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Welcome to the pilot episode of Chainsaw History, where Jamie Chambers and his sister Bambi Chambers swear their way through America's checkered past! In this episode, Jamie dives into his genealogy adventure, uncovering the gripping and tragic story of their ancestor, David Boyd, who was captured by Native Americans in the mid-1700s. This tragic tale leads us into the brutal realities of colonial America, the French and Indian War, and George Washington's early military career. From David Boyd's harrowing experience to the pivotal Battle of Jumonville Glen, you'll find history relatable, funny, and sometimes shockingly brutal.
I don't even know how she can cope with that it's like how do you get shingles in your
Speaker:eye and I was like and you win yeah that's one of the most horrific things I can think
Speaker:of outside of genitalia anything on the junk seems to be the the ultimate well speaking
Speaker:of shingles on the junk has nothing to do with what we're gonna surprisingly more diseases
Speaker:than you might expect I'm Jamie chambers this is my sister Bambi hello this started because
Speaker:I fell down a rabbit hole of genealogy after I got an ancestry.com DNA kit as a Christmas
Speaker:gift this is not an endorsement I'm not being paid to talk about them it just is a thing
Speaker:that's true but when I started got the DNA results then I started doing some family tree
Speaker:business ended up subscribing to some paid services just so I can do the research and
Speaker:then I started looking at history because I was gonna be a college history professor
Speaker:once upon a time like that was how did that work out I changed my major twice minored
Speaker:in history and then never did anything with it ever again so call it I'm really glad I'm
Speaker:facing crippling student yeah how's that student loan not paid off yet so who knows what this
Speaker:is actually gonna be called but I can tell you that's the main thing to know is I am
Speaker:not a historian I only minored in history but I am kind of a fan and nerd about history
Speaker:and so like one of the things I think I'm good at is is taking history making it relatable
Speaker:to more people who aren't as into it as I am telling it in terms that you can kind of
Speaker:get on board with and start to understand and however I'm probably like if we put this
Speaker:online I'm probably gonna classify it as comedy because I intend to swear a lot and reference
Speaker:drugs and no one can ever make me stop squaring it's it's really terrible old people
Speaker:and small children just hate me yeah no your little kids should not listen to this fucking
Speaker:podcast no little kids I'm to the point where if you don't like swearing around your child
Speaker:please don't bring your child around me I'm just no longer give any Fox we will offend you so maybe
Speaker:what we're gonna be doing today is I'm going to be giving you a hopefully not incredibly boring
Speaker:nerdy history lecture but it's gonna be related to something in our family tree so we're gonna
Speaker:start there with a family connection and luckily this is going back many generations so we can't
Speaker:humiliate anyone currently alive which is you know it's good and also sort of and this is actually
Speaker:like this story is one of the things that gave me the idea of doing this show at least the thing
Speaker:we're gonna intro with and then it's gonna lead us into a larger historical topic that I don't
Speaker:think enough Americans talk enough about or know enough about really so I was about to say that
Speaker:could literally be anything so so what would be that's so vague what would be your fictional time
Speaker:travel machine that we need to use to jump back to 18th century colonial America so well this is
Speaker:gonna be full historical but I was just thinking like do we want to take like HD Wells's time
Speaker:machine or the TARDIS oh no no I need mr. Peabody's way back mission okay excellent that's that's
Speaker:where I am I if we're getting in a time machine I'm getting in with the dog excellent so we're
Speaker:drivers and we're gonna take it back a first of the year 1756 before we jump back a few extra
Speaker:years before that okay so it was Saturday February 10th 1756 a 12 year old boy named David Boyd was
Speaker:sent by his mother to gather dry firewood while the father of the family was visiting their
Speaker:nearest neighbor who was over a mile away this was central Pennsylvania in the mid 1700s when
Speaker:these were like settler families that did not have a lot of neighbors they were just trying to carve
Speaker:out they didn't have a lot of anything yeah period so these settlers were strict Presbyterians and it
Speaker:was kind of their habit to get all the important work done by the end of the day because Sunday's
Speaker:meant to be purely rest and worship grabbing his hatchet young David took his little brother John
Speaker:jr. who was six years old along to gather the firewood that's when a band of Native Americans
Speaker:from the Delaware tribe according to the sources surprised the boys and took them captive without
Speaker:much struggle okay John Boyd senior the father was missed walking through the woods but the rest of
Speaker:the family was gathered together the mother Nancy was not in great health and it could be that she
Speaker:just hadn't recovered yet from childbirth well yeah cuz you probably had had several of those
Speaker:shit like yeah there's like seven or eight of these Boyd kids oh yeah I mean women you know you
Speaker:either gave birth to children or you died in she was constantly pregnant constantly because I mean
Speaker:that was you're either pregnant or you were dead yeah and so far she had good luck when it came to
Speaker:delivering all these kids unfortunately her luck runs out well this is not a great day for Nancy
Speaker:um she all we know is that she wasn't in great health so it could be that she was still recovering
Speaker:from childbirth because she's carrying her infant James Thomas but she can't keep up because these
Speaker:are fast-moving native Raiders yeah and a bunch of like set of frontier settler children who are
Speaker:all in great shape so well yeah I mean after your entire fucking reproductivism gets turned
Speaker:into mincemeat yeah like seven for like the seventh time yeah in colonial times when there
Speaker:was no such thing as modern medicine and she was probably just like leaky and bleeding and terrible
Speaker:poor poor Nancy yeah and unfortunately things are not gonna get any better for me oh I hope Nancy
Speaker:dies swiftly so this is pretty fucking grim but here we go she's got her infant son James Thomas
Speaker:and they realize the natives realize this woman can't keep up they're taking prisoners but she
Speaker:can't keep up with them and they're on foot so she sits the natives sat Nancy down with her baby
Speaker:on a fallen tree and let her say goodbye to her children one at a time David he quoted her later
Speaker:in life saying Oh God be merciful to my children going among savages she was only 37 years old once
Speaker:the captive children were out of sight the Warriors left behind killed both the mother
Speaker:and the child and scalped them both yeah sounds about right David and his sister Sally were forced
Speaker:to later take turns carrying the scalps of their murdered mother and baby brother for an entire day
Speaker:you know only one example of the humiliation and cruelty they'd be forced to endure which started
Speaker:yeah cradling your mother's head yes the top of your mom's head and your little baby brother oh
Speaker:that's that's fucking brutal we don't know exactly how old the kid was but it was less than a year
Speaker:is that's that's kind of what we know so he's either a a small toddler or a true infant we
Speaker:don't know either way that's pretty fucking rough and then they had to watch as their their home
Speaker:their family farmhouse was looted and burned before they all had you run off taking turns
Speaker:carrying mom's also sounds about right welcome to the mid-1700s it was a fucking terrible place
Speaker:John Boyd senior the distraught father of this family was forced to watch his home burn from a
Speaker:distance before setting off to alarm local settlers and organize a pursuit he took one
Speaker:look at this situation is like I could rush down there and die yeah I mean dying doesn't seem like
Speaker:a very intelligent option although you know when he finds his wife and baby's you know head
Speaker:eventually hopefully then that's also fucking terrible yeah there's no there's not great either
Speaker:way so but he did what made the most sense he went to organize people but because like their
Speaker:nearest neighbor was the one he was just at a mile away by the way those two people were killed
Speaker:in this raid as well they were childless that family completely wiped off the map and their
Speaker:their home also burned so because the pioneers were scarce in central Pennsylvania took some
Speaker:time to gather the needed men guns and supplies which was more than enough time for the Swift
Speaker:Delaware raiding party and the white pioneer children to make a lot of distance when the
Speaker:pursuit party led by John Boyd senior they found shreds of Nancy's dress clinging to some bushes
Speaker:off a trail and then they followed tracks to a nearby ravine oh that's horrible and looking down
Speaker:in the ravine they see these scalped and mutilated bodies of Nancy and baby James the headless
Speaker:corpses well not decapitated just the time you know just scalped so by the world was terrible
Speaker:yeah by the time David and his surviving siblings reached the native villages in what's now Ohio
Speaker:John senior had given up hope of ever seeing his children alive again now we'll get back to David
Speaker:in a different conversation but I bring his story up first because the earliest sources are all
Speaker:about how cruel and the savagery of the native people but they always just talk about it just
Speaker:purely in that context and never in the larger story about what else is going on so that's what
Speaker:I'm gonna do today these brutal raids were part of a larger conflict that American history books
Speaker:called the French and Indian War so like as a you know pulling from high school history do you
Speaker:remember anything at all about the French and Indian War no not a thing I mean I could guess
Speaker:that it would be between both French people and Native Americans about as much as anybody does
Speaker:because the truth is our you know public education in the United States tends to gloss over this
Speaker:because the Revolutionary War is only a couple decades away and that's the that's what excites
Speaker:everybody because you know we're in terms of indoctrinate and we're not we're not French
Speaker:indeed without this war and without our colonial ancestors victory in that war there would almost
Speaker:certainly be no United States of America as we know it it's really fascinating struggle in its
Speaker:own right while setting all the initial pieces on the the chessboard for what will eventually
Speaker:be America's war for independence but it's also important to remember the French and Indian War
Speaker:is just one theater in a larger conflict between European colonial powers that span five continents
Speaker:Winston Churchill called it the true First World War beating the one we call World War One by 150
Speaker:years because we didn't care about those people in fact that's exactly right nobody gave a fuck
Speaker:indigenous populations in all of these places get caught in the middle and completely fucked
Speaker:because these small relatively small European nations were projecting power all over the globe
Speaker:yeah I mean it's like yeah the Native American people were very brutal and very savage and very
Speaker:very very pissed off at this point and who could blame them this is when colonialism started really
Speaker:getting going you know so this so the global war is called the seven years war which lasted either
Speaker:seven years or nine years or maybe even 22 depending on which historian you ask and which
Speaker:like which skirmish well if it's if it's the 22 year war I feel like the seven year war is a
Speaker:really misnomer there's a big discrepancy I mean seven and nine chores seven and 22 that's pretty
Speaker:fucked y'all you know it's all just about deciding at which point which point is like the starting
Speaker:bell you know which things officially kicked it off because especially for the global war there
Speaker:was a lot of stuff related to like royals like succession and like little territorial disputes
Speaker:so it's there's an argument to be made of where it really started however a lot of people will say
Speaker:get started in the colonies and that's what we're gonna get into I also started with David
Speaker:Boyd's story for one more reason he is our fifth great-grandfather so that guy's entirely
Speaker:kidnapped boys yes yeah that was our maternal grandmother's family so if you go to our
Speaker:grandmother's father's father and going up to what our fifth great-grandfather that was David
Speaker:Boyd who at 12 years old was kidnapped by Delaware natives and we will get back to him like I'm gonna
Speaker:do a whole separate mini episode just in his life because I assumed all of our ancestors would have
Speaker:boring as shit lives and then you found out about the horrific kidnapping yeah scalping that turns
Speaker:into kind of a real-life Dances with Wolves kind of story it's really it's it's interesting and
Speaker:complicated because it's like on one hand when you know the whole larger story you can understand
Speaker:why the natives did their raids you can also understand why it sucks when your mom gets
Speaker:scalped you know you're captured and tortured forced to carry around her but then later on like
Speaker:I'll get out we'll talk about it later but David goes full native and and actually comes to love
Speaker:the chief of that tribe who was there when his family was captured and his home burned but came
Speaker:to see that man as his true father it's a it's an interesting story but we'll get back to him so
Speaker:Stockholm syndrome we'll get back to David Boyd at another time because we're gonna at this point
Speaker:we're gonna get into the larger history that's the why all that shit just happened to him and
Speaker:his family the French and Indian French and any more so I'm not gonna get into the whole seven
Speaker:years World War thing I'd rather focus on the slice of it that concerns our country and our
Speaker:ancestors because we don't have like seven hours to talk about this the international business is
Speaker:like an entire history course all by itself but ironically it's kind of worth noting that there
Speaker:was a point where British soldiers were fighting the French and Indians from India on the
Speaker:subcontinent while we had our own French and Indian war going on over here so there was too
Speaker:many Indians we didn't really we're really bad at naming things misnomers yeah so we had literally
Speaker:that level of confusion going on at that point so let's set the stage for our conflict England
Speaker:and France had had beef for basically ever at this point in the 18th century always looking for
Speaker:an excuse to you know get back for the previous scuffle that they'd had well I mean that's pretty
Speaker:much half the wars throughout history oh yeah it's just you know well I mean revenge or get
Speaker:territory you lost back and most wars are just pissing contests between men over land and rich
Speaker:yeah you're trying to fight over fighting back and forth so England France constantly going at
Speaker:it you know and meanwhile this was the like I said this has been colonized the colonialism
Speaker:is really getting going so because white men didn't want to pay taxes going all over the
Speaker:fucking rich white men didn't want to pay their fair share of taxes well that gets into American
Speaker:Revolution of course like you're gonna see so much of like seeds of what makes Americans Americans
Speaker:all the way back before there was such a thing the British colonies were all in the eastern
Speaker:coastline of the United States and then the French were holding the territory to the north
Speaker:north and west of the Appalachian Mountains so up into Canada and then going spilling down into the
Speaker:mainland from there okay but over more on the western side so some coal motherfucking land
Speaker:and similarly to know yeah there's a population difference so like for you know the British the
Speaker:British population vastly outnumbered the French Canadians but at the same time France had vast
Speaker:more territory kind of like how Canada is huge but has one-tenth of the population of the United
Speaker:States because it's fucking cold there but that was the situation they were in now you always got
Speaker:to remember the purpose of a colony is to generate profit for the mother country through the
Speaker:mercantile well every everything is about profit always always now you know you know and that's
Speaker:another thing like you know what they tell you back in school and the the sort of oversimplified
Speaker:version of the mercantile system is that you know raw goods are gathered from the the colony shipped
Speaker:back over to the mother country where they're turned into finished manufactured products and
Speaker:then sold some of them sold back to the original people take places they came from with all of the
Speaker:markups that come with overseas shipping twice and everybody getting their cut along the way but now
Speaker:the British colonies for well over a hundred years had enjoyed what's called salutary neglect now
Speaker:neglect doesn't sound good but salutary is literally the same root word as salute it
Speaker:literally is like a term of respect basically saying hey the colonies are running themselves
Speaker:and getting themselves established so we're not gonna enforce all of these taxes we're not we're
Speaker:not gonna enforce the trades exclusivity that you would normally have so technically left alone yeah
Speaker:there was technically a lot of smuggling going on that they just didn't bother to enforce and there
Speaker:were taxes that they just they were on the books but they never once tried to collect things like
Speaker:that so for a long time you know the American colonists got used to being left the fuck alone
Speaker:so like the British the merchant class in England was super influential at the time so they were
Speaker:making a lot of money they're all the rich you know the mid rich business owners they're making
Speaker:money so everything's going well so so there's not a lot of reason for England to rock the boat
Speaker:by enforcing all these rules so they were letting a lot go and the colonists were used to doing
Speaker:things their own way meanwhile the native peoples had endured you know the encroachment of and
Speaker:displacement while these European settlers for hundreds of years so by the time we get to the
Speaker:are the mid 1700s there were already just tons of treaties alliances and trade agreements in place
Speaker:so most of which weren't upheld yeah well they were you know after some time yeah it was very
Speaker:Darth Vader of them you know we have altered the deal pray we do not alter it further even though
Speaker:we're going to over and over again fuck you over you know until the end of time so but here there
Speaker:were there was some differences so the French had all this land but not as many people so they were
Speaker:they were more much more reliant on the natives so they worked really hard to have agreements that
Speaker:they actually held up their end of the bargain more and they intermarried a lot so like the
Speaker:French tended to drop their racial prejudices and enter into these highly profitable marriage
Speaker:they sell their daughters that's you know that's pretty par for the course of you know the chief
Speaker:you know marries off his daughter to this French Canadian business and meanwhile so his tribe can
Speaker:suddenly help with their fur because the the French Canadians were doing their main source
Speaker:was the fur trade so it's tons of trapping of animals in which the natives were really good
Speaker:at helping with all that so everybody's making some cash and so the French you know dudes were
Speaker:like oh I don't I will marry your daughter I am highly in love with all of the money we are about
Speaker:to make it's not like wives aren't disposable anyway beaver pelts work for good money so
Speaker:uh beaver pelts yeah it's like you just traded your daughter for a beaver pelt that's um no
Speaker:that's no for all of the that's a beaver pelt for a beaver pelt the cash guns and booze you get
Speaker:for selling your daughter to get beaver pelts to white people on the other side of the world
Speaker:but that was just like you know so the French were had much stronger native alliances than the
Speaker:British who would make a treaty and then violate it whenever it was convenient yeah even though
Speaker:it's not to defend the French it's just there were less of them so they were kind of forced
Speaker:into this situation so both sides start far apart on the map but colonizers be colonizing and as
Speaker:both sides are expanding their territory it was like a pressure cooker you know eventually it was
Speaker:gonna explode both France and England were claiming areas such as Nova Scotia and Acadia
Speaker:and the north and Acadia as a side note is you know as a result of all the shit that we're about
Speaker:to talk about the Acadian people were forced out and told to march south into what's now
Speaker:Louisiana and that's where Cajun people come from but at first we're just talking about settlers in
Speaker:small numbers so like our great-great-great-great grandfather we were talking about earlier and his
Speaker:family so they would you know move over the other side of the Appalachian Mountains because it was
Speaker:just amazing farmland you know in Ohio I mean always has been always will be probably yeah you
Speaker:can grow some shit there yeah mostly corn lots and lots of corn and it was kind of a ballsy thing to
Speaker:be an English settler in the Ohio River Valley because it was claimed by France there was a
Speaker:disputed territory and it was also home to all these native tribes who were allied and intermarried
Speaker:as fuck with all of the French people so to the natives raiding and burning these homesteads was
Speaker:both getting rid of more white people and doing a solid for their French allies but on the British
Speaker:side they had their own treaty negotiated by an a Native American leader named Tenogrison and I
Speaker:probably completely butchered that guy's name so I'll just use the kind of cool nickname that the
Speaker:white people gave him the half king the half half king it was in colonial history there was a few
Speaker:people they nicknamed the half king and it's basically the racist version of respect because
Speaker:he this guy was the chief of the Mingo people who were it's kind of like a blend of other tribes or
Speaker:displaced or half wiped out and he was kind of the he was a leader among them so a not white guy
Speaker:can't be a king so he's a half king so yes this is racism even in his nickname but still you know
Speaker:half king still half a cool nicknames yeah so he's gonna come back into this story a couple of times
Speaker:but for now just know that the half king had come to an agreement on behalf of like a whole tribal
Speaker:council representing a number of different you know groups of Native Americans including the
Speaker:Iroquois Confederacy I was about to say I wondered if the Iroquois League was gonna oh yeah the
Speaker:Iroquois are all a part of this in fact at the moment he's he's been given kind of the blessing
Speaker:to speak on their behalf even though sometimes they got their own people in there and once again
Speaker:I'm kind of having to super simplify some of this stuff because we're doing a short podcast and not
Speaker:like a 400 level American history class so it's already kind of warm in our pressure cooker when
Speaker:the colonial powers turn up the knob by building military forts to project power directly into the
Speaker:wilderness there had been previous scuffles there have been some treaties and more tension building
Speaker:and then the the old governor general of New France died and his eventual replacement was
Speaker:a guy named the Marquis Duquesne at this point French start getting a little bit more picky
Speaker:about enforcing their treaties with their own tribal allies like for example the Miami people
Speaker:are not supposed to trade with the British they have an exclusive deal with the French
Speaker:and they're and so the French tell the Miami people to knock it off the Miami people ignore
Speaker:them yeah because fuck you and so the French decide to call up some of their own Ottawa
Speaker:tribal allies and send in some troops with muskets to straighten the Miami people out because
Speaker:once again as cozy as the French were with the natives it only goes so far if you still fuck
Speaker:with the money you gonna get shot well yeah because again it's it's really the bottom line
Speaker:don't fuck with white people's money do not fuck with with people's money it's
Speaker:it's our hard line but in this case they were simply just trading with everybody and not just
Speaker:the French and then they got shot so by the time we get into 1753 it becomes clear that in order
Speaker:to protect this really important region that everybody knows is going to be covered with
Speaker:the best farms in colonial America the French will need to keep armed men in the region at all times
Speaker:so up goes some forts and you can probably imagine what these 18th century wilderness forts look like
Speaker:they're completely made out of wood from local timber there'll be a few central buildings
Speaker:surrounded by a palisade which is like sharpened tree trunks in a fence all the way around so uh
Speaker:but yeah the the forts were not the coziest of accommodations but were a hell of a lot better
Speaker:than being camped in the middle of a forest filled with native Americans who are really good at
Speaker:killing around in that said forest the French expanded south and they were kicking out any
Speaker:British squatters along the way and then that caused more heated conversations to go back in
Speaker:the colonial capitals about what's going on you know more and more French are moving into the area
Speaker:and and then the native allies that were the natives of the British were saying uh what the
Speaker:fuck and the half king he absolutely hated the French the guy told stories to anyone who would
Speaker:listen that the French had killed had killed cooked and eaten his father oh i mean and if
Speaker:that's true legit reason i mean yeah i'm even if you even just think that's true it's a legit
Speaker:reason to hate the fuck those human eating motherfuckers i have no yeah once you get the to
Speaker:the they ate my dad you can see some some not nice thing so the half king actually um marches
Speaker:i also think scalp mom is is on that list too also pretty rough yeah so um so the half king
Speaker:marches right up to the gates of Fort LeBeouf and yes like Shia LeBeouf translates literally
Speaker:the beef oh so he goes into Fort LeBeouf and and just and just yells at them that he that
Speaker:the French need to leave this area or he threatens military action and you can imagine you know the
Speaker:French the other side uh you're going all Monty Python oh my ha ha ha your mother smells of
Speaker:go away or i will taunt you a second time so uh so the half king goes off in a huff having
Speaker:accomplished you know fuck all but but he's other than being like horribly mock he was rebuffed
Speaker:rebuffed at LeBeouf so runners were dispatched to the to the important British colonial leaders to
Speaker:let them know about the French troop presence in the Ohio River Valley and not only did the
Speaker:British have their own claims to protect but there were important business contracts writing it because
Speaker:once again there's always money history books often don't like to talk about all the money and
Speaker:oh well that's the thing i mean money is at the root of all of it all evil i mean and we're about
Speaker:to get into some evil all of it so the half king sent his people the the chief of the Mohawk uh
Speaker:showed up on behalf of their tribal council like representing a whole nother group of native
Speaker:Americans who were all allied with the British and demanded that the British live up to their
Speaker:obligations to keep the French out of the area and when the governor of New York didn't immediately
Speaker:just call up troops and like get this shit started they they took off pissed off and that
Speaker:was the point where they say that the cozy relationship between the British and the Iroquois
Speaker:Confederacy took a hit like it wasn't completely broken down at this point but i was about to say
Speaker:because that came later yeah so the French have really strong alliances with their native allies
Speaker:and the British just weakened their ones with the most important because in this in this area the
Speaker:Iroquois are the ones you need the most now the Cherokee they're kind of in the background of
Speaker:this story and through the course of the war they switch sides like four times and just like
Speaker:whichever is the most expedient whichever way the wind blows yeah no no they're like all of them
Speaker:were just trying to do the best they could in a shitty situation as they were slowly losing land
Speaker:and having to i mean since we live on Cherokee land i mean we're recording this from occupied
Speaker:Cherokee land so believe it or not we're that was all just the prelude to our real story
Speaker:it's time to introduce our main character for the rest of this this talk today uh there are
Speaker:plenty of important figures we could we could have picked and some different angles we could
Speaker:have looked at but but as Americans and especially thinking of this from a you know quote unquote
Speaker:family point of view there's only one choice the father figure of us all i speak of course of George
Speaker:motherfucking Washington uh he's a complicated dude yeah he's all kinds of full of good things
Speaker:and bad things rolled into one extraordinarily complicated human man but this is young George
Speaker:Washington oh so was he less complicated and more of a dick i well i'm gonna be interested to see
Speaker:like where you are at the beginning of this and then once we get to the end of the second part
Speaker:or actually all of it just how your opinion will shift but just think back for a moment and think
Speaker:of yourself just like in grade school like you know we all think of George Washington in the
Speaker:Revolutionary War and as president first president of the United States some kid that chopped down a
Speaker:cherry tree which turns out was complete and total utter bullshit and didn't even really happen or
Speaker:have any kind of relevance in life and yet we still learn that yeah even and i'm pretty sure
Speaker:that even halfway through high school i was convinced George Washington had a homicidal
Speaker:hatred of cherry trees and a like a psychotic inability to lie and then you're like no that
Speaker:motherfucker lied all of those things were true it turns out cherry trees were perfectly safe
Speaker:around him and he lied his ass off when necessary however while being uh you know a relatively
Speaker:forthright dude but as we're about to see so this is not the white-haired figure in the hall of
Speaker:presidents at Disneyland in 1752 little Georgie was only 20 years old the age of your nephew
Speaker:so that's you got to think about Xander yeah in your head in terms of like that's how old this
Speaker:guy is when the story starts 20 year old punk ass kid this kid even though of course in the 1700s
Speaker:even children are just considered little adults expected to just do what they needed to be done
Speaker:but he was very ambitious but he had no idea the incredible place he would take in the world in all
Speaker:of history but let's get like a visual picture of young George Washington at this point he's
Speaker:six feet tall which is you know in mid-1700s is so pretty big guy so he's little shorter than
Speaker:Xander right but yeah but if you grade him on a curve he would be more like six three or four
Speaker:yeah because because people were average guys were more like five three to five four back then
Speaker:so he was a pretty big guy and in fact he was strong as hell and his hands were so big he had
Speaker:to have custom-made gloves for the size of his just oven mitt his big meat tennis racket size
Speaker:hands so he's got reddish brown hair that's like tied back in a tight tail or sometimes fitted in
Speaker:a silk bag and though we're a long way from his like denture years even at 20 years old George
Speaker:had like Austin Powers like teeth dentistry is important children he had like terrible tooth
Speaker:decay and so even at this age it was bad enough that like a friend from this time in his life
Speaker:wrote a letter about how fucked up his teeth were and so he so he even at this young man he had this
Speaker:very tight-lipped expression that you see in all of the paintings and statues because he just his
Speaker:whole life he was super self-conscious about his teeth interestingly enough though he did not have
Speaker:like the booming commanding voice you would expect from a George Washington though he was physically
Speaker:strong George kept getting sick because this of course the era of just all kinds of disease
Speaker:because it's like on one hand it's like before any real like actual medicine but it's also
Speaker:when world travel was a thing and diseases were truly traveling the globe at at speeds never
Speaker:dreamt before this this time like it literally took years for the black death to move from China
Speaker:all the way to like western Europe but now shit can just move in a matter of months because of
Speaker:all these ships going all over the world thank you imperialism so you know I can't I like traveling
Speaker:so yeah no travel's good just so I mean not traveling on a boat for months or vaccines
Speaker:getting lied to about you know how awesome this place is that's so just again despite being
Speaker:physically strong George kept getting sick by the time he was 20 he'd already had malaria smallpox
Speaker:and a nasty bout of pleurisy in his lungs which left him with kind of a weak breathy voice that
Speaker:didn't seem to match his like you know super imposing things so I guess he talked kind of like
Speaker:original Dumbledore from Harry Potter with kind of a wheezy voice I'm George Washington
Speaker:that would be amazing uh so think about that for the rest of this story just this kind of
Speaker:like kick-ass looking guy I cannot think it's Dumbledore George Washington just got really
Speaker:fucked up in my head especially now like and then make them 20. 20 years old wheezy George
Speaker:wheezy George and unfortunately like all later in life it's it's pneumonia that he that he caught
Speaker:that killed him so his lungs got him in the end as they do yeah so young George was an interesting
Speaker:guy kind of a study in contradictions his temper was absolutely terrifying so he worked at keeping
Speaker:a tight lid in his emotions he developed self-control because if he lost his shit
Speaker:it was bad and he was a big strong dude with you know massive hands well I mean you know
Speaker:self-awareness he was a bit of a romantic but you know especially when he was like writing
Speaker:love letters to his various you know young lady friends but he was always deadly serious and he
Speaker:was like for a young man he was not the life of the party he was the guy who would be like even
Speaker:when everybody else is trying to relax and have a drink he'd be the guy talking about politics and
Speaker:current affairs even when you're just trying to have a good time dude I'm staying off social media
Speaker:asshole I already told you I'm in my media bubble so George wanted very much to be part
Speaker:of Virginia high society but he didn't have the money or the family name back from England to
Speaker:carry him kind of a fancy boy he loved fashionable clothes and and enjoyed dancing like he learned
Speaker:the latest courtly dances so if you imagine like Jane young wheezy George Washington doing Jane
Speaker:Austin style you know dancing it was fine it was just that you don't really when you think of
Speaker:George Washington you don't think of him really working hard to be this fancy boy he ordered his
Speaker:clothes from London if you will yeah no he ordered his clothes from London every year so he was this
Speaker:fancy boy but the flip side because it's always about these contradictions he was a natural
Speaker:outdoorsman who adapted easily to life in the rough country I mean he that was a brave and
Speaker:badass guy but what he wanted though was to be part of this you know high-end society he wanted
Speaker:to be an important person well I would say then he accomplished his goal so and here's the sort
Speaker:another ironic thing so once he did set his sights on military service what he wanted more than
Speaker:anything else was a royal commission in the proper British army because in the colonies there was no
Speaker:standing army they just called up militias when they needed them which were you know only got paid
Speaker:for the time they did work and it was a lot less and there was a lot less prestige and so it was
Speaker:sort of like you had to abandon your your farm and your bullshit do all this stuff at a moment's
Speaker:where whereas if you actually get a commission in the British army that is a full-time gig
Speaker:that comes with a lot of prestige and honor and can lead to the kind of political career that
Speaker:George is already looking for so what he wants to do is fight for the British more than anything else
Speaker:but it's but he but through his whole life for the British well isn't that he wants to be a red
Speaker:coat and but he never manages to achieve this however to be fair he also goes on to defeat that
Speaker:very army and become president of a whole new country so I think he wins I would say so I mean
Speaker:considering you know he's the father of our country not just some nameless faceless British
Speaker:soldier that's long dead and it will make anybody who's been a fuck up feel better when you hear
Speaker:this story because it's not just all in one straight direction upward for George he has some
Speaker:setbacks and but it starts though and I think this helps you understand too I'm gonna reference
Speaker:Alexander Hamilton and even the musical Hamilton a few times but if you learn about young George
Speaker:Washington and then you know a bit about young Alexander Hamilton later on you really get the
Speaker:sense of why George Washington saw a lot of himself in Hamilton because they were both men
Speaker:who had something to prove like Alexander Hamilton was the son of a Scottish nobleman but he was a
Speaker:bastard in theory yeah in theory that's a whole nother story but in theory he had that name but
Speaker:he was desperately poor and he always was trying to prove himself he was always trying and Hamilton
Speaker:tried to fit in with fancy society and dressed himself up and all that shit you know George
Speaker:there was a lot in common with these two guys even though George was not a bastard he was however
Speaker:this the oldest son in a second marriage so it's like he had there was an original batch of
Speaker:Washingtons and then the mom died and then several years later his dad Gus married another
Speaker:woman and then George was the oldest of the second batch kids so that could go either way depending
Speaker:on how his father would have how he liked his wives or children right and it's kind of this
Speaker:thing basically was because no one was really protected they were a landowning family the
Speaker:Washingtons had held land in Virginia going generations back even before for uh Augustine
Speaker:which is you know Gus was his nickname uh Gus Washington's family history but at the same time
Speaker:like this older batch of children got all of the best stuff they got they inherited the early
Speaker:property and cash and got all this extra stuff they all got to go to paid primary school and
Speaker:college George Washington had no formal schooling his entire life so and he was you could always
Speaker:tell that was sort of a not only jealousy but kind of like a a shortcoming and he always felt
Speaker:the absence of that because like his brothers learned how to speak French and could read Latin
Speaker:and got all this advanced stuff and probably learned all those fancy dances in college
Speaker:yeah George is having to you know go and learn all this stuff himself but George so he he was
Speaker:you know kind of equivalently basically homeschooled and he did learn you know
Speaker:certainly could read write and do math and solid stuff he just didn't have the classical education
Speaker:that you get back the formal education that you would get so his mother had to have made up
Speaker:right and actually his education and apparently you know he seems like he was a pretty educated
Speaker:dude and not just his well not just his mother his mother was actually a bit crude and half
Speaker:illiterate uh so George was on I don't mention her much but George had a complicated relationship
Speaker:with his mother don't we all yeah I know right uh it's that's a whole nother interesting story
Speaker:other he had some mommy issues too for sure and she kept fucking with his life at different so he
Speaker:had mommy issues and some daddy issues daddy issues uh however his daddy issues were cut short
Speaker:because his dad died before he was 12 years old so it's like on one hand he was well off by the
Speaker:like by the standards of actual time by the standards of the time and actual working class
Speaker:poor people he was well off but in terms of the Virginia high society that he aspired to be
Speaker:he was far short down and he would he felt like he was a loser but he was very good at math
Speaker:and it came in really handy because by the time he was 17 years old he got himself a gig as an
Speaker:apprentice for a land surveyor and then eventually completed that and like went on by the time he was
Speaker:19 years old he had a career going surveying okay so he would run off into the country you know you
Speaker:know taking measurements and you know making meticulous notes for people for all these rich
Speaker:people to come and occupy this land and to the point where he not only was had plenty of his own
Speaker:freelance work but he got named the county surveyor of one of the counties in Virginia
Speaker:so he had like okay yeah because i mean that was surveying was a huge when yeah yeah colonizing
Speaker:literally no maps yeah and so they had to do it and these are people who are wanting to establish
Speaker:farms and build buildings and you gotta you have to have a skilled surveyor just so you can make
Speaker:all your plans and know where you're gonna build your shit and George was reputedly very good at
Speaker:it and in fact he could have just done that and been successful and then in the end and probably
Speaker:maybe no America well that would have been a shorter story yeah for sure the end roll credits
Speaker:more than anyone else George looked up to his older brother Lawrence the oldest living Washington
Speaker:he was a soldier and businessman land owner and politician that sound familiar yeah okay but
Speaker:Lawrence came down with tuberculosis i think in his early to mid 40s if i remember correctly and
Speaker:it was not doing so great having tv in the mid 1700s yeah i mean having tv now sucks oh it sucks
Speaker:period but in this case when your doctor says you're probably gonna die but that maybe if you
Speaker:go move to Barbados you're the the tropical climate might help you restore you i mean which
Speaker:it won't hurt i would rather move to Barbados although i guess in that point too it's like well
Speaker:unless you get malaria because having tb and malaria but the good news is they'd already had
Speaker:everybody in Virginia had malaria by that point oh well there you go then so George dropped
Speaker:everything and accompanied his brother to Barbados that was George's one and only time out
Speaker:of the continental you know Americas and he got a little taste of that kind of uh island life and
Speaker:saw a little bit more of the greater world but guess what spoiler alert it didn't work and
Speaker:Lawrence returned to Virginia to die at his home in Mount Vernon where this seems to yeah so he
Speaker:named his younger brother George as the heir to his estate in the event his own children didn't
Speaker:survive you can probably guess how that turned out so i guess they didn't survive uh yeah
Speaker:unfortunately poor Lawrence had four children all of them died before the age of five years old
Speaker:most of them as babies which was common and unfortunately his little girl who survived him
Speaker:only lasted to like four and a half and then she got sick of some childhood elements like
Speaker:unfortunately it's like one of those things one of the most common misconceptions is this idea that
Speaker:well the average age people died was in their 40s or early 50s or whatever but what they
Speaker:don't understand is almost everybody died before they were five years old and so like
Speaker:doing your babies dying or a childhood illness wiping a kid out at like three years old that
Speaker:was super common or just accidents which is dangerous to be a kid back then but if you live
Speaker:if you made it to like a teenager you were probably going to have a normal life expectancy
Speaker:even by our standards you're probably going to live to your 60s to maybe even 80s if you're
Speaker:really lucky so it's just math that makes it where you ever you know the average age and
Speaker:that's a major misconception children die and i mean you know it's like you have eight children
Speaker:and you have two surviving children that was pretty common fucks up the math and that's why
Speaker:you also have all those kids vagina so yeah then this poor and once again this poor woman uh she
Speaker:had had four children by Lawrence Washington none of them survived like imagine having to bury four
Speaker:kids and then he dies then she goes and remarries so that instantly means Mount Vernon goes to
Speaker:George and interestingly enough total side note but Mount Vernon was named for a British admiral
Speaker:named Edward Vernon who was Lawrence Washington's commanding officer when he'd been in the British
Speaker:military so the most like super famous American historical sites named after a British admiral
Speaker:well you know nothing's perfect so uh 1752 Washington's hit this point where he wants
Speaker:to own property not just be a surveyor for a bunch of other people and you get there really
Speaker:get the sense that he wants to follow his dead brother's lead and kind of like achieve the things
Speaker:that Lawrence could have if he had lived long enough like political clout right yeah now that
Speaker:he can be that he can have the social standing that he wants yeah Lawrence Washington he'd held
Speaker:a position on the house of burgesses which was like a high ranking like it was a search of a
Speaker:legislature type position okay and so and Washington wanted to have a similar thing so he had
Speaker:political goals he wanted to own money he wanted to have business deals he wanted wanted to wear
Speaker:fancy shoes and dance is that all of the above and marrying well so we're saying yeah George
Speaker:is trying to live up to his to what Lawrence might have done if he'd have survived but tuberculosis
Speaker:took out Lawrence so that meant the net the thing missing on George's resume next was military
Speaker:service and this is just as our pressure cooker in North America is heating up so one of the things
Speaker:that's not brought up much like I said earlier is how much money and business interests factor into
Speaker:the lead up to the French and Indian war the British government had awarded a huge land grant
Speaker:to the Ohio company this collection of these business land speculators and if the French
Speaker:held on to all this land in the Ohio River Valley they stand to lose a fortune okay the Ohio company
Speaker:made a recommendation to build a fort at the forks of the Ohio River so it's like the perfect spot
Speaker:where the rivers branch off to establish control of the area the fort forks the the fort at the
Speaker:forks and so like right here would be a perfect spot you know have a fort with a bunch of troops
Speaker:stationed that way they can protect settlers and you know you always have people in the area
Speaker:to establish control one of the major investors in the Ohio company was none other than Lawrence
Speaker:Washington so who died this same year when this is going on but he had been part of this like
Speaker:he drafted this recommendation like we should build a fork here please Virginia government do
Speaker:that um so when the Governor General Duquesne of New France learned of the the British proposed
Speaker:forts he's like well we got our own forts we will build their own forts from Lake Erie all the way
Speaker:down to the Ohio River and probably had both middle fingers raised while he was doing it so
Speaker:like so the British announced that they want to build forts and he's like well we're gonna build
Speaker:our own forts directly opposing your forts so they can taunt each other from across the river
Speaker:so once again the temperature's going up we're not we're not there at war yet so so no now it's
Speaker:just like the insults and the antics ensue right so on the British side the awesomely named Robert
Speaker:Dinwiddie was Lieutenant Governor Dinwiddie he is a major player in this not Dimwiddie but Din
Speaker:Dinwiddie it is a very like JK Rowling kind of name so he is the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia
Speaker:also a major investor in the Ohio company along with Lawrence Washington but as as the
Speaker:Lieutenant Governor he was also in a position to do something about it he petitioned the British
Speaker:crown for permission to build the proposed forts in the contested land took an entire year but
Speaker:orders came back from London build the forts and send an envoy to inform the French that their
Speaker:presence in the Ohio River Valley was no longer welcome George saw his opportunity and went for
Speaker:it requesting the appointment as the envoy I'm gonna guess that didn't go well well that's what
Speaker:we're about to talk about now you might wonder why the hell anyone would appoint a 21 year old
Speaker:kid with zero military experience in charge of an important expedition that like with diplomatic
Speaker:implications across the globe yeah yeah but then you remember that George was known because he was
Speaker:working so hard to fit in with all these folks and was out there surveying all this land so
Speaker:they knew he had experience going out into the woods and dealing with shit and you also remember
Speaker:George's older brother was a major investor in this company that's the whole reason we're doing
Speaker:this and then so now he's a major shareholder so you can make you can probably guess that the
Speaker:Governor Dinwiddie felt better that somebody with the company's interests in mind was the guy
Speaker:leading this expedition and in fact uh George through the rest of his life was accused of
Speaker:representing the company the Ohio company not necessarily the the British government and the
Speaker:Virginian colonists that tracks it's hard to really say however it's hard to really say however that
Speaker:sounds like a track but once you see how this all goes it's like so George is a complicated guy
Speaker:you'll have to tell me how you feel about him after the end of all this shit so uh lord I don't
Speaker:know how I feel about him now I doubt any more information's gonna help that the orders were
Speaker:simple enough Ron Chernow writes in his biography of Washington quote if the French were found to be
Speaker:building forts on English soil they should be peacefully asked to depart if they failed to
Speaker:comply however we do strictly charge and command you to drive them off by force of arms this order
Speaker:was signed by none other than King George the second the father of the father yeah I was about
Speaker:to say so this is daddy of our King George from our story of the American Revolution
Speaker:all King George's you know so in this point the you know George Washington is acting under direct
Speaker:orders from King George himself so the newly minted major George Washington and yes that's
Speaker:right he goes from never having served any military experience to now he's a major in
Speaker:charge of this expedition by means of money yeah wasted no time in recruiting his team
Speaker:even though however to be to be fair one of the things he does he is not given any upfront cash
Speaker:he has to fund all this shit himself and get paid on the back end but that's what you do because
Speaker:he's he's wanting to fit in with all these rich folk and that's how this is done well I mean
Speaker:that's a lot of that that tracks as well I mean especially if you're a history of America yeah
Speaker:if you're a gentleman and you're going to serve your your country you're expected to fund it and
Speaker:then you know you come back and then we'll pay you and hope that they actually live up to that
Speaker:agreement because the U.S. Congress doesn't like to do that either yep we're gonna get to that
Speaker:because they sucked from before inception yeah but there wasn't they weren't even a thing and
Speaker:they fucked this up somehow so uh he so so George go wastes no time in recruiting his team making
Speaker:sure to get several people who are very familiar with the western country and the local natives
Speaker:and one thing George knows how to do is go off for months into the country at this point because
Speaker:he's been doing it in the wilderness he's been doing it for years now as part of his job as a
Speaker:surveyor so they made their way through the untamed wilderness dealt with some shitty weather
Speaker:and there's this one point where this is Pennsylvania in the middle of winter so it's
Speaker:cold as fuck there's snow icy rivers everywhere and so they get to a river crossing and there's
Speaker:just like it's like ice flows you know flowing down the river they're all putting their stuff
Speaker:in canoes or rafts and going to bed you know easier crossings and George decides you know
Speaker:to swing his dick a little bit and show everybody how cool he is he rides his horse directly into
Speaker:the water and the horse swims across and he's like high in the saddle just looking every inch
Speaker:the total badass as the horse just cuts through this icy water and then the horse gets hypothermia
Speaker:and dies not this r.i.p horse no we're not we're not to the point where horses die yet not yet we
Speaker:have multiple horse deaths in this story we're not there at this point to be fair this is just
Speaker:a baller move he just looks cool everybody's just like oh look at that people tell the stories of
Speaker:this guy as he rides his horse straight into the water and in you know through his entire life
Speaker:George is is an incredible horseman this is like one of the things he's very good at he's an
Speaker:accomplished rider and he does this scene even in the revolutionary war later on middle-aged George
Speaker:Washington rides his horse across rivers and everybody's like damn so it's just one of his
Speaker:signature moves just to show how cool he is he knows how to do this I've trained my horses
Speaker:bitches so then it was like once they cross this is where they get to that the forks in the Ohio
Speaker:that that his brother had prized as this spot so they they make a camp and then George starts
Speaker:taking you know doing his surveying thing and taking great notes first thing okay this is where
Speaker:we need to build this fort uh for his report so then he dispatches messengers to the local
Speaker:tribal leaders because he needs information about French activity and he wants an escort to fort the
Speaker:beef so that's when tenagreson I think that's what he's called the half king comes back into
Speaker:the story and even though this guy's twice George's age they say that they got along like George
Speaker:earned some respect from this guy because once again he may be he may be a little bit of a fancy
Speaker:boy but he he's a fair is tough and brave so uh and that's another thing too where George and his
Speaker:if you if you read his journals and letters he's kind of a mixed bag when it comes like he's not as
Speaker:instantly racist as some of the people of his time like he's respect instantly racist he's
Speaker:as he's respectful for what the natives are good at but he also he essentially calls them all
Speaker:mercenary and money grubbing and and questions their loyalty which if you read the rest of this
Speaker:well I mean that could be fair though if he's questioning loyalties they didn't have a whole
Speaker:lot of them like if you hear the rest of this story and look at it purely from his point of view
Speaker:you can see where he's coming from but if you look at it from their point of view you can totally
Speaker:understand why they're just trying to make the best of you know they got this bad hand like oh
Speaker:excuse me can you please help me with this land I'm stealing from you so this was still the age
Speaker:of genteel war and diplomacy so George reaches this like little French trading post and they
Speaker:immediately invite him to dinner as their guests they all they the wine is flowing freely at this
Speaker:dinner French are getting all completely wine drunk and George is just sitting there listening
Speaker:while they just say the quiet part out loud they're like oh yes well the French will dominate
Speaker:this region and kick the British out and he's just like oh okay I see how this is and he's quietly
Speaker:taking notes for his entire life George is not much of a drinker and he also thinks that people
Speaker:serving the military shouldn't drink at all and once again there's a couple points in this story
Speaker:it's like okay I get why he has this opinion this is one of them where it's like he's there as this
Speaker:diplomat and they're literally saying his his mission is doomed to fail I mean he's just doing
Speaker:the courtesy of handing them a note that they're going to ignore and then telling them telling him
Speaker:to his face but then they they provide him an escort so this one he's got a French escort and
Speaker:in his native escort taking him all the way to Fort Shia LaBeouf he delivers the message on
Speaker:behalf of the British crown and then they ask him you know can you hang out for a few days
Speaker:while we send word back and to Governor Duquesne we got to find out you know we got to give you
Speaker:a message to send back to your guys so he walks around and takes this shitload of notes about
Speaker:where all the where all the people with guns are it's like oh there's a guard tower here there's
Speaker:this many dudes this is I mean it was it was very nice of them to give him a grand tour of their
Speaker:facilities yeah and he wasn't being dishonest like everybody knew he was doing he's walking
Speaker:around taking what are you doing I'm surveying it's like I'm just counting the guards up there
Speaker:in that tower so the friend the trip back home was difficult they decided uh you know this is
Speaker:the middle of winter the horses are not doing well so they abandoned their horses so the whole
Speaker:is the force her first death maybe the horses are okay I don't think the horses are okay I don't
Speaker:think they made it uh you don't know that they're resilient creatures they are uh they ditch the
Speaker:horses uh and George actually dressed up like a native american he actually put on like buckskin
Speaker:walking leathers he and maybe even moccasins so a little cultural appropriation well he was in
Speaker:disguise I gotta hike through central Pennsylvania these clothes are way better than my fancy boy
Speaker:officer uniform probably yeah he he winterized yes he winterized and and so they're hiking back
Speaker:the rest of the way and it was quite a little adventure so um at one point George he'd gotten
Speaker:ill again and was so tired and exhausted and malnourished that he actually had one of their
Speaker:native guides holding his backpack and then in the middle they're walking through a field and
Speaker:suddenly this guy just runs out in front of them whips out his horse pistol and just tries to shoot
Speaker:these guys pulp fiction style and so the guy misses the bull just whizzes behind the shoes too
Speaker:holy fuck so George like immediately like are you shot no are you shot no so George's friend uh
Speaker:runs over beats the shit out of this guy whips as he should whips out his musket is about to blow
Speaker:his brains out and George's like no no no stops out don't kill him just because he tried to kill
Speaker:us doesn't mean we need to kill him um well I mean that's that's debatable that's so that's
Speaker:a conversation I guess the next move they decide to tie the guy up to a tree and then release him
Speaker:at night and so then they're like terrified that guy's gonna go get friends and come back and
Speaker:finish them off so George's friend because it's just the two of them at this point are just
Speaker:running for it in the opposite direction trying to lose you know trying to lose this guy in case
Speaker:guy and they're just terrible there's other guys just so pissed he's like why didn't you let me
Speaker:shoot him we're gonna die because of you so so the next day they get to another river crossing
Speaker:and the river is almost completely frozen over there's just like a chunk in the middle
Speaker:of that's just not frozen over and so they spend all day constructing a crude ass raft
Speaker:to float their way across and so while George has a has made a makeshift pole he's just kind
Speaker:of pulling through the water suddenly an ice float goes loose hits his pole and knocks him
Speaker:into 10 feet of like freezing ass water hypothermia yeah so so he uh so George
Speaker:scrambles back up to the raft and they make it over to this tiny little island where there's
Speaker:no fire they just hover shivering in this island all night long in the middle of this is February
Speaker:in Pennsylvania I believe so I guess it's advantageous for America that he didn't just die
Speaker:there yeah and funny enough it was his friend who ended up getting frostbite not George because once
Speaker:again he was a tough bastard oh goodness he made his way back to Williamsburg and delivered the
Speaker:sealed fuck you letter from the French to governor Dinwiddie and then the governor gave him one
Speaker:entire night to turn his like seven thousand words worth of notes into one concise report
Speaker:and didn't tell him it would be published all over the world but George he stayed up all night did it
Speaker:and that put his name out there for the first time and definitely not the last so this was George's
Speaker:first adventure into the wilderness which was just for governor Dinwiddie for governor Dinwiddie
Speaker:and it was just a formality it was just to tell the French you have to leave and the French saying
Speaker:no no how about no I don't you a second time so uh what really pissed George off was he got a
Speaker:measly 50 pounds for his trip which would be the equivalent about 30 000 in modern dollars but you
Speaker:also remember he had to pay for all of it up front so he basically got his expenses covered comes
Speaker:back and doesn't have like really jack to show for it other than he almost died of pneumonia died and
Speaker:of getting shot pneumonia however he was given orders to raise up and train a hundred militia
Speaker:for you know what was going to be the next move and so George decides a little political calculus
Speaker:he's like okay I'll do this but um and George has this thing where he always combines like humility
Speaker:with a bit of ego and so he's like yes and I humbly ask the you that I should be promoted
Speaker:to lieutenant colonel and it was granted lieutenant colonel George Washington 22 years old
Speaker:so at this point in Washington's life you have to kind of understand that it's like on one hand
Speaker:he had some land he had some things going on but they were all kind of self-sustaining and weren't
Speaker:giving him a lot of money to work with so he actually needed a job it wasn't like he was
Speaker:independently wealthy like he didn't have fuck you money he still had to work and this paycheck
Speaker:versus pride thing was kind of a recurring theme with him so you know officers in the colonial
Speaker:militia got paid a lot less than those royal appointed ones we were talking I was about to
Speaker:say that paycheck versus pride thing that sounds very Hamilton yeah and so more than once George
Speaker:actually turned down a paycheck and he volunteered his services rather than be paid less than what he
Speaker:believed he was worth and that was really one thing kind of a political calculus because if
Speaker:he just took this short-term job in the colonial militia people could always say he was doing it
Speaker:for money or because of his connections to the Ohio company but by by volunteering and not
Speaker:accepting the salary he was able to say well I was just wanting to serve my country I was just doing
Speaker:my part but he but the thing was political clout instead of actual capital but he couldn't afford
Speaker:it there was a point where he had to borrow money from other people and that also sounds about right
Speaker:that that's a very uh white male thing to do he wants to be proud he wants to everybody to think
Speaker:he's this yeah everyone wants him to think that he's a bigger he has a bigger dick than he does
Speaker:that sounds about right and Washington has some serious he's both ambitious and he has
Speaker:some pride he has some dick swinging to do yet and it may be that he that he borrowed money from
Speaker:his like one of his best friend's fathers while he was flirting heavily with that guy's wife so
Speaker:I'm gonna have to learn how to not audibly sigh so much if I'm ever gonna make this work so but
Speaker:getting back to the military career as you can imagine George's 100 militia volunteers weren't
Speaker:exactly the cream of the crop oh you don't say so these are all guys who decided inbred farmers
Speaker:yeah they didn't have proper clothing weapons or gear they were drunk half the time and he was that
Speaker:sounds very America though he was constantly pissed off too that under the English system
Speaker:he was forced to obey the orders of a low-ranking officer if said officer had a royal British
Speaker:commission so that means even as a lieutenant colonel he'd have to obey a captain even though
Speaker:he technically ranked because British so this is the British outranked Americans just by being
Speaker:British this just stung at George's pride oh I'm fucking sure inside he was wanting to take his
Speaker:massive hands and just crush the skulls of these assholes but he couldn't so he just tried to make
Speaker:the best of things and make his ragtag troops ready for their second mission into the wilderness
Speaker:meanwhile governor Dinwiddie sent a guy named William Trent with 40 men out to the forks of
Speaker:the Ohio in early 1754 that spot that George had surveyed out to begin construction of a small
Speaker:fort the French however sent over 500 soldiers with additional support to secure the area
Speaker:but once again we're still in gentlemanly time so the French officer not only allowed the British
Speaker:workers to leave peacefully but he actually purchased their their tools and construction
Speaker:equipment for a fair market price so he gave them cash and then sent them on their way I know right
Speaker:well we were already here however while they were leaving essentially flipping the two middle
Speaker:fingers because they tore down everything the British made and built a much more grand larger
Speaker:series of structures that they named after their recently promoted governor general of New France
Speaker:Fort Duquesne sounds douchey yeah there's douches aplenty in this story our cup overflow with
Speaker:say I don't think this is it's all douche it is nothing but a big squeegee of vinegar water yeah
Speaker:so Dinwiddie sent Washington and his men into the wilderness to secure and assist with the
Speaker:construction of what was supposed to be Fort Trent but on the way the guys are coming back
Speaker:the other direction with none of their equipment and like about that fort so he's like learning
Speaker:this on the way he's only got 100 guys with him so then his tribal allies show up including once
Speaker:again the half king who looks at these hundred assholes and is immediately not thrilled with
Speaker:the situation yeah well you know I'm not thrilled with the situation because he had just been out
Speaker:there in the Ohio country and he knows how many French soldiers are there and he's like and you
Speaker:show up with these guys um but George is like he assures everyone he's like no no this is the
Speaker:tip of the spear we're just the vanguard of this huge British host with cannons and and all kinds
Speaker:of guys so he bullshitted them yes he was 100 talking out of his ass at this time I mean
Speaker:sometimes a bunch of bullshit you can if you can get away with it it's like he's not going to
Speaker:get barely into this trip and immediately turn around and run back to Governor Dinwiddie and
Speaker:said oh there's there's too many of these guys man he's not gonna do that he's got he's trying
Speaker:to prove himself and he's got dicks to swing he's 22 years old and I can tell you as a guy who was
Speaker:once a 22 year old male you are convinced you're invincible and you can just pull off any impossible
Speaker:task that you set for yourself so after clearing out an area and establishing a temporary base
Speaker:they got word of a small French scouting force not far away and then that night they're they're
Speaker:camped and everybody is hearing people skulking around they're convinced that there are French
Speaker:spies creeping around their camp they don't catch anybody but they're like their nerves are shot
Speaker:they're convinced they're all about to be murdered in their sleep paranoid yeah they're they're all
Speaker:freaked out the the scouts find a small group of French Canadians encamped nearby in kind of a
Speaker:hidden glen so George decides they're going to go after these guys because they said they're
Speaker:convinced that they were the ones they were around in their camp they're the French spies right the
Speaker:half king scouted the enemy's location found out where these guys were encamped and so they decide
Speaker:to march through the night to prep their first engagement with the enemy now I've seen photographs
Speaker:and watched a video of a guy walking around the location that this this happened in George's story
Speaker:is that they they sort of completely surrounded the glen but were spotted by the French who
Speaker:immediately opened fire on them so the battle immediately ensued and that may be true I have
Speaker:no way of knowing what happened for sure but if you look at the terrain it was an ambush it sounds
Speaker:like a bunch of bulls it was an ambush because it's like it's like there's there's like a high
Speaker:ridge with a bunch of tree cover and that's where George and his guys were positioned and he sent
Speaker:all the natives on the back side to cut off any possibility of retreat so all the French are
Speaker:literally like asleep in their bed rolls and then if you look at the numbers you know 10 French
Speaker:soldiers were shot dead and more were wounded almost nobody gets hurt on the British side and
Speaker:so the like the whole thing was over in like 15 minutes so what happened next is also debated to
Speaker:this very day the French commanding officer was named Joseph Coulon de Jumonville and he was
Speaker:bearing diplomatic papers on his person that means if the French forces had simply been on a
Speaker:diplomatic mission and if George had fired on them unprovoked then he'd have committed a no-no
Speaker:in this age of genteel gentlemanly warfare that we've been talking about so obviously there's no
Speaker:way he would have done that so there are three versions of this story we'll see what we'll see
Speaker:what you think might have happened after you hear all of them this is a very clue moment so
Speaker:one version of this story and maybe the most dramatic is that uh that this guy Jumonville
Speaker:was wounded during the skirmish but then he started waving his papers around in the air
Speaker:like I am a diplomat I am a diplomat do not shoot and then started reading his own message from the
Speaker:French government declaring that all British were ordered to leave the Ohio river valley
Speaker:so the half king walks right up to the officer and splits his face open with a tomahawk in front of
Speaker:god and everybody oh that tracks that guy really hated the French remember the whole I mean you
Speaker:know father thing he yeah I'm you ate my father prepare to die and if that wasn't enough he dipped
Speaker:his hands in the officer's brains and then scalped him now the second version of the story says that
Speaker:Jumonville was just simply shot and killed in the short in the middle of the battle and that's just
Speaker:all there was to it either way he's dead and then what happens next isn't up for debate the native
Speaker:Americans descended on the wounded French soldiers braining just smashing in the skulls of all of them
Speaker:and scalping all of them so like the ones who just simply surrendered were allowed to live but all of
Speaker:the wounded were just massacred right then and there the natives just finish off and scalp the
Speaker:wounded French so George Washington was the commanding officer during an ambush that included
Speaker:atrocities that were a bit foreign to the European sensibilities though to be fair if he was too hard
Speaker:in his native allies they would abandon the British and he'd be up shit creek without even
Speaker:a paddle or a canoe so while the George claimed the French fired first and reasoned that they were
Speaker:on a diplomatic mission he was like well if these guys wouldn't have picked such a hidden spot for
Speaker:their camp if they were truly diplomats they just walked right up and handed us a note and they were
Speaker:sneaking around our camp the night before which means they're spies and it was totally cool every
Speaker:we did everything right you guys it's totally kosher it's fine and you know so George always
Speaker:maintained this to the day he died that this was a legit fight and that the other guys fired first
Speaker:which is a smart thing to say because most historians consider the battle of Jumonville
Speaker:Glen the first shots fired in the French and Indian war and which also means that depending
Speaker:on how you look at that this may be one of the opening skirmishes of an entire world war that
Speaker:spanned five entire continents thanks George now the French version the third version of the story
Speaker:you would basically know that the you know the revolution was just two guys named George
Speaker:swinging their dicks around indeed but at this point the Georges are all lined up against the
Speaker:French their dicks are swinging in the same direction so the uh the third French version
Speaker:of the story paints the British as dishonorable ambushers who shot Jumonville in the head while
Speaker:he was reading his papers and they actually said that the Native Americans prevented a total
Speaker:massacre they even said that the natives actually rushed forward and put their bodies in harm's way
Speaker:to prevent all of the prisoners from being executed and once again if you remember how
Speaker:the French are trying to make their allies happy painting natives as heroes once again
Speaker:it makes sense so everybody has reasons to lie about all this so there's no way to know the truth
Speaker:the truth is everyone was wrong and everyone was terrible yeah and they probably just
Speaker:it could have literally been anything but as far as the French go George Washington is a war
Speaker:criminal and that may be fair so he sends the message back to Governor Dinwiddie who's stuck
Speaker:with okay what do we do now but remember there was direct orders from the crown if the French
Speaker:don't leave you're supposed to shoot at them so so Dinwiddie's like okay so he sends strings of
Speaker:wampum which I don't know if you remember what wampum but that was sort of like the the beads
Speaker:made of seashells and and oysters and stuff like that that was used as currency and trade between
Speaker:tribes it was sort of like the native de facto trading thing so sends wampum and barrels of rum
Speaker:for quote Indian diplomacy while writing letters back to London and making it sound like the
Speaker:British troops were just minor partners we had to help them out we were allies after all we were
Speaker:there to shoot them yeah you know and you know the French got shot so either way the consequences of
Speaker:these actions spiraled far beyond the colonies and contributed to the whole global seven years
Speaker:world war thing or 22 as as Ron Chernow puts it while the folks at home embraced him as an
Speaker:improbable hero Washington was denigrated in England as a reckless young warrior and in
Speaker:France as an outright assassin so again way to go George I can't think of George Washington as
Speaker:an assassin though I mean he's I mean I my knowing how he presented us often as I've been
Speaker:reading a lot about young George Washington I don't think I am busher I don't think he knowingly
Speaker:shot the guy waving around diplomatic papers either it's true that one of the natives killed
Speaker:the guy because if he was wounded they did kill all the wounded people or they just got shot in
Speaker:the battle and he just died as a result of that but I don't think he intentionally pulled that
Speaker:pulled that move because even he for once again that wouldn't have gone with the reputation he
Speaker:was going for but he was but it happened but he was stuck with what happened now accounts of
Speaker:George's command style over the years always point to his homicidal bravery I mean he was always
Speaker:willing to put himself in incredible danger and over the course of his life had multiple horses
Speaker:shot out from under him or would go back and find just bullet holes in his coat and he just acted
Speaker:like he was invincible and frankly there's no evidence to say that he wasn't bullet proof
Speaker:because he never got shot his entire life despite putting himself in many situations where he was
Speaker:getting shot at and he always led from the front like he was not a he deflected them just now
Speaker:during around this time in his early 20s he wrote to his brother Jack quote I have heard the bullets
Speaker:whistle and believe me there was something charming in the sound which again he was writing
Speaker:to his brother trying to sound tough and cool like he was the Patrick Swayze of the day very
Speaker:very you know very macho oh wow and funny enough this there's the word of that got out and at one
Speaker:point King George was like like you may perhaps he'd change his mind if he hears a few more uh
Speaker:yeah I mean so George pulls his men back several miles to a defensive position and begin
Speaker:construction on a little emergency fort so they could dig in and not because George does not want
Speaker:to run away all the way back to Virginia he wants to hold the ground that they of course because
Speaker:he's you know swing still swinging his giant he's invincible bullet deflecting dick but he knows
Speaker:that he's not in a great position he so he's smart enough you can get an idea of his mindset by the
Speaker:name he gives this little fort fort necessity for necessity I mean which is the mother of all
Speaker:invention when the tribal allies took stock of the situation they realized the British were
Speaker:incredibly outnumbered and they decided to peace out making them making the British even more
Speaker:vulnerable well actually Virginians the half king described fort necessity as that little thing upon
Speaker:the meadow oh what that can't possibly I mean that's not good for George's giant dick no so
Speaker:they got deserted the natives were like oh fuck this we have zero no reason to die here for you
Speaker:guys no thank you so one thing I'm completely skipping over is all the road building that's
Speaker:been going on this whole time and throughout the war so you can pretty much assume that whenever
Speaker:we're not talking about building a fort or a battle there are people working on roads full
Speaker:time because you need them in order to get supply wagons in to get troops in faster roads are a big
Speaker:deal everybody you know they learned that lesson well from the Roman Empire that good roads mean
Speaker:you can get things and people around fast so they're doing all that so while they're working
Speaker:on this fort and getting everything ready they're also building roads so that the people in cannons
Speaker:and they do get a little bit of reinforcements from Virginia so they they're up to 300 men in
Speaker:fort necessity and so in June 28 George calls everyone back into the fort from road building
Speaker:and such to brace for an upcoming French attack he realized a couple things quite quickly his men
Speaker:were exhausted malnourished and he didn't have nearly enough fighting men to defend the flimsy
Speaker:fort you can almost say they were outgunned outmanned outnumbered outplanned yeah and well
Speaker:that's that's a prequel for his entire career yeah as a military commander I mean that was
Speaker:you just described the entire like American army he was used to being behind the eight ball but
Speaker:like the Spartan warriors of the bronze age George was convinced his 300 men could hold out against a
Speaker:much larger force despite the fact that shabby fort necessity was very badly placed it was too
Speaker:small and it was in a meadow surrounded by woods and higher ground oh ew yeah so George defends
Speaker:this the rest of his life like uh and I was not an idiot when I picked this spot for this fort
Speaker:but the truth is it was like the perfect place the worst spot to have a fort right you give the
Speaker:French yeah sharpshooters an elevated position where they can use trees as cover I don't know
Speaker:jack about shit but I know you want the high ground and again I know jack about shit when
Speaker:it comes to like any kind of hunting military even just wilderness granting the enemy a raised
Speaker:position to fire on you from cover isn't the best planning my 10 year old with a nerf gun can can
Speaker:strategize better so but George did once again his his pride forces him to defend this decision
Speaker:for the rest of his life he's lucky that he didn't have to defend that fort for the rest of
Speaker:his life well his life would have been short if he fought to the death so on the way the French
Speaker:forces found the the site of Jumonville Glen and the and the bodies just laying out there
Speaker:and were decidedly pissed off it probably didn't help that the commander of the French
Speaker:forces was Jumonville's older brother looking for some very personal payback yeah that tracks
Speaker:so I keep bringing up Hamilton but if you remember in the musical there's a line Washington
Speaker:does and I'll try to sing that line acapella he goes I was younger than you are now when I was
Speaker:given my first command I led my men straight into a massacre I witnessed their deaths firsthand
Speaker:this is what he was talking about this moment right here at Fort Necessity the colonial troops
Speaker:were already surrounded by constant gunfire when God decided to make things worse and a heavy rain
Speaker:began and this is back in the days when keeping your powder dry was like an actual thing you had
Speaker:to worry about so suddenly their muskets are completely useless went from bad to worse yep
Speaker:so ultimately just stupid and because the fort was so small and they had 300 guys they had to dig
Speaker:trenches all the way around and just position some guys just in the trenches so these guys
Speaker:were literally just getting shot at and they're there's like and they're filling up with mud
Speaker:and blood and then meanwhile because they couldn't fit any of the animals that they
Speaker:had with them as part of their you know a roving supplies they just were all left out in this open
Speaker:meadow so the French and natives just butchered all the horses cattle and dogs to deprive the
Speaker:colonials everything everything because so they're inside they're around they have like a little bit
Speaker:of flour and bacon left a hundred of the Virginians have already been killed by gunfire but if you
Speaker:want to know how bad it is one-sided the French suffered only three dead and 17 wounded so 20
Speaker:total casualties even though they're good job George good job so that night the French decided
Speaker:they signaled they would be willing to you know negotiate surrender like they knew they that the
Speaker:British were fucked inside fort necessity the Virginia militia men had had about enough of this
Speaker:so they busted out the room that was meant for Indian diplomacy and got shitfaced drunk as one
Speaker:does because they were all yeah you're either looking at death or imprisonment a third of them
Speaker:were already dead you're looking at starvation death they hadn't yeah there was there was there
Speaker:was nowhere for them to go but drunk they were out of food they were they couldn't even shoot
Speaker:their fucking guns they couldn't they couldn't even shoot themselves so we're getting fucked
Speaker:yep so so they had an epic death party so George realizes that his men basically just they were
Speaker:just getting trashed and so he had to wave the proverbial white flag which could have actually
Speaker:been a physical white flag oh yeah they did that back then but it wasn't it might not have even
Speaker:but in this point it still had to come like the sad part was like it still came from the French
Speaker:side first like hey do you guys want to surrender because we don't really want to kill all of you
Speaker:an interpreter went back and forth between the two sides uh George yeah uh the interpreter went
Speaker:back and forth between the two sides and the guy finally coming back with the with the terms
Speaker:written the all the terms of surrender written in French the ink running from the rain so when
Speaker:George signed the surrender agreement he didn't realize it included a confession for the
Speaker:assassination so he accidentally confessed he actually convinced he was accidentally confessed
Speaker:to the political assassination of a French diplomat you know in any other story this would be
Speaker:the sad end of George for being a political assassin so this naturally provided plenty
Speaker:of justification for further French support of the war was a total black eye on the diplomatic
Speaker:reputation of England who had treated George himself so honorably like like already the
Speaker:newspapers all over the world had learned about what George had done so if that wasn't bad enough
Speaker:they seized George's diary and passed it back to Governor General Duquesne oh that's terrible
Speaker:who made fun of Washington and then and then published the entire thing in Paris
Speaker:that's such a dick move I mean it's kind of glorious look at this asshole yeah so so this
Speaker:is a low point in George's career I was about to say I've never heard this so this is like so George
Speaker:so poor George was defeated having been humiliated George and his men are allowed to march back
Speaker:they're not taken as prisoners they're just ordered to leave and for necessities torn down
Speaker:George is defeated his reputation has been curb stomped and then his brother's Lawrence's last
Speaker:surviving child dies and George inherits Mount Vernon he resigns his commission in the Virginia
Speaker:militia and decides to set about preparing his first planting of tobacco and that's where we're
Speaker:going to end part one on young George Washington and the French and part one next time when we get
Speaker:together I'm going to tell you about George's third and final expedition in where he has to
Speaker:take a subservient role this time because now some things are going to get shaking the war is going
Speaker:to heat up the the British are going to decide they want to they're going to fund a much more
Speaker:aggressive campaign they're going to send in regular British troops the guy George wants to
Speaker:be part of that he wishes he was an officer of and unfortunately George is forced to serve under
Speaker:a very traditional stuffy British general named Braddock well I mean after being publicly
Speaker:humiliated to the entire world with the reading of one's diary so this is George's chance this is
Speaker:when he this is now salty George if he is he has to suck up his pride but if he wants to
Speaker:to salvage his military reputation he's got to go do this one more time and Braddock is one of
Speaker:these guys who thinks that you should like you fight like you do in the old country you you march
Speaker:your dudes in red coats and you put them in a field and you line them up all next to each other
Speaker:and you you signal that it's time to start shooting each other yeah that's dumb yeah the
Speaker:French don't fight that way in the colon you know in the American colonies so that's gonna go badly
Speaker:and uh and George is gonna have to be there to to pick up the pieces when it does oh George
Speaker:oh George yeah so then we'll we'll get on to what his and we'll talk about how all of the fallout
Speaker:from from all of this directly contributes to a bunch of pissed off Americans who decided to
Speaker:shake off a bunch of these colonists yeah and they're fucking taxes and they're bullshit
Speaker:yeah and even though we'll get into this too this is also interestingly a period where when
Speaker:this war heats up is the first time that there is a meeting between representatives from all
Speaker:13 colonies so it establishes this precedent so the idea is do we do we join together as colonies
Speaker:to support the war effort to fight the French because the colonies had all they were just all
Speaker:independent of each other they didn't other than some trade had nothing to do with each other up
Speaker:to this point so they came up with uh the the chief architect of what they called the Albany
Speaker:plan because it was done in Albany New York was none other than Benjamin Franklin and he published
Speaker:a very famous political cartoon of a snake in 13 segments and underneath it it says join or die
Speaker:which even though it didn't work the Albany plan was approved by the the little convention they
Speaker:called but the state not states yet but the colonies didn't approve it back home so it got
Speaker:rejected but it laid the groundwork and that slogan and even the image of a snake representing
Speaker:the colonies which will be used later in the revolution with the don't tread on me which is
Speaker:now used by douchebags okay so signing off i will just simply say if you want to follow me any of
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