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AI Social Media Marketing for Small Businesses with Hello Woofy Founder Arjun Rai
Episode 2622nd October 2021 • Mesmerizing Marketing™ • Dimple Dang
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Welcome to the mesmerizing marketing podcast, where we take a deep dive

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into the latest marketing trends, tools, and tips, and provide you with

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the top resources you need to thrive and make your marketing mesmerized.

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And now here's your host dimple.

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Dang.

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Hello, everyone.

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This is dimple again, and I'm so excited today to be here with Arjun wri.

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He is the founder of hello Woofy and I'm so excited to be interviewing him

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today cause I've actually seen him around clubhouse and I've been wanting

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to have him as a guest and magic.

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I get an email in my inbox saying that he would make a great guest on

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the mesmerizing marketing podcast and you ask and you shall receive

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because here he is so welcome.

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Thank you.

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And I really appreciate it then bull and I do believe in the law of attraction

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and the secret and things like that.

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So yes, I have seen you all around clubhouse.

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I think we've, comodified a couple of stages together as well, but if this

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was meant to be the universe, wanted us to talk about the future of marketing.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I am, you know, in marketing myself, and I'm also kind of

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a, tech nerd and afterwards.

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I research new apps on the app store and see what can help people

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be more efficient and save time and do all kinds of cool things.

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So that's why, I'm so honored that you're here because more so than anything

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is, is also a learning experience for me, because I've been meaning

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to actually sign up for hello movie.

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Yeah, it's like, if I can have a better understanding of exactly

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what I can do, that would be great.

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So let's start with this.

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Let's start with back back in the day.

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Maybe it wasn't that long ago, , let's start with your background,

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before, hello, we'll be like, tell us a little bit about yourself.

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Like who you are, what you did by.

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So, very much a rebel from a very young age.

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I remember back in India, , at our Indian wedding, I was like, why are

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all these flowers being thrown around?

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And so I, for your listeners who haven't been to an Indian wedding we can use

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a lot of flowers, like a lot, like a city's worth of flowers at one wedding.

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And so.

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I was like, why are we throwing these out?

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So I ended up taking a couple of those flowers and turning those into like

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Hawaiian garlands and selling those for 25 cents of my grandmother's gate.

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Now the issue was I was in India and my grandmother's gate.

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No one knows what 25 sentences it's a different currency, but I was

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selling it for a quarter anyways.

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And so it was just, I was always trying to figure out how could I sell something?

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How could I.

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Make an extra buck on the side.

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And there are a couple of other stories in my childhood where I definitely

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drove my mom and saying, I was like, why can't he just do studies?

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Always, you always have to sell something fast forward.

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I did four startups today.

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Two of them have been venture backed and hello Wolfie was really designed out

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of the frustration and the inability to do a lot of the things that you know,

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we're going to be talking about today easily, which in the realm of digital.

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And so whether it was in a, it was a startup I did in high school

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or an agency I did in college or a project management startup.

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I built in college towards the end as well, coming up with the right

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content, coming out the right emojis and hashtags and find the right images.

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It's a full-time job.

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It's a full-time job to be a social media manager.

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Now, if you're going to be a solopreneur or if you're running a

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coffee shop or a coaching business, not only are you a social media

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manager, you're the accountant.

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Person, right.

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The finance person and the operations person and so on and so forth.

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So yeah, it's out of that frustration.

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I was like, okay, not only every going to help other rebels, other

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underdogs, you know, really take power into their own hands, but we're

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going to do it at a price point that is equivalent to a cup of coffee.

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And, and help them with social media automation.

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Now, since then since, building all these startups, we, we realized

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that blogging was a big deal.

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Especially last year when people are Googling, you

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searching for a year services.

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If you didn't come up in the first three, you know, three pages.

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And so a lot of the business owners, we now work with, last

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year, they're like, what is blogging?

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What is content marketing?

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So we built a product around that.

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And then now we can talk about social audio and clubhouse and smart speakers.

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That's really the feature.

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And yet very few people are talking about it.

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Yeah.

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First of all, I love that you were literally born an entrepreneur because

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you were very entrepreneurial, even from a young age, you knew what you wanted, you

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went after it, you wanted to make money.

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You know, you're like, Hey, I'd rather make money than sit in a class in school.

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Like I know what to do.

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And I feel like I was kind of the same way.

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But I think it comes from a young age.

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That's, really great because when it comes from a young age, it just really

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fuels you to do more, to create more and to have that creativity, which

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I think is really, really important when you are, a founder of a company.

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There's so many companies out there that already do similar things when

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it comes to, social media platforms, there's like a dozen of them because.

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I do social media managements.

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I've probably used a lot of them and, you know, I think.

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What you've done is you combined artificial intelligence.

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And I think that's the part that intrigues me the most , because I'm really seeing

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artificial intelligence everywhere.

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There's apps, like, jarvis.ai and they can write your

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content and there's other apps.

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And I'm just like, you know, I'm impressed.

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And I think that's the way of the future.

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So I want, to hear a little bit about, , like the concept and how.

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I you came up with that.

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Yeah.

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So, so just on that topic, I mean , during our sales calls and we do sales calls with

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a whole bunch of small business owners and they always ask this question is can

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I, can the platform do everything for me?

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And the answer is not exactly because there's going to be a day of reckoning.

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There's going to be a judgment day for all these other companies that are

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saying, just sit back type a little bit, and they'll just automatically spit out.

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Journalistic upper level quality article.

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Well, the issue is that once you get so many robots talking to each other

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and posting on, the platforms, the platforms are gonna catch on very quickly.

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For example, Twitter, doesn't like similar content.

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They don't like duplicated content.

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That's a terms and conditions thing you have to deal with.

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And a lot of the platforms they want to make sure that.

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Person the user is at the center of all the posting.

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It's not just, regurgitating the same thing automatically creating the content.

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Then, you know, robots talking to robots because that affects their

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advertising model affects their engagement and so on and so forth.

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So there is going to be a day of reckoning along those lines.

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Now we appreciate the auto capabilities that create content creation that, , a

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lot for that other companies are doing, but they're also using open

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source IP called GPT three or GPT.

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And, and it's not really IP that they've built inherently that has

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been designed specifically for the needs of a business owner or a

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small business owner or an underdog.

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So in our case, we just received a patent about a month ago, actually,

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literally the day after my birthday that allowed us to protect the IP around.

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When you start typing a piece of content, it automatically starts

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suggesting additional words.

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The rest of the word that you're typing automatically.

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And then it says, okay, these are the words that we recommend.

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But then these are the hashtags that we recommend based on that, based on

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the data that we've seen, hundreds of millions of times being used again and

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again, but the most important part of that is the whole science of emojis.

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Now I was on a TV episode a couple of months ago, and I said, Emojis

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are the modern hieroglyphics were all cavemen at the end of the day.

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And studies show over and over again, that when you use the right emojis or

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emojis to begin with it drives engagement.

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It drives purchase intent.

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It drives open rates and their whole slew of benefits.

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But the only issue is that again, if you're that coffee shop owner, that coach

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and a podcast, or you do not have the time to go through 3,200 emojis, figure out

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which ones to use, that's what you end up using the same finger gestures, the

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same faces, the same the same vegetables.

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And that's not very helpful.

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that is so true.

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I was actually asking people like, Hey, what's the URL for the emoji

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dictionary because sometimes people use emojis and I'm, you know,

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quite familiar with most of them.

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What on earth does this emoji mean?

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Right.

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But I think it makes social media and way more fun.

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And I think it's way people engage more with posts that do have emojis in them.

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And that's tried and true.

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Like even in my clubhouse rooms, I always put emojis, if it's podcasting

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room, I'll put a podcasting emoji and then throw on a little smiley face.

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Cause we want people to be happy when they come to the.

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Yeah.

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, and, and just to highlight for what we're talking about, this is one example.

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And so for viewers, we're listing in what I'm showing dimple is an example of a,

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what is known as a complex network graph.

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I just typed in a simple sentence, like, how are you?

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And of course we love you and like coffee, but then you, all you notice is how

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language is being actually formulated.

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We're looking at three different versions.

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One is the emojis, hashtags and words.

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How do they, co-exist in the world of social media?

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So you can see love does well with heart, which what does well with

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these emojis over here on the left side and in heart does really well

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with another hashtag like quote.

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So when you expand and you take a look at the entire world of language

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and how it's formulated in real time, it's very, very captivating.

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And so as soon as you come into our platform, we say, okay, Just start typing.

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Don't feel the over what don't feel overwhelmed that you have to

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come up with the perfect content.

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Just start typing.

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We can see it starting to suggest content for you.

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I'm gonna use the same example for consistency.

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And then of course I love my.

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And then we will notice those emojis being recommended below like coffee or

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the the sign here, what the, the hearts and the eyes, the point is it's giving

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you those recommendations based on data.

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And then we're also tracking what emojis are being used in real time.

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So now for your, for again, for your listeners who are tuning in.

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Different kinds of emojis flickering and they're flickering on different

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paces because some of them are more popular than the other ones.

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And you can now have data at your fingertips to see what

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is popular, what's trending.

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And if you don't have an image, we'll find royalty free images or

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memes and gifts for you, depending on what you typed in so far.

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And if those images have words in them, it'll automatically transcribe

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the the words for you as well.

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So there's a lot of capabilities baked in, but the point is the small business

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owner doesn't have a degree in all the.

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Intricate, marketing techniques.

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We, it should just do it for you then and think of focusing on storytelling.

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Absolutely.

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I mean, I love that.

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I love all of those features because you know, small business owners, they

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don't really know much about social media and most of them actually

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have to hire someone to do it.

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But the issue sometimes with small business owners, They can't afford

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to pay someone else to do it, or they don't have a marketing budget.

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And when you can't afford to do it, you really need to learn how to do it

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yourself, but you need the resources and the technology and platforms

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to, make it so simple and fun.

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Even that, that you want to spend time.

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You want to allocate like that one or two hours on your calendar and say,

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I'm going to work on my social media posts and, like the example you shared,

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like that was for like a Google post.

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And I'm like, well, I never even thought about putting emojis in a Google post.

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Like that's mine.

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Yeah.

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And it's just those little things that can really help you out and

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make it not only more delightful, but just simpler and more powerful.

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So one of the things we always have something crazy being built behind

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the scenes as our special project.

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So one of the things that we have currently being built, which

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is very crazy is an augmented reality version of the platform.

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So you can literally have your.

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But the w you know, before you, and you can see visually what contents about to

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go out, what content is ready to go out, what content is sitting in your library.

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And if you think any of these posts should be going out immediately,

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well, then you just tap on the post before you, and you can say fired

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off to Instagram, and then you go to Instagram and it's already there,

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or Facebook and Twitter and whatnot.

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So the point is how can we help those small business owners?

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And this is an augmented reality version, obviously for you, for your listeners.

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The point is, how can we help.

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Business owner who's stuck at home.

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Quarantine, has a different way of working today.

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How can we allow their sphere of work to become very, very fun and also

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do a screen share with your client.

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They're going to be blown away that you get there.

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You'll be able to show an augmented reality, how the campaign's been going,

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what posts have gone out like a visual timeline and you can literally just

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walk around and say, Hey client, Hey.

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This is what I've done in the last few weeks.

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And this is the content there, and this is what's coming out in the future.

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If you don't like it, we can just tap on the X and deleted and then tap on

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it and have a schedule immediately.

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It's just a different way of, visualizing metrics and how well we're doing as.

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Yeah.

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And I have to say, Arjun just showed me that and it was actually mind blowing.

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I was impressed.

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It looks so cool.

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And on top of it, is it correct that post can be scheduled

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in advance even on Instagram

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so long as you have a business profile on Instagram, because there

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are different versions of Instagram.

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You can have a personal profile and then a professional profile, which subdivides

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into a creator and a business profile.

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So you want to have a professional business profile.

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And as long as you do that, feed posts are fully.

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So long as they are one-to-one ratio or four to five ratio in size

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stories are still semi-automated.

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I'm sure at some point Instagram is going to open up the entire

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platform to be automated.

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But like I said, these platforms are making sure that

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you are at the core of it.

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You're creating the content you're suggesting and whatnot,

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and, there, there's definitely going to be a day where, you have.

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Technology to prevent full automation.

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And so in our platform, for example, because we know Twitter, doesn't like

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similar content or duplicated content coming out, we are the only ones.

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And we filed a ponder on those that tells you how similar is your content,

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so that you don't shoot yourself in the foot going , scheduling again to Twitter.

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And those are those little piece of technology that saves so much

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headache for that small business owner.

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Okay, amazing.

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And what about if Put some posts out there and we want to reshare

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that post, a few weeks later.

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Is there a button to do that?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So we have a concept called a library and we have a categorized

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categorization systems that essentially, when you go into a library, you say

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this is going to be my blog posts.

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These are going to be any motivational content is going to

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be content for my Facebook group.

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And we have about 50 pieces of content give or take in our Facebook

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category, Facebook group category con for our group called content masters.

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And we just reshare it.

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Piece of the content again and again, some of it is about how to use the platform.

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So it is about, tips for small businesses.

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You know, some of them are motivational quotes and so yes, when you click on

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the post itself, you have an option.

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Do you want to send it off immediately or ahead of time?

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And then that, and they can come back to do.

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I mean, that is an amazing feature because it saves so much time.

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, let's go back to talk about blogging for a moment, because I love to talk about that.

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Creating content is so important nowadays.

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And one of the best ways to create content is through blog posts.

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So like when we create blog posts for clients, like I have a whole

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content team, they write specifically for different practice niches.

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Like if I have lawyers.

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We have content writers that are former lawyers or paralegals, or

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they have a degree in journalism and, whenever we're creating all this

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content, I'm creating it strategic.

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For SEO purposes, search engine optimization so that it has the

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ability to rank on page one of Google.

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And when we create this content, we also want to share it on social media.

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But if I've been creating content for someone for a while, Like the same article

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can be shared over a period of time, again, and I think it's really important.

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Like this makes a process so easy.

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I'm actually blown away by even what I've heard so far, that this

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is only, and you can say what the low prices in case it changes.

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And I don't want to say the wrong thing because it's like blows my

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mind, why you would offer this.

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So Mega cost-effectively, , because you're literally being such a nice

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entrepreneur, like you're totally sharing and caring because I know how much

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other platforms cost and I'm going to be honest with the audience right now.

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They don't even do one fourth of what, how long will he does, do any of these.

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Oh, and, and again, we have a lot of respect for our competitors, but if

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you take a look at them, especially the biggest ones in the, in the

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industry, they're all about enterprise.

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They're all about focusing on enterprise.

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They don't even care where they got started, which was

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SMB or small businesses.

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And one of our biggest competitors, they grew from a billion dollars in market

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cap to nearly 6 billion, you know, six X over the last, year and a half or so.

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And that was because digital marketing became such a big topic.

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But when you think of T take a look at their prices to Europe, Exorbitant prices

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capabilities one 10th of what we can do.

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So like, to your point, if you're doing a lot of content marketing,

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obviously I'm sharing my screen now for, for your listeners who are tuning

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in, all I'm going to do is pace in an article like the one about emojis.

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And what you'll notice is that it actually will read the article

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for me so that I can come up with something thought provoking a quote.

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It gives me a series of quotes, you know, I can throw.

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And then at the end of it, I can also throw in a couple of hashtags that were

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generated based on the article itself.

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Now, if I want to summarize the article, all I have to do is

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pace in the article, a URL or a paragraph from the article itself.

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And then what we'll do is actually read the entire article for me and

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say, okay, this is what we think would be a good synopsis or could

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summary of the entire article.

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And then throw that into your social media posts.

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So now you have a capability of having your best friend, obviously

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the theme of a dog here, and it will automatically suggest content for

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you and throw that in here as well.

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So the point is at the end of the day, if all of these pieces of technologies can

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help you out so easily, then just click, click, click, and you're good to go.

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Now on top of that, it's also giving you emoji recommendations.

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As you can see here, if I want to pull in the articles image, just

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throw that image in here and it'll get the image for me as well.

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And I can throw that in here.

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And then based off that image, it'll find more hashtags, more emojis as well.

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And that's it.

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Click, click, click, and you're good.

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Oh my God.

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That's absolutely amazing.

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I love that because I mean, it takes the work out of it.

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It takes the thought process out of it.

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Then if you want to edit it a little bit, you can go in and edit it and

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I have a lot of respect for small businesses because I've worked with

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them for many years and , sometimes it's a struggle, especially.

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With what we've gone through with the pandemic, it's hard.

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Right?

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And they don't have a lot of budget, but they do need to grow.

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They need, they definitely need to be active on social media and this

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makes it like such a seamless process.

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So I love that here's the binder, the summary, which I didn't

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actually add into the post.

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Emojis have come a long way since they were created in 1980s.

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But they're still very much part of our daily lives.

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And I can throw that in.

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And have a synopsis plus a quote.

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And I'm good to go.

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That is so cool.

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A little bit of history right there.

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ma.

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Brain is going off and like ideas right now.

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And I'm a podcaster and I, teach other people how to launch their

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own podcasts and help them get launched and stuff like that.

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And I do a lot of rooms on podcasting and I also do a lot of rooms on podcasts

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marketing, because I always tell people like you can't just launch a podcast.

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And expect to get a ton of traffic.

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It's really important that you have a strategic marketing

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plan to promote your episodes.

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Right?

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So I am like having all of these light bulbs go off on how maybe podcasters

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can use the movie, even , if they take their show notes and they put them into

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like a document and then now that's the link and it's going to formulate, Hey,

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maybe this can be, you know, the topic.

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And especially , it can pick up different, things that might make a good quote.

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Right.

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And when you have a podcast episode, You want to share it multiple times.

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, quotes, or something that the person said that was really, tremendous

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value that should be shared.

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And I think this takes the whole, process out of doing

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it manually, doing it manually.

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I can take a lot of work.

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It can take a lot of time because some podcasts episodes are an hour long.

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And if you listened to them manually, which sometimes, , people have to do

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to edit them the right way, edit them when you need detailed show notes,

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you know, you do have to listen to it because you have to get the context

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of the words and then you have to be able to convey what's, the important,

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like the questions, the answers in a.

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Blog format, that's easy and consumable for the audience.

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So I'd love that, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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And if you have any specific ideas on how podcasters can use hallelujah.

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Well, this actually goes into the other thing we were talking before

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the show, which is social audio marketing and smart speaker marketing.

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And, and like I said we realized that social media is like the lowest

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hanging fruit and has to be perfected.

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It has to be intelligent and then blogging after that.

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But one of the things that we realized last year is that there's

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just so many smart speakers.

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I mean, I have to be next to them.

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I have actually three next to me.

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I have 11 in my house, but the point is that there are so many around the world.

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They're nearly half a billion that an ecosystem like this one.

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And I'm about to show you just doesn't, isn't easy to access for small businesses.

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So you're seeing a typical living room scene where there's a fire TV.

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There's a couple of smaller speakers in the living room, right?

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The only apps you see on the top left are the YouTubes and the

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Netflix and the Hulu's of the world.

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But we know that there are so many, there are hundreds of millions of

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devices called smart speakers and smart speaker marketing is on the rise.

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So then why are we not at the core of it like podcasters or coffee shops?

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So this is actually a video demo that I always, you know, show, which is an

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example of my living room in New York.

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And again, all the apps you see here are multibillion-dollar broadcasting apps, but

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you don't see Joe coffee shop on there, or you don't see dimples, marketing,

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mesmerizing tips and tricks on here.

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And it's because it's very, very expensive to create an app or a skill

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for these devices and then have the infrastructure and the, the ability to

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broadcast have advertising or links and things like it just very, very difficult.

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So what we did is that.

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Why don't we actually start working with the Alexa team and make it so

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simple that you and I can create an app or a scale in two seconds.

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So all you have to do is tell us your title while the app or

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skill the background, the colors, the logos, all of that stuff.

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And then once Amazon approves you, this is a skill that we, we got approved for.

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Hello, Wolfie.

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And then you can start, you can be like, Hey, this is simple.

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This is the one-on-ones on a Monday on how to get the maximum out of

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clubhouse in terms of marketing.

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And if you want to learn more, click on the link to the left on

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your television or your smart.

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And join my two-day masterclass, where me and Gary Vaynerchuck are

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going to show you exactly how to blow away your audience on social audio.

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Well then guess what?

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The customer can click on the link and go to your website in this case,

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it's hello, Wolfie and subscribe, or buy and convert and, sign up

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what they, whatever they want to do.

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But this is happening on the television.

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Now it works really well on the smart speakers as well.

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The one that.

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Touch friendly.

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They're called echo shows.

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They're all a lot of different variations, but the point is, you can tap your

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way through, you can buy on the speaker and it just made it so simple to, to be

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able to get directly to that customer.

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Now it's we call it DTC broadcasting direct to consumer broadcasting.

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Okay.

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And now I am like totally blown away like Mike girl.

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Honestly, , and the thing is I am actually an educated consumer.

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About Alexa skills and all that, because I do have a client

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that has some very prominent podcasts and that's what they do.

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And that's what they talk about.

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And they even do like once a day, , releases about Alexa

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skills and how to build different skills for different things.

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Now, I haven't dived into building any of my own skills, but what

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you just laid out right there.

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I'm like, okay, sign me up.

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Where do I get the information?

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Is there a video to watch to learn how to do this stuff?

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How do we know.

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Because I'm like that is cutting edge technology And that's what we say on our

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sales calls is that we want the customer at the center of not only the content

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creation when it comes to using the platform, but when it comes to building

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our company from the very beginning, we said, equity crowd funding should

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be, are a part of our business model.

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And we haven't, you may have spoken about this on clubhouse a few times.

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The reason why equity crowdfunding is a part of our business model is because

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not only can the dimples of the world.

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By our software for 49, a year, 99, a year, up to 49 a year,

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depending on what plan you want.

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But then you can invest in the company as low as a hundred bucks, get

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ownership and have a, you know, have a sense of ownership in the company

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because you have a promise to shares.

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And then if you become an affiliate, you potentially could make a little

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bit or all of that investment back and still have the upside.

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So eventually as we scale and we grow, we've already tripled our

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valuation in the last few years.

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You can also win right alongside us.

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Now, I don't know any of our competitors that give shares away or

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give, mentorship and coaching calls.

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If you have that baked into our product or really care about where the small business

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owner is coming from, because they don't have a degree in this field, we take those

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or a Facebook group to listen to them.

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We take all of those little touch points very seriously.

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So obviously if you want to learn more, go to dot com slash hello Wolfie, and

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anyone can invest as low as a hundred.

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And I will add that link in the show notes, but I mean,

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I think it's amazing though.

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You put so much thought into how you run your business and what

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you offer because you're right.

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I went on the website, I saw that.

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And I haven't seen anyone else, that I know of do that.

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And I think that's impressive because you really are making the community a part of

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what you're creating and you're bringing them in as a community to be inclusive.

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And you're asking for their feedback and you're also.

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Going above and beyond to really onboard them and coach them.

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Because when I look on your website, you know, people can schedule a demo.

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So if they're like overwhelmed by social media, which a lot of maybe small

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business owners are, you know, they can schedule a demo and they can get an entire

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walkthrough and they'll understand what the capabilities are of hello, Wolfie

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and what it can do and how they can use.

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Specifically also, for their unique needs, because there's so many

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different functions and, features of it, but they just need to figure out

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what's gonna work best for, for their business model and their business.

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Right.

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So, let's talk about those.

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What are some of the platforms that are integrated within that they can share

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to on social media, which platforms are.

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So Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram there are like the, the

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core and Tik TOK are the core social media integrations that are currently

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available and all the roadmap is actually right in our settings page so that our

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customers can see what we're working on.

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What is further along in terms of development and also integrations

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like Snipley or a wave video.

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Those are coming down the road as well.

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So.

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And it's not just the social media side.

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We have Shopify on the, in the works as well.

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So you can automate your blog posts there.

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And then as far as entertainment's concern, obviously Alexa capabilities

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are already there, but then we're thinking about doing YouTube Twitch.

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We're seeing a lot of people who are also in clubhouse.

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They they're also Twitch influencers.

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So creating a little module on their profiles, where they can sell

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and schedule content is going to be very, very important for them.

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Google my business just came out a couple of months ago in our platform as well.

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So we're listening to our customers and clients.

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My whole, my whole motto is do 90% of your spend 90% of your time, or,

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resources and things, really well.

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Like social media, for example, and then 10% or 15% of your time and things that

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have, you know, moonshots essentially.

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And that's where Alexa came out.

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That's where our Google Chrome extension came out of.

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The augmented reality application is in that we have a couple

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of other things as well.

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So that's how we divvy up our resources and continues to listen.

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That is really exciting.

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I'm curious to know, building this out and just, presenting your concept to

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investors and you know, when you're trying to raise money and letters of, of the, I

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guess, objections that you got, that you had to overcome to get to where you are.

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Yeah, it's a, it's funny, no matter how much money you're making month

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over month, there's, there's always an investor or two that wants more.

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But And at the end of the day, we're looking for investors who have conviction.

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They are able to write checks.

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They actually want to write checks.

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And, and they want to be part of something that is just categorically different.

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And we've been very blessed to see raised nearly 1.3 million so far in funding, more

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than well over half of that came through.

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The public markets, who are our customers and through equity crowdfunding.

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So we're very proud of that.

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And I think that's going to be the way we continue doing things,

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letting our customers invest, letting them be the biggest voices.

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But we were very fortunate to have a couple of funds invested, a

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couple of angel investors as well.

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And the constantly we're always asked, you know, how fast can you grow?

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How can I add more fuel to the flame?

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And we're telling them we're already up.

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I think it was 63% month over month.

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63.7% month over month as a pride.

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Now the second, cause we got a few hundred dollars in sales while I was

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on the call or I'm on this podcast.

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And so that's what we're looking for is, how do we tell

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investors that this is working?

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We need more capital to make it work even faster and then

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reduce the timeline for success.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes you need more con commitment or conviction than, than others.

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I think that's a great formula though.

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And congrats on that.

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Because that is huge for some, startups, like it's even hard to,

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to get the funding, but I think when you come up with a concept that's

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unique and it can help so many people

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ears are listening.

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You know, people are more receptive to that.

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But what I mean, I just think if you've done all of this and the amount

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of time that you have, I can't wait to see like where Helen Wolfie is

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going to be like 12 months from now.

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Like it's going to be on steroids.

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Like it's going to be a whole other level.

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It, is it for people to sign up?

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I mean, the lowest plan is in our funnels is 49 for the year, but really if you're

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a small business owner or if you to do a lot of things on LinkedIn, you

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really want to get the 99 for the year.

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But again, it's like an expensive reserved Starbucks coffee a month

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and it'll do all of your stuff.

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Your social, your blog, your smart.

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So your social audio smart speaker marketing.

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But we want to keep it low because a lot of our customers, are trying

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to recover from the pandemic.

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They are choosing between this solution and food or a bill or two.

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And so we know small business around the world, which is 70% of major economies.

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They need to be given a chance.

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They need to be given a sense of hope.

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And so we're keeping our prices low.

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And then on the other hand, from a business model standpoint, You know,

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in addition to the equity crowdfunding, allowing them to be shareholders, we

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want to make sure that they can really, turn around their businesses, start

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a business, make a self-sustainable level, residual income or main

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source of income for themselves.

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And a lot of our age, our customers are actually agencies or there are podcasts

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who launched their podcast relatively early on in the last few months.

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And they just looking to make it, they're looking to make it on or on

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work from home and remotely and things.

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Yeah, I get that.

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You should actually, I don't know if you've heard of, I mean, I know CNN

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clubhouse, I don't know if you've heard of the new wisdom app, but there's

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another audio game player you should actually come in do a room, join

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me as a guest in one of my rooms because I do a lot on podcasting and

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then, because it's a replay, they can actually listen to the whole thing.

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And, by then what I'll do is I'll actually sign up.

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For it.

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So then I can test it out myself and then virtual hugs, and then

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I'll give ideas, I'll give actual strategies, like marketing strategies

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of how podcasters can use it.

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Yeah.

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Cause they always listen when I do rooms on that kind of stuff.

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So I think that would be, that'd be great.

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We'll have to get that going too, yeah, absolutely.

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You've put together a really stellar, technology and, , for managing social

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media and I'm going to ask just because I know what the answer is, but I'm going to

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ask anyway, I'm pretty sure that this just replaces any other social media platforms

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that they were using before, like buffer you know, it's, it's interesting.

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Yeah.

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So we, we actually, so we know a lot of the founders that you mentioning

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the founders of the companies you were mentioning you know, it just

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happened to be, the community was so small that I ended up pitching to them

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or asking for advice at some point.

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So we've actually partnered with, as an integration partner with Ryan,

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who's the founder of Hootsuite.

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And so we're the only competitor slash co-creating partner in his app store.

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I told him, Hey, a lot of your customers asking, can they use

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hello, Wolfie on top of Hootsuite?

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Because they do a great job in analytics.

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They do a great job at streams, but we do a great job in other fields

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and other distribution channels.

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Right.

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And so we actually, think of them as a co-creating partner.

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Now, other companies like sprout and buffer and whatnot, they continue going

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we're down there doing the same thing that they've been doing for a very long time.

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Good on them.

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They have a, in some cases, a multi-billion dollar business, but

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where we are going to be in five years is going to be very different from

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where these companies are going down.

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Yeah, for sure.

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But one of the things I did want to mention is a lot of our customers

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tend to be women led businesses.

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And so we're trying to figure out if your listeners , have any advice or tips.

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We are trying to figure out how do we reach more women led businesses.

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Women led enterprises that are, in the social media side

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of, they need social media help.

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So a lot of our businesses tend to be podcast.

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On our platform, they also tend to be coaches or direct

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sellers, real estate agents.

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These are people literally who are like carving out incomes for themselves.

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They're all entrepreneurial.

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But we're, you know, if you have any advice on that, we're

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always looking for feedback.

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I do.

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I do have a couple of things that come to mind is one, women are hanging out on.

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Because it's very visual, it's about food, cooking travel.

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So I think that's where you're going to find an untapped audience, because

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I mean, everyone's on Instagram, right.

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But Pinterest is also a crazy search engine where it can

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rank your post really high.

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And literally what I do in.

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A dollar a day strategy to promote something.

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And I get thousands of views, which is so cost-effective compared to

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doing something on Facebook ads.

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So Pinterest, like if you set up a Pinterest account and if you have

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blog posts, which I'm sure you guys do that you've written on your website.

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You can create, what's called an idea of pen and that's like the visual,

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and you can create that in canva.com,

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and then you can share links to different articles and you can even share different

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links to like, if you have videos that you want to share are little clips, even

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podcasts, episodes that you've been on.

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The other question, I guess I have for you, which comes to mind, which I think

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would really amazingly work in terms of reaching your target audiences.

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Do you have your own podcast?

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We have a, not a podcast per se, but we have a show called content masters, and

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we do live sessions in our Facebook group.

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We try to keep it very exclusive because then it allows our customers to

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come on and say, Hey, this is dimple.

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I have something to talk about.

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The veterans, , chamber of commerce and how we can help other veterans

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started their businesses with social media at the core of it.

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Or we have, we actually have one.

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Very sweet customer Edgar from life for paws.com.

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And he literally came to all of our networking calls and it has

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been coming to all our networking calls for the last few weeks.

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And he started with a Shopify store and every single week he'd built it up.

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And now he's at a point where he's scaling so fast that he's not only doing really

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well on the social media automation side, but he needs introductions

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to investors and things like that.

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So it's like those stories we'd love captivating.

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So we just go live using streamers in our Facebook groups.

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Yeah.

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Do you ever, maybe I think it would be really cool if you did a podcast about.

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Okay.

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And I will help you launch it, but you should do a podcast about

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emojis because it ties in and it's directly related to your product.

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And then people would totally love watching that.

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And you can have different stories about emojis and the emotional.

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They you know, convey and maybe how even emojis, people can misunderstand certain

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emojis and which ones people get confused.

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I don't know what purple hearts mean versus the difference

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between that and a red heart.

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I mean, I'm not 21.

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Right.

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But, you know, I think it would be such a fun and entertaining show.

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That would be amazing.

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So it's so funny, you mentioned that.

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From a couple of years ago when I was on Tinder one of the matches, one of the

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girls I mashed, but she actually said you're going to be, you're the emoji king.

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And I have a screenshot of this from years ago, like back in college,

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early days in college from Tinder.

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And it's so funny because now I actually have the official patent around this

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capability called the emoji recommendation system, which is funny in and of itself.

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But more importantly, when we do the shows, the content masters.

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You can actually see in the introduction, we have a ton of

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emojis that we talk about because it just drives a lot of engagement.

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Emoji, social media marketing.

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So here's some ideas for you.

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You can get the emoji king.com if it's available.

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And so this is not live yet.

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Go ahead and buy that domain before everyone hears the podcast episode.

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And then they go and try to steal my idea that I just gave you.

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Are you kidding?

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We'll call it emoji social media marketing.

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Even if you're not sure if you want to do it, just go get the domain

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from name, cheaper, Bluehost.

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'cause one day you might decide to do a show.

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And the thing is your show doesn't have to be super long.

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You could do episodes once a week that are just like five to 10 minutes.

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You talk about different emojis.

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I mean, how many emojis did you tell me you have like over

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that people can use in hello?

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A little bit.

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There are a lot.

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Yeah.

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I mean, officially, according to unit Cove, which is like the FDA of text-based

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communication they're over 3000.

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I think that show would be a big hit.

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I would live.

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I would listen.

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Yeah.

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You asked her advice.

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I gave you some, I gave you some tips.

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All right.

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So we're down to the last few minutes.

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I know you got to jump off here.

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So, you know, quick question is where do you see the future of AI?

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A lot of founders in the tech industry will, or I guess in venture capital,

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people will say the same thing as that.

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They'll give you a very technical answer and they'll give you a very

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like feature product, rich answer.

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But for me, it's, it's an augmentation.

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It's an augmentation to what you could do in a week, but you can get it done

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in two minutes so that you have time to do what you would have done in a

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year in that week's worth of time.

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Right.

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And then you can just perpetually do better.

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beep beep out of your competition and just win at being a small business owner.

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So I think that's where all of the technology has to, kind of converge.

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Now there's a style of this debate that we can have from an ethical perspective.

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There's a side of this debate we can have from an automation perspective, to what

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extent is too much automation too much and, and whatnot, but at the end of the

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day, so long as it helps to have business owner do more, faster and cheaper and

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just be delighted, just have a lot of fun.

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I think AI , will be a winner.

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Anything short of that?

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It will, it'll be all this contested.

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Yeah, I look forward to it.

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And I got another idea.

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So whether you decide to do that podcast or not, I'd love to have you

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back as a guest to do an episode.

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So whenever you're down for that, you know, that's going to be a really fun

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episode and I'll try to do my whole.

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So I'm a little bit more before we did that one, but I think that would be fun.

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And this way, you know what, like we can see how that episode does and if it

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does really well, like I'll come to you and I'll say, you know what, Arjun, you

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really probably should do that show before someone else the idea, go get your dope.

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So you said emoji king.com.

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Yeah, because you said you were called the emoji king, right?

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So it looks like the emoji king doc emoji king is actually taken in 2016,

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but emoji king.net is available and.io.

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So maybe I'll grab those two.

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You should get the IO, just do it under a.and.co to cool.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And just make sure it's not trademarked.

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And then Hey, go for it.

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So how can people get ahold of you?

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What's the best way for people to reach out or how do they

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get their demo of hello?

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Yeah, just go to hell wolfie.com.

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It's H E L L O w O F y.com.

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And my email's on there.

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My phone is on there.

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Like I have all my information's on there.

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And just tell us a little bit about your small business, your underdog,

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small business and how we can help you.

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If there are certain features you want us to add into the marketing

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platform, there are certain things you like us to do for you.

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And obviously join our Facebook group as well, because that's

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where all the feedback is going in.

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And other people can say.

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I agree with that, or maybe we should do it this way.

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And then that itself has a direct impact on our roadmap.

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And then last but not least, if you consider investing in the company, as

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we scale, we want to make sure all our underdogs are scaling with us as well.

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So we raised about 26,000 so far as of this recording, but we're, obviously

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trying to get to the next level, which is 50 K the next level, which is a hundred K.

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So anyone can become a shareholder.

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And then those will give you certain perks into hello, Wolfie.

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And what is the name of the Facebook group?

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Again?

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Content masters by hello Wolfie.

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Okay, perfect.

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I will link it in the show notes for everyone who is tuning in, this

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was such a delight to have you on the mesmerizing marketing podcast.

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And who knows, like pretty soon you'll have your own podcast.

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I can't wait.

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Cause I love to inspire people to launch their own show.

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I do have a one day launch or podcasts bootcamp coming up in November.

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So if you want.

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We are there to do that.

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And we've got to get you for a room on wisdom one of these days.

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I followed you on Instagram.

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So follow me back there because I don't know if you have time to read your emails.

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Cause I noticed the same email address I have is the same one

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that's on the company website.

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So you probably have hundreds of emails a day.

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We do, but I respond to all of them.

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In fact, I learned this from a very well-known entrepreneur.

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Who's his name is sir Martin Sorrell.

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And so.

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He built the largest holding company of agencies in the world WPP.

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And so till this day, if you email him, he'll respond to you within a couple of

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minutes or a couple of hours, and it's astonishing, like how fast he responds.

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So I take that very seriously.

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That is amazing.

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See, that just shows me that you have integrity and it's a

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different way of running a business.

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Right?

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I think those things.

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A lot.

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I mean, if you're going to put an email address there for the public, then yeah.

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You should respond.

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Right.

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But then a lot of businesses just don't do that.

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They don't want, we do the same thing in our Facebook group as well.

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Like if you come in and say, Hey, I'm having some issues with this, or, Hey,

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this is a great feature I want to request.

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You will actually see again for your viewers who are joining the group.

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You'll see actually me.

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A bedroom background, a garden background, the backyard central park, me with my

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dog, walking around, I'm responding and saying, Hey, dimple, I love that feedback.

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And I'm going to add it to the roadmap or I'm so sorry that happened to you.

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I'm going to make sure that we escalate this and it doesn't matter because

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the other thing we learned from last year is that it doesn't matter.

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What's in your background.

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It doesn't matter the dog noises or birds chirping and whatnot so

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long as you're moving forward.

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And I think that habit or that approaches has, is going to stay.

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And so we just take videos and respond to.

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Oh, my God.

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I love that.

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That is amazing.

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You are so modern and you're doing everything in a very innovative

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way, which I absolutely love.

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And I hope to see you again on my podcast for the next show, and we'll

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definitely do a segment on wisdom.

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So thank you for being here, right?

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Virtual hugs from New York back to you.

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Thank you for listening to the mesmerizing marketing podcast.

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to check out all the latest episodes.

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