"People treat you the way you teach them that they can treat you."

That's how Rebecca Steele, therapist and depth-based coach, opens one of the most honest conversations this podcast has had about why therapists over-give and what that costs a practice.

In this episode, Rebecca brings a depth psychology lens to a problem most practice owners feel every single day but rarely name out loud. What does it actually mean that we offer free consults, absorb missed appointments with guilt, and feel like charging for our time is somehow at odds with our values? Rebecca argues there is a name for this pattern, and it is not just professional culture. It is archetypal.

In this episode, Rebecca shares:

• Why therapists unconsciously take on the 'Good Mother' archetype and what it costs when you have no needs of your own

• The orphan archetype explained: how a pattern of emotional deprivation in early relationships shows up later as over-giving and poor boundaries in business

• The connection between bread-crumbing in relationships and the way therapists accept less than they are worth

• How guilt about enforcing your cancellation policy is rarely about the policy, and what emotion is actually underneath it

• Why Rebecca started charging a $25 fee for consultations and how it changed the power dynamic from the very first contact

• The patriarchal structure of the therapy profession: who built the frameworks, who practises them, and why financial inequity is baked into the system

• Why therapists staying invisible while unqualified coaches claim the space is not just a business problem. It is a professional and ethical one

• What Rebecca's forthcoming book Helper as Mother is naming, and why she is willing to be a contrarian voice in the field

If you recognize yourself in the helper archetype, if you have ever felt guilt about enforcing a boundary, wondered why charging feels hard, or quietly resented giving time away for free, this one's for you.

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ABOUT YOUR HOST: Cecilia Mannella is a Registered Social Worker, Clinical Counsellor, and therapy practice coach with 25 years as a mental health practitioner and nearly two decades building her own practice from solo therapist to seven-figure group practice. She helps Canadian therapists build profitable, sustainable businesses without apologizing for their ambition or compromising their values.

Connect with Cecilia: https://www.ceciliamannella.com/

ABOUT THE GUEST: For over a decade, Rebecca Steele has helped adults untangle the unconscious patterns shaping their relationships, identity, and life direction. In her work as both a therapist and a depth-based coach, she integrates archetype theory, the Enneagram, and relational pattern work to support insight that translates into lived change, not just intellectual awareness. Rebecca is particularly known for her exploration of the Orphan archetype and how it appears across culture and storytelling. Through films and series like The Queen's Gambit, Anne of Green Gables, Peaky Blinders, Adolescence, and Good Will Hunting, she examines how themes of abandonment, resilience, and belonging mirror our own psychological landscapes.

Connect with Rebecca: https://www.rebeccaannesteele.com/

Instagram: @rebecca.anne.steele | https://www.instagram.com/rebecca.anne.steele/

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