Introduction: What are you watching on TV?

• Doula work and TV shows. 0:26
• Denise Bolds shares her TV viewing habits, mentioning she's in a doctoral program.
• Denise and Ravae discuss Black Cake, a Hulu series based on a book, with a focus on Black storytelling and family history.
• Ravae and Denise discuss TV shows, including "Gilded Age" and "Queen Charlotte," and share their thoughts on the episodes they've watched.

Doula Skills

• Intellectual Property Protection. 5:06
• Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of registering intellectual property with the US Copyright Office.
• Copyright protection for creative work.
• Ravae Sinclair explains the importance of copyrighting original work to protect it from being stolen or misused.
• Filing a copyright with the US Copyright Office can provide an automatic judgment against someone who infringes on your work, without the need for a court case.
• Ravae Sinclair shares her experience of having her work stolen and sold by another birth worker, emphasizing the importance of respecting peers' intellectual property.
• Ravae helps a client create a contract using a template from Ravae's website, but the client admits to piecing it together from multiple sources, including Ravae's original template that was found on Google.
• Protecting intellectual property through copyright registration. 12:30
• Ravae Sinclair emphasizes the importance of protecting intellectual property through copyright registration, citing her own experience with someone using her language without permission.
• Denise Bolds agrees, noting that people often infringe on intellectual property without realizing it, and emphasizes the need to take action to protect oneself.
• Ravae Sinclair describes feeling violated after discovering someone had used her copyrighted material without permission.
• Denise Bolds empathizes with Sinclair's emotions, likening the experience to someone taking her own creative work without permission.
• Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds discuss the issue of intellectual property theft in the birth work industry, with Ravae sharing knowledge of a birth worker's website being copied by a competitor.
• Denise Bolds mentions a birth worker who stole another woman's intellectual property, and Ravae refuses to promote the organization due to ethical concerns.

Doula Skill

• How to identify a quality doula trainer and community support. 18:54
• Doula trainers must be held accountable for quality training, says Denise Bolds.
• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the importance of choosing a doula trainer with hands-on experience in the birth room during COVID-19.
• They highlight the lack of practical knowledge among some doula trainers who have not supported a birth in years and cannot provide up-to-date training.
• Doula trainers must provide ongoing support and community connections to be effective.
• Doula training and postpartum care during the pandemic. 20:36
• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the limitations of doula trainers who are disconnected from their communities and lack knowledge of current policies and changes in the industry.
• Doulas need trainers who are plugged in and connected to their communities to provide support and understand the new challenges of doing business during the pandemic.
• Ravae Sinclair and Denise Bolds share their experiences as doulas during the pandemic, highlighting the importance of trainers having practical experience in the field.
• They emphasize the need for trainers to understand the realities of doula work, including managing communicable diseases and supporting families during the pandemic.

Trending in Birth Work

·     Okra Water. 29.03

• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the trend of drinking okra water for a one-push birth, with mixed opinions.
• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the use of okra water for one-push births, with Denise expressing skepticism and Ravae sharing a lighthearted trend.
• Black midwife's struggles in Alabama. 32.24
• Denise Bolds shares a sobering trend from an unnamed midwife in Alabama, highlighting the challenges of providing midwifery care in a harsh environment.
• Denise Bolds shares her frustration with the resistance faced by a black midwife in Alabama, who is fighting to enhance the black birth experience despite an uphill battle.
• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the challenges faced by Black people in building their own spaces, such as the Black Wall Street, and how they are often met with resistance from white people.
• Challenges faced by black midwife in Alabama. 36.33
• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss the challenges faced by midwife Stephanie, including legislative obstacles and racial discrimination.
• The two highlight the resilience of Stephanie and her supporters in the face of adversity, with Denise stating that "this is the history of this country" and Ravae adding that "they went back and pulled legislation to make it more difficult."
• Ravae Sinclair discusses the challenges of fighting for birth center legislation and the importance of paying attention to the reasons behind the resistance.
• Denise Bolds adds that the battle is systemic and designed to control birth, and Ravae agrees that dismantling these systems is crucial for the well-being of women and children.

Good Birth Worker News

• Birth work, music, and life. 42.11
• Denise Bolds finds solace in Andre 3000's new album during a difficult week.
• Denise Bolds and Ravae Sinclair discuss Andre 3000’s new album, with Denise praising his creativity and Ravae mentioning mixed reviews.
• The hosts applaud Andre 3000 for stepping out of his comfort zone and doing something that brings him joy, despite criticism from some fans.

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Ravae Sinclair @birthconnections and natlbirthpostpartumpros

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