Today I talk to Lauren who shares how her thrill seeking antics may have previously caused her trouble, but she harnessed as a springboard to build a life full adventure though her fabulous sober travel company "We love Lucid"

Hi, Betty I'm Victoria and I don't.

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Don't drink.

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Today, I talked to Lauren

about her journey to sobriety.

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And how the realization that by

harnessing her thrill-seeking self.

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She could not only stay sober, but

create a life full of adventure.

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Venture enjoy.

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And one, which she was shared

with others through her company.

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We love.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Hi

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Hi, hi Vic.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: lovely

to have you with me today.

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Thank you for joining.

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You were a recommendation

from my friend, Sarah.

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I'm going to give her a little shout out.

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Um, she had read your article, and

thought it would be really interesting

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for me to explore your story with you.

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you kindly replied very

quickly, when I came to you.

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So I appreciate that.

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thank you for being so open to come

on and talk about your experiences

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and the success that you've had, which

I'm really excited to hear about.

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So I'm going to hand over to you

with the first question, which is

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always just tell me your story.

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what happened?

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When did you decide enough is enough and

you were no longer going to be drinking?

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

Yep, so I'm eight years sober,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Congratulations.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: I got

sober when I was living in South Korea.

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I was living and working

there as a teacher.

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maybe some people might hear that and

think, oh, well, you know, That's quite

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different to my life or whatever, but

it's, it's not really because, we all

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share similar patterns I'll talk about

what my patterns were over the years.

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you could probably relate to

this in that they changed, you

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know, it wasn't always the same.

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There were times where, I was really

into the wine, drinking wine at home.

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It could have been, during the week,

it could have been seven days a week.

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And then maybe I, you know, chilled

out with more wine at the weekend.

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there were other periods of my life

when it was, weekends, full on benders,

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go out on Friday, come back on Sunday.

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I did that quite a lot actually

throughout my twenties.

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And then there were times where I'd

maybe get More into my fitness and

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drink a little bit less, I was into

to recreational Party drugs as well

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Stimulants was something that I

quite enjoyed and also alcohol gave

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me that effect alcohol made me feel

really up and oh god There she is.

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What's gonna happen?

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people I think No, scared for their lives

when I was around, but, my patterns with

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alcohol and party drugs were like many

other people, but also, you know, a little

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bit different, a bit of an extraordinary

story as well, because I used to

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take off, I used to save up my money.

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and take off and go traveling for example,

South Africa is one of the places I went

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many of my friends at the time, you know,

I talk about friends at the time, but

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to be honest, I had party acquaintances.

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It was really hard for me

to have friendships then.

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lots of people were like, Oh God,

traveling solo, traveling South Africa.

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But yeah, I basically, I kind of got

off on this idea of going to like a

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kind of dangerous place and somewhere

I could be anonymous and take a

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pile of drugs and party cheaper too.

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throughout my life, I did that I went

to these places for about six months

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and you know what it's like to be in

this party mode where you actually

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think, every day is a day for partying.

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I used to do that, every

day in South Africa.

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I did it in South America.

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eventually, I was in the

UK and I was like, oh, this

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place is just depressing me.

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I struggle with the UK sometimes,

the weather and this and that, having

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traveled so much to sunny places.

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so I thought I'll go to Korea and

teach English there, a bit of a

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culture shock, something interesting.

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in South Korea, they're

all about the drinking.

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I don't know many people if they

know that, but Koreans love drinking.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: No, I

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah, they do.

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They do.

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Admittedly, they start out with, eating

and drinking at the start of the night,

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you know, wouldn't be Alcohol focused

without the food and like it is in the UK.

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And so I got really into the drinking

there They didn't have many recreational

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drugs, which turned out to be a blessing

and a curse for me because what it did

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was really accelerate this whole kind

of basically the the implications of

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the drinking only became really clear.

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My patterns and addictive tendencies

became clear because I wasn't

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taking stimulants to stay awake.

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Experiencing blackouts, and I

hadn't experienced them before

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because I took things to stay awake,

even if it was a whole weekend.

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not remembering what I did.

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There were times where I went out

one night and lost all my belongings.

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thankfully, somewhere like Korea,

there were times when I had

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my, my bag and my wallet posted

back to me after a night out.

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People are very nice there.

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Yeah.

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Any crime that's committed

usually in Korea is not by,

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you know, is by other people.

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But, uh, uh, yeah, pointless fact there.

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So yeah, uh,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: fact.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

I like to, because it's, part

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of my story is travel too.

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And so I like to also talk

about these places I've been

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to, but that's what happened.

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It just all kind of snowballed and it

got to a point where, Various different

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things were happening, in my life

and trouble that I was getting into.

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I'll not go into too much detail at

this point because, quite frankly, I

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have to leave something for the book.

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And, uh,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Oh, Yes.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: but

yeah, just, you know, the rock

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bottom things are quite personal too.

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And so, we will just say that, you

know, life was becoming, there's

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a lot of drama was ensuing in my

life and more than I could manage.

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it was becoming life threatening.

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And so, also my body, I

was feeling really awful.

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And I decided one day I was at the

end of my tether and thought, right,

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I can't see any way out of this.

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I really can't.

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You know, I was envisaging, many

people say that with age, people

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naturally put a stop to these

party antics, but that was not me.

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I was not, planning on stopping

anytime soon and, I could envisage,

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uh, visions of myself gate crashing

student parties when other women my

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age were, cooing over grandchildren

and, collecting their pension.

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And I was just like, oh my god.

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This has to stop.

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I, I like, you know, a train going

a thousand miles per hour to a place

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that, I don't wanna reach my death

bed and think that, I've wasted this.

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And so I decided to give it a go.

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I took it one day at a time.

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I was heading off on a, a trip

into the, to an island in the

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East coast of East Coast of Korea.

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that was a real eyeopener for me.

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it was the first weekend in

a long time that I hadn't.

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been drinking and it was just, I

was like a child, just the clarity,

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witnessing life for the first time,

the clarity waking up without that

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regret and without the hangover having

meaningful connections and conversations.

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And so it was that experience that

really, really woke me up to what

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life could be without alcohol.

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I Took it from there.

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Step by step, I got into adventure travel.

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bought a bike and cycled along the East

coast of Korea it was just amazing.

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You know, waking up every

day, I had a tent with me,

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not knowing what I would find.

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And it was a kind of freedom and

vitality that I had searched for,

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for so long with alcohol and drugs.

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That's one of the reasons why

I like alcohol and uppers.

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Was because it allowed me a sense

of freedom, freedom from myself,

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freedom from my thoughts, freedom

from the difficult emotions, freedom

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from the version of me that I didn't

like, which was this sensitive,

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slightly self conscious, slightly

introverted, slightly insecure person.

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I was looking for freedom from that.

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And so I really found

that in adventure travel.

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when I left Korea, I had a list of

bucket list countries that I wanted

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to go to and one of them was Mongolia.

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I'd grown up riding horses,

when I was a young girl and

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then I ditched that whenever the

booze and the boys came along.

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so, yeah, I rode across the

Mongolian steppe on horseback.

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I went backpacking in Siberia

and this remote place.

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Island in Siberia.

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I know what you're thinking.

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Siberia is landlocked.

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Well, it's not actually, but yes,

it was an island and a huge lake in

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Siberia, and it was just magical.

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I swam with sharks in Oman

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Oh my

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: I stayed on

a farm working with horses in Bosnia.

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Those were just some of

the things that I did.

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it was such a life changing experience.

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Yeah.

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So I did all these amazing, had all

these amazing experiences and towards

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the end of that trip, I ended up

in a beautiful little mountaintop

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town in the south of Spain, one of

the little whitewashed, villages.

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It's a town called Ronda and that's

where I was inspired to create travel

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experiences for people who don't drink.

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at the time, this whole sober community,

wasn't evolved like it is now, there

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weren't so many things going on.

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I certainly wasn't aware

of any of it at all.

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I didn't even have an Instagram

account at that point.

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So in my mind, I was thinking to myself,

how can I make these sober experiences,

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something uplifting and invigorating?

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Mm

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: When I

thought of a bunch of sober people

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sitting around together, I thought of this

kind of, you know, circle of depressed,

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alcoholics sharing their clothes.

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And, and, and it, it, I think

that was often at that time was

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like a collective perception

that what not only I was feeling.

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And so I really just worked on

over the next few months, How to,

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you know, a vision of what I could

create that would really reflect

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my experience of sober travel.

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And that's how We Love Lucid came about.

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So I created We Love Lucid in 2019.

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I moved to that part of Spain

because I didn't have a child

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and I just went and lived where

I wanted to at the drop of a hat.

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I stayed there for a couple of years

and ran my first alcohol free trips.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

What a thing to do.

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And like, what a thing to realize

that your, whole sort of personality

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was entangled with this anyway.

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And then to be able to do that

through sobriety and make it something

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that other people could enjoy.

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it's a really great thing to do.

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It probably made it very easy

for you to be yourself sort of,

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

yeah, yeah, you know, it's so, so

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interesting that you say that because

it's something I've been actually

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grappling with until very recently.

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That part of me that, did all

those crazy things and got banned

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from South Africa for five years.

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On a, you know, a Coke bender when I

was 18 and running around the South

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American streets, part of me that

did that is actually the same part

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of me that took a risk to create

an alcohol free travel business.

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Who, you know, loves to go

out rally driving now, and I

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can save up a bit of money.

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Who, loves going on these

big adventures that I do.

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It's the same, you know, for

so long I pathologized that.

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I was like, oh, I did those

things because of this trauma.

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And don't get me wrong, it's

all kind of muddled in there.

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as time goes on, you pick it apart.

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But It's not so simple as saying I

did those things because of that I

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did those things, because part of my

personality was to do those things.

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And I see that now because

I've got a three year old

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daughter and I see it in her.

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She's like that.

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And I'm like, hold on a minute.

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That was just part of, Who I was,

and I often say to sober people,

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find that thing, you know, and turn

it around and use it for, for goods.

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They, I heard this brilliant quote one

time, and it said, the level to which

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someone can self destruct is, directly

correlational to the level to which

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they can create good in the world.

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That's so true.

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And I think it's a message that

we should shout about more.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: definitely

using that energy, isn't it, for something

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that's really important and aligning

it with yourself is so important.

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I just very recently, had some coaching

to try and work out what my, Life

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purpose was so, you know, looking

at my, my values and all of those

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things together with my life purpose.

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And, it's really interesting this podcast

and, and a few other things that are

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happening outside of this, like with

work and everything really aligns with it

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because of that, because it's this sort of

who I am and this desire to shine a light

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on things and, and, you know, and make it

better for other people as well as myself.

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realizing that.

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wasn't the answer to making things

fun and, and different and worth

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exploring has been massive for me

because I just didn't know I, I, like

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you would have, just how I lived.

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Like, you know, I assumed that

if you were going to go out,

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why would a night be any fun?

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If you couldn't have some wine when you

went, it was for me, that's what it was.

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And it was only drinking wine didn't

maybe go to some of the extremes, but like

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you say, it's the behaviors, isn't it?

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And that same pattern, of

thinking that's the only

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah, yeah,

no, and you know, when I look back and

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think about those times, I could never

have even fathomed, going, a month

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without alcohol or having fun at all.

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And it's just, for me, it's mind

blowing how our perception can change.

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And it's not like, our perceptions

changed and now we just

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settle for the boring thing.

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That's not what it's about.

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It's all at all.

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It's like, I actually love Doing the

things that I do now, the adventure,

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the rally driving, and this and

that, I really love it, and I often

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call it the FOMO to JOMO mechanism.

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at the beginning of sobriety,

when you're first sober, you

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don't have, enough memories or

associations with, Alcohol free fun.

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They don't exist yet.

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You have not created them yet.

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So we tend to just look back and

think, when I think of fun, I think

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of, this thing I did and this thing

I did and alcohol was always present.

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But I think once we start to build

those experiences and memories where

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we do something fun that doesn't

involve alcohol, the scale, starts to

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tip and you don't feel so much FOMO.

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You start thinking,

actually, I prefer this.

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You know, and of course it's tongue

in cheek and it's not like, Oh

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yeah, I just love missing out.

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That's not what it is, you

know, joy of missing out.

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It's not, it's not that.

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It's just underlining the fact that

our perception of fun does change.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Yeah.

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And actually I do genuinely

sometimes have a bit of a joy of

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missing out because like my pyjamas.

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I quite like night

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: yeah,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

I get a bit more tired.

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Maybe that's because I'm getting older.

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there are some nights where you

know they're just going to end in

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carnage and people are going out.

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And I mean, those are the ones

that I really don't want to be at.

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And actually, weirdly,

even when I was a drinker.

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And would go on those

nights prior to them.

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I would have some level

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: me too.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: that I

was going to go too far or lose

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: miss the train

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: whatever

it was, even if it was just about

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the hangover I was expecting the

next day, mine were pretty bad, my

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hangovers, but I didn't even really.

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I massively look forward to some of

those nights in the end, because I

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just knew that it would be a disaster.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: I

felt like that, especially towards

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the end, with all the drinking,

the blackouts, I had that anxiety

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about, oh God, what's gonna happen?

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Because something inevitably

was gonna happen, you know?

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

It wasn't unfounded.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: no.

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It sort

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Oh, so,

so you kind of, it sounds like you

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just made a logical decision that

this was something you were going to

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Mm-Hmm.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

find it challenging?

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Because you'd gone from a hundred miles

an hour to plodding and trying to.

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get through this.

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how did you do it?

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did you have tools

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: a

good question, and it's something

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I think about, you know?

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I sometimes wonder How some of us

have got that, it's almost like a

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little flame, that is barely there,

but it's still there, and it allows

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you, to get through this, because

not everybody does, you know, and I

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wonder, why was I able to do that?

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And this other person that you might hear

about, or a friend, why are they not?

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And I don't know, I honestly don't

know the answer to that question.

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But practically speaking,

um, practically speaking,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

just telling someone with a

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leaf blower outside my window.

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Can you believe this day I'm

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Don't worry,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: I

normally do these at night.

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Now I'm realizing

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: you

don't need to edit that out either.

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It just adds, you know, a bit of realness.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

I'm like waving my

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

don't worry, these things happen.

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Listen, I've got a three

year old, so I understand.

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practically speaking, things that I

did, I just, I delved into interests.

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I tried new things.

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I learned Korean language.

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I learned how to cook Korean food.

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The bike helped me immensely.

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You know, I'm not going to lie.

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It was a challenging time because you're

bombarded with uncomfortable, you know,

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there's the feelings and emotions that

you've had over the years that, you

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know, the reason why I drink anyway.

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And then.

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there's all these other ones that

are related to crap you've done,

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and this and that, and, you know.

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Um, and so that is hard, it really

is, but at the same time I was

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experiencing this kind of, this

amazing appreciation for life.

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And so it's such a mixed, I mean,

I think that just goes for life in

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general, , one day, especially we've

got children and young children and,

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you can be experiencing such bliss

one moment and next moment, you're

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like, ah, I tear my hair out early

sobriety was definitely very much

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like that for me, a rollercoaster.

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one thing that also really

helped me was volunteering.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Okay.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

stress this enough, you know,

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uh, I started volunteering.

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I worked in a, volunteered in

a wee orphanage, orphanage.

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I have a feeling that that's not the word

people say anymore, but, uh, and in a

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soup kitchen in various places, and what

that did for me was give me this kind

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of sense of, Oh, you are doing something

helpful, You know what it's like when

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you're struggling with alcohol and drugs,

it's a very self centered, existence.

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even though you are taking these things

to try and, avoid the pain, it's still

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stuff that you're doing for yourself.

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And you, well, I ended up

upsetting lots of people and, I

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felt really ashamed about that.

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this volunteering really helped me.

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It gives me a focus and I was able to give

back and see, Oh, actually that person

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is, benefiting from me helping them.

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And I really would,

it's a huge sober hack.

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I still do it.

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I still do the odd volunteering right now.

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I'm doing it in a writing

school for the disabled.

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I grew up with some people saying, no,

you're not supposed to tell anybody when

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you volunteer, because you're giving.

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But the reason why I do tell people, and

I actually don't talk about it that much.

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is because as a sober person, or even

anybody, I think it's invaluable.

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I really do.

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I think it's an invaluable tool.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: I don't

know why you wouldn't want to

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tell people that you volunteer.

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I think it's great.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: I think that you

stop drinking and you start remembering

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the various things you've done and those

nights that perhaps you would rather had

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not happened or, mistakes you've made.

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I think you're right.

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You can start to, feel

pretty bad about yourself.

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so I understand why that, that just

something to tell you that you're

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: a bad person and

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: exactly.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: You know,

these, um, these things that we've

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done in the past, if we've been

under the influence of whether it

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is drugs or whether it is alcohol.

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I do think of it as me plus.

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Wine in my instance.

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So the way that I behaved in that

situation, it's not the authentic me.

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And I know some people say, Oh,

the truth comes out when you drink.

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I actually believe that to be true at all.

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I think your brain gets mashed and

you make some really stupid decisions.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

Of course, I agree.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Say stupid

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: said things

when I've been drinking to people that

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I absolutely, a hundred percent did

not mean I just, I could not explain

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enough that I did not mean that at all.

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so I think of it as me plus

substance, that's who that person was.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: I like that.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: so it's

important, isn't it, to forgive

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yourself and think, you know, actually

me on my own, none of that would've

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Because

me on my own is who I am now.

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And, it's hard to do, but you should

forgive yourself for those things.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: I know, and

I feel like that person who said that

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about, the truth comes out, I think they

need to be, held accountable because

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: We'll

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: People think

that that's true and it's just not,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Yeah.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: It's a version

under the influence of some substance.

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And yeah, you're right.

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I grew up thinking that I was a

terrible person not that my parents

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went out of their way to say that

I was a really bad person, but

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just with certain conditionings.

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I grew up in a religious background.

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I grew up thinking.

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I was a terrible person, and it

still creeps into my reality, There's

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times where I'm like, that person

didn't get back, they're not, they're

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not pissed off at me, you know?

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And I'm like, hold on!

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I am a caring

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Like, I have to really check in with

myself, and I know there's a lot of

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people that suffer from that, especially

people pleasers, they have this thing

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that they're bad people, and it's just, I

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Yeah.

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It's very common.

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And I think people pleasing is

really common in people who either

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drink or take drugs, isn't it?

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Because you're trying to be what you think

people want you to be and that party girl

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existence that was a big thing for me.

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Like I wanted people to like me.

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I wanted to be the life

and soul of that party.

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quite a shock to my friends when I

said I wasn't going to be anymore.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: I know,

they just think, oh no, no more fun

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now, but it's just different, you know,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Yeah.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

different kind of fun.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

I don't think it's flat.

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sometimes you hear people saying it's

more of a flat line than ups and downs.

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I don't feel like it's flat.

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I genuinely really enjoy almost

everything that I do now.

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I love planning things and, I'm definitely

going to be having a look at your

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website for some of the options because

I love a weekend away and particularly.

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people, gosh, I mean, that's up

with people in real life as well,

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who don't drink is phenomenal.

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Tell us a bit about your company.

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Cause, that's also what

I want to hear about.

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Cause there might be people who are

thinking, Oh, I can't, can't go travel

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now from on my own cause I'm sober

and no one want to talk to me and all

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those things we tell ourselves that

are not true, but it'd be useful to

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: So when I

started running my first trips in Spain

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they were kind of small, you know, I was

just putting it out there for the first

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time and there's maybe three or four of

us one of the things I noticed almost

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immediately was the strength of connection

that people forged and how quickly they

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forged that and I was really blown away

by it and I soon realized that it was

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because, people have this shared link.

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profound life experience.

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the fact that they've made this

bold decision to quit drinking in

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a society that glorifies drinking.

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is a really courageous thing to do, but it

can also make people feel quite isolated.

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It can be quite an isolating thing if

you don't have a community around you.

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I think when people connect with

others, I think it's And not only on

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like, because it's not a day event, of

course you can go to a day event meet

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someone and get chatting But because

it's over the space of a few days,

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you really get to connect with people

and you really get to know people.

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And yeah, it was just amazing to see that.

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And so that really spurred me on, I

really thought, oh wow, there's something

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here that I'm gonna keep going at.

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And so I did a few trips there,

and then I moved back to the UK.

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That's when I became pregnant and

COVID hit and I did a few trips.

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I don't even know how I managed

that, but, uh, during that time

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and my, my trips basically started

with a bit of an adventure element.

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For example, when we were in Rwanda,

we went to moonlight kayaking and a big

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lake, for example, which is just amazing,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Wow.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: So, so

yeah, we had a bit of adventure,

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some foodie stuff, and yeah,

that's generally how it went.

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But then over the years, recent years

since my daughter's grown up a little

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bit, I've been ve kind of leaning into

the more adventurous side of things.

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And so that's why you'll see in

my website we've got, a Camino de

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Santiago, which is, you know, the,

the Camino in the north of Spain.

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It's a.

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Pilgrimage, and we're doing a week long

hike there, with an organization called

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She Recovers in the United States, a

friend of mine, Mandy Manor, she's a,

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she was a sober coach, and she's doing

various things in the sober community

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now, or a mental health sphere.

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And so yeah, we're going to do that.

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and also we've got, this really exciting

challenge, a 120 mile in one day cycling

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challenge from a town in Devon called Beer

to a town called Soberton in Hampshire.

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Did

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

Do you know what?

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A, I know someone who lives in

Soberton, which is interesting.

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I only discovered it by accident.

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when I became sober, I don't know how

I came across Soberton, but I tried

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to arrange a weekend away with, some

of the sober ladies that I'd met

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on a platform called Snowbaristas

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Did you?

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Yeah, we

couldn't find any accommodation that

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fitted us all, so we ended up in a

place called Emily Farm instead, which

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is in Surrey, but only because I kept

having to expand out, but Soberton, and

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for that reason, oh, that's brilliant.

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What a

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: That's so

funny because I've never met, I haven't

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met anybody that, that knew of it.

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Well, you know, a sober person that knew

of it and had planned something like that.

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So, yeah, that's what we're doing and,

yeah, I love, I'm really enjoying that.

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We've basically got this WhatsApp group of

people who are wanting to join and people

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can do shorter, versions of the route.

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You don't have to do the full

120 and you don't have to be

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sober to join that, event.

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All my other tips are for sober people.

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stable in their sobriety, but for this,

you don't have to be, you know, because

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we assume that, you know, it's going to

be anybody who takes on 120 mile bike ride

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will, I'm sure know what that's going to

be like, and they're going to be okay.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Yes.

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You wouldn't want to do that on a

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: you?

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: or

without training or anything like

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that, you know, it's really people

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: No.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: are

going to invest, are investing

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time and getting ready for that.

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and I'm loving it.

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There's just so much camaraderie

around that kind of thing.

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And it's really just to raise

awareness about sobriety.

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and yeah, so that's what's happening.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: So how

do people, if someone wanted to

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come on that, what do they do?

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Do they just go onto your website

or how do they contact you about it?

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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So go onto the website and you

can see the different trips there.

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The Camino de Santiago is all sold out.

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I would, yeah, I'd really like to put

on a, Hiking, a different hiking trip,

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maybe something a bit more local.

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So, so anything you see there, just

click on it and all the information's

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on our website, I enjoy writing.

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I started writing professionally, And I

have a blog as well where I share some of

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my crazy stories before quitting and some

after quitting or just sober insights,

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you know, it's, um, yeah, I, I, I lost

interest in kind of small talk around the

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whole sober thing a long time ago, my,

anything I, you know, it's all usually

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very real and that's not for everybody,

but, I think it's kind of what happens.

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for me personally, the whole

sanitized thing is, is, you know,

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it's not, it's not so much for me.

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if that sounds like something anybody's

interested in, they can head to my

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website, sign up to the newsletter.

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I'm also on Instagram sharing my cycling

journey, getting back into cycling

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after seven years, getting ready for

this big beer to Soberton challenge.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: So

the website is, we love lucid.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

Yeah, we love LICID.

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Yeah, that's right.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: and then

what's the blog How do we find the

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah.

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It's just on there.

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If you go onto the website, we love LICID.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: on the

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

and it's under writing.

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yes, that's where my blog is and

you can, there'll a pop up will, you

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know, there'll be a pop up to sign

up to it, we can read some stories.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Ah, good.

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Well, I'll read those.

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I quite like the real stories.

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That's why I did this as well.

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I just want to know what's

up, what we know, happens.

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what's everyone else's story been?

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Like mine's, mine's quite familiar.

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I feel like.

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Lots of people have a similar story to me.

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the university days of my generation were

full of drinking and then it just went on

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and kept going having kids, I fell into

the mummy drinking culture target for

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those organizations that make us think

we needed Prosecco to bring up our kids.

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so that was my story, but there's so many

other more interesting ones out there.

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So thank you for sharing yours.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: That's no

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I think everybody, the great thing about

this space is that There are similarities

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with yours and other people's and

probably mine and other people's too,

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but everyone's story is still in its

own way, unique, you know, cause you're,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: yeah.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

you know, an Indian,

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

And it's so encouraging.

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And the fact that you've gone on

to have this wonderful company

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and, really good luck with all of

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: yeah.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

listening to have a pop over and

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see, see what's going on there.

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If they want to join that cycle

ride, I might just come and meet you

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in Bloomington to say, well done.

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211:

Oh, it's going to be so great.

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I'm going on the, on the radio and BBC

to talk about it actually on Saturday.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: Oh, that's so

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Yeah,

I love the opportunity to go on

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and talk about all these things.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: You should

shout it from the rooftops because

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achieving sobriety in itself is

amazing, but to go on and do what

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you've done, it's really great,

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: Thank you.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208:

and much appreciated.

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Okay, I'm going to say goodbye to

you now for the sake of the podcast.

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thank you for joining me and

sharing your lovely story with us.

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anyone that's listening that wants to give

it a go, this is definitely an inspiring

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one for you to, to follow in the footsteps

and just find out who you are and then,

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and then build something from that.

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So, thank you so much, Laura,

and it's been amazing talking

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lauren_1_10-29-2024_133211: No problem.

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Thank you, Vic.

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thank you for having me.

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vic-_1_10-29-2024_133208: You're welcome.

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