What if loving people well could actually change the world—starting with your corner of it?

Have you ever felt exhausted by a difficult relationship, wondered how to love someone who keeps hurting you, or questioned whether you're truly making a difference with your life? In this special 200th episode of The Collide Podcast, Willow Weston revisits one of our most-loved conversations with Bob Goff, recorded live at a Collide Conference. Through unforgettable stories, contagious humor, and biblical wisdom, Bob reminds us that living with purpose begins by knowing we're deeply loved by God—and allowing that love to shape the way we love others.

Meet Bob Goff

Bob Goff is a New York Times bestselling author of Love Does, Everybody Always, and Undistracted. He's the founder of Love Does, a nonprofit organization that pursues justice for women and children in conflict zones around the world, and is known for making big faith feel practical, joyful, and deeply personal. Through his books, speaking, and everyday life, Bob encourages people to stop merely talking about love and start living it with courage, purpose, and compassion.

In This Episode, You'll Discover…

• How to love difficult people without losing your peace by keeping your eyes on Jesus instead of trying to change everyone else.
• Why knowing you're deeply loved by God changes everything—including the way you see yourself and those around you.
• How to navigate broken relationships with grace and healthy boundaries while trusting God with the outcome.
• Why your words have the power to bring life and how speaking with intention can transform your relationships.
• How to live each day with greater purpose by becoming the person God already sees you becoming.

How This Episode Will Encourage You

Friend, if you've been discouraged by difficult relationships or wondering if your everyday life really matters, this conversation is a reminder that your purpose isn't found in having all the right answers—it's found in faithfully loving the people God places in front of you. Keep your eyes on Jesus, trust who He's shaping you to become, and let His love overflow into every relationship.

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And so there's something beautiful about that in your relationships, as you're navigating your relationships with your kids, with your husband, with your girlfriends. I would just get the moon in the window. And if faith is a big deal for you, I'd get Jesus right in the window.

I wouldn't be putting your friend or your husband or whoever else in the window. I'd put Jesus in the window. I'd keep aiming for that. And then I would bring people along with me.

Welcome to the Collide Podcast. We're a growing community of everyday chicks colliding with Jesus in our mess, our pain, our joy, and our stories.

We value showing up as we truly are, so that's what you'll find here. Walls and masks being torn down so that we can allow Jesus to meet us where we truly are and hear about other women doing the same.

We can't wait to collide with you.

Hi there and welcome to the We Collide Podcast. I'm Willow Weston, the founder and director of kolide.

And if you're not familiar with KOLIDE and you're just popping in here today, we're a community of just everyday chicks running into Jesus in our pain and brokenness and seeing him bring about great transformation in our lives. And we invite you to collide with us.

We invite women all over the place to collide, and we do this through Bible studies, both in house where we're located, which is Bellingham, Washington. But we've also written and published some Bible studies.

We have a mentoring program and a counseling program where we're inviting women to say yes to wholeness. We offer classes and resources and all sorts of outreach.

But one of the big things that we do around here is that we have conferences that we put on for hundreds of women in our home base here. These conferences are life changing, where women of all ages gather together and powerfully collide with Jesus and leave forever changed.

And you guys are in for a treat today because we're sharing with you the audio from our most recent event where we invited our new friend Bob Goff to come and share about what it means to love everybody always. He just came out with an amazing book that if you haven't read, you should certainly read. Called Everybody Always.

And I got the opportunity at our last event to do a Q and A session with Bob, and that's what we have for you today.

For those of you that weren't at the event, you have to know that we pulled a prank on Bob when he came out and he walked out Actually, with tissues for me. Because I had just gotten done giving a pretty vulnerable message. And he was so sweet to hand those to me.

But as he walked out, we dropped a huge amount of plastic crocodiles out of the ceiling to pull a prank on him, which is a book reference from one of his books. And I will talk about that in the Q and A.

But we can't wait for you to hear all the treasures of wisdom and the beautiful stories that Bob shares today. So check this out.

Without further ado. Right.

I get to introduce you to the husband of Maria Goff, the New York Times best selling author, the honorary consul for the Republic of Uganda for the United States, the coolest lawyer on the planet, and the founder of Love does, an organization that pursues justice for women and children in conflict areas. This man has an office on Tom Sawyer's island in Disneyland, because why not, right? And he shares his phone number with everyone.

And he's sharing his night with us tonight. He's whimsical, pumped about parades, and seems to carry balloons, buckets, and medals everywhere he goes. He'll make you laugh. He'll make you cry.

And most of all, he'll inspire you to live this call out that God has on your life to love as he shares what that call looks like in his life. So will you guys welcome me with great joy and gratitude? Bob Goff, You missed your croc. You know, we try to make dreams come true around here, Bob.

And we know that you've always wanted to, you know, be a part of a croc drop. Did you bring this out for you?

No, for you. Well, then you never know. I'm emotionally incontinent.

I make people cry at any time. It's a gift of mine. Yeah. Here. We could share. We're big on recycling around here in Bellingham. It's like a big thing.

Okay.

Oh, my gosh.

Hi, everybody.

Oh, my goodness. Okay, so for those of you that have not read Bob Goff's book, he.

The reason why we dropped crocodiles here is that he writes a chapter in his book about how he got asked to speak somewhere in the Midwest or something by a guy with a Southern accent.

And you thought that he asked you.

To show up to a croc drop? Croc drop.

Yeah.

And you were stoked.

I'm like, yes, right.

And so you. You went. People on the way down there weren't crocodiles to your dismay?

No, it was a crop drop. I'm like potatoes. I'm like rat.

That close. And so, really, like, we practiced this just happened and it was glorious. And they all fell down separate and stuff for you.

They just all wanted to come together.

No, this is good. These are going to look great in the overhead.

Oh my goodness. Okay, so you are a New York Times best selling author. Did you ever think that your books would do this?

No, of course not. I can barely spell cat.

So you have a good editor.

Yeah, no, actually I don't. Because it wouldn't sound like me that if you had somebody else who were writing these things that it would just sound like them rather than me.

So I just kind of like. It was very tedious. But the deal was this. This publisher said, will you write a book? And I said, I don't know, will you build a school?

I'll trade you one school for one book. And they said, well, tell me about the school. I said, all right. 1,000 Child soldiers in northern Uganda and 100 teachers. And they said, big school.

I said, big book. And I made them pay me in advance. I didn't know if it'd be stink,.

But that's a story.

Yeah, that's how it happened. Literally, if I made cupcakes, people would die. But like one typo, like, no big deal.

So I read everybody always this summer. And my husband walked in one day, cuz one second I'm laughing, one second I'm crying.

And he walks in the living room and he's like, what is wrong with you? And I was like, bob Goff is wrong with me.

And then I handed him the book and he read it in two days, took a selfie, which is super weird for him, and sent it to all his bros. And then they all read it. Yes. So yes, your people love you. Yeah.

So if you just decide. One of the things that I found out in doing the book was that the best chapter titles come later.

So when I turned in the manuscript, it actually didn't have a name and none of the chapters had titles. Because if you've encountered experience, say rejection, somebody said, I don't want to do this relationship with you.

You would probably title that chapter Rejection. But a little bit later you'd probably call it more accurately Release. Right.

There might be something that hurts your feelings where you're deeply wounded. And you would write that chapter and say, I'm out. But just give it a little bit and you'll probably retitle that more accurately I'm back.

So what I do is I just write all the way words and then just find better titles later. And I've tried to do that. In my life, too, instead of trying to figure out in real time what's going on.

Because we've all been wounded and we're so touched by your story, but I think God writes these better chapter titles for us.

So, you know, I've kind of been joking around calling you the love guru or the poster child for love. But is that feeling, like, a lot of pressure?

No, actually, I think all of us want the same things. We want love and purpose and connection and a couple authentic relationships. I don't know if the list is much longer, but for me, that's about it.

Like, to have to experience love, to be cared for, and then to have connection. Like the kind of connections that you're making, not just with the people that you've met, but the people that you might meet.

And then to have a couple authentic relationships, like the kind that you were sharing, which would be authentic relationships. Yeah, I want to have those conversations with people. And so I just have some of mine in writing.

That's cool. So was there a moment for you that's kind of like pre Bob Goff getting love and post Bob Goff getting love?

Yeah. Well, I'm thinking we all change over time and. And thankfully, so that's the idea of being new creation.

Like, so I'm going to be 60 in February, and I've left sweet Maria this morning, waved goodbye at the airport, and she actually doesn't even know where I am. Isn't that crazy?

That is crazy. Should we call her real quick?

No, we never. We could, but she wouldn't answer the phone, unlike me. But one of the things.

One of the things we decided to do in our relationship, I bet 30 years ago, is we decided we were taking geography off the table. We don't want to talk about, like, where we are. We want to talk about who we are. We don't want to talk about career. We want to talk about character.

And so we talk really about how we're feeling less than what we're doing. Does that make sense? Like, just talk about how you feel.

And so even when you go home with your husbands or boyfriends or you got to pick one, it's another discussion. But, like,.

I just got that.

I'm just saying. But talk about how you're feeling. Feeling about things. Don't say, I want a hamburger. Say, I'm feeling hungry.

It's like carving a new little groove in your brain. And until you get to decide in your relationships what you're just not going to talk about. And so when people ask sweet Maria Goff. Where's Bob?

She always says he's on his way home. Because I'm always on my way home. So what if we're that. That we continue to return to the people that we love? And then here's the trick.

Once you're home, not just be in proximity with each other, but to be present with each other. And I can say, women typically are a lot better at that than we are as men. But to just be present.

We play catch with a softball when we're at home and talking. I don't even like baseball, but we play catch. If you answer your cell phone, you lose teeth. It's like that idea of being present with each other.

So being present, talking about how you're feeling about what's happened to the day. Get your husband's mood rings. Get them for your children for a dollar and a half. Say, why did it turn blue?

And there's something beautiful you're talking about. We can actually pick what we talk about. One of the reasons that I've enjoyed writing books is you get to pick what you're talking about.

And after love does. I was supposed to have another book written, and I was five years late. I just didn't have anything to say.

I'm like, o. I had another book that was due August 31st. I'm like, but I haven't even written one word. Sue me. Like,.

So they just call you every week or whatever?

Yeah. They're like, where's the book? I'm like, nope.

But I think I've read some books that because somebody was on a deadline, not because they actually had something to say. And I think particularly, I would say, speak to you women, that your words really have a lot of weight.

And the way that you say what you say really matters in the hearts of your kids and the men that love you. And it's just crazy. If you want an experiment, walk into a room full of men and just say, I feel really safe around you.

Every guy in the room would be like, yeah, it's like a card trick. And so knowing. Knowing that your words have that much power, I'd be really careful about what you say.

You know, one of the women, I put my cell phone number on the last page of the book. It's been awesome. There's 2 million people with my cell phone number.

And there was a woman that called, and she said, a friend gave me this book, and she had read it, and she's going in for a brain operation. She got a tumor in her brain, and I Said, well, you know, are you worried going into this? He said, here's the deal.

When they go and operate on the tumor, they take out the part of my brain that lets me speak. Can you imagine that if you had two days to talk to anybody for the rest of your life? And so I said, what are you saying to your friends?

And you know what she said? I'm being really picky about what I say. And so, James 3 this idea with our tongues, we can praise God and curse men.

I'm actually trying to be really picky about what I say, what I write, when I actually mean what I say.

Mean.

When I'm singing songs along with the worship band, I only sing the words I mean because I don't want to be like, singing things to God that I don't mean. What I do is I just assume you mean it and I let you carry me along. Oh, really?

And then my desire to be able to sing every verse, every word, but to be so self aware that you actually know where you're at. And there's a beautiful thing that comes from that. When we have women that actually know where they're at, and men too.

But I'm telling you, women drive so much of what's going on. I am the Consul General for the Republic of Uganda. You know what Uganda did? They fired every male ambassador on Earth. They replaced them with women.

Because guys have conversations, women make moves.

Yeah.

Wow.

It's crazy. So your words. Use your words with people wisely.

Who would you say has been the single most influential person in your life?

The single most influential woman. Sweet Maria Goff. And it isn't. We don't call her Sweet Maria because we're trying to talk her into it.

If you met her, she's just like, so angelic, but for a man. Some of you may have read Don Miller's book. He rode a million miles in a thousand years and blew like jazz.

So Don has been a really important person in my life because he's really authentic. And that's what I get back to. You know, I know an astronaut, but he wasn't the most influential. It was impressive that he, like, did spacewalks.

But what impresses me is people that are willing to be vulnerable to just say, you know, I don't care what my faith looks like. I want to talk about what it is. And I think God isn't dazzled by big words. He's wowed by big love.

Wow. And you made Donald Miller a chapter in his book, did you not?

I didn't even know. He didn't ask.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Wow. I think he should build a school for you.

I know, right? He's terrific.

You know, so many of us read your books and we're inspired and we want to walk out and the world and love people. Have you ever experienced a relationship that wounded you and it kind of threatened your capability to love?

Well, oh, yeah, I think, you know, here I'm a guy that writes books about loving people. Really? Well, I have a sister that I haven't spoken to in 32 years, two months and three weeks. I know that because she came to my wedding.

And I don't know what she's like right now. Now I remember 32 years ago, she was mean as a rattlesnake. And so there's some people in your life that are just.

You just need to keep a little space with. I'm not throwing her under the bus. I actually don't know her. But one of my friends, dawn, told me, you know, it's been a couple decades.

What if you were to reach out to her? And so I wrote a letter to her. I didn't say, like, what did I miss? I, like, I just. I wrote a letter and. And I didn't hear back from her.

And I just assume that she's dealing with her stuff. Like, we're all insecure. We just deal with it. Now. Writing the letter didn't make me the hero, and not hearing back didn't make me the victim.

It just made me a participant. And if we're moved from, like, observers to participants, that's where the good stuff happens. That's where you grow.

That's why this idea of loving everybody always, not just some people sometimes, because that's easy. I mean, loving you, that's low hanging fruit, right? Because who wouldn't love you? Yeah, but find somebody who actually creeps you out.

Here's the crazy part. You know who you are. But, like, the crazy part is that we're the people that creep some other people out.

I think we're all, to a greater, lesser extent, a kind of an equal acquired taste. And so I just assume that people are just dealing with their own stuff and they're growing at different rates.

I mean, I keep putting things in the microwave and God keeps putting them back in the crock pot rats. If you want a radish, it takes one seed in 20 days. If you want a pear, it takes one seed in seven years.

And I keep trying to hurry up over God's doing in somebody else's life.

And what sweet Maria, among other things she's taught me is to keep my eyes on my own paper and not to be rushing it for somebody else, but to just look inward to say, what's God doing in me? And how do I be the newest creation in me, the humblest next version of me? Wow.

So you talk about loving in 30 second increments and I'm wondering what your advice is on loving in like 30 year increments. You know, when you think about your sister and we all have relationships like that where it's the long haul. Love for the long haul.

Yes. It's about kind of like seeing who people are becoming. And there will be some relationships that you have that will be fractured.

And I just believe in God's power to restore those at some point. But we need to be available to do our part in there.

And there's people, again, that will be just toxic to you and you ought to keep your distance from. But there's a lot fewer of them than we think there are.

Just because someone is difficult, it just means that they're different most of the time that God's up to something different in their life. Like, I mean, take it on Saturday. There's going to be a wedding planner and she's going to be praying for sunshine. And what's the farmer praying for?

For. Yeah, and it doesn't, if it rains a couple drops doesn't mean God doesn't like the bride.

He's just up to something different in somebody else's life than he's up to in the farmer's life. And so that's what I'm trying to do, is to just chill out a little bit, not be trying to figure. And listen, I pick juries for a living.

I'm right for a living. You'd know if we were arguing, because I'd be winning. But I'm not trying to be right. I'm trying to be Jesus. And there's a big difference.

It'll take a quarter of a twist to get there in the way that we deal with people. It'll be some small little movements. I got a call from a guy last week and he said, bob, tell me the one thing about relationships.

It's a terrific question, totally unreasonable. I said, like asking an astronaut, what's the, the one thing about getting to the moon? I'd be like, I don't know, arrive.

But there are more parts to that. I'd say get a good rocket. Don't spend a lot of time talking about the color of your Rocket ship, right?

Find some other people that you want to travel with for a while. And then what I would do. What I would do is get the moon in the window. I would just keep aiming for the moon. Right?

And so there's something beautiful about that in your relationships, as you're navigating your relationships with your kids, with your husband, with your girlfriends. I would just get the moon in the window. And if faith is a big deal for you, I get Jesus right in the window.

I wouldn't be putting your friend or your husband or whoever else in the window. I'd put Jesus in the window. I'd keep aiming for that. And then I would bring people along with me.

And I'm a lousy evangelical because I don't think we lead people to Jesus. I think Jesus leads people to Jesus. Our job, love people, be picky about what we say. Get the moon in the window.

So, you know, I don't know. I think you must have heard something because you brought me some tissue. I did.

I was back there.

Was really touching.

I was going for that. But what I was going to say is that we are talking tonight about this. This idea of loving from a place of knowing you're loved.

And I was wondering if you would be willing to share with us that if you think back on your life to the first time that you felt unlovable, what was that like? And if you could go back to that guy, that kid, what would you want to say to yourself?

Yeah, I think I spent a lot of times. Like, I figured out there were girls and there were boys in junior high and all that, but I just never had anybody that wanted to hang out with me.

I mean, sweet Maria Goff was my second girlfriend, like, ever. I was 26 and out of law school, so didn't have a lot of experience with that. But I knew what it felt like to be loved by my grandmother.

I knew what her love was. And the times when I'd feel really awkward and really, like, kind of like, why am I so lame? Because I was really enthusiastic, like that kid.

I was really happy. I would, like, always experiment. I had no eyebrows. They would burn off. Like, I just. I was that kid and I was ricocheting.

Like, I'm just exploding stuff all the time. And then so I. She just accepted me for who I was. She saw who I was turning into. Just like you mentioned, like, Jesus to Peter.

He didn't say, you're such a wuss. What do you mean? You don't know me. The rooster. He said, Peter, you're a rock. He saw who I was turning into.

And I think that's when I've experienced the most love. When I had somebody that saw me in a way that I didn't see myself yet.

And I would say for each of you, like God sees you for the women that you're turning into, not all the things that you've been, but who you're becoming. I think that's a trick to love. Loving without an agenda, for seeing.

It's not just optimism, it's just seeing clearly that you're on this adventure and you're evolving. And so Maria did that for me and I liked her, but she didn't like me back as much as I liked her.

My prayer was just, if she could like me half as much as I like her. I liked her enough for both of us. But then at some point, I think she saw who I was turning into, which was a better version of me.

And she's still waiting, like Jesus, like patient. And when I mess up, she doesn't wave a bony finger at me. She just sees. She actually has a picture of me when I was 8 years old.

And when I screw up, which happens from time to time, she'll get that picture out and she'll just see little insecure Bobby Goff. He's just an older version of that. And what if we did that for the people that we love?

They just to see them is just for a little bit that they're this person that's still emerging and working through their stuff. I'm not saying give people license to do whatever they want in your life, but to be a little bit kinder, a little bit more grace filled.

Yeah, those are the people that have affected me the most.

What would you want to say to 8 year old insecure Bobby Goff, if you could?

Oh, it'll work. It'll work. Yeah, that thing. Yeah, it'll work. And most of us are either reflections of or reactions to the people we were closest of.

Wouldn't you agree? He was just like. So I go to the south for long enough, I start saying y'. All. A total of nobody in Southern California says y'. All.

And that's rounding up. I mean, like never. But I say it because I'm a reflection of those people, but I'm also a reaction.

Like, I was raised by parents who were very, like, nervous about everything. They're always scared of things. And so I'm a reaction to that. I grew up in a family where there weren't a lot of Hugs, Actually, none.

And so I'm a reaction to that. I like hugs, people. Oh, their words like I love you weren't spoken a lot. It didn't mean that they didn't love me.

It was just.

I'm a react. Guys that write books called Love does are reactions to that. So my thought is this. What if we're beautiful reactions to what's happened to us?

There have been some pain that we've all gone through, some sense of loss. Be a beautiful reaction to that.

You don't have to react in anger, which he could react to some little self care and healing, knowing that there's been some tough stuff and not go it alone. I mean, I've had a counselor that I've spoken to. That's not shame. That's just beautiful. Get another tool in the tool chest to reach for.

Like, that's just a beautiful thing.

So how do you know God loves you?

How. How are you certain? How are you sure that God loves?

Yeah.

I have not heard God's audible voice yet. I've been keep asking. I'm like, one sentence. I won't tell anybody. I'll tell everybody. One word. Let me buy a vowel, anything.

But I think this idea, I've written about that before, that God doesn't pass us messages. I think he gives us each other. And so what I've seen is the presence of God in people's lives, and then it's guided a lot of what I do.

Oh, and it starts like, you guys know this idea of loving your neighbor that you talked about so well, like, the reason I wear this stupid Red Sox hat. I'm not a Red Sox fan. I'd never even gone to a game. But my neighbor Carol was a huge Red Sox fan and she.

We knew she was going to be with Jesus by the end of the week. And so we made a deal.

And I said, carol, I'll wear your Red Sox hat for the rest of my life, but in exchange, you need to mention my name to Jesus every time he walks by you. There's a verse that said, I knew you not. I'm like, carol, so know why you're doing what you're doing.

And if we could realize people's pain, I mean, during this World Series, which again, for a guy who's never going to a baseball game, like, people would hiss at me because they were rooting for the Dodgers, and if they actually knew the story about Carroll, they wouldn't have done that. Right. And I think if we actually knew other people's pain we wouldn't be reacting to them the way when they say something super lame.

We could just maybe have the grace enough to say they're probably battling so something pretty fierce. And it's coming out in a really awkward way. So I'm making it sound like I've got that figured out. I'm not there, but I've got.

I know where I'm headed. Like, I'm keeping the moon in the window.

Well, I have a few more questions to ask you. In a room full of women who can sometimes struggle to feel like they're lovable, what would be the one thing that you would want to say to us?

I. I think you ought to know your name. Like, of every single name in scripture that you could be called. They called you the bride of Christ. Isn't that crazy?

Like, that you're actually the bride?

And, you know, have you ever gone to a wedding and maybe your husband's sitting next to you, and the bride walks down the aisle and he holds like, 6.5 and said, like, I've seen better. Like, of course not. What makes the bride look terrific is that the groom knows everything about her. He can't wait to spend forever with her.

And that's how God feels about you. He just can't wait to spend forever. He wants to see the new. He knows all the stuff that's happened. And yet you're his bride.

And what we need to do is get our eyes off of each other, back on the groom. And that's when it gets really good. And so I would say to your voices really, really matter. They actually carry far.

I live down on the bay with sweet Maria, and people know where we live now. And they come by on their boats and they talk about me.

It's so awkward because they don't know I can hear what they're saying because their voices carry over the water. And here's what I'm finding. I'm finding in the world that humble voices carry further.

And women of God, if you want your voice to carry far, just be humble. But being humble doesn't mean being silent. You raise your voice and you just say, it'll be a declaration of faith. Every selfless act of love.

You know who you are, and you say, this is what I meant to do. I'm gonna go do that. And I'm not letting people stand in my way. But you don't do it. You have all the attitudes you want.

It just needs to be the attitude of Christ. Right?

Just that.

Just that.

Yeah. No big thing on page 27 of Everybody Always. Which, by the way, if you don't have a copy of his book, go to bobgoff.com. Yes, yes. To get your books.

You've never bought your own book. Okay, I'm pretty sure I did the research. That's where you go to used bookstore.

And get one for a nickel.

This is what you say. He says, I don't know if the streets of heaven are lined in gold, but I'm kind of hoping they're lined with balloons.

At the end of the parade, I bet we'll find Jesus blowing us kisses, rubbing our noses and welcoming us to the next neighborhood. I just hope I get a house next to Carol.

Yeah.

You made me fall apart, Bob. And I'm wondering, when you get to the perfect place and you hand God a balloon, what will you say to him?

Oh, man, I just. I think I would ask him, what did I miss?

Because Matthew 25 is one of the few scriptures that talks about what that moment will be and talks about sheep and goats. But he means like me and you. And remember he said I was hungry and you fed me. I was thirsty and he gave me me something to drink. I was a stranger.

I was kind of creepy. And you invited me in. I was. I was sick and you comforted me. I was naked and you clothed me. I was in jail and you came. So that's it.

I would just say, what did I miss? And I think what it's going to be is this beautiful unlearning of things that we thought we had pegged like gay, straight, Buddhist, Baptist.

I just think there's just going to be this beautiful unlearning. I think that's why eternity is going to take so long. And another thing, my. No, no. That guy. No. So I'm just gonna be ready.

I don't think it's just gonna be. I don't think it's about humiliation. I think it's gonna be a loving father that says, yeah, you just didn't know it was me. That was me.

That person that creeped you out, that was actually me. And what I've done is I've seen. Spent my whole life avoiding the people Jesus spent his whole life engaging.

And so what I'm trying to do is just engage some of these people with love and a little bit more compassion and empathy. Because I don't think Jesus is going to woodshed us in heaven. But I think I just want to anticipate that, like, what did I miss?

And he gave you a lot of direction in Matthew 25. So it'll be the people that you've avoided. They'd be like, or you were just polite too. He goes like, oh, I just didn't need polite.

I actually wanted love.

Wow. Well, you write in your book and I have to get something because we have something for you.

But you write in your book about how you were in a taxi, right?

Yeah.

And the guy was about to retire. Am I right?

Yeah.

Am I getting an A? And like I'm writing the book report or whatever. And so you just said, let's switch seats.

Yes.

And you switch seats and you drive him around, he tells you all about.

His limo drive, and we swap places.

Yeah.

And your whole thing, which is so profound, is that Christians ought not to be these people who walk around and tell everybody everything they need to do differently, but we should walk around and tell people who they are.

Bingo.

Right?

Yeah.

And so tonight we want to tell you who you are because you're spending so much time telling other people who they are. And so we had this hand graved medal made for you and we might have some for the ladies later.

And it says, you are loved because you are an inspiration.

Thank you.

And a child of God that's changing kids. So thank you.

Wasn't that amazing? I mean, I feel like I could listen to Bob Goff talk all day long when I was interviewing him.

I just wanted to have a journal and a pen and write down all of his quotes and reference his stories so that I could skim back and look later.

And one second I'm cracking up and the next second I feel like crying, and the next second I feel like getting up and, I don't know, waving my spirit fingers and yelling, amen. But he was an amazing man to meet in person, to learn from and to gather from.

And I hope today somehow this interview with Bob blessed you and we would love to hear from you. What stood out from this Q and A? What tips do you have for loving everybody? Always leave a review on itunes. We would love that.

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