The time a person waits for their home care package depends on what level of package a person is approved for and what priority they are given by the aged care assessment team (ACAT).
Coral discusses the different priority levels, and the difference between approval and assignment of the home care package. She talks about how long the wait times are for the various package levels.
Learn about what to do if the older person’s needs increase while they are waiting for their home care package to be assigned.
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:How long do I wait for
my home care package?
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:The time it takes for a person to
be assigned their home care package
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:from approval with the aged care
assessment team is determined at the
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:conclusion of the ACAT assessment.
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:People enter the National Priority
System, otherwise known as the
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:Q, And we'll wait the months it
takes as determined by the ACAT.
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:But if a person's needs change and
they become more dependent during
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:that time, it is possible to shorten
the length of time waiting and
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:have the package assigned sooner.
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:Coral, to lead into this
discussion, tell us how a person is
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:approved for a home care package.
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:Coral: The aged care assessment
teams or ACATs approve for
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:home care packages shell.
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:To ACAT, a person needs to enter the aged
care system via My Aged Care, be screened
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:by My Aged Care as to their needs, which
is how much support they currently need,
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:and if there is any informal support such
as family support available currently.
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:Based on the amount of information you
provide My Aged Care, you'll progress
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:to an assessment with the Regional
Assessment Service, or the RAS,
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:which is the Entry Level Assessment
Workforce, or you might go directly
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:to the ACAT, which is where you'll
be assessed for a home care package.
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:Michelle: So at the end of the
ACAT assessment, the ACAT assessor
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:decides what level of package the
person will be approved for, as
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:well as the time the person will
wait to be assigned their package.
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:Coral: That's right, you'll Again,
reflecting on the amount of information,
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:the detail with which you provide the
ACAT assessor, the level of home care
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:package is decided as well as the priority
level, meaning how long a person will
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:wait before their package is assigned.
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:There are four levels of home care
packages ranging from level one, which
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:is basic or low needs to a level four
package, which would reflect a person
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:who requires significant support.
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:And significant support Looks like help
with showering, transport assistance
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:assistance with domestic tasks around
the house, social support assistance
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:with mobility and, maybe help toileting
or management of continence as well.
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:So , quite high care needs.
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:Essentially a level four package
is approved for people who would
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:not otherwise be able to manage at
home without that level of support.
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:The wait time is also decided at the
conclusion of the ACAT assessment.
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:ACATs will approve people as
a low priority, or a medium
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:priority, or a high priority.
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:Most people are approved at a medium
priority, but some people who need
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:that support sooner rather than later
would be approved as a high priority.
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:What this means is that a high
priority approval will allow
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:you a reduced wait time to be
assigned your home care package.
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:So you'll enter that national priority
system or that queue closer to the
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:front of the queue, meaning that you
won't wait as long as someone who
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:has been approved at medium priority.
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:Yeah,
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:Michelle: Right.
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:Okay.
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:And look, we do see a lot of
confusion about being approved
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:and then assigned the package.
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:So we should probably
clarify this for listeners.
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:Coral: we should, Shel.
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:And that's right.
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:So after the ACAT assessment is
completed, the person will receive
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:their approval documents in the mail.
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:So these documents detail both
the level of home care package,
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:that the ACAT has approved the
person for and the priority level.
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:These are purely a summary
of the assessment process.
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:But people get confused and
they think these documents are
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:the assignment of the package.
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:They're not.
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:So, just to reiterate again, the first lot
of documents that a person would receive
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:in the mail is their approval documents.
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:That approval has entered the queue.
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:and they'll be waiting to have
their home care package assigned.
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:And then some months down the track,
they'll receive some more documentation
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:that will actually say you have been
assigned your home care package.
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:Michelle: Right.
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:So how does the ACAT determine the
priority level, which is, how long
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:a person can wait until they're
assigned their home care package?
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:Coral: So during the ACAT assessment,
the assessor will ask lots of questions
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:about what the older person can do
and what they can't do for themselves.
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:They'll ask what support is in place
already, and this might be support that
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:the family are paying for privately, such
as a cleaner or law knowing contractor.
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:The ACAT will ask about how much support
the family is currently providing, and
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:if this amount of support is sustainable.
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:So this is a very
important point to clarify.
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:I'll just explain that for a moment.
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:Providing a high level of support
such as daily reminders to take
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:medications, helping your older loved
one with showering and personal care,
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:managing incontinence, cooking meals
for a loved one, visiting them to
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:ensure that they're safe, leaving work
during lunch breaks to check on them.
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:This level of support is very high.
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:And it's not sustainable.
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:So if a family member is providing
this level of support, it should
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:be a red flag to an ACAT assessor.
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:The family member needs to be honest
with both their older loved one, as well
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:as the ACAT assessor, that they cannot
continue to provide this level of support.
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:Michelle: Yeah, that's a
really important point.
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:And I think to put this in
context, Coral, do you want to
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:tell us about Heather's story?
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:Coral: Yes, I will.
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:it's a really good representation
of what I've just discussed there.
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:So Heather's mum was not registered
with My Aged Care and not receiving,
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:obviously, any support via My Aged Care.
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:Heather was providing a lot of support
for her mum who was cognitively impaired.
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:She was exhausted and she was afraid
that her employer was going to ask her
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:to leave because during the day, Heather
kept running home to check on her mum.
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:So , when Heather came to us for
help, we assessed her mum's needs and
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:made a very detailed and compelling
report that highlighted All the
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:support Heather was providing and
the fragility of the situation namely
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:to Heather's health and wellbeing.
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:So when the ACAT did assess Heather's mum,
she received an approval for a home care
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:package level four, the highest level,
and they approved that at a high priority.
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:And that package was
assigned within the month.
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:Michelle: Wow.
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:Coral: Yeah.
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:Michelle: So, depending on the urgency
for formal support, and in this case
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:meaning a home care package, The ACAT
will approve the package as a high or
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:generally a medium, wouldn't it, which
determines the length of time until
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:the older person is assigned a package.
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:Coral: that's correct.
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:Michelle: Do you ever see
low priority approvals?
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:Coral: Very rarely, , in our experience
and we, talk to a lot of people
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and we're engaging with people across social media.
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:They have some support at entry level
and by the time they, recognize the need
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:for increased support, meaning that entry
level support cannot sustain them any
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:longer, and they need to go up to the
next level and get an ACAT assessment.
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:A low prior, like I've seen it once, and
I've been doing this for a long time.
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:So, I'm sure it does happen.
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:But what we see generally is that people
are approved at a medium priority.
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:And then there are those who.
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:really have that urgency for support so
they get approved at a high priority?
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:Michelle: Right.
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:And if a person's needs change, and
they really need the support at the
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:time, that the home care package can
provide, like while they are still
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:in the queue waiting, can they do
anything to reduce the wait time?
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:Coral: Yes, they can.
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:So if a person is waiting to have
their home care package assigned and
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:for whatever reason they need the
support it can offer sooner rather
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:than later, they can call My Aged Care
and request a support plan review.
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:Now some people call this a
priority review and in essence it
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:is, but you know the formal name
for it is a support plan review.
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:Which means the ACAT will review the
priority level and may change the
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:approval from a medium to high priority.
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:What this does is it moves the
person to the front of the queue,
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:decreasing their wait time by months.
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:Michelle: And that's, a
legitimate thing to do,
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:Coral: Absolutely.
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:A hundred percent.
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:Yeah.
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:Michelle: So Coral, what would
be some of the reasons that a
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:person might take this action?
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:Coral: It might be that there has been a
significant health issue such as a fall
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:or a heart attack or a stroke that causes
the older person to decline functionally
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:and need a lot more help from the family.
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:And this is not an unusual situation.
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:If the family cannot provide this
increased support, that would be an
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:indicator for a support plan review.
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:Another reason is a change in
the current caring arrangement.
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:If a family member who is caring for the
older person becomes unwell themselves
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:or needs to move away for work, leaving
the older person without support, and
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:if the older person couldn't manage at
home without support, then this would
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:be another reason to request a support
plan review for a change of care.
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:Priority
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:Michelle: Okay.
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:What are the current wait
times for packages Coral?
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:Coral: if a person is approved to
their home care package at a medium
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:priority, the wait times, as we
speak in July,:
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:one month for a level one package.
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:three to six months for
a level two package.
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:And then it blows out to nine to 12 months
for a level three package and also nine
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:to 12 months for a level four package.
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:So for someone to be approved
for a high level package being
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:a three or a four, waiting for
up to 12 months is a long time.
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:In fact, it's just too long.
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:So if a person was approved as
a high priority, their wait time
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:would decrease by many months
for those higher level packages.
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:What we're seeing and what people
report back to us is that a high
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:priority approval for the home care
package, the, these packages are being
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:assigned within weeks and not months.
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:So it makes a huge difference to
people who are absolutely sort
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:of teetering on the brink of.
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:I can't do this anymore.
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:If I don't get some help now, I'm going to
have to put mom or dad in a nursing home.
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:, people, again, in general terms, tend to
be unaware that they can take this action
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:and they can get the priority changed
because, this is about vulnerability and
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:risk and we don't want the older person
presenting at the local hospital or.
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:Having to go into a nursing home
because they couldn't get that formal
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:support when they actually needed it.
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:Michelle: Yeah.
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:And you've just said it Coral, Getting
that support when the person really
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:needs it can make the difference between
being able to stay at home and being
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:admitted to an aged care facility.
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:Coral: That's exactly right, Shell.
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:Yep.
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:Michelle: This has been an enlightening
discussion, Coral, and one that I know
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:our listeners are going to find helpful.
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:Being clear about the approval and
then the wait for the package to be
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:assigned and then knowing what to do
if the older person's needs change
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:while they're waiting for the package
to be assigned is key to being able to
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:remain at home for as long as possible.
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