Award-winning artist and Stage 4 non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma survivor Sandy Duarte opens up about how cancer disrupted every part of her life but ultimately became a profound teacher. She shares the raw, yet beautiful truth of her experience, from the shock of diagnosis to the transformation that followed.
Through deep reflection, Sandy shares how cancer became an awakening and reshaped what it truly means to be alive for her. The insights she gained, many of which are captured in her book (Cancer Ramblings), offer an invitation to live with presence, listen inward, and return to the heart of what matters.
We also explore Sandy’s unique perspective on healing, including the role sound played in her recovery.
With vulnerability and depth, Sandy reminds us that there is meaning and room for growth in all chapters of life.
Whether you are navigating cancer yourself, supporting a loved one, or simply seeking a more intentional way to live, Sandy’s story will leave you feeling grounded, hopeful, and deeply seen.
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About the Guests:
Sandy Duarte is a non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma Stage 4 survivor, award-winning actress, writer, yogi am and sound healer. She’s the author of The Cancer Ramblings and also the Program Director for the Global Sound Bath initiative. Sandy uses her voice and story to bring hope, connection, and meaning to others.
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About Our Host:
Darcie Champagne Wells is the President and CEO of CanCare, Inc., a nonprofit dedicated to providing support to the cancer community by pairing cancer patients with survivors. Since joining in November 2020 as the third President & CEO, Darcie has driven significant growth, increasing one-to-one support matches by 45% and healthcare referrals by 66%. In 2022, she initiated the Impact Acceleration Initiative to further expand support for cancer patients and caregivers. Her leadership has earned her recognition as a “Most Admired CEO” and “Woman Who Means Business” by the Houston Business Journal, and national “Fundraiser of the Year” by RAISE. Darcie holds a BS in Business Administration from Louisiana State University and an MBA from the University of Houston.
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Sandy, welcome to hope in the face of cancer,
Darcie Wells:where we share real stories of courageous people in their
Darcie Wells:cancer journey. Every once in a while, you meet someone whose
Darcie Wells:story stops you in your tracks, not because of the hardship
Darcie Wells:alone, but because of the way they chose to move through it.
Darcie Wells:Sandy Duarte is an award winning actress, writer, producer, Yogi
Darcie Wells:and now a sound healing practitioner. She's also a stage
Darcie Wells:four non Hodgkin's lymphoma survivor who empowers
Darcie Wells:individuals to find strength and community in their struggles to
Darcie Wells:find purpose through pain. Her book cancer ramblings from why
Darcie Wells:to why not, is a raw and reflective collection of
Darcie Wells:thoughts she wrote during treatment. It's a window into
Darcie Wells:the emotional, physical and spiritual experience of walking
Darcie Wells:through cancer and coming out transformed. In this
Darcie Wells:conversation, Sandy will share her experience of diagnosis,
Darcie Wells:healing, writing and discovering sound as a powerful tool for
Darcie Wells:healing. We're so grateful to welcome her to the podcast,
Darcie Wells:Sandy, thank you for being here and sharing your story with us
Darcie Wells:today. Oh my gosh, she
Sandy Duarte:made me emotional at that like I can't start
Sandy Duarte:crying now.
Darcie Wells:Darcy, well, and we had to cut out so much
Darcie Wells:because you've got such an amazing story. So you are
Darcie Wells:amazing, and we're so honored to have you.
Sandy Duarte:It's honestly, it's an honor Darcy and to speak
Sandy Duarte:with you and Julian earlier and thank you for having me. There's
Sandy Duarte:so many stories out there, so for making time for mine, I
Sandy Duarte:really appreciate it. Thank you.
Darcie Wells:Oh, I'm so excited for our audience to get to know
Darcie Wells:you and to explore your life. So I'd love to start with an
Darcie Wells:outlook. You know, before cancer, you've got, you're a
Darcie Wells:multi disciplinary artist. Tell us a little bit about just what
Darcie Wells:makes you tick in your passions, and so we can get to know you
Sandy Duarte:better. Oh my gosh. I've always had a passion
Sandy Duarte:for storytelling. So it kind of, you know, it's, it's got many
Sandy Duarte:tentacles when it comes to storytelling. You know,
Sandy Duarte:storytelling isn't linear. It comes in different shapes and
Sandy Duarte:forms. And so I started off very much like in the fashion
Sandy Duarte:industry, and then that was extended outside of me, and I
Sandy Duarte:thought, I want to do something more within me. And then started
Sandy Duarte:to get into acting, and did some theater and with an incredible
Sandy Duarte:team in Canada and an incredible playwright, and that got me a
Sandy Duarte:door Award, which is like the US, you know, the Tony Award,
Sandy Duarte:and that allowed to get to us, to immigrate here. And along the
Sandy Duarte:journey, I wanted to do more and deepen my something else that
Sandy Duarte:was just ticking within me, which was, you know, the the
Sandy Duarte:wellness arts. I love yoga. I love moving your body and and
Sandy Duarte:that was always a part of my life, because before you go on
Sandy Duarte:stage, you got to find that meditators, you know, you got to
Sandy Duarte:like it. And so it all came together. And I just kind of
Sandy Duarte:live my life where stay open to what speaks to you and that you
Sandy Duarte:don't necessarily have to drop one thing to be this thing. They
Sandy Duarte:can all coexist. It's all information on your journey of
Sandy Duarte:life. You know, business informs art. Art informs business. So I
Sandy Duarte:feel like nothing is a waste. And now I'm I'm really just, I
Sandy Duarte:label myself a creative and wellness artist, because that's
Sandy Duarte:kind of the world I'm in and and, yeah, that's me in a
Sandy Duarte:nutshell.
Darcie Wells:I love it. I love it, and I love how you just go
Darcie Wells:after new things with with such passion. So number of years ago,
Darcie Wells:some things started to change in your life, and you had a bit of
Darcie Wells:an awakening, maybe an unwelcome guest, you know, came to visit.
Darcie Wells:Tell us a little bit about that. How did you learn of your
Darcie Wells:diagnosis? Oh my
Sandy Duarte:gosh, it was. It's the class I never signed up for.
Sandy Duarte:Like, it's a way of being like, you're gonna this. This is this
Sandy Duarte:is this is your this, is it? This, was this what you got, you
Sandy Duarte:know? And the most powerful, transformative thing is when
Sandy Duarte:you're placed in a position where you have no choice but to
Sandy Duarte:walk through that fire, you know, there is no it's not
Sandy Duarte:comfortable. I'm going to go this way, right? It really it.
Sandy Duarte:When your choice is removed, you have one choice and how you
Sandy Duarte:choose to guide yourself through it. You can't change the
Sandy Duarte:circumstance too much, but you gotta go through it. I was
Sandy Duarte:really surprised. I was living before covid. I was doing a lot
Sandy Duarte:of the back and forth. So Canada, US, you know, Los
Sandy Duarte:Angeles, Toronto and so every time I came to the West Coast, I
Sandy Duarte:would get something bronchial, like a little something in my
Sandy Duarte:lungs. You know, it's a different climate, East Coast,
Sandy Duarte:right? It's very different. Someone told me, I'm like, Yeah,
Sandy Duarte:that makes so much sense. We forget we're on a plane, but
Sandy Duarte:just because we're on a plane and it's four hours doesn't
Sandy Duarte:mean, I mean there's, there's still so much drastic difference
Sandy Duarte:within the lens. And so I was used to kind of having that and
Sandy Duarte:just take antibiotics and. Anyways, 2023 I got back to Los
Sandy Duarte:Angeles, June, come about November, I start to get that
Sandy Duarte:feeling again. I thought, it's that. It's that time of year
Sandy Duarte:again, the winter in LA and so I didn't take it too serious. But
Sandy Duarte:my my health start to decline. A lot. Got worse and worse. I
Sandy Duarte:thought, Okay, this is not good. Got antibiotics. I thought, Man,
Sandy Duarte:I got really bad pneumonia or something. What's going on? And
Sandy Duarte:it just, I'm not one that rushes to the doctor. I'm not really.
Sandy Duarte:I'd like to see what my body does and give it a chance, but
Sandy Duarte:it really got bad. So by the time December came January,
Sandy Duarte:towards January, February, I couldn't even really teach
Sandy Duarte:anymore, because I was so gassed I had no ability, and I was
Sandy Duarte:getting really weak, so I was declining in my work. And I
Sandy Duarte:thought, This is not right. Something's not right here. I
Sandy Duarte:couldn't even move my car. I had a friend having to move the
Sandy Duarte:steering wheel. I remember that time like I need to go see a
Sandy Duarte:doctor now. Now my body's screaming at me, so my doctor
Sandy Duarte:has me go for an MRI. I'm still thinking it's pneumonia,
Sandy Duarte:bronchitis, a lung thing. And results come back. She gets, I
Sandy Duarte:get a call, and she's got that voice you hear in the movies.
Sandy Duarte:And this isn't something. She goes, they want to see you
Sandy Duarte:again. Okay, fine. I go back second. MRI, same thing. She
Sandy Duarte:calls me again. This is family doctor, primary. You know this
Sandy Duarte:stuff. She says, this is beyond me. She goes, You need to go to
Sandy Duarte:the hospital right now. You have a hot mess. And I'm like,
Sandy Duarte:really? I'm like, what? So I'm still thinking maybe it's like,
Sandy Duarte:I'm not thinking cancer at all, right? I'm thinking maybe it's
Sandy Duarte:just like a growth or something, whatever, you know. So anyway, I
Sandy Duarte:go to the hospital. I never left. They brought me in, and I
Sandy Duarte:thought I was going in for a biopsies, a quick in and out. I
Sandy Duarte:have no idea. I never left. I was two weeks in the most wild
Sandy Duarte:ride. It invasive. It, you know, invasive, because had to be
Sandy Duarte:biopsies. All eyes open and and I needed that window, because
Sandy Duarte:they were doing every test under the sun, and then they went,
Sandy Duarte:they did the biopsy, the thing through the chest, your eyes are
Sandy Duarte:open, and you have to wait several days because there's so
Sandy Duarte:many cancers out there. And then finally, two weeks later, I get
Sandy Duarte:the diagnosis. My oncologist walks in, one of a team many,
Sandy Duarte:and just says, Hey, you have cancer. And the first thing I
Sandy Duarte:said is, I dropped an F bomb. I'm like, what happened? Like,
Sandy Duarte:literally, I stared at him, like, are you? Wow, drops on
Sandy Duarte:you. That's and then the journey begins from there. So what
Sandy Duarte:happened was, the the mask that I had was a huge mass, like 10
Sandy Duarte:by 15 mats, it collapsed my left lung. That's why, that's why I
Sandy Duarte:had no lung, and that's why I had all these terrible symptoms
Sandy Duarte:and sweats and all the stuff and and so, yeah, it wasn't anything
Sandy Duarte:to do with bronchitis or pneumonia. Was cancer. It's a
Sandy Duarte:hard dish to be served out of the blue. When you've lived a
Sandy Duarte:healthy, life, you know, you take care of yourself, you check
Sandy Duarte:up, you check all the boxes for that stuff. But life has a way,
Sandy Duarte:you know, of showing you something else.
Darcie Wells:Yeah, surprise, right, yes. So what does
Darcie Wells:treatment look like for non Hodgkin's lymphoma? Ah, gosh.
Sandy Duarte:Well, you know, how do I say this while being
Sandy Duarte:sensitive to your viewers, cancer is rough. It's not sweet
Sandy Duarte:trip. But I have a friend who's married to a doctor, and so we
Sandy Duarte:were talking before that, he goes, let's hope that you have
Sandy Duarte:these three types of cancers. He's very straight up about it
Sandy Duarte:as a doctor is, I said, okay, because if they come back and
Sandy Duarte:you hear one of these three cancers, you kind of got the
Sandy Duarte:cancer lottery, you know what I mean. So if there was any other
Sandy Duarte:cancer, it would have been morbid, as my oncology team told
Sandy Duarte:me, because my it was really in the inside there, in the organs,
Sandy Duarte:the vital sleek. So when he came back and he says, You have
Sandy Duarte:lymphoma, I, you know, when they gave me the actual details
Sandy Duarte:outside of just the cancer, you know, just
Unknown:like I was, like, just they looked at me like I was
Unknown:crazy,
Sandy Duarte:because I knew that I was gonna I just knew
Sandy Duarte:deep down, I had a really fighting chance, because
Sandy Duarte:lymphoma is very receptive to chemotherapy and I wouldn't need
Sandy Duarte:surgery in my case. So my friend the doctor, kind of, you know,
Sandy Duarte:so I felt that positive hope from hearing Yes, the other who
Sandy Duarte:knows what my story would have been, yeah, who knows? I'm sure
Sandy Duarte:your
Darcie Wells:reaction was quite a surprise to your healthcare
Darcie Wells:team. Why is she excited? I he said
Sandy Duarte:it could have been anything else and not that, that
Sandy Duarte:my not that lymphoma, or those that are suffering through this.
Sandy Duarte:I mean, I have friends in my life who have lost people to my
Sandy Duarte:cancer. Sure, nothing's a given or a guarantee, but it's, it's
Sandy Duarte:the perspective of going, okay, there's a fighting Troy. Chance
Sandy Duarte:by understanding which dragon Are you slaying. You know?
Darcie Wells:Yeah, yeah. So it was obviously a shock to you.
Darcie Wells:You didn't expect to hear the word cancer in all of this. Now
Darcie Wells:you're at a place where you're hopeful and optimistic, because
Darcie Wells:you have some insights, uh, you know that this is fightable,
Darcie Wells:kind of what is your mindset at this stage of the game?
Sandy Duarte:Well, my mindset at first, let's say the first
Sandy Duarte:two days, 24 hours. You know, two days, it's, it's, you're
Sandy Duarte:living in the wondering. You know, the wondering is an abyss.
Sandy Duarte:It's a bottomless pit of why. And so, you know, eventually I
Sandy Duarte:had told my family, who's in Canada. I had my sister tell my
Sandy Duarte:parents, because it was a call I couldn't make, yeah, and it's
Sandy Duarte:not a call you want to receive as a parent. And my sister lives
Sandy Duarte:in my hometown and so, and she's in healthcare. She's very
Sandy Duarte:strong, and she has a mindset for handling these things very
Sandy Duarte:well. So she broke it to them. So after breaking it to them,
Sandy Duarte:and sitting in the wondering, in the why, and letting people ask
Sandy Duarte:me, Why, the nurses, why you do yoga? You're so healthy. How
Sandy Duarte:does this happen? My mom, why? You know, people asking, why?
Sandy Duarte:After a little mini moment of that, my mindset shifted, and I
Sandy Duarte:said, Enough, Wise. I'm not going to live in this abyss,
Sandy Duarte:this pit of why. I don't give a flying. I don't care about the
Sandy Duarte:why I'm going to go to why not? I swear I went. I don't care. My
Sandy Duarte:oncology team came and they were going to lay out the plan. And I
Sandy Duarte:had five members pulmonary, because my lung was out. So I
Sandy Duarte:was bringing back the life and of a gone lung and dealing with
Sandy Duarte:cancer. And I looked at them, and I said, Guys, I'm with the
Sandy Duarte:finest minds here, all of you, medical, wonderful hospital,
Sandy Duarte:UCLA minds, a mixed bag of great people. I said you are some of
Sandy Duarte:the brilliant, most brilliant minds in front of me. I don't
Sandy Duarte:need to know the details. I don't care about B to Y. Don't
Sandy Duarte:care you know. All I know is A to Z. I know what it is, and I
Sandy Duarte:know I'm walking out at the end. You guys take care of the
Sandy Duarte:middle. You feel it, and I'll take care of the end. So I
Sandy Duarte:shifted my mind to knowing I'm getting out of here. So you do
Sandy Duarte:the work, I do the work. Our work is different. It comes
Sandy Duarte:together. And then I didn't let anybody else ask me, Why
Sandy Duarte:anymore. There's no more. Why? Could it have been this? Could
Sandy Duarte:it have been that? Could it been a, you know, something toxic
Sandy Duarte:could have been undone with why, if you live too much in a why
Sandy Duarte:you can't find solutions? Your mind and your body can't repair
Sandy Duarte:itself to find solutions. So ask yourself, why not? Why not?
Darcie Wells:Me? What was that turning point? Because, you
Darcie Wells:know, you started out in this place, in a very different
Darcie Wells:place, and you kind of had that light bulb moment you flipped
Darcie Wells:the switch. What was the trigger for you changing your mindset?
Darcie Wells:And you just like, it's like, one day you just decided I'm
Darcie Wells:going to think about this differently.
Sandy Duarte:That's a hard question to answer. Darcy.
Sandy Duarte:That's what falls in the realm of unanswerable. Yeah. Like, you
Sandy Duarte:know intuition, whatever you believe in, in the Divine, in
Sandy Duarte:healthy nudges in, in knowing that I am the captain of my ship
Sandy Duarte:now and now, I have to navigate myself forward powerfully,
Sandy Duarte:because if I don't take charge of this, because the mind, to
Sandy Duarte:me, is much more challenging than cancer. My battle with
Sandy Duarte:cancer was one thing. No, I battle with the mind going
Sandy Duarte:through this journey. It's a whole other beast. And why I
Sandy Duarte:started to, divinely, start writing, and I had to have
Sandy Duarte:strong faith and meditation. I have a spot that I go to
Sandy Duarte:regularly. When I was discharged from my in betweens, I'd go to
Sandy Duarte:my meditation gardens and self realization by an incredible
Sandy Duarte:yogi, Paramahansa, Yogananda. I had to tap into nature, to the
Sandy Duarte:divine. I had to work with my cellular life. I had to keep my
Sandy Duarte:mind strong. Was it easy? Absolutely not. It was the most
Sandy Duarte:scary moments you want to cry. It's scary, but you have to
Sandy Duarte:carry yourself. You have to keep realizing I am the boss. I need
Sandy Duarte:to navigate this whole thing forward, you know? So I don't
Sandy Duarte:have an answer. It was really It happened in a moment where I
Sandy Duarte:knew, all right, let's do it. Time to get on. Yeah, because
Sandy Duarte:this isn't my story, I knew it wasn't my story. I said I'm not
Sandy Duarte:done yet. I have more borrowed time. I just knew it. And this
Sandy Duarte:isn't to say that. Listen, there's so many opposite
Sandy Duarte:endings. So I'm trying to be sensitive thought that sometimes
Sandy Duarte:it's not that way. Okay? But I had a choice. I see the door
Sandy Duarte:over there. How am I going to walk to that door? Am I going to
Sandy Duarte:walk and look around, enjoy the view, get to the door, put my
Sandy Duarte:hand on the doorknob, or am I going to crawl? Drag my knees,
Sandy Duarte:drag my and get to and then maybe I crawl up the door and
Sandy Duarte:maybe it opens, maybe it closes, whether that door opened or not,
Sandy Duarte:for my survival, I had a choice how I'm going to get there on
Sandy Duarte:this borrowed time. Yeah, so I had to choose to vibrate my
Sandy Duarte:highest light. That's the only way I can, I can tell you, yeah,
Sandy Duarte:it was a very important decision, and it's not easy for
Sandy Duarte:everybody, and we're all different personalities and
Sandy Duarte:mindsets, and that's why I'm sensitive to that, and that's
Sandy Duarte:why I wrote the book for myself in the hardest hours, but to
Sandy Duarte:help those that perhaps are a different type of person
Darcie Wells:than me, you know? Yeah, absolutely. So this book
Darcie Wells:called cancer ramblings, I love the title, thank you. Really
Darcie Wells:started out as your personal journal right during
Darcie Wells:chemotherapy. Tell us a little bit more about that.
Sandy Duarte:I love telling the story a lot of people and
Sandy Duarte:friends are telling me, is it probably you've interviewed so
Sandy Duarte:many people. Darcy, probably, you know, it's spoken to a lot
Sandy Duarte:of people who write, you know, during so there's nothing you
Sandy Duarte:know revolutionary about what I'm doing. But I had a lot of
Sandy Duarte:people tell me, you should write. You should, you know what
Sandy Duarte:I'm like, I don't want to write about it. Who needs another
Sandy Duarte:cancer book? Who needs another cancer story? There's so many
Sandy Duarte:cancer stories, and I'm not a writer. And so, yeah, I didn't,
Sandy Duarte:I didn't care to do that. The only writing I did was like my
Sandy Duarte:affirmations and the rituals that I did for my own mind and
Sandy Duarte:stuff. Anyways, one day, I'm going for a walk, as I do, to
Sandy Duarte:get my steps in my floor, my fifth floor, and I take my chemo
Sandy Duarte:friend. She's got the nice shoes, the wheels, she's going
Sandy Duarte:with me, and we get our steps, you know, the nurses know. There
Sandy Duarte:she goes, the speed runner, you know. And and I started getting
Sandy Duarte:these downloads, these these downloads, these nudges, these
Sandy Duarte:titles coming. And I'm arguing with whoever you want to meet
Sandy Duarte:with, whether it's the divine, whether with yourself. And I'm
Sandy Duarte:like, No, I'm not writing a book. What? Like, you know? I'm
Sandy Duarte:like, no, like, you know. And then titles, and then terrible
Sandy Duarte:titles, no. And if I'm going to write a book, not that title,
Sandy Duarte:like, that's what. And it was like this thing in my head, if
Sandy Duarte:you can imagine. And then finally, cancer ramblings
Sandy Duarte:landed, and I went, huh, we're writing a book.
Darcie Wells:Wow. So
Sandy Duarte:cancer ramblings was the permission started with
Sandy Duarte:the title and the inception of the cover, because it gave me
Sandy Duarte:permission to be sloppy, to not have to fall into, let's say, a
Sandy Duarte:proper box of what a writer is, or writer knows it gave me to
Sandy Duarte:permission to be messy, honest and to just write so so it's
Sandy Duarte:like the nudge said, Here you go. Permission granted, and that
Sandy Duarte:inspired me. And then I just would write. I would write in
Sandy Duarte:the darkest hours. I would write in the weakest times, the
Sandy Duarte:strongest times. I just put it out there. So it was done in
Sandy Duarte:real time from the beginning until I hear the word that I'm
Sandy Duarte:doing okay in that first sign when you step into remission.
Sandy Duarte:That's the story of that book. Yeah. And I look back and I
Sandy Duarte:still read it, I still grab it because I need reminders now and
Sandy Duarte:then I go, wow. Sometimes you don't even realize the person
Sandy Duarte:who wrote the book, because we're different versions of
Sandy Duarte:ourself in this life, you know? And if you stay open to every
Sandy Duarte:sort of experience of life, good or bad, you're going to be
Sandy Duarte:surprised looking back, right where would we be without these
Sandy Duarte:hardships? So I look back and that cancer year was the
Sandy Duarte:greatest gift to me. I don't know where I would be right now,
Sandy Duarte:as an artist, a human if I was in deepened by that gift. You
Sandy Duarte:know, my father hates it when I say that, but I swear to you
Sandy Duarte:that I cherish cancer as this relationship I had that had to
Sandy Duarte:leave, but it granted me the most incredible teaching. The
Sandy Duarte:teacher of pain served me very
Darcie Wells:well. You know,
Sandy Duarte:yeah, I danced with her. I allowed her a little
Sandy Duarte:bit, but then she had to go. We had to part ways, you know.
Sandy Duarte:Yeah, so, how
Darcie Wells:did it change you?
Sandy Duarte:Ah, you have
Darcie Wells:no it's real. I appreciate that. I
Sandy Duarte:don't think I'll ever stop crying about my
Sandy Duarte:teacher cancer. She's incredible. Any pain can be a
Sandy Duarte:great source of teaching. Doesn't have to be. Cancer could
Sandy Duarte:be anything, any sort of. Boss can teach you, if you lean into
Sandy Duarte:the teaching and lean less into the emotional state and judgment
Sandy Duarte:of it. Um, cancer, she taught me how to see life more, even more
Sandy Duarte:macro. So the little things that I like to call, and I have a
Sandy Duarte:friend calls it, I love it, like the nonsense, you know, just
Sandy Duarte:kind of fades away more you, you and I'm still a work in
Sandy Duarte:progress. We never, kind of get there. It's, it's constantly
Sandy Duarte:neat. It's a constant state of Growth. You know, we never stop
Sandy Duarte:till the end, if we're alive right till the end. That
Sandy Duarte:sentence makes sense, but it really deepened my, my ability
Sandy Duarte:to see life more macro. So the it puts you in a much more
Sandy Duarte:forgiving state of being for self and for others, and it
Sandy Duarte:gives you such great compassion for your own temple. And it
Sandy Duarte:deepened a lot of self, love and and time with yourself. You you
Sandy Duarte:extend it to others in a different way, and it gave me a
Sandy Duarte:lot of compassion, not that I was missing any of those things
Sandy Duarte:before, but it deepens you in a different way. Yeah. And I'm
Sandy Duarte:still working towards, you know, living a life with emotion but
Sandy Duarte:detachment, being more okay with the with the with the subtle and
Sandy Duarte:sometimes not so subtle, nuances of change. Does that make sense?
Sandy Duarte:Yeah, yeah. It you realize cancer shows you if, if you're
Sandy Duarte:if you can survive it that Wow. When something happens that
Sandy Duarte:challenges you, you realize, wow, but I did that surprise.
Sandy Duarte:He's in perspective. What am I afraid of? What am I afraid of?
Sandy Duarte:Something happens a person a place to say, what am I really?
Sandy Duarte:I'm afraid of that. So it gives you the power of perspective,
Sandy Duarte:truly, yeah,
Darcie Wells:what do you hope that someone picking up your
Darcie Wells:your book and reading your most intimate groans in that time?
Darcie Wells:What do you hope that they get from that experience?
Sandy Duarte:It really boils down to love. Yeah, anytime I
Sandy Duarte:wrote, it was like writing to the light, and as long as I knew
Sandy Duarte:I could see the face, the light of love, I'd be okay, even
Sandy Duarte:through the that pit where it was so bad sometimes and so
Sandy Duarte:scary. If I could see that little palm, those fingertips in
Sandy Duarte:the dark trying to kind of take me up. I knew I'd be okay. And
Sandy Duarte:so a lot of times it's it's the trusting in whatever you
Sandy Duarte:believe. You know, I'm a spiritual person. I'm not
Sandy Duarte:religious. I pray. I believe in the power of prayer and and love
Sandy Duarte:and light and the divine and God, whatever you want to call
Sandy Duarte:don't get hung up on the titles. Feel it from your heart space
Sandy Duarte:that if somebody can walk away feeling, wow, I'm held, I am I'm
Sandy Duarte:okay, love Scott me, then I did so it it transcends cancer into
Sandy Duarte:a sphere of love. So if you can just walk away knowing you are
Sandy Duarte:loved, then you can light your path and go forward.
Darcie Wells:That's beautiful. I think it it also gives
Darcie Wells:permission for people to feel and be honest with their
Darcie Wells:feelings. Me seeing and reading the rawness the intimacy of what
Darcie Wells:you've shared in your book, I think it gives others that
Darcie Wells:permission to feel, to express, to hurt and to know they're not
Darcie Wells:alone, and to see from from that pain and anguish you experience,
Darcie Wells:look at what has come from that, you know, look at the healing,
Darcie Wells:the maturity, just the deeper sense of purpose and meaning of
Darcie Wells:life, you know, that you have garnered from that experience
Darcie Wells:really comes through and in Your ramblings, as you call them,
Sandy Duarte:I mean it the You remind me of a line from my
Sandy Duarte:book. And I, I always have my my certain passages that are that I
Sandy Duarte:keep you know available as a reference for myself. And I
Sandy Duarte:don't know if I can read you a little, a little, please, I'd
Sandy Duarte:love that. And it's towards the end, and it's, it's rambling
Sandy Duarte:106, and it's called, when it drops down deep. I'll get to the
Sandy Duarte:tail end. Oh, it's hard to read you over. It's when it drops
Sandy Duarte:down deep. You feel yourself in an endless ocean of love, when
Sandy Duarte:you feel. It deeply you fall into this knowing that can't be
Sandy Duarte:explained just felt all the rushing and doing become a not
Sandy Duarte:doing dance in the eternal space of life. What matters now breath
Sandy Duarte:and honoring its generosity in your living, in your loving. So
Sandy Duarte:cheers to life, and that's what I feel about it. Thank you for
Sandy Duarte:your words. So my my job is to honor my life by loving. DP,
Sandy Duarte:deeper, deep earth, deeply.
Darcie Wells:Yeah, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. One
Darcie Wells:of the things that I understand was a key part of your healing
Darcie Wells:that I would love to explore with you is sound healing. And
Darcie Wells:this is really something that and to me, was a little a bit
Darcie Wells:new of our concepts. So I'd love for you to educate our audience
Darcie Wells:a little bit. First, how did you come to explore this and kind
Darcie Wells:of, how did you use that in your healing journey?
Sandy Duarte:Oh, my gosh. Well, you know, a few years ago, I got
Sandy Duarte:certified in yoga and chanting sound all the things I went for
Sandy Duarte:an intensive almost month long, at a place called yandara. And
Sandy Duarte:so I got, I got touched by the yoga and the sound and all the
Sandy Duarte:stuff and the curtain and all that. Fast forward to cancer,
Sandy Duarte:and I'm midway through, and I get another one of those weird
Sandy Duarte:nudges of, you know, telling me I need to get the crystal bowls,
Sandy Duarte:and I'm like, What? What you know? And I'm not in a place to
Sandy Duarte:spend money, as you your your viewers, going through cancer,
Sandy Duarte:whatever. Know, you know, I was unemployed for for 2024, and and
Sandy Duarte:living off my savings and and fighting cancer. What am I going
Sandy Duarte:to do? You know? You know, spend money now the bolts. So I had an
Sandy Duarte:argument, again, with the divine, with whoever, and then I
Sandy Duarte:finally gave in like the book, and they said, Fine, I'm going
Sandy Duarte:to buy the bolts, and I'm going to justify it. It's a gift to
Sandy Duarte:myself, because I'm almost done my chemo around, so towards the
Sandy Duarte:end, now it's going to be a gift. So when I get home, Amazon
Sandy Duarte:delivery, I have bowls and I can get along. And my next round, in
Sandy Duarte:between my chemo, I get to open the boxes and just be a kid.
Sandy Duarte:Fine. So anyway, one thing leads into another, and I start
Sandy Duarte:playing and through my cancer and learning and researching and
Sandy Duarte:getting certified and all that stuff and finding research that
Sandy Duarte:you know, sound bathing with the bowls, the vibrations, the
Sandy Duarte:sounds, actually make your cells more receptive to chemotherapy.
Sandy Duarte:So it's vibration is ancient. It's nothing that, you know,
Sandy Duarte:I've made up, and there's geniuses that can talk about it
Sandy Duarte:way better than I can. But I just have this affinity, this
Sandy Duarte:love, and I start to play as I play, and I one thing led to
Sandy Duarte:another. Right out of chemotherapy, I started bringing
Sandy Duarte:it back into my the studios that I was teaching at before cancer,
Sandy Duarte:and people were inviting me out and hearing about my sound. And
Sandy Duarte:I don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong, I just play from
Sandy Duarte:my heart. Yeah. And and then fast forward. Things develop,
Sandy Duarte:develop, develop. And you know, you meet people like divine
Sandy Duarte:timing along your your journey, I come across an incredible
Sandy Duarte:woman, Melissa Rosen, and she experiences my sound bath one
Sandy Duarte:day and and was very complimentary. And her and I
Sandy Duarte:became fast friends. She comes up with this vision for the
Sandy Duarte:global sound bath. And she has a good friend who's ran yoga Expo
Sandy Duarte:for 12 years, another fine mind and wellness and and technology,
Sandy Duarte:Sandra trioli and them to approach me, say they want to
Sandy Duarte:talk to me. I really thought, you know, maybe they want to
Sandy Duarte:invite me to just play some balls. Yeah. Well, no, they,
Sandy Duarte:they not only invite me, they've offered me the role of sound
Sandy Duarte:curator and program director on this huge initiative called
Sandy Duarte:Global sound bath, where we're debuting in Miami in December.
Sandy Duarte:And it's going to be this hugely quantifiable, scientific,
Sandy Duarte:artistic healing expression, where it's going to be at four
Sandy Duarte:days of sound and wellness. And so, you know, from the seed of
Sandy Duarte:of the the hospital walls and listening to the nudge sound has
Sandy Duarte:come into my life like a full circle of expression. So I'm
Sandy Duarte:bringing my theatrical background and my my wellness
Sandy Duarte:into this world of expression. And I'm really deeply honored
Sandy Duarte:that they would entrust me. So it's global sound bath.com and
Sandy Duarte:we're welcoming people, I mean, to come buy a ticket, get on the
Sandy Duarte:wait list. Come join or if you're a practitioner and you
Sandy Duarte:are love sound, you know, join us. Check it out. But that's my
Sandy Duarte:long journey, and it's I look at my bold Darcy, and I just, I
Sandy Duarte:hope. Told them, they've opened a whole world. For me, they're
Sandy Duarte:deeply healing on the mind, the cells, everything, and when
Sandy Duarte:people walk away from my sessions, the most incredible
Sandy Duarte:thing is when people like, Wow, thank you. I feel so loved. Or I
Sandy Duarte:feel like I was stuck on something and I got the answer,
Sandy Duarte:you know, like I had a student tell me I she was stuck on a how
Sandy Duarte:to edit a film for a long time. She took my session, my class,
Sandy Duarte:she walked away. She found the answer to her film. I got a
Sandy Duarte:credit in the end of it. So basically, the power of sound to
Sandy Duarte:connect you into a deeper love and to open your mind to come
Sandy Duarte:into the macro sphere, you know. So, yeah, sound is a very
Sandy Duarte:powerful thing, and I'm happy to to expand upon it, you know. And
Sandy Duarte:this, this evolution of my life.
Darcie Wells:No, that's incredible. And, and it was part
Darcie Wells:of your healing journey as well,
Sandy Duarte:absolutely, during chemotherapy, right after, and
Sandy Duarte:just doing it, just just just serving it.
Darcie Wells:Yeah, I know for everyone's cancer journey is so
Darcie Wells:individual, but I think something that I can, you know,
Darcie Wells:really extract from our conversation today, and for you,
Darcie Wells:sound was a huge role, but it's just finding that outlet you
Darcie Wells:know that that can give you peace and perspective and
Darcie Wells:something that you can pour into that is healing for you,
Darcie Wells:whatever that might be, because it's different for different
Darcie Wells:people. But I think that's really encouraging
Sandy Duarte:to explore yes and
Darcie Wells:to be open to the nudges, to be open doors to and
Darcie Wells:I love
Sandy Duarte:that you say that because listen and sound doesn't
Sandy Duarte:have to be one way either. Just like cancer isn't one way,
Sandy Duarte:healing, mourning. There's no one way. There's your way, you
Sandy Duarte:know, and then you can expand on your way by being open to other
Sandy Duarte:people's guidance and modalities and the wisdom of the world. But
Sandy Duarte:one thing that helped me as well, coming back to the power
Sandy Duarte:of sound, is what music makes you feel good. You know so many
Sandy Duarte:times, you know in the moments that I didn't have my bolts. I
Sandy Duarte:would literally have my phone, you know, and I would be walking
Sandy Duarte:with my chemo friend, and I'd have the music, not on my
Sandy Duarte:earbuds, but actually playing. I'd have, I was very into
Sandy Duarte:reggae, like, really, like Bob Marley and all sorts of reggae.
Sandy Duarte:I don't even know the names. I was the reggae girl, like, and
Sandy Duarte:and Julio Iglesias completely. Full of and I would go, they
Sandy Duarte:know, there she goes. And and what was nice is I would see
Sandy Duarte:people in the rooms, cancer patients at different stages, so
Sandy Duarte:people can't get out of their bed. They'd look over, they'd
Sandy Duarte:I'd see the big smile. There she goes again. Because as I come
Sandy Duarte:the sound
Unknown:comes the music. What a blessing, you know. And I was
Unknown:like, and
Sandy Duarte:I knew, in a way, it was my way of championing
Sandy Duarte:changing the vibration, the sound of the energy of the
Sandy Duarte:space. Whether you like reggae or not, you feel uplifted. There
Sandy Duarte:she goes. And I knew it was for me and it was for those in the
Sandy Duarte:room. You know, no one ever looked irritated. They were
Sandy Duarte:happy to feel the song. And so whatever you do, you can raise
Sandy Duarte:your vibrations in many ways, and sometimes it's just that by
Sandy Duarte:played music. Maybe it's the background jazz, maybe you can
Sandy Duarte:change the atmosphere of your hospital bed, you know, with
Sandy Duarte:music, yeah.
Darcie Wells:Oh, that's great. I love that. I know you have a
Darcie Wells:lot of work to do, and are so looking forward to this platform
Darcie Wells:in December. But what else is on Sandy's horizon? You know,
Darcie Wells:what's I mean, you've done so many amazing things, like, what
Darcie Wells:are you looking for? What are you dreaming for next?
Sandy Duarte:You know, it's funny, people have asked me
Sandy Duarte:that, and what I'm dreaming for is exactly right here. I just
Sandy Duarte:wore of this. There is no there or that. It's life is pretty
Sandy Duarte:damn beautiful. Now I want to freeze frame it. I'm doing
Sandy Duarte:everything I love. You know what I mean? I I've started writing
Sandy Duarte:my second book, yeah, it's a slower process, because it just
Sandy Duarte:is. It's, you know, death has a sense of urgency, you know what
Sandy Duarte:I mean, and life has a sense of slowness. You linger in love,
Sandy Duarte:right? And in death, there's that urgency to churn things
Sandy Duarte:out. I don't know how I wrote so fast. Everything that I did in
Sandy Duarte:that book was me in a keyboard, just writing, no support. So I'm
Sandy Duarte:enjoying the slow journey of love on this chapter, this
Sandy Duarte:second book. So I'm writing my next book. Oh, there's a
Sandy Duarte:hummingbird at my window.
Darcie Wells:Yeah. That's beautiful.
Sandy Duarte:And I'm just looking forward to doing more of
Sandy Duarte:what I'm doing now, and and seeing where this gorgeous
Sandy Duarte:initiative with global sound bath goes, you know, because we
Sandy Duarte:have a vision to really take this globally, you know, to
Sandy Duarte:different cities, and to keep writing and to keep spreading
Sandy Duarte:love, to keep living a healthy life, to keep finding joy. The
Sandy Duarte:one thing I do have to look that I have on my 2026 to do. It's my
Sandy Duarte:only one thing, because I'm so happy in the now it's 2026 I see
Sandy Duarte:a little dog in my future. Oh, I see myself rescuing a dog. But
Sandy Duarte:other than that, I'm so I'm just happy to let life unfold as it
Sandy Duarte:should, and to trust the process. You know, there's a lot
Sandy Duarte:of suffering if we desire so much we lose in the moment, you
Sandy Duarte:know. So, yes, be I love to look forward. There are things to
Sandy Duarte:look forward, but they're balanced in the now. So, yeah,
Sandy Duarte:just want to keep creating. Darcy. You're spreading love
Sandy Duarte:light, through wellness, through yoga, through sound, through the
Sandy Duarte:arts, through my book. I want it to really, this is my book. So
Sandy Duarte:beautiful. I want it to keep touching people's lives. You
Sandy Duarte:know, it makes me so happy. So seeing how, seeing how the
Sandy Duarte:wheels churn and move, that is a joy to see the momentum of of
Sandy Duarte:life and the seed sprout, then stay open to whatever is next.
Sandy Duarte:You can't really predict too much. There's only so much you
Sandy Duarte:can predict.
Darcie Wells:And I really appreciate you you talking
Darcie Wells:about, you know, not looking forward so much and just
Darcie Wells:relishing in in the moment and in the present. I hear that a
Darcie Wells:lot from cancer survivors that it just it makes the sky bluer
Darcie Wells:and sound richer and relationships deeper. And so
Darcie Wells:many people say they didn't truly know what living in the
Darcie Wells:moment and living in the present meant, until cancer.
Sandy Duarte:Yeah, it's true. And, again, it's balance. You
Sandy Duarte:have to have something to work towards. You know, the momentum
Sandy Duarte:is required, because we all need purpose, right? Something to
Sandy Duarte:wake up to. So when you find that thing or things that you
Sandy Duarte:enjoy, wow, I get to wake up and do this, it keeps you going
Sandy Duarte:forward, because you have a beautiful vision of more of what
Sandy Duarte:you have now forward. Yes, right, but I'm not lacking in
Sandy Duarte:anything that I have to see forward for it to give me. I
Sandy Duarte:just want to continue expanding what I have now and grow it big
Sandy Duarte:forward. You know, that's what I mean. So keep the vision on the
Sandy Duarte:forward. You know, envisioning is a powerful practice, and I
Sandy Duarte:wrote about it in my book, and it's one of the key things that
Sandy Duarte:got me out. I had two visions, and one of which, when they gave
Sandy Duarte:me the early diagnosis, I saw myself running on the beach,
Sandy Duarte:healthy running. That's what I saw. So you have to have a
Sandy Duarte:beautiful vision of your life, but it has to come from a
Sandy Duarte:balanced sweetness of I'm happy where I am now. There's nothing
Sandy Duarte:lacking, and it's in and it removes the suffering, you know,
Sandy Duarte:yeah, and listen, I'm not perfect. I get moments, and then
Sandy Duarte:you realize that what's going on, get back into the now.
Sandy Duarte:Realize that every you are so abundant right now, ask
Sandy Duarte:yourself, I love Michael Beckwith has a powerful,
Sandy Duarte:transformative question, and it's as simple as this, how can
Sandy Duarte:it get better than this? How you ask the universe several times a
Sandy Duarte:day something good happens? How can I ask right now, I'm sitting
Sandy Duarte:with Darcy, okay, I'm sitting with you. How can it get better
Sandy Duarte:than this? How the universe goes gonna give you more of what
Sandy Duarte:you're enjoying right now, right? That's beautiful, yeah.
Sandy Duarte:So it's a real joy. So I'm open, open to to all of it that you
Sandy Duarte:know is an alignment.
Darcie Wells:So for those who maybe listening to us right now,
Darcie Wells:who are facing their own diagnosis, what would you want
Darcie Wells:to say directly to them?
Sandy Duarte:I just want to say to you that you are loved and
Sandy Duarte:that just keep leaning on love, because it's not easy and it's
Sandy Duarte:scary and it's hard, but just keep leaning on love. And
Sandy Duarte:sometimes it's as simple as repeating the word love. So it's
Sandy Duarte:a thing called love chance that I write about. And there was
Sandy Duarte:some dark pockets of of the the journey, where there were no
Sandy Duarte:words or sentences to string except love. So we're just in
Sandy Duarte:the middle of the night when you're hit with a paralyzing
Sandy Duarte:fear of rebuilding your life. Well, how am I going to start
Sandy Duarte:over like you just repeat love? Feel it in here. So sometimes
Sandy Duarte:it's it's as simple as love, love, love, love, love. Yeah,
Sandy Duarte:and that repetition starts to diminish all the other fear
Sandy Duarte:seeds and stuff. And then you feel good. Then guess what? It
Sandy Duarte:comes back the mind brings you back that fear and that stuff
Sandy Duarte:you're feeling in the moment, which is legit. Come back to
Sandy Duarte:love, love, love. Keep leaning on love and keep some good books
Sandy Duarte:us of strength close by, and, my gosh, spend as much time as you
Sandy Duarte:can in nature and know that you're not alone. You know,
Sandy Duarte:yeah, you are not alone. And I want to say a lot of things to
Sandy Duarte:you guys, you know, going through it, I want to say a lot,
Sandy Duarte:but I want to say, envision yourself. What is the vision of
Sandy Duarte:yourself? My vision was me running on the beach, and then
Sandy Duarte:the other day, I was running on the beach yourself in your
Sandy Duarte:healthiest state, so you can support your healing as well
Sandy Duarte:with the beautiful marriage of science and medicine. So But
Sandy Duarte:love is a powerful transformer, that word love really helped me
Sandy Duarte:through the pockets, or you're just alone in your bed, and it
Sandy Duarte:sucks.
Darcie Wells:Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for that Sandy.
Darcie Wells:Thank you for for your just the intimacy of sharing your story
Darcie Wells:and your message of hope. Today. Can't wait to dig into your book
Darcie Wells:and encourage others to to do that as well and and thank you
Darcie Wells:all for joining us for this episode of hope in the face of
Darcie Wells:cancer. If you or someone you love is facing cancer, CanCare
Darcie Wells:is here to support you. Visit us@cancare.org to learn more
Darcie Wells:until next time, remember there is always hope in the face of
Darcie Wells:cancer.