah, I need this here.

Even this.

This came through LA Russell, he showed Me how to put the merch together.

Like he told me.

He said it ain't a lot of money in selling the music, but what you do is you make the music, then you make the merch.

You get something, you can sell them.

And I want to shout out Vince from the company who works with the Russell.

They.

They put this together for me.

I like that.

Yeah.

So this is a top and bottom suit.

I sell in different colors.

This is the A's colorway, the green and gold.

Just another thing, piece of game that I learned from Russ.

Like steel, sharpen steel.

I'm going to give you a quick little story on this.

Being a regular person.

You getting, you going to get.

You going to get your money's worth around here today.

Because I feel like talking.

It's probably because like that morning, what I told you happened with me this.

Morning, you didn't tell me everything.

I was trying to get you business, but you didn't.

So I used to hustle, okay?

And I remember being young and I was on a spot and I was a rookie basically on this spot.

And it was a cat who.

What we would call a doping back in the day.

I used to get out early in the morning and he told me straight up, he said, man, give me something to get me started and I'm gonna shoot him your way all day.

I'm like, I don't think I need to be giving him nothing for free, right?

I said, so I ain't giving him shit.

He's like, man, come on, just give me a little something to get me started.

I'm gonna shoot them to you all day.

I told him I ain't got nothing for him, you know.

So he told me, don't let $5 cost you 500.

I didn't have a clue what he was talking about.

All that day, he was rushing knocks right past me to other people.

He's bringing them, bringing them.

No, not him.

Dude, right there.

Go to him.

And he was like, I told you, don't let $5 cost you 500, right?

So this individual, his name was Willie Boy, okay?

Now fast forward maybe five years after that, maybe three.

Let's say I say three years after that, I catch a case and I end up doing some time in Santa Rita, first time going to jail for something serious to where I wasn't just like speeding tickets or DUI or something stupid like that where I gotta actually sit down for a minute.

So they put me in the pod and, you know, they had them old stories they used to tell you when you go to jail, don't let nobody give you nothing.

So when they run me in the pot, I'm over here trying to put my.

Get my bunk together.

You know what I mean?

It's a bottom bunk.

This dude walked up on me, said, hey, man, Rich, you ain't got to sleep on the bottom.

I mean, on the top, we can put you on the bottom.

You ain't got to get on the top bunk.

I said, no, I'm good, right?

He said, no, man, I got you.

I got you.

So he walked off.

So I'm still putting my on the top.

I don't want nothing from nobody.

So then he pushed back up on me, and he say, you need anything?

I know you ain't got no.

No canteen yet.

I got whatever you need.

I'm like, bro, I'm good.

I don't need nothing, right?

So he look at me, say, you Rich?

You don't remember me?

I got you, dog.

I'm like, no, I'm straight, so I'm making my shit up.

So he pushed back up on this nigga.

He swole, right?

And he running this pod.

Like when he whistle, niggas is moving, right?

He said, rich is Willie Boy.

So this the dope fiend that was from the turf, but in jail, he was the guy, right?

So I learned there that you can't just treat people any kind of way.

Cause you never know where you may see these people again.

And I'm like, willie Boy from dirt road, he like, yeah, n. What's up?

I'm like, what the fuck?

Confused, right?

That's deep.

Yeah.

And.

And when he was out, you know, when he was in his addiction, we.

We frowned upon Willie Boy.

But inside that pod, he was.

He was the dude, man.

You feel me?

So, like that, you have to learn these kind of lessons.

So that's why I'm always humble.

I treat everybody the same.

You feel me?

It ain't no big me, little you.

I just don't.

I don't run that play.

I know a lot of who run that play.

Absolutely.

Me too.

I don't run that play.

And then there was another guy in there when I was on my way home, OG and he told me a real good story.

He said, bro, he said, I'm glad you're going home.

I'm packing my up.

I'm about to leave.

He said, man, I don't want to see you back up in here.

He said, this ain't for you.

He said, even though I enjoyed all the time you was in Here, man, you, you, you, you bigger than this, right?

He said, let me tell you something before you go.

He said, when you walk down the road of life, you're gonna trip and stumble over.

He said, whatever you do when you trip over something, he said, don't keep going.

Turn around, pick that up, take it with you.

He said, you trip over this rock, turn around, pick that up, take it with you, trip over this stick, turn around, pick that up, take it with you, he said, because you will come back down that same road and you don't want to be tripping off of the same shit.

So see, these are gems that I got from, from street, from in the game.

Like that stuck with me, right?

You can learn from some of the people you might think you can't learn nothing from.

That's why I'm very grounded, that's why I'm punctual.

That's why I'm on time.

That's why I'm a come.

You gonna get your money's worth and more when you fudge with me.

That's just what type of individual I am.

But that comes with its own set of problems.

No real talk even that.

What problem?

I mean, sometimes, sometimes people just don't.

Sometimes people just don't like when a is, is a one.

Like is.

This is crazy.

Listen, I was not expecting you to say that after these gyms being dropped,.

But that is actual.

Can you elaborate on that?

Because that's facts.

Yeah, just some.

I mean being 100 caused problems.

Yes.

You.

You can't please everybody.

You cannot.

You can't please everybody.

You can.

You know what I mean?

You cannot.

So it's, it's, it's best to be around like minded people.

Correct.

You know what I mean?

Keep it strong.

Choose your tribe.

And, and with that.

And life is full of surprises.

It's full of lessons.

But I mean, it's a beautiful thing because some people didn't get up today.

That's true.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And I, I definitely agree to that.

Life is definitely full of surprises.

Like, I didn't even know I would be here ever.

Sitting here with you on a damn podcast.

Yeah, with the way you got at me in the parking lot, you almost.

Wasn't sitting here with me clowning.

For those of you that wasn't here, we gotta tell them because I'm so embarrassed.

So I accidentally roasted the men.

Now, so hold on, let give me some space here because all the windows is black as night.

You can't see anything.

You can't even see, you know, how when you look through the tent, you could kind of see the.

You can't see anything even in the front, right?

I couldn't see nothing.

I didn't see your little cute bald heads coming through the thing.

I didn't see anything.

She ran that parking attendant game on me.

You know how they do you when you trying to park at the club?

The lot is full, lot is full, lot is full.

You see three.

Hopefully it was bad.

It was so bad.

And the cold part was I was saving the parking spot for him, and.

And I was pulling in, and she was like, do you have a spot in here?

And I was like.

So then I started making a U turn, right?

Cause I thought.

And then she said, you can't park right there.

So this just goes to show you that I am who I've been telling y'.

All.

I didn't say nothing.

I modestly backed on deal, didn't roll down the window, pulled on out, still.

Didn't know it was it.

Drove around the block a couple times and found me a little park on the street.

I mean, she was doing what she supposed to do, and I was doing what I was supposed to do.

Listening guard card while she was checking.

Shit.

They bullies us with these parks.

Like, I pay a lot of money for this, okay?

And they.

Even my own producer can't even park.

You know what I mean?

Like, I mean, and, you know, no offense to nobody, but we are in a predominantly Caucasian area, right?

I'm probably one of the only black doctors.

I don't even know if, you know, I got PhD in psychology, but I'm the only black doctor that's in Livermore, California.

But you left your thing out there just double parked.

It's just sitting out there in the middle.

Yeah, I blocked him.

The mozzie box.

Yeah, I see.

Because he in my parking spot.

So you will not move until I'm finished recording.

Yeah, I see.

I said, oh, told me not to come in.

And then just locked it up.

Locked it on up.

But the coldest part about the whole is right, I'm.

I'm looking at her outfit.

I said, I bet that's the I'm going to see.

I know that's the I'm going to.

I. I bet you a thousand bucks that this is who I'm going to see.

But I ain't say.

I said, let me just.

And when I walked up these stairs and bumped into my man and we heard your voice.

I'm trying to.

He giving me the key to the door.

He's here early, and I seen them chrome pants come out.

I said, yep, I knew that was her.

I knew that was her.

He said, yeah, I'm the one that you just block.

I said, wait, what the.

The cringe in my body.

Like, I wanted my knee.

I ain't gonna lie.

I almost went down on my knees too.

Like, it was over.

Like y' all was finna call ambulance.

Cause I was like, I knew the way you was regulating.

I said, I bet you this is her podcast too, the way she checking shit.

Cause like, she said, it wasn't nothing.

It ain't a lot of us outside.

Ain't none of us outside.

They be trying to punk me.

And I be like, hold on.

They bring the real negro out of me sometimes.

She got that parking lot on lock.

Come on, have your together.

If y' all come up here to with us.

Have your together.

Straight up, have your together.

That's all.

I'm cool, y'.

All.

And.

But the cold part, when I came out in the man 30 minutes early, I didn't know who you was talking to person.

I said, well, I know that ain't him here 30 minutes early.

What we doing?

So I. I'm like, is that him?

He said, yes, me.

I'm the one you just kicked out the parking lot.

Oh.

I'm like, oh, mind you, this is our first meet, right?

So now I give him a hug.

I forced you to hug me.

It's all good.

I mean, I want him real, real bad.

I mean, I wasn't mad.

It was now.

But you know what that just taught me?

See, I'm a work in progress, too.

You know what I mean?

We all work in progress.

Well, like I told you, I was already having a day, and here I come.

So that.

That's why.

Because usually I probably would have rolled down the window and was like, I'm supposed to be here for you know what I mean?

But I was already, like, having a moment, so I said, you know what?

I'm just back my little on out of here and go find me somewhere to park.

Luckily, I found something across the street over there.

Oh, my God.

And I guarantee the person I'm blocking, they probably mad as mad as mad as mad.

Yeah, I bet you they won't block being nobody my parking spot no more, okay?

Because we pay a lot of money to be.

To be up in here.

Come on.

But.

Nah.

But anyway, not.

I ain't gonna lie, though.

That kind of taught me to, like, I'm working on working on being humble a little bit.

More not so defensive.

You see how I instantly with you, I'm like, you know, I.

Cause you good looking.

That's why.

You see, when you're good looking, y' all just be cocky like that.

Percy, Am I cocky?

But keep it 100, Percy.

Yeah, I am.

Yeah.

Percy, go Keep it above.

But he said, what does that mean?

Okay.

Shot.

Okay.

Shout out to the mechanics.

We just had this conversation, okay?

You said.

I didn't say it.

You said, I'm a nice looking woman.

Right?

So imagine being a nice looking woman.

Maybe got your stuff together.

You got your own bag.

You ain't.

You know, you doing your own thing.

And the men that been approaching you all your life sometimes ain't always respectful.

Right?

You know what I'm saying?

You know, he knows my family, right?

You know, he know my mama.

I know his mama.

I grew up knowing Richie Rich, right?

Literally.

They used to say my mama was one of the baddest ladies growing up.

Right?

Right?

And so my mom always used to tell me that being beautiful could be a curse.

Right?

And I never understood what she was saying until now.

Like, I found myself, you know, I'm secure with myself.

I know who I am.

Right?

I'm confident.

I.

But I am.

I'm not modest, Percy.

I would say to certain people, you are okay.

Like, certain people, you change up for.

Okay.

You know what I'm saying?

Okay.

Like other people.

It depends.

Yeah.

It is situational.

If you come in here, you trying to boss on me?

I'm deaf.

The bull.

I'm coming out.

I'm coming for you.

Like you.

You.

You the person from the park.

I'm a Leo.

Yeah, if worse.

I mean, she was.

She was.

Percy, she was popping it.

I mean, she was popping it.

What's your slippers on?

Pink slippers.

Those Maserati up.

And what you doing?

Cause I'm.

See, I'm triggered.

Cause whoever this is, is in your spot, right?

Right here.

They're doing the guy I'm blocking.

That's your spot, right?

So he's blocking your spot.

I'm not knowing you already here.

Yeah.

So now I'm lit.

I'm a little pissed.

Cause, see, I felt just a little disrespected.

But I say that to say, imagine always being like this, because I ain't gonna hold you.

See, maybe this is where I ain't coming in.

Modest and humble, but it is the truth.

I always had my stuff together.

I've always had a job.

You know, I've always.

I don't know if you Know, I wrote this book.

I always was in the streets getting money, doing my own thing.

That's probably the CEO period.

Yeah, that's probably.

Don't really rock with me because I was the.

The nuisance, the black sheep of the family.

Right.

Okay, I'm gonna talk the mess, and I'm gonna stand up for what's right.

But imagine, you know, being this woman, and men constantly be like, you know what I mean?

Like, at some point, you do get aggressive, shout out to the mechanics.

Cause we was talking about that.

He asked me, you know, you being a quote unquote, beautiful, natural woman or successful, whatever, how do you cope or deal with men constantly being at you?

And what I told him actually was, they don't really be at me like that.

Right.

I think they scared of me.

They intimidated of me.

Not like violent, because I'm not a violent type woman.

I bet I know.

Which mechanic asked you that.

Racks.

4.

Racks asked you that, huh?

Yeah.

Cause tweed.

Tweed is tweed.

More low key.

Very low key.

The whole interview.

I had to pull his dress to talk.

What you gonna say, Negro?

Like, no, but he's a good dude.

But Racks.

I knew it had to be Rex.

Definitely.

We had to tweet.

Low key.

Very low key.

Yeah, but.

But Racks did.

Good dudes, though.

Both of them.

Good dudes.

Very good men.

Very they.

You know, I definitely gave them they kudos.

They.