In today's episode, you'll discover more about Functional Tennis, how it came to be, and where it might be headed. Fabio takes the time to share his origin story as well as what he would do if he were King of Tennis. (We aren't sure physically moving a whole country to a better climate is possible, but we will look into it)
Fabio Molle is the brain behind Functional Tennis which has branched out into multiple areas within the sport. Besides having a highly successful social media account, he has created his own products without any investors supporting him. The Functional Tennis Saber has proven to be a hit with many top players trying it out, including 21-time Grand Slam champion Novak Djokovic. On top of that, Molle also runs a well known podcast which has included guests such as Goran Ivanisevic, Robin Soderling, Casper Ruud and Alex de Minaur.
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Speaker:that for us. We would love to earn your five star reviews. In today's episode, Bobby and I
Speaker:talked to Fabio Molle of Functional Tennis. Most of you will recognize Functional Tennis from
Speaker:their Instagram page, but we're more interested in the Saber. Have a listen and let us know what you think.
Speaker:Fabio, do me a favor. Tell me about yourself. Tell me about the Saber. We're looking forward to hear that.
Speaker:And tell me who you are and why do we care?
Speaker:We're on. Are we? Where are we? This is it. This is it. This is it. This is it.
Speaker:This is what you got. Thank you very much for having me on. And I'm Fabio Molle. I run
Speaker:on operate. Take care of most things at Functional Tennis, which is obviously it starts an Instagram
Speaker:account. We have an e-commerce store. We sell some products such as the Saber, which is what we're
Speaker:most known for at the moment over the years. That's its transition from product to product. But
Speaker:past two years, we've been working on that and trying to get more people using Sabers around the
Speaker:world. We have a podcast with about two and a half hours of the episodes. We've been going since 2019.
Speaker:And sometimes we get paid to show up at events to cover events and showcase them on Functional
Speaker:Tennis. We're about to hit a million followers. I'd say by September time. So that's really exciting.
Speaker:I don't normally celebrate the milestones as we've gone through them, but I think this is a big one.
Speaker:So I'm not sure exactly what's going to happen then, but I'm going to try celebrate even
Speaker:locally with a few friends and family here. And that's basically it. Played a bit of tennis as a
Speaker:young kid. Wasn't great. It was probably to be like, hand in the age group. And I'm probably
Speaker:being generous to myself there. And played up and then 1718. Tought about going to scholarship in the
Speaker:States, but wasn't going to get a great school like some of my friends got. So I decided to stay in
Speaker:Ireland. I studied software engineering. So by trade, I'm a software engineer. And I played a bit
Speaker:of tennis in college. And then after college decided to work for my family business in Katrin.
Speaker:So spent a lot of time there. We wouldn't know. And it grown up. We would just rent my summers there
Speaker:and weekends working there. So I started running a store and then started to go out with again.
Speaker:It was tough. Family business are really tough. I taught anyway. And set up an e-commerce company
Speaker:selling Christmas jumpers in 2008 now. So you guys called them Chris ugly Christmas sweaters. We
Speaker:just called them Christmas jumpers over here. And we were shipping all over the world. So that was
Speaker:pretty good. That can be good in the same decomers. And never actually got into the code in the
Speaker:software game. How did you start up? Never did great with the funky Christmas sweaters as they were
Speaker:called. The funky Christmas jumpers did well. And so slowly sneaked out the family business.
Speaker:And then until sort of that went backwards then it was a fad, but it lasted long enough to suck me in.
Speaker:And long enough to make a mess of everything. So anyway, functional tennis starting in 2016,
Speaker:just as me in my turdies had injuries and I thought people were putting out some good videos out there.
Speaker:And there was nowhere to save them on Instagram back then. So I thought maybe there's other people
Speaker:who are interested, you know, who are bodies breaking down and just people around the world putting
Speaker:out good exercises. And I just start sharing them. And that evolved in tennis content and we grew
Speaker:organically ever since then. And I probably went full time about, I'd say five years ago, I went full
Speaker:time to functional tennis. So I've been, it's been a slow burner. It's usual. Everybody thinks like
Speaker:it's overnight success. Not that it's successful at the moment. It's still a long way to go. But in
Speaker:some people's eyes were successful, but it's taken a long time to get here. And that leads us onto today.
Speaker:And we're on today, Bobby. He says, I'm almost at a million followers. And it's not that successful.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of people would say that's a pretty good milestone. Good.
Speaker:Pointing out success. So congratulations on that's upcoming. That's exciting for you.
Speaker:And we're curious. So you're not a tennis coach by trade. You're a caterer by trade.
Speaker:Caterer and software engineer and software engineer.
Speaker:A person. That's what I'm by trade. Yeah. Obviously surrounded by I surrounded by play tennis,
Speaker:surrounded by the best players in the country for years. Then by late 20s, I actually, where we grew up,
Speaker:they brought those always one of our universities is there and they moved in the national train and
Speaker:center there. So there's an indoor center there. So I start going in as practice partner with the
Speaker:top guys and girls. So I spent a few years going in there every day. I was flexing with my time when
Speaker:you work for yourself or your family, even bit of flexibility in there. So I used to go in most days,
Speaker:hit there and I got really improved a lot and a lot and then I went off and I played a few futures,
Speaker:but never made main draw. We won a few qualities matches and then there was injuries for creeping up.
Speaker:Well, not so yeah, so that and then I was a my friends played Davis Cup for Ireland. So I was always
Speaker:sort of around tennis and some other friends were coaches in the national training center. So
Speaker:I've always had a keen interest from playing and from speaking to my friends about what's going on.
Speaker:Gotcha. So you're you're focused on in the podcast. I see pro tennis players, coaches,
Speaker:parents, trainers, physios, you you talk industry, but is it also you have advice or their tips? Is
Speaker:they're coaching for the listener? What's the podcast do real quick? No, we don't coach the listeners.
Speaker:We're more trying to gain from experience from players and people on their team. So closely
Speaker:associated with them. There has been more to pass to your transition from more of a parent role. We
Speaker:taught there's a lot of parents out there and they want to know how would our other parents do it around
Speaker:the world. So I've tried to get more parents on and see, you know, have they have evolved, have what
Speaker:they've learned their journey with their juniors with their kids. And so I've tried doing that. So to
Speaker:make sure of that and and the people associated with players, players, top players are hard to get on.
Speaker:Really hard. So we'll take who we can as in if we get a top player great. If not, we try and work
Speaker:around their team. And like I've had all the top trainers on of top 10 guys and
Speaker:girls, we've seen amazing and we just they may give a little bit of experience or an insight into what
Speaker:goes on and then we just learn and I don't give it. It's rare. I've probably done three or four
Speaker:solo episodes in the 230 episodes. But in general, we're just we want to hear about people's stories.
Speaker:Had they got to where they were. What they've learned long the way and what advice there are the ones
Speaker:given advice to our listeners who may be parents, coaches, players, juniors. Got it. That makes sense.
Speaker:And but you're most known and I'm sure Bobby wants to ask because he's got a bunch of kids that
Speaker:want to try this thing. But you're most known for this saber and it started it started as a stick.
Speaker:It was basically like a cooking spoon, right? So tell me tell me how the saber came to be.
Speaker:Well, probably well at the minute we're most known for sabers until two years ago, it didn't exist. So
Speaker:we're still known for our Instagram account feature and juniors feature and behind you know,
Speaker:player practice content you would normally find we've established good relationships with players
Speaker:and their team to get content. So that's what we would have been and we're still heavily like we
Speaker:work with all the top juniors now, publishing their videos from practice and we're still known for
Speaker:that and people will think people want to be on functional tennis. It's a right of passage. I think
Speaker:at this stage, but going back yet so ultimately this has to be turned into a business to be sustainable.
Speaker:And early on, back in 2010, I actually had a tennis app called my tennis tracker, which is for tennis
Speaker:players to the iPhone was new enough when it was an iPhone app where tennis players could document
Speaker:their matches, you know, put in reports and and that and the goals connected to their coaches. And
Speaker:then my goal is by the future that I was going to travel and promote this as I travel. That didn't work
Speaker:out. It turns out we had a code in the States. I'd know back up of it. There was a thunderstorm.
Speaker:It blew up his machine. I had no backup and I just decided to move on. So that's where so that's
Speaker:where my head is that when I'm thinking of a product tell me what are having going to
Speaker:go on functional tennis and I thought well, why don't we just start with a journal. It's a lot of
Speaker:cheap enough to ground gets people off their phones and so we launched with a match journal and then a
Speaker:year later we launched a practice journal. Then we launched a camera man in the meanwhile we used
Speaker:to post a video of a guy called Jonas Foretek. He was at the time 12. He went down to be the world
Speaker:number one junior, but it was him hitting with a wooden spoon and I posted a few times. I always did
Speaker:really well. And I was like never I never connected took me probably a year to connect to the dots.
Speaker:I was like why don't I try get that product and see what it's like see how useful it is. So I managed
Speaker:to find the guy who invented it. So it was invented in the Czech Republic and I managed to get one
Speaker:try it. I was like this is really good. So there was a there was actually European agent. So worldwide
Speaker:agent who looked after all the sales for the guy who developed it and I went to them. I ordered a
Speaker:batch and we sold out before they arrived. So that went for about three I think about three years
Speaker:it still go on air but it was copied and it was on Ali Baba. People in Eastern Europe were copying it
Speaker:and yeah that sort of killed the product from in the end. They were selling for half the price.
Speaker:We were selling the fur but ours was made from expensive European red oak. It was curated. You
Speaker:could leave them out in the rain for weeks. They weren't cracked so it was really high quality. But
Speaker:anyway so I could see I knew this wasn't gonna last and I always dreamt of how to put a product
Speaker:together. I had one with strings and so I started thinking of how how do I do that. So I was researching
Speaker:amount of factors and I was always missing the technical element. So probably took me a year to find
Speaker:somebody from a technical angle to work with and once I did it was for me it was relief. That was
Speaker:the hardest thing but I spent two weeks in Excel doing some working on Excel. This is the prototypes
Speaker:with cardboard so and I came to I built a product in cardboard with the help of a technical guy
Speaker:and then we did manufacture one of the best manufacturing in the world and we took it from there.
Speaker:So probably a year it took 16 months from the time I started working with him until we start
Speaker:selling it. I'm sorry for those that don't know the sabres it's a sweet spot train until we skipped
Speaker:right over that right? Yeah we skipped right over but it's it's a 37 square inch racket it's two
Speaker:inches shorter than a normal tennis racket and it has a smaller head size to replicate the sweet spot
Speaker:on most 27 inch rackets and it encourages people to obviously show them where the sweet spot is,
Speaker:where the contact point is started and basically a lot of people described it as a tool to get
Speaker:players' feet moving because your feet aren't working, nothing else gonna work and when the
Speaker:head size is small the ball's coming in quick you just gotta be you know you gotta be quick with
Speaker:your feet you gotta be in position early and that will allow you to hit the ball in the right place so
Speaker:ultimately we do it's a warm tool but it's really what work tool? Interesting you think of a you
Speaker:take you grab a bracket say hey we're gonna focus on hitting in this sweet spot and then maybe you
Speaker:learn after the fact that it ends up being by a footwork tool you say wait a minute this is supposed
Speaker:to be a sweet spot where you help me with my contact point what does this have to do with footwork
Speaker:and it's cool that you realize that eventually because that probably wouldn't be a thing you would
Speaker:have predicted. No we shouldn't know from the wooden spoon we did always knew it was a it was a
Speaker:it was a footwork footwork it was always involved in footwork if you're not moving your feet you're not
Speaker:gonna be able to do this and the spoon was even harder to do it but yeah it just we just heard
Speaker:a more more master we've a lot more saber users than the wooden spoon user so you know you get more
Speaker:feedback and think we've about like 850 reviews at this stage which are really positive and yeah so
Speaker:it's it's a bit forever every coach as I said we don't tell coaches we've no instructional manual
Speaker:on our website because we know coaches are opinionated they have their own way of doing things
Speaker:they don't like when another coach you know they might learn from their coach but sometimes
Speaker:they're way doing things and due to coach doesn't do it right so I didn't want to be the guy telling
Speaker:people how to use the saber because I don't think that would have helped me so we let everybody
Speaker:to use it definitely and that's where we get feedback and how people are using it in a more way
Speaker:they put it into their practice sessions and yes it's been really interesting to hear all that
Speaker:yeah Bobby we have no no idea what he's talking about with coaches going their own way and not
Speaker:listening to other coaches right never never heard of such a thing so Bobby you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker:love this thing and I'm sure you've got questions but I'm looking through with 37 square inches
Speaker:which it makes me think of the T2000 that I have every once in a while I go out and try to hit with it
Speaker:and that isn't 37 it feels like it's 37 square inches when I try to play with it but Bobby is this
Speaker:everything you've considered when we talked about this before to be able to say okay this is a tool
Speaker:that can help in many different ways well I'm old enough to remember when we actually played with 37
Speaker:I still think I have mine in my in the garage you know it's still under the the pressure to keep
Speaker:them from warping but yeah I mean it's it's amazing to watch and I've been laughing a bunch of times
Speaker:during this first of all you have to footwork in Atlanta they just don't go together that's the
Speaker:the pros make it where we we have the best drill players in the world we just don't have players that
Speaker:they translate into matches as much because they're used to the ball coming to them and obviously if
Speaker:the the sweet spot is smaller in the bracket shorter they're gonna have to compensate somehow
Speaker:a good place to start as the feet so that that's a great and a fun way to introduce footwork too
Speaker:this way you're not having to say you're doing footwork which the kids especially associate that is
Speaker:what we do wrong you're punishing us why we doing footwork now we want to make you but I sorry I just
Speaker:jump in it yeah it is like it's a phone tool so it has fun to the session and you're you're indirectly
Speaker:working on some of these game by just them having fun so it just backs up what you're saying there
Speaker:now the only the big problem I saw with it is you have Stan Warinka as a demo and the freaking guy
Speaker:doesn't miss at all I mean he just hit clean backhand after backhand as I go if you really want
Speaker:somebody to feel inefficient or lacking just watch this video it was amazing so I mean he hits it
Speaker:37 square inches clean as you can and just crushing not easing his way through the backhand
Speaker:just crushing the backhand it's like okay I can't do that we know we've another video of a US
Speaker:got Brandon Holt and he's absolutely playing a point with it and he's absolutely nailing the ball
Speaker:and he's side to side so it's not he's going from backhand corner forehand corner back so there's a lot
Speaker:of movement going on and he is just absolutely nail even some more quan at the South Korean player
Speaker:and a few videos of him absolutely look these are the best guys in the world for a reason they're good ball
Speaker:strikers they can they can strike a ball well with it with a baseball bat if they have to do just
Speaker:yeah they have everything and the racket doesn't matter what rackets in their hand but yeah that was
Speaker:impressive and and I'm still trying to get over I'm a big great uh Graham Norton fan and one of my
Speaker:favorite episodes of his show was Bill Murray Matt Damon and another actor talking about a fuzzy jumper
Speaker:so you nailed me and I was going back right away to that when you started talking about the jumper
Speaker:so I've been a little distracted but no and Graham Norton's Irish right I think he's an I
Speaker:Graham Norton yeah yeah he's our show he's war one of our war one of our jumpers at some stage I've
Speaker:pictures of him here somewhere I'm ready for a jump oh they did an episode and they were talking about
Speaker:and you know Bill Murray especially they never heard of a jumper let a lot of fuzzy jumper
Speaker:and it was just hysterical and it's famous for going viral because Matt Norton's I mean I'm sorry
Speaker:Matt Damon at the end of it said this is the most fun he'd ever had on a dog show so it was you
Speaker:blew up all over the internet but we I think we had their runs they were on Jimmy Kendall
Speaker:Saturday night live at one stage as well wonder actually like we did they were like the Kardashians
Speaker:had one there was they did pretty they got it we gave away a lot of them put it that way and
Speaker:which son I haven't done with the saver because you know you get known for giving away product and
Speaker:for me with functional tennis was important that we don't we look we have a price and that's the
Speaker:price and it's more or less the price for everybody and we we do give the owner of Federer Roger Federer's
Speaker:agent come knock on one for him you know we're a deal but we give away very few of these and that's
Speaker:helped us as well because it just makes my decision everybody gets the same answer yeah
Speaker:but it's not the Roger Federer can can't afford it like he needs a free one I mean
Speaker:that's it he doesn't order it he doesn't know as far as I know he doesn't have one but I just
Speaker:made kiffon one I don't know but yeah yeah that like the top guys get a lot of stuff for free I can only
Speaker:imagine and you've got to I say a swing stick but we've got something similar that swing vision is
Speaker:created to hang the the camera on the fence how did that come to be that just kind of seems
Speaker:unrelated but I guess you do a lot of video so it makes sense yeah no it made sense we
Speaker:actually when they first came out we were buying them actually from a small guy in the States that's
Speaker:where and then we developed our own version and it was just made sense because you know we are all
Speaker:video it's actually probably is the most sense product that we have because we what we do share a
Speaker:video we've shared over 11000 videos at this stage and you know if we can allow somebody you to
Speaker:easily record yourself playing tennis that it's easier for you to send me a video so it's actually
Speaker:a good product and yeah that's it an important product it's not our it's not our biggest seller
Speaker:always thought we would do a lot better with them but look they take away and yeah then I saw
Speaker:we were sort of in partnership with swing vision they were selling our product at one stage but then
Speaker:they're more recently they have their own swing stick which is sort of the same but different
Speaker:yeah they like to put their logo on things it's important I guess but yeah so in that case is that all it
Speaker:takes like I grab your tennis camera mount I video myself playing tennis and then you put it on your
Speaker:Instagram account is it that simple oh no it's not that same we do we get a lot more videos in that
Speaker:we put out like we put out four day treat treat the five a day on average four and yeah no it's
Speaker:quite hard we got my job is to curate if you ask me what's your job within the social account it's a
Speaker:curator so I pick what videos goes goes live we've relationships with so many players and coaches
Speaker:they'll have their own drop box folder they upload to whenever they want so videos come in all the time
Speaker:and yeah and then I then I might if we don't have a certain player I'll reach out to them
Speaker:ask them to create some video and then other times I might see a video online which I ask the person
Speaker:first we get in high in high quality so it's a mixture of some of our own content some content that
Speaker:just flows into its relationships we've built some new stuff I find and then sometimes we may
Speaker:post some ATP tour videos which we can do and if we work with some brands you may have some brand
Speaker:work also to throw out there okay so Bobby it sounds like he's doing a lot of fun stuff he gets to
Speaker:actually go to the events and video people using products we do a lot of we're getting into us to say
Speaker:we do a lot of in our minds we do we do a lot of we're getting into in person events here and having
Speaker:that mount is fantastic to be able to video yourself just to have something that convenient I bought
Speaker:eight or ten throughout the first few years of different types of things and the sticks really
Speaker:make a difference we really appreciate that but Bobby what else I know we've got we've talked about
Speaker:his podcast we've talked about the saber we've talked about the fence mounts you've got the the
Speaker:training journal tell me about that also I had a training journey they're just a match and practice
Speaker:journal so one for matches one for practice and it just gives players a framework on what to
Speaker:think about during the matches so what to think about before you play and what to evaluate afterwards
Speaker:and the same for the practice session so let us the plan better you know make sure they're getting
Speaker:their achievement there are many goals that they set and also to rate themselves and the coach then
Speaker:can have a look at it and see if what they wrote down and made sense to what he saw on court and
Speaker:that's basically it's just getting people away from their phone for three or four minutes think
Speaker:about your game your practice session planet out did you execute yes or no I'm walking you do better
Speaker:next time so you have to physically you have to physically write in the notebook so you you
Speaker:market to middle age people people right because the younger kids don't know how to write they just
Speaker:had to do things with their thumbs so maybe maybe it's it's a right until it's not a true
Speaker:to help them write does not even teach penmanship anymore in the United States person they don't
Speaker:write when cursive anymore so no it's that I do get told all the time why don't you have an app
Speaker:version of this an app version of this but I've just been it's just there's only so many things I can do
Speaker:and I'd like to do it at some stage but it's not it's not my plan the next six months to do
Speaker:oh Bob I just just say another vote of greed sorry Bobbier said Bobbien I'll both agree getting them
Speaker:off the phone it matters I think it helps or that's that's a great target to have so put off the app
Speaker:as long as you can make a music so I think it's fantastic yeah absolutely because go get water
Speaker:translates into go check your phone I look it's the same for adults as well not only kids you can't
Speaker:just blame the kids I'm probably the most guilty every time you stop it's like I'll check my phone
Speaker:you go next thing it's yeah it's I recognize as a problem for myself and it's not only children
Speaker:that are doing this adults are just as bad well Bobby got anything else for for Fabio before
Speaker:yeah what is what is the retail on the saber you know saber is somebody selling their state
Speaker:no well we we've a few retailers spread around the world not too many but most sales like I think
Speaker:45% for sales go to the US 5% to Canada and it retails it's like 150 euros which is about
Speaker:160 dollars the pen the FX changes changes all the time to roughly 160 dollars and shipping is
Speaker:you can get it the 8 to 12 day which is like 10 dollars you can get the 80 in dollar the two-day
Speaker:shipping so we've options there and then the great thing about the states is you can import up to
Speaker:800 dollars a day without any duty from Europe so there's no extra what you pay there's no extra
Speaker:charges some people may be scared getting from Europe going to be extra charges but there's not
Speaker:which works really good for us definitely if we if I get stuff from the states we're charged like
Speaker:25% on top of what it costs so it's great that I can ship to the states and
Speaker:do customers don't pay any extra which is amazing no sales tax no any of that it's just all in the
Speaker:price and that's it all right so once say yeah I see 165 currently and then you got a combo with the
Speaker:saber and the the magic mount which at 215 that's good you sell some spring to go with it I can get
Speaker:them the wooden spoon for just less than 90 and the in the practice journal that's great but then I
Speaker:think like you said I said you're most known for this saber I think that's just in my mind because
Speaker:I found you years ago because of that but looking into your looking into your Instagram and your
Speaker:podcast it looks like that's a that's a lot that's been going on longer and definitely well known there
Speaker:which is impressive so I will say well done because we're we're talking to as many people as we can
Speaker:in the industry to find out what you're doing but also sometimes you know what that success
Speaker:what it takes now you said it's a slow crawl sometimes I think that was crazy trying to
Speaker:trying to get where you need to be we've posted every day since 2016 every day so that's what's that
Speaker:eight it's eight years now so eight by it's like 2700 days in a row that's what that's what I've done
Speaker:it's and it's a mental drain by doing I but hopefully hopefully one day I'll have you know some
Speaker:the help of me you know you always wake up the cost of these things at time and but yeah it's
Speaker:me that does all that and it's been a drain. I told you I'm on holidays with the family but look I
Speaker:enjoy doing it and it's yeah it's great sometimes you know you can look you see a player breaking true
Speaker:and you're like well we posted a video we communication with them seven years ago and so you can
Speaker:track back some videos and so I think we're building relationships with players that'll be really
Speaker:good in the future that sounds good but I mean we're good to go what's one you always have something
Speaker:left yeah one left just curiosity who's purchasing the saver is it more coaches more individuals
Speaker:resort I mean I love this is a resort thing you know an academy obviously but I'm curious how
Speaker:how motivated do you get the individual it's really a mixture like I just sorry I got an email
Speaker:from somebody there saying they recommended by Ernie at La Quinta in California so that's a resort
Speaker:which so that's who's just bought I know like parents have bought today I know coaches buy so parents
Speaker:will buy for their kids the younger kids coaches will buy to have them in academies and sometimes
Speaker:the same academy the player will buy so it's you know it's really a mixture which makes it really
Speaker:hard to pinpoint and say you know what coaches buy it and that's it but no it's really it's a mixture
Speaker:it's parents coaches and they're made like I just saw a fancy European resort has got one there but
Speaker:that's not wouldn't be performance it would be just be like and people on holiday so the coach has one
Speaker:there it's really sometimes like a federation may buy a few like they may buy a few or cat it's
Speaker:really a mixture anybody that is involved in competing tennis players will want to buy one
Speaker:so you know competing tennis players maybe in federation academies private coaches
Speaker:and so anybody and we ship we've done like I think 90 countries at this stage so we ship
Speaker:a US obviously our biggest one then the UK Germany France Canada Italy Australia and then spread
Speaker:it throughout the world sounds like it's going well and then you know what what's next what's
Speaker:better we'll we'll have to follow up at some point we'll we'll find you in a year and see you know
Speaker:what's next yeah just survive and keep coming out the content and look we release the edition
Speaker:version of the saber we do like a grand slam editions we're from each city and this year we've
Speaker:we've we like we did a midnight one people go mad for black brackets and we also we're celebrating
Speaker:a million followers this year we're going to be launching a special saber edition so we do
Speaker:these special editions along the way and we do have like along with the mid after we launch the
Speaker:mid then I launched a lighter version so more for kids 13 14 15 and and then we also have a junior
Speaker:version which is an even shorter again for kids six to 10 yeah that's I'm online right now we're
Speaker:in one I need one for my two-year-old oh well let's do that I can't guarantee we've won for two
Speaker:year olds but I come back in a few years and we'll have one but yeah so look we're working on
Speaker:another exciting project a minute but it's taken a lot longer than I taught so I don't know if
Speaker:it's even got a comb to fruition so hopefully next year I could have some good news with that which
Speaker:allow me to expand a bit more okay new products something fancy I thought f 37 or something
Speaker:should you be like the 37,000 or something exciting fft 37 was their whole name for the saber
Speaker:okay I thought that was the thing coming out that was development name for the saber so and I
Speaker:was going to go on it and then came up with the saber I just thought the saber such a better name
Speaker:and I think the name can help a product as well and it it did help but so yeah I'm glad I went
Speaker:to it and we've much a trend there yeah on the choice yeah I like that a lot so okay I keep asking
Speaker:Bobby he's got one more he always does we're good we're good so I'm gonna hit you unexpected this time
Speaker:with our king of tennis question so Fabio if you were king of tennis whether it's the whole world
Speaker:whether it's just Ireland the UK the United States anything social ATP WTA do you have any ideas
Speaker:is there anything that you would do or change when it comes to tennis I'd love to relocate Ireland to
Speaker:the the Mediterranean or somewhere in Europe so we could start to help tennis players not have
Speaker:excuses for weather indoor courts but you know bad surfaces so maybe relocate Ireland to central
Speaker:to Europe would be amazing but no realistically look I think tennis is about having more fun but also
Speaker:these guys and girls who are out there like spend and I've seen the top junior guys were
Speaker:nothing's guaranteed and they put so much into it so much money into it and I think five or six
Speaker:I know men five or six players enter top 100 every year there's not only five or six new people
Speaker:making money every year in tennis so I definitely think more you know change up the whole structure of
Speaker:the ATP and WTA which allows be it lead based I'm not too sure exactly but to let look people to
Speaker:300 to earn more money to make like even an average wage but it's something a bit more than that
Speaker:it's very tennis's top heavy that heavy as we all know I don't need to be I don't need to be saying
Speaker:them but something that would allow the players open-come players who will eventually break true I hope
Speaker:but they all don't some get injured but at least to to finish their tennis journey with something a
Speaker:bit more to show for it rather than just some good stories stuck in hotels and train stations and
Speaker:all that so I just think to divide the wealth a bit more would be nicer
Speaker:Bobby I think we've heard similar things recently where as people are looking for something a little
Speaker:different a little sorry I'm 100 to 300 range somebody to keep that some thing to keep them going to
Speaker:keep them in the game yeah look at the takes a look you know even if you're a junior it could take
Speaker:70 80 hundred thousand dollars a year to fund your when you're 14 15 16 and it's even more than when
Speaker:you're you know seven you're trying to break true if you don't go to college and yeah just
Speaker:something to reward these a bit more the ones there's a lot of ones that aren't so serious so you
Speaker:trying to figure out which are serious but maybe if there's some cash there for them they are a
Speaker:bit more serious and let them do better it's it's it's definitely hard and you know these come
Speaker:now with the wind the futures come out at paycheck for 1500 2000 dollars and the weeks after cost
Speaker:you that to come and out with like 20 or 30 dollars is the neck gain and the challenges isn't much
Speaker:challenges a little bit better but you know they're not winning every week and yeah it's not like a
Speaker:broken record player here but I think that's one of the more important things to change and a lot more
Speaker:should be done about it Bobby can I tell him to come with us a solution next next year we'll come
Speaker:hey look I like the idea that's great but don't come to me with problems come to me with a solution
Speaker:they're good like we said this is a common theme right now and I think it's it's great to continue
Speaker:to people here because most people here are professional and they associate money and probably if
Speaker:you had to look at all of sports tennis has the least amount of people making money I mean look
Speaker:at what the average NBA player the average and you know major league baseball player makes like
Speaker:you said you got 20 50 or maybe a hundred tennis players mounted thing now making a good living
Speaker:out of how many it's not a lot I'm saying tall you might get like 45 50 doubles guys
Speaker:Geralt that's a hundred and then 80 90 like 300 players max making it like you're better off being a coach
Speaker:are you are yeah are the coach we are traveling or be it because the coach still getting paid
Speaker:right or have your own academy or just run a little nice private clinic in in the state somewhere
Speaker:that can do quite well so okay it's it's tough it's tough and yeah my solution I don't have one
Speaker:right now maybe I can't come back wait one but definitely involves the ATP and the WCA getting
Speaker:together and trying to sort this out figure something out all right so next year this we're going to
Speaker:do I mean email you say hey what's the solution because and I push back a lot on I need to
Speaker:get tennis answers to say hey you come and say hey we need to fix something but you're the king so
Speaker:it's on you you got to figure out how to fix it and maybe sometimes we come up with good ideas
Speaker:sometimes we don't I'm not at the I'm not at the level the LC if we were a very big successful
Speaker:company I would like to have like the functional tennis funds where we help junior you know we
Speaker:pick juniors every year we distribute some cash to help cover some of their costs that's what I
Speaker:that's what I would like to do to help these players around the world I'm not sure things
Speaker:are always a difficult situation who do you pick how do you pick and I think that's hard but deep
Speaker:down that's what I'd love to do would be find a way that have a fund where we can support players
Speaker:and you know help them get closer to their dreams that's fantastic Bobby we're in that's a great
Speaker:it's for vets now it's not for juniors for for the ITF vet you know hey time off work so we
Speaker:cover the cost when you're not working exactly there you go well Fabio I appreciate your time this has
Speaker:been fantastic we will make sure to get the word out and we're gonna talk about the saber we're
Speaker:talking about functional tennis the podcast and everything you're doing and I'm gonna like I said
Speaker:I'm gonna follow up we're gonna see if we can figure something out I love that dream of the
Speaker:functional tennis fund to be able to help those that that need a little a little extra a little
Speaker:extra bit there or Bobby and I have been approached by a few people recently about some other ideas
Speaker:as to how to help and what happens next but we will be in touch I appreciate it Bobby is always thank
Speaker:you and uh Fabio thank you so much I appreciate your time thanks y'all to Bobby preset it
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