In this first episode of season 4, and as the UK heads back into lockdown, we think about grief.

In the wake of Bristol's Good Grief Festival, we talk to Eva Hibbs author of a picture book called Where is Uncle AL? and together with illustrator Sarah Harrison, they discuss how the book came about, why we need to get better at talking about death in a more straightforward way and how Covid may be changing our approach to grief.

To find out more or to buy a copy of the book, click here.

A donation with each purchase goes to Action for Children

And we have music from Some Bodies, courtesy of Funnel Music

PLUS - our usual round up of positive responses to the virus from around the world....

Music:

Ain't Over Yet , Some Bodies

Hot Flu, Seb Gutiez, The Old Bones Collective - opening music

Hosts: Melissa Chemam and Pommy Harmar

Producer: Pommy Harmar