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Special guest Mike "Sarge" Riley from Boston's 98.5 The Sports Hub joins Mikey Cash on this special episode to talk about WWE Wrestlemania 39. Listen in as these two wrestling mega fans give their takes on each upcoming match. Is this actually Cody Rhodes time to win the belt? Will there be a retirement match at the show? Is the Bloodline story the best storyline in WWE history? This episode is a must listen!

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Michael Cascio:

All right everyone. Welcome back to

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another episode of strutting from gorilla. I am Mikey cash.

Michael Cascio:

My boy Vito is not with us today, but we do have a very

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special guest with us for our WrestleMania preview episode.

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But before we get to that, let me just run through the socials

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gorilla.com. All right, that's out of the way. So like I was

Michael Cascio:

mentioning before, sadly, my fellow hosts big Vito could not

Michael Cascio:

be with us today, scheduling nightmare. However, Fear not. We

Michael Cascio:

have with us today, someone who we're very honored to have on

Michael Cascio:

the podcast with us. For our listeners here in Boston, you've

Michael Cascio:

probably heard his voice during the public address announcing

Michael Cascio:

for at Gillette Stadium for the New England Revolution and the

Michael Cascio:

Patriots. You'll also have heard his voice on 98 Five, the sports

Michael Cascio:

hub. And most importantly, today you're going to hear his voice

Michael Cascio:

talking about professional wrestling. We're going to be

Michael Cascio:

talking about our our WrestleMania love and what we're

Michael Cascio:

looking forward to the Show of Shows this year. So I'd like to

Michael Cascio:

welcome Mike Sarge Riley to the show, Mike, so glad to have you

Michael Cascio:

on here, man. Thanks for being here.

Sarge Riley:

Cash. Thank you for having me, my man. And you know,

Sarge Riley:

it's always nice to hear the accolades working hard for all

Sarge Riley:

those things in life. But there's nothing more than I

Sarge Riley:

enjoyed the talk wrestling. And if we can talk that with you

Sarge Riley:

today. Let's hit this out of the park, baby. I can't wait. Dude,

Michael Cascio:

let's let's just dive right in. Alright, so I

Michael Cascio:

just finished watching raw this morning before we are before

Michael Cascio:

we're here recording. I gotta say last night show was

Michael Cascio:

electric. Absolutely electric.

Sarge Riley:

It was a good one. St. Louis. Great. Great

Sarge Riley:

wrestling, Tim. And we know the history there the origin family,

Sarge Riley:

of course, the minute sorry, Midwest, if you will. But Cody

Sarge Riley:

Rhodes and Roman Reigns. I mean, it's eating up. And I'll say

Sarge Riley:

this though, Mike, I thought going into last night. This past

Sarge Riley:

week's raw. I don't want to have too much of a time constraint

Sarge Riley:

for you guys. And you know what I mean, if you're going to have

Sarge Riley:

this replay throughout the week, or whatever, so this past week,

Sarge Riley:

we're all you know what I mean? May March 20. There wasn't too

Sarge Riley:

much a build up. For Cody and Roman. Like I thought it was a

Sarge Riley:

little under the radar. Not to, you know, overdramatic, but the

Sarge Riley:

promo to close up the show. It got me more excited to get the

Sarge Riley:

juices flowing, if you know what I mean. And for Cody to say not

Sarge Riley:

to mention my dad anymore. And for Roman to make the comment

Sarge Riley:

about the Aw, you went walking away and so forth. Right? Oh my

Sarge Riley:

god. You know, I do have to ask the question, though, is WWE

Sarge Riley:

bringing up Aw, too much? Like similar to how aw did that with

Sarge Riley:

WWE? Obviously the debut of it when Cody slams the sledgehammer

Sarge Riley:

and Triple H is thrown for years. Not like that, you know?

Sarge Riley:

Yeah. But it's like, I don't know, do you have to go that

Sarge Riley:

low? That's I'm trying to think,

Michael Cascio:

well, you know, it's interesting, because I feel

Michael Cascio:

like it's just become like a fad for them now like it like over

Michael Cascio:

the last few years. Both of them have been doing this. I mean, I

Michael Cascio:

think even what was it even before aw was actually on the

Michael Cascio:

air? I'm pretty sure one time, Sami Zayn was on Raw. And he

Michael Cascio:

mentioned something he was like, Oh, maybe I can talk about Aw,

Michael Cascio:

and the crowd just kind of went wild about that. So I feel like

Michael Cascio:

it's I don't know if it's like a cheap pop or something. Like

Michael Cascio:

they're looking for something there whenever they mentioned

Michael Cascio:

one another. And I feel like they don't need to anymore. You

Michael Cascio:

know, this isn't the Attitude Era. They're not actually trying

Michael Cascio:

to put the other one out of business. You know, the the

Michael Cascio:

maliciousness is gone now. So this is all it's all fans that

Michael Cascio:

that are sort of having that kind of tribalism. But I do

Michael Cascio:

agree. I think the focus should be on WrestleMania I get that

Michael Cascio:

Cody Rose had the history with Aw, but I don't think it's

Michael Cascio:

something that needs to be brought up as much as it's

Michael Cascio:

getting brought up. I get I can kind of see where maybe last

Michael Cascio:

night felt like an exception because I think people wanted

Michael Cascio:

those promos between Roman and Cody to go a step further to get

Michael Cascio:

a little bit more intense because it was very cordial,

Michael Cascio:

their first interaction on SmackDown a few weeks ago, so I

Michael Cascio:

think you needed to ratchet it up a little bit. And they

Michael Cascio:

definitely did that. And I feel like that's just there in their

Michael Cascio:

minds. Well, how else can you ratchet it up? Let's mention his

Michael Cascio:

former company and the fact that he couldn't get over over there.

Sarge Riley:

Good point. Very good point. And it's just like

Sarge Riley:

just you know, food for thought to think about Like, are we

Sarge Riley:

really doing this too much now? So, but it wasn't Cody that said

Sarge Riley:

it. It wasn't him it was Roman Reigns. So it makes you think

Sarge Riley:

from the production standpoint, we can have Cody say this

Sarge Riley:

because in a row look like he wanted a second Aw, let's just

Sarge Riley:

give it a Roman to say that. So it's not too bad in that sense

Sarge Riley:

there. But, you know, like, it's very interesting here. It's

Sarge Riley:

fascinating with the bloodline, the whole storyline after the

Sarge Riley:

promo, and so much, I guess you could say, not descent among the

Sarge Riley:

ranks, if you will, but some friction, clear friction in the

Sarge Riley:

bloodline with soloists ACOA. Jimmy and Jay obviously, that's

Sarge Riley:

the heart of it, you know, the Usos and, and Roman Reigns and

Sarge Riley:

then Paul Heyman, of course, will go with whoever, but

Sarge Riley:

simazine to branch off and get, you know, backstabbed by the

Sarge Riley:

Russos. And Kevin Owens, there's just so much storyline here and

Sarge Riley:

so much investment here, with the bloodline going into

Sarge Riley:

Wrestlemania. I got some thoughts on this. I got a lot of

Sarge Riley:

thoughts as to what may go down and maybe a WWE swerve for

Sarge Riley:

everyone here.

Michael Cascio:

Really? Well,

Sarge Riley:

you got to think here. I mean, it's not we know

Sarge Riley:

it's not Vince calling creative anymore. We're being told,

Sarge Riley:

right? Right, right. But he's there, and WrestleMania is his

Sarge Riley:

baby, right? And he works so hard to put Roman reigns over.

Sarge Riley:

And, you know, he's been the champion, dude, let's let's make

Sarge Riley:

this clear, now. Universal Champion for over 900 days, he's

Sarge Riley:

been the undisputed champion. Yeah, you know what I mean? So

Sarge Riley:

that's where I think they have a little safety net here for Cody

Sarge Riley:

Rhodes to somehow win this match. And you could still, this

Sarge Riley:

is where I just want a fair, Mike, okay, my take on this, and

Sarge Riley:

I'll give you my, my take is that I would not be shocked if

Sarge Riley:

Roman Reigns wins this match, I really would not, I think the

Sarge Riley:

world is saying Cody Rhodes is gonna win. That's it just I have

Sarge Riley:

to go into that mindset here where I just look at Clash of

Sarge Riley:

the castle, the best opportunity for Roman to lose where he could

Sarge Riley:

have, you should have lost, and all of a sudden Solas CO comes

Sarge Riley:

out. And then you go to Montreal, Sam is in zone town,

Sarge Riley:

hog rod right there, and he wins. Um, it just, i That's why

Sarge Riley:

I'm not ruling this out here. Especially with it being so

Sarge Riley:

close to Wrestlemania, where they have not made a

Sarge Riley:

stipulation, they've been WWE not made a stipulation that this

Sarge Riley:

is going to be for one title, but they're still holding on to

Sarge Riley:

the undisputed and the overall picture is to protect Roman

Sarge Riley:

Reigns to get to 1000 dish. And that's what I fair.

Michael Cascio:

You know, it's funny that you actually

Michael Cascio:

mentioned that because I've just been listening around to other

Michael Cascio:

other folks talking about this match. And that is something

Michael Cascio:

that continues to come up and will they just let him win so

Michael Cascio:

that they can get him to 1000 days because that's

Michael Cascio:

unprecedented in modern day professional wrestling. I mean,

Michael Cascio:

what what CM Punk was the closest that there was and he's

Michael Cascio:

a clips that I mean, more than doubled it. So I think there is

Michael Cascio:

a very real possibility here that Cody could lose. And then I

Michael Cascio:

guess the question goes, How much longer does he remain

Michael Cascio:

champion than if Roman wins in my head? I'm like, we'll just

Michael Cascio:

leave them champion for another two years, then just then just

Michael Cascio:

make it an absolute Bruno type of run. Just have him dominate

Michael Cascio:

the sport for a couple more years until somebody else comes

Michael Cascio:

along. Or, or maybe Cody fights them again next year. I mean,

Michael Cascio:

that's happened before. I mean, it wasn't for a title. But we've

Michael Cascio:

seen that with Shawn Michaels and Undertaker, he was like,

Michael Cascio:

Hey, I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna challenge you again this

Michael Cascio:

year. Right? Mania, amen, Triple H. So it's not unprecedented.

Michael Cascio:

It's

Sarge Riley:

not unprecedented. The other thing I am really

Sarge Riley:

reading into this year and back to my my point of, you know, the

Sarge Riley:

titles not being split, and Triple H's. I think his overall

Sarge Riley:

goal is to get two titles, meaning one on SmackDown and one

Sarge Riley:

on Raw. Right. And the undisputed thing from from what

Sarge Riley:

I'm being told that and from what I've heard, is that Triple

Sarge Riley:

H and like that undisputed thing, and they're they're

Sarge Riley:

trying to build that up there. But again, here we are, we're

Sarge Riley:

1011 days out from Wrestlemania. And there's no stipulation on

Sarge Riley:

for one mat one One Belt One title. Same thing goes for the

Sarge Riley:

Russos with the undisputed tag team titles, and Kevin Owens and

Sarge Riley:

Sami Zayn, have the challenge out there to go for the

Sarge Riley:

undisputed Tag Team Championship. Yep. And I just

Sarge Riley:

look at it where you have a potential from a business

Sarge Riley:

standpoint, now, we're a new contract television contract is

Sarge Riley:

coming up on the rise with Fox. That's why Vince is back. I

Sarge Riley:

think that Fox, they want the appeal to have the

Sarge Riley:

championships, the undisputed one there for Fox and so forth.

Sarge Riley:

That's why they did that. But from the creative standpoint,

Sarge Riley:

it's really you know, you have two brands, you really should

Sarge Riley:

try to have one champion per brand. But if that's not going

Sarge Riley:

to be the case, which really has been mixed bag, then it goes

Sarge Riley:

against my whole argument there. So that's why you know what I

Sarge Riley:

mean, I'm just going against the whole thing of Roman Reigns it I

Sarge Riley:

wouldn't be shocked if he wins the match. That's my point. You

Sarge Riley:

know, in WWE, they did everything they could to put

Sarge Riley:

this guy over for years, and it didn't work. And then finally he

Sarge Riley:

goes, he'll the best thing to happen. Roman Reigns Mike was

Sarge Riley:

the global pandemic, the global pandemic anymore, right.

Michael Cascio:

It doesn't agree more. Got time away. He came

Michael Cascio:

back and his just it's been off to the races ever since. And it

Michael Cascio:

is not the same guy that he was before. You know, it's

Michael Cascio:

remarkable. And

Sarge Riley:

even even when they had the the Thunderdome, right,

Sarge Riley:

the the no crowd, like, I know, you're injecting sound and

Sarge Riley:

everything and fans and the video board and all that. But

Sarge Riley:

his promos were great. And that's how you're just so

Sarge Riley:

invested. Because you have to listen, you you had that

Sarge Riley:

opportunity to listen there when they were live in person before

Sarge Riley:

all that. Yeah, he listened to a little bit but really got the

Sarge Riley:

full attention. It's like okay, well, well, this is like a real

Sarge Riley:

big deal here. Roman Reigns. So that's the other thing too in

Sarge Riley:

pro wrestling. If you know Roman, he's been a champion 900

Sarge Riley:

days now. Universal title, Let's call a spade a spade here. What

Sarge Riley:

what's the point of being a champion for so long? And then

Sarge Riley:

not laying that none not gonna sit lay down but not being

Sarge Riley:

willing to put someone over or, you know, have someone go to

Sarge Riley:

that next step? That's what pro wrestling is about in the grand

Sarge Riley:

scheme of things. I mean, John Cena did it for years, he put

Sarge Riley:

talent over. You look at the undertaker strike, right maybe

Sarge Riley:

didn't take her says now, that probably didn't have to be Brock

Sarge Riley:

Lesnar, but the streak should have been broken. So at some

Sarge Riley:

point, someone's got to beat Roman Reigns. And I think this

Sarge Riley:

might be the best case scenario. But as a safety net, Mike, you

Sarge Riley:

can't get your hopes up on this. For Cody Rhodes. Like, just how

Sarge Riley:

it is it's helped WB is that look at the track record.

Michael Cascio:

Right. Right. Right. Like it's, I feel the

Michael Cascio:

same way. I honestly, you know, I was I found myself worried

Michael Cascio:

kind of related to this topic of where the fan is going to turn

Michael Cascio:

on Cody, because they love Sammy so much. And I will, I will give

Michael Cascio:

tribulation company some credit for how they've handled that

Michael Cascio:

transition of Sammy into Cody. They handled it probably as

Michael Cascio:

masterfully as they could have handled that because we've seen

Michael Cascio:

this happen before. We've seen the Daniel Bryan situation where

Michael Cascio:

they had their mindset on who they wanted in the main event of

Michael Cascio:

WrestleMania. And the fans just absolutely rebelled against them

Michael Cascio:

if somebody came up organically, and they connected with them.

Michael Cascio:

And that's what happened with Sammy here. And so I thought it

Michael Cascio:

was really great how they've handled that transition. And now

Michael Cascio:

I mean, I'm, I'm very invested in this Cody and Roman match. I

Michael Cascio:

think there's a lot, there's a lot of significance behind it. I

Michael Cascio:

think it's like for the roads name to have a second generation

Michael Cascio:

roads in the main event of WrestleMania. Yeah, I mean, just

Michael Cascio:

I can't imagine what that means for that family to have him in

Michael Cascio:

that spot right now. And, and I think for Roman to again, it's

Michael Cascio:

this is a big deal for him, they've continued to have these,

Michael Cascio:

like you said, these big matches that they've built up to where

Michael Cascio:

you thought your McIntyre was going to be the guy to dethrone

Michael Cascio:

them, and then they served you on that. So now they're doing

Michael Cascio:

the same thing with Cody, and it makes perfect sense for us to

Michael Cascio:

sit here questioning. Well, what if he loses now? What does he do

Michael Cascio:

the next day? What happens the next night on Raw? How do we?

Michael Cascio:

How do we handle that? How does he explain himself? If that's

Michael Cascio:

what happens? And if it's Roman, then what kind of run does this

Michael Cascio:

guy go on? Until they reach a point where they're ready to

Michael Cascio:

say, we're going to be we're going to have you dropped the

Michael Cascio:

titles? So I'm not sure. Well,

Sarge Riley:

well, that's the thing too. So to your point, if

Sarge Riley:

it is, okay, let me let me start with the Cody thing if Cody is

Sarge Riley:

to win, I think that's the perfect situation where WWE

Sarge Riley:

looks at it as the first RAW after WrestleMania that

Sarge Riley:

essentially is their New Year's day on the calendar, right?

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, that's when they restart everything. And Triple H will

Sarge Riley:

then have his opportunity to really, I mean, he's already

Sarge Riley:

made quite a mark, no doubt, look at what he's done in nine

Sarge Riley:

months since he became creative control, maybe even seven, eight

Sarge Riley:

months, whatever it is, but then he can make the situation right

Sarge Riley:

there. Have Cody to have that? Who will go after him next? And

Sarge Riley:

I think that the easy answer is if Cody has to win, somehow you

Sarge Riley:

get one of the ossos maybe go after him solos ACOA even semi

Sarge Riley:

Zan could say I want my title shot again. You know, maybe you

Sarge Riley:

could have that right. But the other thing is, if Roman wins,

Sarge Riley:

it just sets up another rematch with Cody. And I think WB can

Sarge Riley:

look at that on paper, where this might be the opportunity

Sarge Riley:

here, but we've seen that so many times Mike, and I go to the

Sarge Riley:

old school, like, especially 92 Hulk Hogan Ric Flair. I know

Sarge Riley:

that intuitive WrestleMania it still kills me to this day. And

Sarge Riley:

Vince looks at it. You know, he looked at it like with the house

Sarge Riley:

shows that they weren't drawing they didn't have you know, too

Sarge Riley:

much Hogan and flair, it didn't work. And it wouldn't work in a

Sarge Riley:

Miniseries. I just disagree with that. So I think that you have

Sarge Riley:

to maybe cash in while you can. And this is probably the best

Sarge Riley:

opportunity for Cody to win.

Michael Cascio:

Yeah, I agree. I want I think it's it makes a lot

Michael Cascio:

of sense for Cody to win. I think you have a lot of story

Michael Cascio:

setup now because it feels like Roman sort of run through the

Michael Cascio:

roster at this point. Because who else? I mean, what they were

Michael Cascio:

considering rock. I know that that was sort of something that

Michael Cascio:

was kind of in the cards and then that fell through. And so

Michael Cascio:

you know, sort of perfect timing that Cody was coming back from

Michael Cascio:

injury around this time. And they were able to sort of like

Michael Cascio:

get him positioned into this into this match. Sounds like

Sarge Riley:

there's some friction between the rock and

Sarge Riley:

Roman Reigns too, by the way. Really,

Michael Cascio:

I didn't hear what's going

Sarge Riley:

on a little behind the scenes stuff. I think with

Sarge Riley:

the movie stuff they had together there, Roman or the

Sarge Riley:

rock, or sorry, Roman didn't like how he thought he should

Sarge Riley:

have had more airtime than the rock. I don't think the rock

Sarge Riley:

wanted to put Roman over. So it's a little it's an

Sarge Riley:

egotistical, you know, it's yeah, it just didn't work out.

Sarge Riley:

And then obviously the rock with his insurance for the the

Sarge Riley:

moviemaking thing was very high risk, low reward sort of deal.

Sarge Riley:

So yeah, that I think that's that was the overall foundation

Sarge Riley:

of why he's probably not he's not in the card.

Michael Cascio:

Yeah. Do you find? Were you disappointed at

Michael Cascio:

all that that match didn't come to fruition? I know. That's been

Michael Cascio:

something that's been talked about for years now. But I was

Michael Cascio:

curious if you felt that way? Yeah.

Sarge Riley:

I mean, yes, and no, because, like, Would it be a

Sarge Riley:

cool moment? No doubt. Absolutely. And, and, and yes,

Sarge Riley:

for web for a business standpoint. Oh, they'd be raking

Sarge Riley:

in the cash. Not that they aren't already. But the rock.

Sarge Riley:

He's the biggest, you know, movie star in the world right

Sarge Riley:

now, to have that attention. But where does he go from there? So

Sarge Riley:

that's why I look at it from that standpoint. Is the rock

Sarge Riley:

gonna be your champion at SummerSlam? No, it's not gonna

Sarge Riley:

happen. So that's why I'm not super disappointed. 25 years

Sarge Riley:

ago, different story, but not right now. Different different

Sarge Riley:

time in his in his life, so it'd be cool on paper. But here's the

Sarge Riley:

other thing too. Mike, I don't think you needed to have rock

Sarge Riley:

fight for a championship. I don't think he needed to have a

Sarge Riley:

toe you can just have the match with Roman. I'm

Michael Cascio:

so glad you said that. Because, you know, I had a

Michael Cascio:

self admitted rock lover. I mean, I love this guy from the

Michael Cascio:

very beginning. Like he was my favorite wrestler growing up.

Michael Cascio:

And I've had the opportunity to watch him wrestle a few times.

Michael Cascio:

And I was at WrestleMania 29 When you fought Cena in that

Michael Cascio:

night where he like what did you like he had like the like tore

Michael Cascio:

her like a Hurney a hernia or something like he completely

Michael Cascio:

destroyed his body during that. But and that's what I keep

Michael Cascio:

thinking of is you know, with each passing year, his body is

Michael Cascio:

his show it will probably get less and less able to hold up to

Michael Cascio:

just like the rigors of being in the ring as much and as great as

Michael Cascio:

in shape as he is. I mean, we could watch his instagram videos

Michael Cascio:

all day of him like lifting chains and stuff but when it

Michael Cascio:

comes to in bring conditioning, I just don't think it's there

Michael Cascio:

for him at this time. And I know that feels like sacrilege

Michael Cascio:

because I love the rock but I don't think he needs to do this.

Michael Cascio:

You know, if it for what it is. It's fine. Maybe come out do a

Michael Cascio:

promo Do you know, I have a thought in mind of maybe where

Michael Cascio:

he could even fit in for this year's WrestleMania you know,

Michael Cascio:

Ellie Knight has been on a mission to have something some

Michael Cascio:

sort of involvement in WrestleMania every every week is

Michael Cascio:

coming out on SmackDown he's pulling these promos. And a lot

Michael Cascio:

of people have made some comparisons to his sort of promo

Michael Cascio:

style into rocks. And so I wonder if maybe, you know rock

Michael Cascio:

this a little thing comes out rock bottom People's Elbow that

Michael Cascio:

I'm fine with, you know, have you know haven't be a little

Michael Cascio:

moment there. But yeah, I don't think he needs to have a proper

Michael Cascio:

Actually anymore. I feel like that. Leave it there. And then I

Michael Cascio:

guess selfishly say I was there for his last match and I don't

Michael Cascio:

have to watch anything else. No,

Sarge Riley:

I think that's, I like that like I like that.

Sarge Riley:

That's good. Yeah. Did you write Do you have the last one there

Sarge Riley:

and he definitely did not have to have a championship for a

Sarge Riley:

match for a championship yet but yes, would it be cool?

Sarge Riley:

Absolutely. But yeah, I'm with you. Like we're sometimes just

Sarge Riley:

gonna walk off into the sunset as it is and that's why the

Sarge Riley:

undertaker he would not be Lord back for one more couldn't do it

Sarge Riley:

even said that that was it. You know that boneyard match even

Sarge Riley:

though it was the pandemic there with was AJ Styles. I actually

Sarge Riley:

thought that matches cool video, but he's not going to go back

Sarge Riley:

for one more. That's it. So you know, things along those lines

Sarge Riley:

right there. Right. Yeah, take a walk. So the rock and Roman,

Sarge Riley:

that from what I heard, there was a little little dissent

Sarge Riley:

disagreement, if you will, between the two right there. So

Sarge Riley:

yeah,

Michael Cascio:

we'll see. We'll see if we ever hear anything

Michael Cascio:

more about that. Yeah.

Sarge Riley:

So do you think Cody's gonna win? Oh, I'm sorry.

Sarge Riley:

Do I

Michael Cascio:

think Cody is going to win, but I have an open

Michael Cascio:

mind to the idea that I would not be surprised if they pulled

Michael Cascio:

the trigger and just have enrollment, continue on, get to

Michael Cascio:

1000 days and then have something happen have some sort

Michael Cascio:

of surprise when like on day 1000? Like I can almost see

Michael Cascio:

them. It feels very on brand for WWE booking to do something like

Michael Cascio:

that. Well,

Sarge Riley:

that's it. And if they don't, if Roman is to win,

Sarge Riley:

I just think there's no doubt in my mind that you will see the

Sarge Riley:

championship split by SummerSlam by summer, no doubt, you know,

Sarge Riley:

so if he has to win, though, find a way to get that storyline

Sarge Riley:

going right there. But right now, I just don't I don't know.

Sarge Riley:

It's gonna be interesting to that's why I'm very cautious to

Sarge Riley:

get on the Kodi train here. And the story has been great. He had

Sarge Riley:

the torn PEC came back from that he was on fire like came off

Sarge Riley:

like a rocket last year. And then you know that his dad to

Sarge Riley:

fulfill his legacy. It makes sense. It makes the most sense

Sarge Riley:

to put it on Cody, but that's why I'm err on the side of

Sarge Riley:

caution for this one. No,

Michael Cascio:

no, I hear you. I just think there's so many

Michael Cascio:

options for Cody. If he becomes champion. I know. The guys that

Michael Cascio:

challenge Roman even I mean, you got it. I would put Seamus up

Michael Cascio:

there because he's had like a renaissance of the last year or

Michael Cascio:

so those matches with goons or have been unbelievable. You

Michael Cascio:

Gotcha. McIntyre has just like rolling out the top of the card.

Michael Cascio:

Also. Kayo. I mean, geez. I think him and Cody can have some

Michael Cascio:

real chemistry together. I'm just like, it's just something

Michael Cascio:

I've wanted to see happen since he came back. Oh, yeah.

Michael Cascio:

Obviously. Seth Rollins, I mean, there's there's a lot of folks

Michael Cascio:

that I think Cody could also elevate. I think we

Michael Cascio:

underestimate Cody's ability to elevate folks. I mean, we

Michael Cascio:

watched it happen and aw too. Later, the fan reaction was what

Michael Cascio:

it was. But I think Cody tried really hard. So I think I think

Michael Cascio:

that there's there's a lot of options for him. I gotta ask

Michael Cascio:

you, Have there ever been a WrestleMania where you felt like

Michael Cascio:

your own I feel this way as much as I love Cody and Roman that

Michael Cascio:

the build to this tag team match with Sammy and Kevin versus the

Michael Cascio:

Usos has felt almost like it overshadows it in a way because

Michael Cascio:

of just how just the emotional. I think the emotional importance

Michael Cascio:

of Sami Zayn Kevin Owens, and in that whole bloodline

Michael Cascio:

involvement. I mean, what do you think about that? Because I feel

Michael Cascio:

like that's been that's been something that's just been like

Michael Cascio:

a real shocker to me of how invested I am. Yeah, it's,

Sarge Riley:

it's a good, you know, Jimmy's in gets turned on.

Sarge Riley:

And then he has he goes back to his old buddy there, Kevin Owens

Sarge Riley:

Zoo. You know, we know there's some. I don't know if you can

Sarge Riley:

trust anybody, if you will, right? In this situation, or

Sarge Riley:

because they both turned on each other and everything. So that's

Sarge Riley:

again, that's why I wouldn't be surprised if you see the UI

Sarge Riley:

shows when the title is and the thing here is that Mike

Sarge Riley:

WrestleMania had split up to two nights now. So that match could

Sarge Riley:

be on night one. And that could be a potential foreshadow of

Sarge Riley:

what's going to happen with Cody and Roman. Because you know,

Sarge Riley:

that is your bloodline right there. But I think it's a good

Sarge Riley:

situation here, especially after the Russos turned on Zane, kick

Sarge Riley:

him out of the bloodline, but I don't know I could totally

Sarge Riley:

again, I'm gonna go back to the the storyline telling here that

Sarge Riley:

Zayn could turn on Kevin Owens and rejoin the Russos and that's

Sarge Riley:

where I'm not ruling anything out. But it's It's been a, you

Sarge Riley:

know, interesting to see how Sami Zayn has progressed and

Sarge Riley:

became that fan favorite right there. But I don't know, I

Sarge Riley:

almost feel like he's kind of fell down back to Earth, if you

Sarge Riley:

will, after in Montreal, because that hype to the Elimination

Sarge Riley:

Chamber being in the title match. Yeah, I mean, it's great

Sarge Riley:

singles match for Roman just didn't win there. But he's not I

Sarge Riley:

still don't think he's 100% At the height where he was before

Sarge Riley:

and I almost thought that Zan would have been like a throwing

Sarge Riley:

from what we saw WrestleMania 30 with Daniel Bryan, you know,

Sarge Riley:

Brian Ryan, you know, Randy Orton and who was the Batista?

Sarge Riley:

Triple edge? Yeah, potentially. Yeah, it was Triple H champion,

Sarge Riley:

but that wasn't. No,

Michael Cascio:

it was. It was Randy Orton. Yeah, yeah, he

Michael Cascio:

fought he had to fight Triple H earlier in the night. That's

Michael Cascio:

what it was into the match. Yeah, yeah.

Sarge Riley:

There you go. Yeah. So things along those lines here

Sarge Riley:

thought it would have been a three way but I think that

Sarge Riley:

again, I'm going for the mindset. If Roman is to remain

Sarge Riley:

the champion, then. Man, I then you know, I'll say Kevin Owens,

Sarge Riley:

and Sami Zayn will win the titles. I will say that. And and

Sarge Riley:

that way, you can still get the potential usco vs. Roman, if

Sarge Riley:

Roman has to return the title, you know what I mean? Right.

Sarge Riley:

Right. Right. That's been the story the whole time. When you

Sarge Riley:

think about it, though, that's been the story the whole time

Sarge Riley:

here. From the very beginning with Jay. Yeah, yes, exactly.

Sarge Riley:

So, but they're not going to put that on Wrestlemania. It's not

Sarge Riley:

gonna be Roman versus J Wrestlemania. No, no, you know,

Sarge Riley:

but so

Michael Cascio:

you see, they can do that story. Even if Roman

Michael Cascio:

doesn't have the titles, in my view, like you can be an

Michael Cascio:

emotionally invested storyline that doesn't need the titles.

Michael Cascio:

It's just this family feud. And I think people would actually

Michael Cascio:

buy into it.

Sarge Riley:

Exactly. Exactly. And it just the investment right

Sarge Riley:

there. Yeah. The whole history of the family. You totally

Sarge Riley:

could, but I think it adds a little more. And that's the

Sarge Riley:

thing too, Mike, if if you are to have that family feud, yeah.

Sarge Riley:

Without the title, it probably would mean ju so goes over, you

Sarge Riley:

know, yes. I don't think Roman Reigns is gonna drop the title

Sarge Riley:

the J who, so I don't I don't see that happening. I'm

Michael Cascio:

not just I love J. I think he's done great. And

Michael Cascio:

this whole storyline, but I don't think we're giving him the

Michael Cascio:

championship.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, can't see it happening.

Michael Cascio:

So Alright, so we've been we've been discussing

Michael Cascio:

the bloodline and basically the main event and the tag team

Michael Cascio:

match. What of these these these two massive nights for

Michael Cascio:

Wrestlemania this year? Or what matches Do you find yourself

Michael Cascio:

like drawn to outside of the bloodline enrollment and Cody in

Michael Cascio:

the tag?

Sarge Riley:

Oh, man. I would, I'd have to say, probably Rhea

Sarge Riley:

Ripley and Charlotte. Because, yeah, that match three years

Sarge Riley:

ago, I thought it was a really good match, and I was very heavy

Sarge Riley:

on Rhea Ripley strain at that time, I thought that it was an

Sarge Riley:

epic failure by WWE, not having Rhea Ripley retained the NXT

Sarge Riley:

title against Charlotte. And I understand the whole story with

Sarge Riley:

Charlotte to have her be the, you know, break her dad's record

Sarge Riley:

70 It's going to happen at some point, no doubt. And that's why

Sarge Riley:

I think that Rhea Ripley here, she's just so over right now.

Sarge Riley:

And people love mommy. And you know, she's just wants that

Sarge Riley:

revenge on Charlotte. And I'm very invested in that one. There

Sarge Riley:

have been a big rear Ripley fan since day one. I think she is

Sarge Riley:

going to beat Charlotte because it eventually does tell the

Sarge Riley:

situation where Charlotte can get back to the title and just

Sarge Riley:

add more numbers on her resume and Charlotte's run this time

Sarge Riley:

around as a champion. It's been like a, I don't know not

Sarge Riley:

invested at all. Not a good run here. Oh,

Michael Cascio:

it seems like an afterthought. Really? Yeah.

Sarge Riley:

It really is, you know. So I think I'm very

Sarge Riley:

invested in that. And then also, I really want to see Siena in

Sarge Riley:

awesome theory. Very excited for that, man.

Michael Cascio:

I know I I gotta say, I was so jealous that I

Michael Cascio:

wasn't able to be at that RA in Boston, when theory and Cena had

Michael Cascio:

their little promo exchange, because it was phenomenal.

Michael Cascio:

watching it on TV. Holy smokes. Cena lit them up. Shameless

Sarge Riley:

plug, you know, it was just phenomenal to the

Sarge Riley:

interview we had with awesome theory a couple of days before

Sarge Riley:

check it out in the archives. 95 Sports up.

Michael Cascio:

That's right. That's right. My man, my man.

Michael Cascio:

Yeah, great guy. He's, I mean, he's really had a hell of a

Michael Cascio:

turnaround. And honestly, I think that's, I personally find

Michael Cascio:

it as a credit to Triple H, I think Triple H kind of saw what

Michael Cascio:

needed to happen with that character. Because, you know

Michael Cascio:

what, what, however it was going on when Vince was in control, I

Michael Cascio:

mean, whatever, you know, we don't need to really get into

Michael Cascio:

that. But the bottom line here is I think it's been a much more

Michael Cascio:

natural progression for Austin. Character work, since AAA is

Michael Cascio:

kind of Look over and just sort of help sort of form where this

Michael Cascio:

guy is going. And he you can tell that theory is much more

Michael Cascio:

comfortable that you can see it when a performer is out there,

Michael Cascio:

and they're just sort of in the zone, and theories there. And

Michael Cascio:

this is a great challenge for him with John Cena, and hold

Michael Cascio:

with us, John Cena for coming back. Well,

Sarge Riley:

you know, and I think he's the kind of guy that

Sarge Riley:

he will gladly put the talent over, he'll put the talent over

Sarge Riley:

and it's really cool to, you know, even again, I I'll plug

Sarge Riley:

this again to interviewing awesome theory last year, in

Sarge Riley:

August 2022. He did say that he looked up to John Cena that was

Sarge Riley:

his favorite guy growing up and he started watching him in

Sarge Riley:

Atlanta. So that's a dream come true for him to you know, fight

Sarge Riley:

your hero, I guess because they'd be in the same ring.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, maybe haven't put you over. That's amazing. So I can't

Sarge Riley:

see Cena winning the title. I just you know, right,

Michael Cascio:

right. I don't think so either. And so I My

Michael Cascio:

prediction is that theory wins this one. And I think it's it's

Michael Cascio:

a statement win for him. And later on throughout the year if

Michael Cascio:

he's want to start Dibble and dabble and with him kind of in

Michael Cascio:

the main event, kind of seeing or having some number one

Michael Cascio:

contenders matches, I then it makes sense, because you just

Michael Cascio:

beat a legend and John Cena so now he's got that mark on his

Michael Cascio:

budget, and that this guy's legit. An

Sarge Riley:

awesome theory. Mike. He's only 2425 years old.

Sarge Riley:

He's got a bright future ahead of him. Yeah. And maybe it's the

Sarge Riley:

what WWE is trying to tell you. If you really look through the

Sarge Riley:

lines here that this might be the next John Cena. It could be

Sarge Riley:

we don't know. But you know, Cena comes back, puts them over.

Sarge Riley:

And then of course Cena a couple of weeks ago, when he was in

Sarge Riley:

Boston at the raw. He gives Cody Rhodes the hug right there. So a

Sarge Riley:

lot of things being passed down like he's he's essentially,

Sarge Riley:

he'll retire probably sooner than later. That'd be it. Yeah.

Sarge Riley:

You know, he's definitely the back nine for his wrestling

Sarge Riley:

career. But, you know, I just think that Austin theory that

Sarge Riley:

WBC has a lot of potential in him. They really don't started

Sarge Riley:

with Vince McMahon with that golden egg. And he saw right

Sarge Riley:

away with the Survivor Series A couple of years ago, you know?

Michael Cascio:

Oh my god. You know, whenever whenever Vince

Michael Cascio:

McMahon does something like that, I just think of like the

Michael Cascio:

curse of Drew McIntyre for all those years when he did that, oh

Michael Cascio:

my god, I remember when he dubbed him it was just like the

Michael Cascio:

you just you just said no pressure or anything, but you're

Michael Cascio:

a future champion. It's

Sarge Riley:

a rip. It's a riff it's is ripping him, right?

Michael Cascio:

is unbelievable. I gotta say, I I've really

Michael Cascio:

enjoyed the feel of this, this theory and seeing a storyline.

Michael Cascio:

There's something about it that reminds me of back at

Michael Cascio:

WrestleMania 19. When Jericho fought HBK it was very much that

Michael Cascio:

same kind of feel of this is my mentor. i You are the reason I

Michael Cascio:

became a professional wrestler, and now they get to fight at

Michael Cascio:

meaning. So it'll be really Yeah,

Sarge Riley:

absolutely. Absolutely. Very excited to see

Sarge Riley:

how this goes. And just to be in the same ring right there. It's

Sarge Riley:

seen it to get them back. That's pretty damn awesome if you ask

Sarge Riley:

me. So those are the two other ones. You know, and, you know, I

Sarge Riley:

know you mentioned to Mike, potential other opponents for

Sarge Riley:

Roman down the line. But a guy who's really I think skyrocketed

Sarge Riley:

big time over the last few months and made the title more

Sarge Riley:

relevant is the Intercontinental shooter. Right. Oh

Michael Cascio:

my god. Absolutely. So

Sarge Riley:

you gotta watch his match here at WrestleMania it's

Sarge Riley:

gonna be the triple threat with Seamus and Drew McIntyre. Right.

Michael Cascio:

Absolutely. Yeah. So it Yeah, it's it's good

Michael Cascio:

winter Seamus and Drew McIntyre. That's going to be a great

Michael Cascio:

matchup. I really, I feel like that's sort of like a dark horse

Michael Cascio:

to steal the show. Is those three, you wouldn't imagine it

Michael Cascio:

because it's not typically it's not a bunch of high fliers here.

Michael Cascio:

But I think these guys are going to beat the hell out of each

Michael Cascio:

other and it's going to be fun to watch. Absolutely.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah. And, you know, Tripoli. Gunther is a

Sarge Riley:

Triple H guy. He's a Triple H guy NXT through and through. I

Sarge Riley:

mean, before that he was Walter, right. Yep. And I actually was

Sarge Riley:

at NXT TakeOver in New York. 2019. And it was right before.

Sarge Riley:

What was it? 37 Winamac. 35 Wrestlemania 35. Yeah. And, you

Sarge Riley:

know, that was one Gargano beat Adam Cole, but it was a 25

Sarge Riley:

minute match for the United Kingdom championship. Just a

Sarge Riley:

classic match. Walter beat Pete done. And I'm like, Who is this

Sarge Riley:

guy? I didn't really know too much about them. But I'm like I

Sarge Riley:

was really invested in sure he's been he really got caught up

Sarge Riley:

now. Why? Just the baby fat or whatever you had around there.

Sarge Riley:

But I was really invested in them in Triple H is that was his

Sarge Riley:

guy, and you can see the evolution of him. So if you if

Sarge Riley:

we've seen what he'd done, he's done so far, he's probably going

Sarge Riley:

to have himself a good Wrestlemania match. And that's

Sarge Riley:

when you should really watch keep an eye on that Triple

Sarge Riley:

Threat one there, too. Yeah,

Michael Cascio:

definitely. That's that's sort of a dark

Michael Cascio:

horse for me to steal the show. Another one that I'm looking

Michael Cascio:

forward to. And I know it hasn't been announced yet. But I feel

Michael Cascio:

like it's all but Dominic versus Ray, I just want to see yes, I

Michael Cascio:

want to see that with a personal stipulation of mine that if he

Michael Cascio:

loses, he has to go on a&e 60 days in and actually do time in

Michael Cascio:

prison. But that's just that's just my own. My own take on

Michael Cascio:

this. But I think one of the funniest bits in wrestling right

Michael Cascio:

now has been his week to week, just talking about, like his

Michael Cascio:

afternoon and county jail. This is, like the biggest issue of

Michael Cascio:

his of his life. So I don't know why Dominic kind of cracks me

Michael Cascio:

up. I think he's, uh, he's, he gets a ton of heat. So I think

Michael Cascio:

he's been really great for the Judgment Day. Well,

Sarge Riley:

the fit exactly. And the fact that, you know,

Sarge Riley:

turned on his dad and given the low blow there in edge to the

Sarge Riley:

cloud that crush the castle pay per view is proving to be, you

Sarge Riley:

know, a huge game changer for where we are now. So that that

Sarge Riley:

right there, but I look at it. Where you know, this, Mike, I

Sarge Riley:

mean, that's Ray Mysterio. Son, he's gonna put his kid over,

Sarge Riley:

he's gonna put them over. And I think that I wouldn't be

Sarge Riley:

surprised if they make that a retirement match stipulation.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah. That might be I can

Michael Cascio:

see that going in the Hall of Fame this year.

Michael Cascio:

Anyway, so just Yeah,

Sarge Riley:

yeah. Goes on my fam. Yeah. And, you know, he's

Sarge Riley:

just doing it to put a son over. And I think that's the best

Sarge Riley:

thing to do it and best way to do it, and probably the biggest

Sarge Riley:

honor he could ever have to.

Michael Cascio:

Right. Absolutely. I mean, what a

Michael Cascio:

moment between those two, they were already able to be tag

Michael Cascio:

champions at one point. Yeah, I think this is, this is a, I

Michael Cascio:

think it's gonna be sort of a tender moment. But definitely,

Michael Cascio:

even with everything that Dominic's been doing, I think at

Michael Cascio:

the end of the day, absolutely. might have some teary eyes in

Michael Cascio:

the building that night. Oh,

Sarge Riley:

yeah. No doubt. No doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Six, one,

Sarge Riley:

none.

Michael Cascio:

I know. So all right. Last thing I want to

Michael Cascio:

bring up about this card, please. Yeah. I think it's

Michael Cascio:

amazing that Lita and Trisha are going to be on a card in 2023

Michael Cascio:

app right now. Right? That's phenomenal. That's phenomenal.

Sarge Riley:

It really is. It really is. Yeah, here they were.

Sarge Riley:

When you look at 25 years ago, bra and panties matches right in

Sarge Riley:

the women's elevation where it's come to this far here in WWE,

Sarge Riley:

and to you know, even showcase main events. Lita and Trish were

Sarge Riley:

at the forefront. They're like, I know, you know, they're great

Sarge Riley:

looking women, but they weren't in that category, too. I guess

Sarge Riley:

you could say be in the bra and panties matches, they should

Sarge Riley:

have had their own matches, they should have had their own

Sarge Riley:

WrestleMania moments. And this is I think what they're getting

Sarge Riley:

repaid for, for kind of paving the way if you will, for the

Sarge Riley:

Becky Lynch's for the Charlotte's for the Bianca Bel

Sarge Riley:

Air's for the Oscars, all that stuff right there. I mean, hell,

Sarge Riley:

China, we know about her, no doubt about that. But you know,

Sarge Riley:

she's no longer with us, as we know. But those two right here,

Sarge Riley:

they're right at the forefront as well. To have that

Sarge Riley:

athleticism and showcase their wrestling town and the rink toe,

Sarge Riley:

and I'm happy for him to get their WrestleMania moment right

Sarge Riley:

here, then pretty good. Yeah. And yeah, people too. Yeah. The

Sarge Riley:

couple of generations ahead of them. Just very, very nice

Sarge Riley:

people.

Michael Cascio:

Oh, totally. Totally deserving. I think I've

Michael Cascio:

seen you know, Jr. is very excited about all this, you

Michael Cascio:

know, even though he's working for Aw, I think he's he's just

Michael Cascio:

pumped to see that they're in a Wrestlemania match. I think it's

Michael Cascio:

awesome.

Sarge Riley:

100% 100%. Yeah, well, he shot to both right.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, yeah,

Michael Cascio:

he's got this special place in his heart for

Michael Cascio:

those. His all Sinese. So it's really cool to see that.

Michael Cascio:

Absolutely. You know what, there's a match that keeps like,

Michael Cascio:

I feel as though it's just gotten lost in the shuffle. But

Michael Cascio:

Bianca Belair versus Oska on paper. Seems like it's gonna be

Michael Cascio:

a barn burner, but there's been like, not a great story leading

Michael Cascio:

up to this for some reason. I'm just not feeling it. Yeah,

Sarge Riley:

I'm with you, too. You took the words out of my

Sarge Riley:

mouth there, Mike. I really have no big investment on this one

Sarge Riley:

here. And it's crazy because two years ago, Bianca Belair closes

Sarge Riley:

out. Night One of WrestleMania with Sasha Banks first ever

Sarge Riley:

women's main event for Wrestlemania which is awesome.

Sarge Riley:

And Bianca Belair is a true babyface, as we know through and

Sarge Riley:

through in the company, WWE the way she's come up and so forth.

Sarge Riley:

But I Don't really I'm with you. I've no real sizzle on the steak

Sarge Riley:

on this one for me. I just, yeah. Not something's not

Sarge Riley:

clicking on this one. So, I mean, with all due respect, if

Sarge Riley:

you're going to be at WrestleMania, this might be the

Sarge Riley:

match to go up to the restroom or the concession stand, will

Sarge Riley:

say, hopefully I'm proven wrong. I

Michael Cascio:

know. I know, if it was up to me, Oscar would

Michael Cascio:

have been just straight he'll like, when she came back at the

Michael Cascio:

rumble. I thought she was gonna sort of assume that persona that

Michael Cascio:

she had in Japan, and people were all up in arms about it.

Michael Cascio:

And it's just been now we're gonna push her as a face. And

Michael Cascio:

it's like, Yes, first face kind of thing. And it's just not

Michael Cascio:

really working for me. But we'll see. We'll see what happens at

Michael Cascio:

the show. But I hope it's a good match. I think they both have

Michael Cascio:

the capacity for it. Absolutely. So

Sarge Riley:

they do they definitely know Bianca Bel Air

Sarge Riley:

is awesome. She's got a huge fan base and great, great in ring

Sarge Riley:

performer. True woman's chant and like I said, a true baby

Sarge Riley:

fish here on out from the start to finish WWE. It's really been

Sarge Riley:

amazing how I don't think she's ever been a hill right now.

Michael Cascio:

I don't think so either. No, she was sort of

Michael Cascio:

down. I mean, maybe down in NXT. But even then, I think kind of

Michael Cascio:

quickly turned. So

Sarge Riley:

yeah. Yep. So So all

Michael Cascio:

right. I feel like we've covered a lot of the

Michael Cascio:

matches here. Is there any any that we forgot about that? That

Michael Cascio:

you're you're finding yourself drawn to or that you want to

Michael Cascio:

make sure we give some shed light on?

Sarge Riley:

You know what? don't rule out Seth Rollins,

Sarge Riley:

Logan Paul, that could be a good one. You know, Seth Rollins. I

Sarge Riley:

think anything he touches is just funny. He's a funny guy. So

Sarge Riley:

he's he's done everything asked of him. And something

Sarge Riley:

interesting could happen here on this one, Logan Paul with the

Sarge Riley:

social media stuff. You know, maybe he does like a live

Sarge Riley:

Instagram or something for the on the magic, anything. And just

Sarge Riley:

to generate that they're just, I don't know, there's some sort of

Sarge Riley:

curve, I think, but that's just I like Seth Rollins, like it's

Sarge Riley:

been really funny with this. Brock Lesnar almost. That's just

Sarge Riley:

Vince's way Well, back in the day, like, Oh, those are the

Sarge Riley:

guys going through the year. Yeah, you know, in this huge,

Sarge Riley:

all my us. But, you know, I think in the end, and you and I

Sarge Riley:

know, I think Brock Lesnar is just there for the pay day.

Sarge Riley:

Right?

Michael Cascio:

He's absolutely just there. Yeah, he'll

Sarge Riley:

do whatever, whatever's necessary. Right.

Sarge Riley:

Right.

Michael Cascio:

I think he's, he's smiling and having a good

Michael Cascio:

time now, but he is just there cashing the check at the end.

Michael Cascio:

Yeah. Hey, you know, what your approach is your approach to

Michael Cascio:

this business. But, you know, hopefully, it doesn't go the way

Michael Cascio:

of his match with Dean Ambrose. A cup, right? There's some

Michael Cascio:

actual like, I don't know investment into this match for

Michael Cascio:

on him on his part. We'll say, right,

Sarge Riley:

right. And you know what? Anytime you get a Hell in

Sarge Riley:

a Cell. I'm all for that, too. I like hell on a cell. So give me

Sarge Riley:

edge when I think

Michael Cascio:

that'll be good. I love Finn. Balor. So I'm happy

Michael Cascio:

for him that he finally gets like a really prominent program

Michael Cascio:

and a singles match. I think it'll be good.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, yep. It's gonna be good. Very excited. So

Sarge Riley:

how about you what match you most excited for? I know, we

Sarge Riley:

talked Cody and Roman. And

Michael Cascio:

you know, honestly, for me, I do think my

Michael Cascio:

personally, it's edge and Finn Balor. I love I mean, I think

Michael Cascio:

edge edge has done great, since he's come back. And, and he's

Michael Cascio:

really recovered since the whole Judgment Day, like kind of

Michael Cascio:

fiasco. So I think it's been, it's been really good for him.

Michael Cascio:

And like I said, I've I've been a Finn Balor guy since the very

Michael Cascio:

beginning, since since he was over in Japan. And then he came

Michael Cascio:

over to NXT. And, and just like the lackluster runs he's had on

Michael Cascio:

the main roster in the past, but this this time that he's finally

Michael Cascio:

found his footing, and you can see the guy is comfortable. So

Michael Cascio:

I'm just so happy to see him in that place. And, uh, he again,

Michael Cascio:

he's a Triple H guy. So he's finally getting that that chance

Michael Cascio:

to shine the way he sort of deserves it. Because he's sort

Michael Cascio:

of at the tail end to he's in his 40s. At this point, I can't

Michael Cascio:

see him doing it much longer, as in phenomenal shape as he is. I

Michael Cascio:

do think that it's really been great for Finn Balor to shine,

Michael Cascio:

and I'm looking forward to this man, I think it's going to be

Michael Cascio:

really good. As well as the the triple threat match. I just

Michael Cascio:

yeah, those guys are so hard hitting. And I think it means a

Michael Cascio:

lot like you were saying for the Intercontinental title, because

Michael Cascio:

you have two guys and Seamus and true former champions in their

Michael Cascio:

own right, and have also been booked pretty strongly in

Michael Cascio:

general, even without a title in the last couple of years. So I

Michael Cascio:

think that adds to the prominence of this where in the

Michael Cascio:

past, this might have been kind of a throwaway, like maybe a

Michael Cascio:

ladder match or something where it's just, it's kind of just

Michael Cascio:

there for the thrills and the spots. And not necessarily for

Michael Cascio:

oh, this means a lot. These are three guys that could be a

Michael Cascio:

champion in the next year. Right.

Sarge Riley:

Right. Definitely. Definitely. And again, the whole

Sarge Riley:

evolution here of the Triple H footprint, if you will, on the

Sarge Riley:

future WWE it's really taking shape now. And yeah, you're

Sarge Riley:

absolutely right. Those are the guys I think, who he sees and

Sarge Riley:

what he sees For the future here, because, you know,

Sarge Riley:

essentially with the goon through the awesome theory, and

Sarge Riley:

even like I mentioned before to the split of the titles, Roman,

Sarge Riley:

Cody, if it's going to be split, if you can do that, and if it

Sarge Riley:

doesn't happen WrestleMania will happen eventually. So it's gonna

Sarge Riley:

be a good show. I'm looking forward to a two nights so my

Sarge Riley:

guy who, you know,

Michael Cascio:

are you going you're you're going to both

Michael Cascio:

nights, attending

Sarge Riley:

both nights. Yes, attending both nights now. Last

Sarge Riley:

year, I was only at night two in Dallas. And this was the second

Sarge Riley:

go round last year with fans for two nights as we know, I still

Sarge Riley:

am kind of a traditionalist. I like the kind of like the one

Sarge Riley:

night a little more if you can cut it down, but I get it. They

Sarge Riley:

want to get everyone on the card. And it's not all drawn

Sarge Riley:

out. Because one night and like 15 matches. It's a long time,

Sarge Riley:

right? Yeah, it is a marathon. Yeah. And I just remember the

Sarge Riley:

one in New York. WrestleMania 35 2019. The Women's main event

Sarge Riley:

went on at midnight.

Michael Cascio:

That's that crowd is exhausted. It's so hard

Michael Cascio:

to make up for that kind of thing. Oh, my

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, way too much. It suck the area with too much.

Michael Cascio:

Big time. Yeah. Well, I did hear that Triple H

Michael Cascio:

is wanting to start condensing the Wrestlemanias. But as I'm

Michael Cascio:

looking at the card right now, Mike, well, there's still going

Michael Cascio:

to be about seven matches apiece per night. So yes,

Sarge Riley:

seven apiece, but it's a little you can they've

Sarge Riley:

trimmed the fat a little bit, which is good,

Michael Cascio:

you know? So no, no battle Royals, any of that.

Michael Cascio:

As much as I get why they want to keep everybody on the card.

Michael Cascio:

But I mean, you kind of watering down the WrestleMania moment.

Michael Cascio:

Well, that's

Sarge Riley:

exactly it. Yes, that's exactly it. You look at

Sarge Riley:

the old WrestleMania I mean, they had five, six matches at

Sarge Riley:

most. And yeah, just you. That's exactly what you want to have

Sarge Riley:

that last moment. I mean, back in the day, it was Hogan must

Sarge Riley:

pose we know that. For the end, but still, though, you want to

Sarge Riley:

have the big moment that you remember not like oh, that

Sarge Riley:

happened there. When am I what happened is yeah, you know?

Sarge Riley:

Yeah. So things along those lines there. Well,

Michael Cascio:

let's, let's get into a couple of questions here.

Michael Cascio:

Some of your favorites. Yeah. This before we started recording

Michael Cascio:

today, but yeah, what's in what's your what's your favorite

Michael Cascio:

celebrity parents? You know, we're gonna have Logan Paul on

Michael Cascio:

here. And I'm sure there'll be some surprises in the crowd,

Michael Cascio:

because it's going to be in Hollywood. We're going to have

Michael Cascio:

some actors there. What? Who do you find to be some of your

Michael Cascio:

favorite celebrity appearances at Mania?

Sarge Riley:

Oh, man, I will always go back to the one here

Sarge Riley:

in Boston. WrestleMania 14, and this was before the Red Sox

Sarge Riley:

broke the curse and Pete Rose comes out. And he is the ring

Sarge Riley:

announcer for Kane and the Undertaker's match. gets on I

Sarge Riley:

was there for that made me 14 And Pete Rose and I was with my

Sarge Riley:

dad. And my younger brother to my dad was like, so pumped up

Sarge Riley:

superheroes he actually gave him a big standing ovation and all

Sarge Riley:

that and, you know, and he's like, should be in the Hall of

Sarge Riley:

Fame, you know, and big, big believer in that. So rose gets

Sarge Riley:

in the microphone. It just starts getting heat right away.

Sarge Riley:

You know, Curse of the Bambino, the lighthouse, Buckner doing

Sarge Riley:

and just everyone is throwing heat on him. And next thing you

Sarge Riley:

know, Kim comes out gives them the tombstone and the places

Sarge Riley:

roars absolutely erupted. Cheering so I love that one.

Sarge Riley:

That was great. Obviously, Mike Tyson being there for the the

Sarge Riley:

awesome car, right. Amazing. Yeah, I think the greatest

Sarge Riley:

celebrity match of all time, though, was a couple of years

Sarge Riley:

ago. With Bad bunny.

Michael Cascio:

Oh, my God, he was phenomenal. Wasn't he?

Michael Cascio:

Right? That match?

Sarge Riley:

Mania? 37 You know, yeah. And he, Bunny and Damien

Sarge Riley:

priests in the MS. They're all right there. I thought he was

Sarge Riley:

really really good. Did a really really good match. So I asked,

Sarge Riley:

you know, yeah, for unranked performances, but those are my

Sarge Riley:

favorite that's my favorite celebrity while in the Pete Rose

Sarge Riley:

in the can I always love that.

Michael Cascio:

It was such a good I liked her. They had like

Michael Cascio:

a running gag. It was like three years in a row, but just Pete

Michael Cascio:

Rose will like find his way into WrestleMania and Cambridge

Michael Cascio:

tombstone. Yep.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah. How about yours? What was your favorite?

Michael Cascio:

I so I was gonna say Pete Rose, but so that he is

Michael Cascio:

up there, but I this might not be a popular one, but I actually

Michael Cascio:

really liked Floyd Mayweather his involvement. I thought you

Michael Cascio:

did. I Dude, I don't I know that it's not popular opinion, but I

Michael Cascio:

was like, he got a lot of heat. And I think that's I think

Michael Cascio:

that's what I'm about. It's like, well, it's gonna get

Michael Cascio:

people get people's eyes on the product because they so he him

Michael Cascio:

just being involved in anyway. I thought it was really great. But

Michael Cascio:

I think it was it after last year Johnny Knoxville, Johnny

Michael Cascio:

Knoxville was, oh my God as a celebrity match. Yeah,

Michael Cascio:

phenomenal. Key. I mean, it was exactly what it needed to be him

Michael Cascio:

and Sandy's match. And you know what he just like bought in he

Michael Cascio:

was a guy that wasn't afraid to get thrown around. And I know

Michael Cascio:

I've seen some other celebrities like, you know, Hugh Jackman had

Michael Cascio:

a great little thing one time on Raw, but, you know, like, as far

Michael Cascio:

as like being on like, that kind of stage WrestleMania and Johnny

Michael Cascio:

Knoxville, just like sure I'm gonna get tossed around and it's

Michael Cascio:

fine. I can do this. Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was

Michael Cascio:

a it was a nice fun match. You know, so for me that those are

Michael Cascio:

some of my favorites. Ya

Sarge Riley:

know, I got some good ones. You know what else to

Sarge Riley:

I was watching WrestleMania 10. The other day just poking around

Sarge Riley:

on that. Burt Reynolds he was a ring announcer for the Yokozuna

Sarge Riley:

Bret Hart match. Also, Donnie Wahlberg, New Kids on the Block.

Sarge Riley:

He was the ring announcer for Yoko and Lex Luger, the first

Sarge Riley:

match there, you know, and then of course, you go back to

Sarge Riley:

WrestleMania seven. Regis Philbin was there. He there was

Sarge Riley:

a cool moment where he interviewed the Undertaker and

Sarge Riley:

pallbearer and the undertaker they're measuring him like

Sarge Riley:

Exactly, yeah, so it was pretty funny. Alex Trebek was at that

Sarge Riley:

one too. I saw some good ones over the years. They always try

Sarge Riley:

to have the celebrities and it's you know Hollywood I think

Sarge Riley:

they'll probably throw do whatever they can to get their

Sarge Riley:

weight around on that one. For this one this time around here

Sarge Riley:

but Andy Kaufman the lady in the commons going into all fam,

Sarge Riley:

right? That's gonna

Michael Cascio:

be that's really cool. Like that guy that was

Michael Cascio:

deserving. That's very charming in my view, yeah.

Sarge Riley:

Posthumously, of course, but you know, that'd be

Sarge Riley:

it. But yeah, things along those lines here. They'll they'll do

Sarge Riley:

something good with Hollywood but some good celebrities over

Sarge Riley:

the years. Vince has pulled them out of his sleeve on that one.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah.

Michael Cascio:

And so the next question I have for you, I think

Michael Cascio:

this will be our this will be our last one we'll follow up

Michael Cascio:

we'll finalize which is usually the hardest one overall favorite

Michael Cascio:

mania.

Sarge Riley:

I mean, I am gonna be biased because of 14 I do

Sarge Riley:

admit that the you know, it may not have been the best show but

Sarge Riley:

it may have been the most significant WrestleMania 14 Like

Sarge Riley:

you know, you look at Stone Cold Steve Austin look at the Rock

Sarge Riley:

were just a day after he turned while he became the leader of

Sarge Riley:

the nation of domination they Yeah, the tease that and then he

Sarge Riley:

was off to the races not that he wasn't but he was really that

Sarge Riley:

solidified he was champion later that year the rock 98 You know

Sarge Riley:

Triple H in becoming the new leader of dx after Shawn got

Sarge Riley:

hurt. Austin McMahon notes were right there it all began

Sarge Riley:

Undertaker and Kane still continue their storyline. Some

Sarge Riley:

really good stuff. I mean, Foley was the Cactus Jack, but he went

Sarge Riley:

back to mankind a couple of months later and got thrown off

Sarge Riley:

the hell in the cell. So you had so much there. And 98 Where you

Sarge Riley:

carried some stories for the next three, four years. And you

Sarge Riley:

know, whoever had the line initially, Hogan made Vince a

Sarge Riley:

millionaire Austin minima billionaire. And that's really

Sarge Riley:

how it was like it's I love that one. I also I'm a sucker for

Sarge Riley:

Wrestlemania 10 Because like so good. Right? You like that one

Sarge Riley:

too?

Michael Cascio:

Yeah, I used to own the VHS of it. I would watch

Michael Cascio:

it over and over again. So yeah,

Sarge Riley:

yeah, just like I'm a sucker for it because kayfabe

Sarge Riley:

was so alive. It was after Survivor Series here in Boston

Sarge Riley:

93 and a nose kind of like that was not a good show but that was

Sarge Riley:

where Owen Hart turned on Brett and then we've got the Owen

Sarge Riley:

Brett match which was amazing at at many attend Brett wins the

Sarge Riley:

title that that night Luger. I thought he had a shot. That's

Sarge Riley:

never saw it. Yeah, you know, I don't know someone made the

Sarge Riley:

reference to me not too long ago that Cody Rhodes might be the

Sarge Riley:

new Lex Express. I'm like, Oh, come on, please.

Michael Cascio:

Not even I don't see that at all.

Sarge Riley:

But yeah, they just don't like Cody that's that's a

Sarge Riley:

problem. That's what that is. Yeah, the person will go

Sarge Riley:

unnamed. But you know many attend though. I really liked

Sarge Riley:

that a lot too. And those probably 14 and 10 about you You

Sarge Riley:

haven't what's your favorite one?

Michael Cascio:

Well, well first I want to say I think I think

Michael Cascio:

big Vito, if he was here today, he would agree with you because

Michael Cascio:

he was also at WrestleMania 14. So I know how much that means to

Michael Cascio:

him. So shout out to Vito, I know, I know he can't be here

Michael Cascio:

today, but we are with you. We are with VATable. So for me, I,

Michael Cascio:

by the way, you eloquently put that the meaning of WrestleMania

Michael Cascio:

14 about the show, and then really sort of set up the rest

Michael Cascio:

of the year, and sort of how significant it was. So I

Michael Cascio:

appreciate that. For me, I gotta say, is WrestleMania 17. I

Michael Cascio:

always come back to that one. Because it was it was this is

Michael Cascio:

sort of a little bit of the opposite where I felt like from

Michael Cascio:

top to bottom that card had everything you needed. It

Michael Cascio:

covered all bases. I mean, even had a really fun hardcore Triple

Michael Cascio:

Threat Raven, Kane and Big Show like they just kind of tossed

Michael Cascio:

each other all around. It was kind of short and sweet, but

Michael Cascio:

exactly what it needed to be. They got the Titan Tron

Michael Cascio:

involved. And by the way that Titan Tron holy cow, that was

Michael Cascio:

the first time I had seen something that massive and it

Michael Cascio:

was like the big design everything and like, I remember

Michael Cascio:

playing the video games later on, just so that I could play at

Michael Cascio:

the WrestleMania stage. It was awesome.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, obviously. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. No, I know

Sarge Riley:

you're gonna get to go ahead finish it. I know you're gonna

Sarge Riley:

get to the seven you're not gonna

Michael Cascio:

get to like, probably the best promo package

Michael Cascio:

of all time is Oh, yeah. Limp Biscuit with for the main event

Michael Cascio:

of rockin Austin, which, you know, that's just probably their

Michael Cascio:

best match that they've had at WrestleMania. But there's so

Michael Cascio:

many other ones on there, too. I mean, you know, we have the

Michael Cascio:

Undertaker and Triple H like really just stole the show. And

Michael Cascio:

I mean, it's kind of

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, and that match was not supposed to be on

Sarge Riley:

the card Undertaker Triple H it was a last minute throwing.

Sarge Riley:

Because they they said we gotta get the undertaker in the car.

Sarge Riley:

And they finally did. And then like just a last minute throw.

Sarge Riley:

It was crazy. So much. What a last minute. That the only thing

Sarge Riley:

with Mania 17. To your point. I mean, I liked it that the

Sarge Riley:

problem is that finish stone cold. I know. It's like no.

Sarge Riley:

Ultimate. And that's why I have a problem with that being the

Sarge Riley:

greatest man of all time. People say it was so good. Everything.

Sarge Riley:

Why the hell are you doing that? And and I know listen to Jr. He

Sarge Riley:

said it. Yeah. You know, Austin wanted to go he'll and Vince

Sarge Riley:

said we owe it to him. We owe it to him. And they did it just and

Sarge Riley:

I think he did say it's a major regret his regret in his career

Sarge Riley:

doing that. So that's why I have a problem with Mania 17 as the

Sarge Riley:

greatest of all time, and people go off of that. And Mike Knight,

Sarge Riley:

I don't know. That's the way it ended. Like what the hell? What

Sarge Riley:

is this? You know, everyone confused. It

Michael Cascio:

shouldn't happen that way. And even Austin's gone

Michael Cascio:

on record now and said, You know, I was just feeling stale.

Michael Cascio:

I was worried. And so I thought I needed to change this up.

Michael Cascio:

Really, he shouldn't have done that at all he should have had,

Michael Cascio:

I think he brought it up. And this actually would have been a

Michael Cascio:

nice ending where he actually has been has helped him win and

Michael Cascio:

then he stuns him. And then just so would you actually would have

Michael Cascio:

been very odd brand for Austin at the time. Like okay, sure.

Michael Cascio:

Thanks. Thanks for helping me out. But I'm gonna send you

Michael Cascio:

anyway, that

Sarge Riley:

would have been I think he wanted to be like the

Sarge Riley:

WWE is version of the NWO with Hulk Hogan, you know, and you

Sarge Riley:

can't always duplicate things like that. And that's just how I

Sarge Riley:

thought dealing with the heel thing there. Just it didn't,

Sarge Riley:

didn't work. And then, you know, that same year is when WB bought

Sarge Riley:

WCW at the invasion, Austin came back to WWF. And then he goes to

Sarge Riley:

WCW. It's like, what what are we doing here? What's going on? So

Sarge Riley:

I don't know. They're just so hot. And then it's like you get

Sarge Riley:

out of the left lane and you go all the way to the grainy lane

Sarge Riley:

on the right lane. What are we doing? You know, so that's why,

Sarge Riley:

I don't know, the emotions are really high. And then all that

Sarge Riley:

happened there on 17. You know, I'm glad that you're after we

Sarge Riley:

had the moment with the rock and Hogan and Toronto. That was fun.

Sarge Riley:

That was really cool. You know, and then the year after Austin

Sarge Riley:

loses to the rock is retirement match if you will. 19 But yeah,

Sarge Riley:

just those are some good ones over the years. Definitely. I

Sarge Riley:

mean, even go back to the mega powers exploding WrestleMania

Sarge Riley:

five. Hogan slams Andre the Giant Macho Man Ricky steamboat,

Sarge Riley:

a mini three. Through a great, great moment students. Yeah,

Michael Cascio:

at WrestleMania four I loved because it was the

Michael Cascio:

tournament. I don't know why but for a good tournament. That's

Michael Cascio:

why I'm happy with King of the Ring coming back to because I

Michael Cascio:

just liked a good tournament.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it gets a little motivation to

Sarge Riley:

it. Yeah, it and then the the Million Dollar Man and the

Sarge Riley:

championship match, right?

Michael Cascio:

He got he was awesome. Yeah, it was great.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah. So WrestleMania is over the years,

Sarge Riley:

no doubts and you Yeah, it's we'll see what happens here. And

Sarge Riley:

I hope Cody wins. I hope he does. But you have to have that

Sarge Riley:

caveat there, Mike there, that web might just protect their

Sarge Riley:

guy. So yeah,

Michael Cascio:

I think I think there's nothing else we can say

Michael Cascio:

there were that's a great, great ending statement for it. So

Michael Cascio:

we'll see what happens in about right about a week's time. So

Michael Cascio:

crazy. See, I know. So, Mike, I know. I know. We're coming up

Michael Cascio:

against it. But you know, any any other final thoughts about

Michael Cascio:

you know, your your trip to mania? You're gonna be there

Michael Cascio:

anything you're looking forward to? End? Tell, tell the

Michael Cascio:

listeners what you're up to and where they can find you. Sure.

Sarge Riley:

I appreciate that. Mike. Thank you. Yeah. Have you

Sarge Riley:

ever been? You've been to Wrestlemania? You were in New

Sarge Riley:

York, right?

Michael Cascio:

Yeah, I've been to two I was at the one I was at

Michael Cascio:

29 at MetLife. And then I think it was 34 it was the second time

Michael Cascio:

they were in New Orleans. We were

Sarge Riley:

okay. I was at that one too. Yeah. New Orleans.

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, that was like we may have been sitting near each other. I

Sarge Riley:

actually liked that. WrestleMania a lot. 34 I love

Sarge Riley:

that one. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah. And actually it also

Sarge Riley:

selfishly enough like you had there with the rock his last

Sarge Riley:

match that was Undertaker's last entering match in front of a

Sarge Riley:

crowd. So I didn't

Michael Cascio:

even realize that but you're right. Oh, John

Michael Cascio:

Cena. Were there for that. Okay, we're

Sarge Riley:

there for it. We were there. Yeah, he accepted

Sarge Riley:

the challenge. So absolutely squashed Cena but Cena want to

Sarge Riley:

put them over that's kind of guy was that because the year before

Sarge Riley:

he loses the Roman Reigns, which was a terrible match. To close

Sarge Riley:

out the show. Just you know. But I so there is a thing at

Sarge Riley:

WrestleMania weekend called wrestle con you ever heard of

Sarge Riley:

that? Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So did you go to it when you're in

Sarge Riley:

New Orleans? Wrestle con?

Michael Cascio:

No, no, we didn't get to go. Okay.

Sarge Riley:

All right. So I'm staying at the I'm very excited.

Sarge Riley:

Where wrestle con is going to be in Los Angeles. It's near the

Sarge Riley:

same hotel where it's going to be held. And you know, I've been

Sarge Riley:

fortunate enough to meet a few of the the old timers there in

Sarge Riley:

the past and you know, no longer performing. But, you know,

Sarge Riley:

Austin Goldberg, I met them through it Kurt Angle, but this

Sarge Riley:

year on my, my list, and I met him a couple of years ago at

Sarge Riley:

sports world and Saugus would actually the late Scott Hall at

Sarge Riley:

the time, too. It was Kevin Nash. So I'm really excited to

Sarge Riley:

see Nash. And I also found out the other day that both members

Sarge Riley:

of the Bushwackers are going to be there. Because typically it's

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, and typically Mike it's only just Butch that travels

Sarge Riley:

looked at travel too much. So it's going to be Butch and Luke.

Sarge Riley:

Both of the bushwhackers very excited for that. And I've also

Sarge Riley:

I didn't meet him a few years ago but I really want to get Arn

Sarge Riley:

Anderson wanted to the four with him right there. And pretty sad

Sarge Riley:

enough to like ironically enough in sad very sad for both

Sarge Riley:

situations aren't just lost his son last week 30s Right. And

Sarge Riley:

Kevin Nash lost his son this year too. So yeah, and they're

Sarge Riley:

both on my you know, guys to meet and sad enough that they

Sarge Riley:

have to they went through that which is terrible so I can't

Sarge Riley:

even fathom what they're going through but just very sad. So

Sarge Riley:

wrestle con Long story short, that's happening over the course

Sarge Riley:

of the two three day window there will probably be a tourist

Sarge Riley:

will probably go down to the Hollywood sign will go down to

Sarge Riley:

Hollywood Sunset Boulevard, going out of the grog Mann's

Sarge Riley:

Chinese Theater and you know, check out the stars down there

Sarge Riley:

and, and all that stuff and have some fun. But we're out of there

Sarge Riley:

Monday, so I'm not staying for the raw after hitting the road

Sarge Riley:

back to Boston. All right. All right. But but I'm excited to be

Sarge Riley:

good and, and for those and again, thank you very much for

Sarge Riley:

having me on here. Mike's been a lot of fun talking with you. I

Sarge Riley:

really appreciate it

Michael Cascio:

and so great to have you on Mike I'm really

Michael Cascio:

thankful that you were able to get the scheduling all set up

Michael Cascio:

here. So you know,

Sarge Riley:

just a quick backstory for this for people

Sarge Riley:

that are listening and for with my care. I met Mike and his

Sarge Riley:

buddy Vito and mango at a fundraiser for my girlfriend's

Sarge Riley:

brother back about a month ago, and they asked me to come on the

Sarge Riley:

show. And I was like, hell yeah, let's do this. And just so

Sarge Riley:

pumped to do it. But it's just Mike today so everyone else

Sarge Riley:

build up. I guess they're scared of us now. I think they were

Sarge Riley:

Yeah, we'll talk trash to them, you know. But it was a lot of

Sarge Riley:

fun. And I really appreciate you having me on and, and like you

Sarge Riley:

said, you can I'm on Twitter, Instagram, the handle is at

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Sarge 25 occasionally on the sports hub, check it out

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whenever you can. And then if you ever had Gillette Stadium

Sarge Riley:

for a pass or Rebs game coming in, please drop a line say

Sarge Riley:

hello. Maybe we can try to meet up before or something but just

Sarge Riley:

listen carefully They're every home game. For both of them.

Sarge Riley:

They're we're in full revolution season right now. Just started a

Sarge Riley:

couple of weeks ago. And if you ever want me for your own

Sarge Riley:

voiceover can also host private events. Please consider me for

Sarge Riley:

that. Email. Sarge. sports@gmail.com Start

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sports@gmail.com Boom. There you go. Mike Trout. Awesome.

Michael Cascio:

That's right. That's right. Well, Mike, I

Michael Cascio:

really appreciate you being on here. It was so great to have

Michael Cascio:

you. And you know what, we're gonna have to have you back on

Michael Cascio:

at some point in a while. Once we get Vito back in here, maybe

Michael Cascio:

we'll get mango into we'll have a party here. We could talk

Michael Cascio:

about Wrestlemania. Maybe we could do something towards

Michael Cascio:

SummerSlam season. We'll figure this out for sure. So we're

Michael Cascio:

going to have you back on

Sarge Riley:

your the mad dash. I appreciate you, buddy. Thank

Sarge Riley:

you so much. All

Michael Cascio:

right. All right. Thank you. And

Michael Cascio:

WrestleMania

Michael Cascio:

happy WrestleMania season. Thank you. Yes. So I want to say thank

Michael Cascio:

you to everybody for listening today. Now, just to be on the

Michael Cascio:

lookout guys because we also have another episode coming your

Michael Cascio:

way a little bit later this week. Probably next week, is

Michael Cascio:

actually our first repeat guests. Russellville is Brittany

Michael Cascio:

berry will be on to talk about his new book The Pro Wrestling

Michael Cascio:

vol volume two. So keep an eye on those podcast feeds folks

Michael Cascio:

because we got some good stuff coming your way. Once again,

Michael Cascio:

thank you to Mike for being on. But until then, enjoy your

Michael Cascio:

WrestleMania season and keep on struggling to bronies

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