Healing from the Inside Out: Nervous System-Based Care with Dr. Hamad Shirazi

What if the reason your body isn’t healing has nothing to do with effort, discipline, or doing more but everything to do with your nervous system?

In this episode of Beyond The Pills, we sit down with Dr. Hamad Shirazi, chiropractor, movement specialist, and nervous system educator, to explore why so many well-intentioned healing protocols fail and what actually creates lasting change in the body.

Dr. Shirazi shares how traditional approaches to fitness, chiropractic care, and even wellness can unintentionally keep people stuck in cycles of pain, burnout, and disconnection. When the nervous system is chronically dysregulated, the body prioritizes survival over healing—no matter how “healthy” your habits appear on the surface.

Through breathwork, embodiment, and nervous-system–first care, Dr. Shirazi introduces a radically compassionate model of healing—one that focuses less on fixing symptoms and more on restoring safety, presence, and connection within the body.

If you’ve tried “everything” and still feel disconnected, inflamed, exhausted, or stuck, this conversation offers a reframe that may finally make sense of your experience. You’ll learn why slowing down is not a setback, how listening to your body builds true resilience, and why healing isn’t something you force—but something you allow.

This episode is especially powerful for high performers, athletes, healthcare professionals, and anyone who has been conditioned to push through pain instead of understanding it.

Listen now to discover how nervous system regulation, intentional movement, and embodied awareness can transform the way you heal—physically, mentally, and emotionally.

🔗 Learn more about Dr. Hamad Shirazi: www.coachshirazi.com

📲 Follow him on Instagram: @drhamadshirazi

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Powerful Quotes from the Episode

1. “Your body isn’t broken, it’s responding exactly the way a nervous system does when it doesn’t feel safe.”
2. “Healing doesn’t come from forcing change; it comes from creating the conditions where the body feels safe enough to change.”
3. “When you stop trying to override your body and start listening to it, healing becomes inevitable.”

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Join me and other practitioners as we guide you towards vibrant health, body, mind, and spirit, and move beyond symptom management into true healing. Hello. Hello. Welcome back to Beyond The Pills. I'm Josh Rimini, your host, pharmacist, and turn, Keeler and today's guest. Guest. Um, we share some common bonds, and Dr.

With over a decade of experience as a personal trainer and a holistic health practitioner. Dr. Hamad blends chiropractic care, integrative movement, breath work, and lifestyle medicine to support true healing from the inside. From the inside out. His work is rooted in aligning the body, calming the nervous system, and reconnecting people to the fundamentals of health, breath, movement, and presence so they can restore vitality, enhance performance.

Let's just start, you know, what originally called you to just chiropractic care and holistic healing?

Hamad: Well, the chiropractic care took some time to find me when I was a baby, turning into, you know, a young child. I naturally gravitated towards athletics very.

And I think, uh, my desire for athletics naturally led me into more of a approach involving fitness.

Eric: Yeah, we had talked a lot about that. How do you sort of, your, your life story kind of brought you down that holistic path in a natural way. And I think a lot of the stories we have on this show are from that synchronistic perspective, right?

Like, things happen and, and lead you towards that thing. So you've studied exercise, science, physiology, chiropractic medicine. At what point did you realize that like. Where, where did the true healing part come from? Beyond the mechanics and the adjustments, right?

Hamad: Mm-hmm.

Eric: Because that's, that's what we're here to talk about.

It's like going beyond these, these modalities and, and moving into these true healing modalities.

You know, I have those degrees, but I often say most of my training came from experience and overcoming adversity, as well as helping others. Through overcoming their challenges and achieving their goals.

Eric: Well talk, talk a little bit about that because I think that's the story of transformation that we keep talking about and we keep moving towards is like, I always, I always said this 'cause I've trained a lot of practitioners, especially pharmacists 'cause that's where my background came from, is.

We go to school to help people, but then we get out into the world and we, we truly feel like we're not really helping them because there's systematic things that are kind of tying our hands to what we really thought we could do. But talk to people about your, your, your personal story and how this kind of unfolded for you, because I think 100% of these conversations for me is always rooted around.

The healer, their wounded healer's journey, like they've healed themselves and then it crosses over into what you do for others.

When I was 12 years old, I, you know, I grew up in Atlanta. Nine 11 was a global event that took place and with my background and upbringing, there was a collective shift and I realized that's when my energy started to constrict. I remember, uh, that's when I started to lose my vision a little bit. Uh, I was a basketball player.

I started to get, feel pain and I started to have all these physical ailments that before. I didn't have, and I think with the awareness and knowledge I have now is I was embodying a lot of emotional pain and suffering that I did not know how to regulate, how to process. I, I wasn't able to articulate and share what was going on within and I took to working out athletics.

Eric: Yeah, I think that's, uh, so much. I think that's, that's really the key element of the, what I believe modern medicine is moving towards, right? We've gotten to this place of. Connecting all of aspects of life, really. Right. You talked about the lifestyle components, the holistic component, the body mind connection, the energetics, the soul level.

And so why are so many people disconnected from their bodies today? This is something that I've been working on myself personally over the last couple years, is the embodiment practices and really going back into this. So I want, I want you to get your take on this because. You've gone the holistic route, but you've also gone the chiropractic route.

So you understand that the, there is this deep connection between the two, but I want, I want your opinion on this.

So connecting with self, connecting with the breath, let's say even from a training example. Start with body weight, start with breath, start with foundational movement practices. Then let's move into weight training. All the stimulus, all these intense exercises, and it's, it's. A fundamental shift in, in mindset and philosophy as far as beginning, uh, in the moment with your breath, even from the core, right?

Rather than like train your shoulder, start with your deep core. And those are just some examples.

Hamad: Yeah. I think that throughout life we're so focused on everything outside the stress to survive, maybe financial stress to become, to live up to, you know, family standards and societal standards and this constant outward seeking that we, we lose track of.

Where we are. And then honestly, all the things that I've learned, they actually are quite simple, but we weren't taught I it. If it wasn't for all the things I went through and my strong desire to seek knowledge and seek the truth and figure out what works, I wouldn't have came across any of this information that I share with people now.

Eric: Yeah. I think intentionality is another concept and another thought provoking idea of like moving, you know, in my experience with embodiment practices and breath and like just mindful movement, I guess is the best way I say it is it really is about.

Being present, slowing down, getting out of the monkey mind to just be where you are right now. Right. And I think embodiment is like, where are you sitting? Where's your body? How do you feel right now? Right. And I think a lot of people don't, we forget. Right. It's like one of those things is like, especially when we're stuck on one of these all day and all of a sudden.

'cause it's so compelling for other people to realize. We talk about it a lot. You mean other people? It's like we've learned, we've teach through our experience now. Right? You've gone through this journey because you're, you had, talk a little bit about that. What was, what do you think's underneath your.

Your desire to learn and grow more. 'cause this is kind of where your path has brought you. You know, you're doing retreats. It's not just like the clinic care anymore.

Hamad: Yeah. I, I'm sharing, uh, you know, through this conversation more chronologically, so going through the Yeah. Steps. So I kinda shared about childhood and up until that.

And he said, if you study the personal training manual to become one, I'll get you one. So at the age of 15, I was studying bodybuilding, strength, and conditioning, and I became very like obsessed with it, right? Started doing the traditional bodybuilding, um, to progress through that story. By the time I was in 18 years old, 17, 18, I had chronic pain in my like chest wall, uh, ribs, shoulder.

I think most people now are training in a dysfunctional way, meaning the exercises that they are doing, seeking health and wellbeing is actually creating more dysfunction and this ease within the body. And I think that my story was more of a Guinea pig. I went through all of these and I had to do a lot of unlearning and reprogramming to get to the place that I am now.

Eric: Talk, talk a little bit more about that. What Give up maybe some specifics that people can relate to, like they might be thinking. 'cause it's a great point. Like we do a lot of things in the intention or the ethics of helping ourselves, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna eat right, I'm gonna exercise, but exercise is a big bucket.

Hamad: I could share so many different pieces, but I'll just begin with, you know, okay. Let's say in the gym. A lot of people train body parts in like a body building fashion. It's not really neurologically integrated and sometimes you're becoming less of a functional human being. So, uh, I started in the bigger, faster, stronger program and then was doing a lot of like, you know, bench press.

So even musculoskeletal cha, challenges can down the line, uh, contribute to other health, uh, challenges.

Eric: No, it, I love that the, the lens in which you're saying that, because a lot of the times we talk about that in like, in other aspects of our health. Like the, the part is the whole treat the body as a whole, right.

So is this part of how you practice with your clients and stuff like that? Or what, what are some resources we can think about as we're moving into the new year? As it relates to this kind of holistic movement and, and exercise.

Hamad: Yeah, I think even throughout this conversation I could share some of the foundational pieces.

And I am trained as a health detective. So when I, through a conversation and a connection with someone, I'll do a, a breath, posture, gait, mobility. Assessment. And then I also, uh, go through flexibility and joint as well as the spinal evaluation within, you know, a short period of time and quite quickly I can see where one may, uh, be out of balance and alignment.

So breathing, uh, I really value balance. Simple is balance, and then let's learn how to walk and reconnect with our feet. And just the most fundamental movement that a human performs is walking after we learn to crawl. So a lot of times we just need to get back and restore from infant development. And through that process and returning back to balance, then we can start to explore, you know, performance based training, athletic based training.

Eric: No, it does.

It's, I love that the. I loved hearing these things from different people, different healers perspectives, because you're coming from the energetic side of things and stopping the gaps and the holes from the physical realm. Into the energetic realm. And, and I've heard it from the other side too. 'cause there's no wrong or right.

It's just like, where do you focus and how do you improve? And like you said, where's the upgrade come from? Right. Where's the download and the upgrade come from? And so you're assessing the physical realm and moving it towards and, and applying it to the energetics, which is awesome because I think a lot of the energetic healers work in the energy fields.

It's similar to me like talking about, you know, balancing hormones. It's like, well, if I can't get your. Stress and your, your resilience in a better place. The other stuff won't matter right, as much because we try to go to the end thing, like sports performance, but you're like, learn, let's, let's see how you're, let's see how we can get you to walk the way you should, you know, and, and, and to get those core back into balance, like you said.

'cause I love wellness made simple. Like if we can start with the sim, the simple things first. It's like the 80 20 rule just goes in the right way. You don't even have, you allow the body to do what it's supposed to do. So you teach people from the very beginning of your client journey. What I'm hearing is you're teaching them those.

Fundamentals on a more robust level so they get the rest of it down the road.

Hamad: Yes, and to be fair, I wanted to address some of the points. Uh, I have aspired to have, uh, like simplicity because I think that that is correlates with wisdom. The simpler you can break it down, the more digestible and essentially in the way that I practice, there's also an arc.

But whenever I work with someone, I say, you know, heart. Head and hands is how I serve because I'm really just keeping mind repeat, clear to serve and support them. And that in involves, you know, the energetics. And I think that my primary role is to help people clear that energy within themselves through simple foundational embodiment practices.

Eric: I love this because that's. That's the essence of the conversations that I, I continue to have is the intersection of science and spirituality. Like not treating them as an or like we're, we're at the stage of human development and our, our own healthcare system into this healing, healing space.

Converges the two, like you said, you're working on it on a fundamental level and you're taking people where they're at. And you're also using the lens of a healer, the lens of an energy healer where you're taking that, but you're holding space. You're, you're, I love, I love helping with heart-centered, right?

We'll deal with that later. You know, it's like, no, it's like we we're dealing with it right now because you do this for this and you do this for this, which makes it this, you know, and the, and approach for people that aren't lists are just listening now watching, like it's, it's, it's the fusion of. You can call it energetics or spirituality.

I don't really, it doesn't matter what you call it there, but it's that fusion of both together that I feel is the catalyst for what we're talking about here, which is moving towards this healing perspective.

Hamad: Exactly. And also honoring each one of our unique paths. Yes, I think it's very important, and I've learned this.

I have overtrained, I've, I've. Learn through experience, the elements of grace, the elements of patience elements, um, of yin versus yang, and also understanding working in versus working out and finding balance and harmony in all of these elements.

Eric: So true and so important in this day and age is, you know, I think, I love where this is going.

That is, it is. The essence of this is like, I think getting people prepared to go on their journey and taking part in that is so important because we've been trained, we've been programmed, like part of our experience as a, they call it the, you know, the shamanic journey or the wounded healers journey where you've gone through your series of deaths, if you will, and you've rebirthed yourselves many times.

I've always heard this in a certain way, and it always resonates with me, is like when it's the hardest, it matters the most. Your healing journey, your lessons you learned didn't come from a book. It didn't come from being on vacation and understanding the, you know, the power of the energetics of the universe is like, no.

You had to go through your journey to learn patience, to learn receptivity, to learn these things as you're growing. So I love hearing that in you and, and through your story, because I think like with the pill for the ill or easy food, like all of that, it, it, it, it's attractive to under, it's attractive to think about, but it's really not reality.

Hamad: Yeah,

Eric: thank you.

Hamad: And I've been through, I would say, a few dark nights of the soul and those rebirths. And you know what? Even let's say where you and I, and we've had a great conversation and we saw parallels in our story. We're still going through it. Another, uh, piece that I would definitely want the listeners to, you know, be reminded of is it never ends.

We don't need to be perfect, it's just about incremental progress. We fluctuate with seasons of our life. And sometimes that's why it's, that's why I'm so focused on the foundations because we can, you know, have a season where we're super healthy and then we deal with maybe some trauma and then we, we kind of lose those elements.

And what I, I was actually sharing with a friend the other day. Is, let's say that in the holiday season we were eating a lot of junk food. We, we were not taking as great care of ourselves. And then we want to go super hard now, and what I was advising was, hey, like that's bringing the past into the present.

So it's like we're coming out the holiday season. Maybe we haven't been all on our Ps and Qs with the gym and exercise and all these elements, but hey, just let's get back to the basics little by little and then we can continue and our, that is also less stressful to our system.

Eric: Yeah, and it, it's a great, it's a great reminder, right?

You're balancing. 'cause we're never in balance, to be honest. We're always balancing something. Yes. And so I use the word balancing more than I need to get to a place where I feel in balance. It's like, I love what you said and I, I've used this quite a bit as like. When you understand that the journey never ends and it's okay, like there is a point of arrival there, right?

Where you're like, Hey, my journey is forever and I'm good with that because the journey is forever and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm every moment of the wave because there is seasons and, and moving it back into that, let's get our fundamentals, let's get our core. Let's go back to where it's kind of like in meditation, right?

They have. Cookie or whatever, like doesn't matter. It matters like when you go back into the level of those incremental moments, which makes sense that they all add up and it's not this one big like, oh, I'm gonna do the 75 hard on January 1st when I'm probably not prepared because there, there's a failure rate to that, which then becomes a downward cycle.

And then all this stuff, it's like. Let's not beat each other up, but let's not ignore the fact that we also have work to do. Right?

And that's why I'm always like, we just connect with our breath. We will connect more with our. Uh, sense of self and higher consciousness, which will guide us to making more conscientious choices. So sometimes it is that simple because it's like, let's say when I meet someone, I'll share. If you just master the breadth and presence, you'll be guided into your, the best outcomes for you, and maybe with the least amount of, you know, uh, veering off the path.

Eric: and I had to learn it my way. Right? It's like we all have to learn it like through, it's, it's, it's so fun to listen to the stories because of the common.

The common threads that they carry. Like every story, every journey, every surrender is unique. Yet the formula seems to have those cohesive spaces like surrender, like understanding in a, a fundamental I love exploring my consciousness and growth and, and becoming more whole to me was. Well, like moving towards something that you resonate towards with love with, with self fullness, so you're not selfishly doing it.

Yeah. But it didn't matter because I just needed to see it from that lens, what I felt like was fully authentic, more authentic human like my best self I've ever been because I went on the journey. I didn't, I didn't go on the journey and say, I'm going here. This is what I'm gonna do. It's like, no, I had an intention.

And then everything, I love the, the synchronicity of the breadcrumbs just fall in front of you as you keep aligning with what resonates or what lifts you up versus the things that take you away. And so your story got you to where you are today. And my story got me to where I am today because truthfully.

Better. It just gets a deeper, more leveled understanding of holy moly, things are way more than I thought when you start working on that inside stuff. So, um, let's kind of shift into that space. Like you, we talked about fundamentals over the fads, um, and moving from that perspective and, and where people can come back into their own balance.

But the more I've done those in a really, I call it, it's just kinda like. You know, you can brush your teeth every day with, with breath work or doing the fundamentals, but then you gotta go to the dentist and get a deep cleaning every three to six months, right? So these retreats for me serve as that sort of deep cleaning for my soul and my body.

But you're doing those now, we, we shared a common thread where you're like, yeah, I'm doing one in Asheville, North Carolina. I'm like, one of my favorite places is where I grounded in my own healing journey. So you've got some events coming up. Tell people a little bit ab we'll, we'll get to the, the links and where they can go to find 'em, but like, what's the process you bring people through in these kind of retreats?

So talk to people about your, your way of doing that.

Hamad: Yeah. To piggyback off what you were mentioning, sometimes we need a pattern interrupt and when we, we. Just take a break from our current environment and the current day to day. We, we go somewhere and we have an immersive experience. There's so many elements that I see bringing value where.

So when you have that immersive experience, you can really. Recalibrate, recenter yourself. And for me as a practitioner or facilitator, I'm looking to develop practical ways for people to incorporate it then and to take home with them. So what I offer some of these truths is usually a little bit of an interactive, fun workshop.

Then followed by functional movement and functional strength training. So the way I look at it is we're learning with our mind. We're receiving some support and care and a treatment, and then we put it into effect individually with functional movement and training. So it's not just talking about it, it's not just receiving something.

You're actually also participating. So for me, that is the holistic approach to upgrade one system. And then my desire is in those one-on-one coaching sessions, I actually provide like a practical step for them to take home with, you know, their brushing of their. So it's not just like a retreat. 'cause what what happens a lot of times is, and people will say, oh, I got a retreat.

Eric: Well, and I think that's, that's what's been coming up for me for, especially recently, since we we're, we're literally in the precipice of launching the Beyond the Pills community because we want community, I feel like, is that piece that gets sort of forgotten in the healing and lifestyle journey, right.

Is like community matters. Like the people that I, that I've met in the, the places that I've gone in my own healing journey are like my. They're my most real friends, right? They're the people that like we go through these journeys together and you're there kind of learning from each other, but you're also supporting each other in a natural way, which is so beautiful.

We've lost a lot of trust because there's a lot of inauthenticity. And that's why I think also these immersive experiences, you unplug your recalibrating and. You've solved some of the, the, the issues I think a lot of people have when they go on retreat, they come straight back and they get hit with the whirlwind of life and it's like almost automatic.

'cause the, the brain has been trained. You're like, yes, it's easy to unplug when you're unplugged, but then when you come back and it's like. I have to be really intentional with this and like, so I love how you like giving people those tools. The, the Monday morning toolkit, right? It's like, oh, don't forget this.

Mm-hmm. But that's the piece that we can support people with, which is where I think, where a lot of the intangibles come from. So thanks for, thanks for enlightening us into that

Hamad: space. Yeah, thank you. And that's, to circle back to our previous points is, hey, it's all part of the journey. And just, it's really about momentum.

Lucrative, which means it's very valuable to you and fun. Like we have to make sure that we lighten up some of this because it can be heavy, right? We're going in to do deep work and things of that nature, but there's this element of how do we make, how do we make the growth work fun? It's through those connection points.

It's through those, you know, places where we, we can share our experiences around a table and, and, and around healthy, energetic, good foods and things of that nature. Because it, it's, it, you can get lost in the, the, the heaviness of all that. So for me, I love when we can also put a little element of. Of fun and lightness into the equation.

Hamad: and that vibrational saying, that's something that I've learned and, you know, reconnecting, I think it's really important. I often say I keep my inner child, the adult, like the warrior energy that, you know, like wanting to go build, create. And the wise elder, el wise elder integrated within me.

The boy in me, Zola is lasting, being silly, having fun, so I can get as deep, esoteric, philosophical, intellectual. But at the end of the day, we want to have that life hearted energy and making sure that we're not taking things too seriously because there's a certain energy behind that as well. Staying relaxed and lighthearted, which really helps us to, uh, d diffuse some of that stickiness or the heavy energy.

But we're humans. Like we, we, we will go in different directions 'cause our minds will do that. That's why we have this big, beautiful prefrontal cortex. Yeah. Um, so where you're doing some retreats, you and I have show share some. Love for Asheville, North Carolina. It's one of my favorite places. Um, you're doing, I think one is that in March you're doing a retreat?

Hamad: Yes, we're doing a release and flow retreat in Asheville, March 6th through the eighth. It's just a weekend retreat and we're collaborating with a few different practitioners.

Eric: Very cool. Um, we'll have to check that out. Where do people go to get more information on this type of stuff?

Hamad: I think if you just tag.

That, that's probably the, the social media tool I can utilize most. I like to, you know, keep it simple myself as well, and stay present. But I think it's great to also have that, uh, connection.

Eric: Yeah. You, we connected through, uh, a mutual friend who, Tara, who helps with our podcast. Uh, 'cause you guys met in Belize and that's the other retreat you guys are, or you're doing, you're collaborating.

Hamad: That's a week long. And that's gonna be, you know, the idea is heal the healer within, and then our tagline is, embody, restore, integrate.

So a lot of what we were speaking about and that, that's a truly immersive experience and an incredible environment. You know, just to have those opportunities to build community and it, it life is so amazing and, uh, we're constantly shower with blessings when we're open to it. And, you know, even meeting Sarah, connecting with you and learning more about you, I'm even, as you were sharing earlier, I was like, can't wait till we hang out and share, uh, stories.

Eric: Together. Yeah. And I, I think that's when it doesn't become work. Right? It's like that we connected through someone because we were open and receptive. You, you know, you could have said no to go to Belize and then you wouldn't have met these cool people. Yeah. You know, and, and Tara came back. I was supposed to go, but I had other things I had to do and I'll, I'll be going because I'm, I have another date that I can set.

But it's like she was, she came back, she was just like. They all like resonate, like you, Josh, like they're all like, just even some people like sounded like you. It was just, there was this energy around all the people there because everyone got along, even though they didn't like all meet each other. So Belize has been on my list.

You're gonna do an immersive experience. You um, you also have a website, right? I think it's coach razzi.com.

Hamad: Yes.

Hamad: Yeah. So you could, you know, subscribe to my newsletter, send me a message there, or just follow me on Instagram and send me a message. I do my best to be, you know, just very personable. My whole thing, even tying back to what we were saying earlier is the simplification of even my life. I'm very aspirational.

I have a lot of things I'm working towards and I wanna accomplish, but at the essence is help people and have fun, have the most positive impact as possible, but feel fully connected. And not that I'm constantly grasping and reaching, that I'm enjoying every step of the way. A lot of that comes from just connecting and serving in a way that's in alignment, and I've learned that through experience as well.

Eric: I agree and, and. It is, it's almost like an adventure.

Like you meet someone and you're like, oh, that just happened. You know? It's like, oh, I can't make it up anymore. It just happens. Like it just it, my God. And, and that alignment piece is so key to that because when you're out of alignment. Things find you too, right? They out of alignment things find you. So when you're in your own alignment is when everything works, right?

And I only did that Ahmad because I went through my journey. It wasn't like I learned alignment, it was like, no, I experienced it. Mm-hmm. And so there's key pieces along the way and yeah, it's about having fun. 'cause this is fun for me. These, these conversations are fun because. It's not a podcast recording.

It's like a conversation where we had fun, we opened people's eyes up and I have a new connection, a new friend, a new someone that's doing something in this planet that's helping raise consciousness, raise health and wellbeing, make helping people heal one at a time. And to me, that is the fun, right? It's fun.

It's all about you in the driver's seat. So awesome stuff. Amazing. Super excited to continue this process. I can't wait to, um. Learn more about those retreats and, and help guide people towards that if it aligns with them. We're building this beyond the pills community now in 26, so, we'll, we have more conversations, more ways to engage with people doing fun things, and whether it's virtual or in person, I love in person, so this is, this is the way of the new healing model.

Hamad: I would say deep diaphragmatic breathing. So connect with your breath and. Be aware of where your body is in space. Simple as that. Just breathe fully. Think of a holistic expansion in your belly and ribcage. So inha, inhalation, it all expands. Exhale, we draw inward and then do a little check. Is my head on top of my shoulders?

From there, we can go much deeper, but I think that that's simple. Anyone can do that anytime, any place. And

Eric: I love these tools that are so impactful and no cost did not cost you a penny to recenter your breath. Go to that big diaphragmatic breath, breathe. Hold, stay present. And it's super impactful, right?

So these simple things do make a difference. So thank you for that. Appreciate it.

Eric: Um, thank you Dr.

Hamad. This has been awesome. Um. I'm sure there'll be more things that we're gonna adventure on. Um, I definitely see a synergistic component of co-creating things together because of your zone of genius and how it interplays and, and the dynamic of the people that I love to co-create with. So this is not the end.

This is just the beginning of the jury, my friend. Um, thanks for showing up. Thanks for what you're doing in this world. Um, thank you for your time today. Go check them out. Um. He's got his website, www.coach razzi.com. Check him out on Instagram, um, and we will see you on the other side. Thank you. All right guys.

Until next time, live better. And stay well.