Crystals have been used for centuries to support healing, protection, and spiritual practice—but how do they actually work?
In this episode of Spirit Sherpa, Kelle Sparta and Jules explore the energetic intelligence of crystals, how sympathetic magic influences their use, and practical ways to work with crystals for protection, cleansing, healing, and manifestation. They also discuss advanced topics including crystal grids, energetic programming, Atlantean crystal technology, haunted objects, and why discernment is essential when working with spiritually charged tools.
Whether you're new to crystal work or an experienced practitioner looking to deepen your understanding, this conversation offers grounded insights into using crystals responsibly and effectively.
Kelle Sparta
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Hello, and welcome to Spirit Sherpa, the show that helps and encourages you on your journey to unlock your magic mojo. I'm Jules, your co-host. If you're new to this type of work, please start with episode one. If you're an intermediate, you can fast-forward to episode 98.
If, if you are an advanced practitioner, go ahead and fast-forward all the way to 200. So with me, as always, to share her insight and her wisdom, is the spirit doctor herself, Kelle Sparta. Hi, Kelle. How are you today? Well, you know, I've had better days. I crawled up on my pillow last night and my neck is all locked up, so I'm trying to fix that.
But otherwise, I'm, I'm stellar. So, yes. So life is, life is pretty freaking awesome here in Panama, let me just say that. I, I... It... Really, oh my God, so good. Just... I'm, I'm... People are like, "Aren't you coming back?" I'm like, "No. Never coming back." There was no hesitation. There was nothing. You're just like, "Mm-mm, I have my happy forever place.
I'm good." Yes. Super thrilled to be here. So, um, and that's saying something, 'cause it's the rainy season. So, which isn't actually saying something, because, you know, the funny thing is that people are like, "Oh, the rainy season, the rainy season. It's, it's... So, it rains all the time." It's like, no, it rains every day, but it doesn't rain all the time.
You know, when I lived in Boston, we would get two weeks of rain at a shot. You would not see the sun for two weeks. And here, you see the sun basically every day. You know, there might be one or two days in a s- you know, in a, in a few weeks that you don't see the sun at all, but basically every day you see the sun at some point.
And so it's not nearly as bad as people think it would be. And the rain is warm. So yeah, if you get caught out in it, sure, you get wet, but it's warm, so it's not like it's miserable, right? So yeah. Even the, even the rainy season, right? Even, even the things that people are like, "Oh, no..." It's like, oh, no, you know, you definitely wanna be in the rainy season, because that's when the ground is most lush.
All the greenery is the most lush, right? It's just, it's beautiful because it's had a lot of water. And this year is a little weird because we're in an El Niño effect, and so, like, we're, we're a lot hotter than usual where I am. Um, like, we normally don't get above, say, mm, 80, 80, 85 in, in my part of the mountains.
Um, and yesterday it was 34 Celsius, which I think is, like, I don't know, like, 98. It, it was insanely hot yesterday. I was just sitting still with a fan blowing on me, dripping sweat. I'm like, "Okay, yeah, time to go inside and find the air conditioning." You need the air con. Is that okay? Yeah, I've been saying that a lot lately.
Yeah. So, but that's really unusual for where we are. Really, like, like, 10 degrees above what we normally are. And so e- everybody's like- Ah, it's like, oh, El Nino. Yeah. We were getting less rain and more sun, and so this year is just gonna be one of those years. But yeah. That's it. Well- Mm-hmm ... yeah, and we, uh, finally got some rain 'cause, uh, Resurrection Garden struck again.
So we have- Mm-hmm ... the garden. Yeah, I call it Resurrection Garden. The fairies just don't leave. They just do all kind of fun stuff. So we haven't replanted yet, but yet we have watermelons and cucumbers and okra coming up from some mysterious seeds that didn't, you know, um, sprout the first time around.
Well, now they're sprouting in, in the middle of a dirt pile. Like, the garden is- With no water ... w- we, we haven't had water since, like, in two and a half months, right? And I, everything, they l- they look just so green and so pretty And so I went out there and went like, "What the? All right, y'all just go ahead on with yourselves."
So, and it was perfect timing with the cucumbers because I'm running very low on my sweet relish, my homemade sweet relish. So I need some more cucumbers, 'cause I'm not going buy that many cucumbers in the store. That's just ridiculous. No. So aside from the garden, today we are talking about crystals, and, uh, spiritual cleansing and protection.
And we actually have one of our listeners, Erin, um, Stawski, who suggested this episode. Erin, awesome. Thank you. I so appreciate people who suggest episodes, 'cause after five years I'm tired of figuring out what to talk about. So we love you. Thank you for that. Thank you, Erin. And so, yeah, so we're gonna talk about crystals and their properties.
st year we did the podcast in:Yeah. Spir- spiritual cleansing, protection, and, um, I think she had mentioned, uh, that she kind of was wondering about their, like the sympathetic magic, how we can use that sympathetic magic with, when we're using crystals. Right. Okay. So, uh, wow, my brain is not holding things today. So protection, we'll start with that, and then you'll prompt me for the next thing because my brain won't hold anything else.
Okay. So protection, uh, and crystals. So there are crystals that are specifically aligned with protective energies, and depending upon what you're protecting, uh, you may choose one versus another. And so the reason I say that is because, uh, some crystals are more expensive than others, right? And so, you know, you'll use the ones that are b- that are
The smaller ones like garnet. Garnet is a protective c- crystal. Um, and obsidian, right? Tho- those are protective crystals. So, um, and onyx. Those are the, the three that are most known for protection. Now, hematite is not technically protective, but it does absorb negative energies. However, however ... She's showing her hematite r- bracelet there.
Yes. So, however You must, must, must, must cleanse your hematite on a regular basis, or else when it gets full, it will dump all that negative energy into your field. Yay, happy joy. So if you're ADHD and you don't do very well at tracking how long things have been, let's not use hematite, okay? It's probably not your best bet.
So, uh, but garnet, for instance, is... It, it's not super pricey, but you can't get it in large pieces usually. It's usually you get that in, like, little beads and things like that in necklaces. Um, the onyx and obsidian are more available as larger chunks, and those are often very useful for things like protecting your property, things like that, okay?
Now, do you have to use crystals to protect your property? Absolutely not. You don't have to. And in fact, you, you can use other types of crystals if you want to. You don't have to use the obsidian or the onyx. You could use ro- uh, um, uh, regular quartz, um, or amethyst. But, you know, you're gonna have to bury whatever it is that you use on your property to avoid it being kicked over or moved or whatever.
So if you're gonna put it at the edges of your property line, you're gonna need to bury it. And so, you know, you know, amethyst and, and amethyst is an amplifier, right? As is, um, regular quartz And so those two would work just fine, but they don't have the sympathetic magic of protection like onyx and obsidian do.
Okay? So if you're protecting yourself, then garnet would be helpful. You can wear garnet or obsidian or onyx, right? Uh, but if you're protecting your property, then you're looking at one of those other items that we were just talking about. And that's how you use them. You bury them at the corners of the property and you attach your, your protections, your wards to them.
Ward is W-A-R-D, right? Um, and then they ... you utilize the natural sympathetic maner- magic energies of the stones to amplify and support the energetic that you created when you put the protection up in the first place. Okay? And so that is a very simple way to do protections. So, um, I've also done it in my house.
So like I have these beautiful four cryst- uh, not crystal, copper balls. Um, and they are heavy as all get out, you know? Um, and they're like 12 millimeters, you know? They're, they're, they're, they're big, right? Um, and w- I have used them in the corners of my healing space to hold the space within the house, um, as well.
So those you can just plop in the corners. I use the copper balls 'cause I love copper, and copper will basically, um, amplify anything you wanna put in it, so that works out. Um, but you could also do the obsidian, the onyx, the cris- the quartz, the amethyst. Right? The thing to remember about amethyst is that if you're gonna use it outside, you had best be burying it because it bleaches in the sun So you will lose the color of the amethyst if you leave it out in the sunlight.
So don't ever put your amethyst outside. Now, do you have to, for the ones on the four, uh, say the four corners of the property, right? You buried them. So is there any instance that you would need to, like, dig them up and cleanse them and then reset them? No. But you definitely wanna do it when you leave the property, right?
If you sell that house or you move out of that house, you, you wanna dig them back up again because you don't wanna leave your energetic in place for somebody else. Yeah, let's not do that. That's being- Let's not do that ... sloppy. Yeah. Okay. Sloppy, sloppy. Sloppy, sloppy. And then what's, what's like for, say like my ones that I'm wearing, you know, either a necklace, earrings or whatever, what's your favorite way to cleanse those type of crystals?
No, my favorite way is to hold them in my hand and blow on it and go, "Clear." That's my favorite. There you go. I'm just like, "Done." Works for me. Shit done. Yeah. So that's my favorite way of doing it, but there are many ways you can do it. You, there's, um, you know, you... Selenite is a natural cleanser, and so if you get one of the selenite bowls, you can just drop your crystals in the bowl and walk away, and it'll cleanse them, and it has the added benefit of also being beautiful, so it can sit in your living room and do nothing and, and look like, you know, you've got a pile of crystals in it and you've got your crystal...
You, you, and you, you're not out of the spiritual closet, but it just looks like decoration. That's awesome, right? Um, you can also do, uh, fu- uh, full moon cleansing, so you just stick them in a wind, wind, uh, a window sill. That'd be a window sill. Put them on the window. A window sill, yeah. Window sill, yes. A window sill that gets the moon light.
And, um, you know, obviously full moon is, is most effecient, mo- m- most effec- God, I can't talk today, most efficient. Wow, yeah, I can talk. Um, but obviously the full moon is most efficient because it gives the most light, right? Um, and then there's also, uh, putting them in water or burying them in the ground to cleanse them.
Be careful what ones you put in water and what ones you put in the ground outside because, uh, things like calcite will dissolve, and they will disappear in water. And so if you put them outside in the dirt and it rains, you could lose some of your crystal So that one's my least favorite method. But you put them in salt water usually, right?
That's the idea is salt water, um, because the salt is the, is the cleansing, purification piece, and usually sea salt, right? But any salt will do in a pinch. Any salt will do in a pinch. Any salt will do. It's all about your... How do you do magic? It's intention. Absolutely. There you go. So, okay. So on, what's the, um...
What about some crystals for spiritual cleansing? Spiritual cleansing. Okay. So a- and again, hematite. Hematite's great for this because it will just pull the n- negative energy out of your field, right? Now, when I say negative energy, let me be clear. It is not gonna pull entities out of your field. It's gonna pull bad juju, bad energy, right?
It's gonna pull the, the ugh energy that's in your field. It will not take off, you know, what I call smuggies. Sh- smuggies, right? Smuggie. Smuggies. Yes. Which, you know, think, think Slimer from, from Ghostbusters, and then now you have a smuggie. That's a smuggie, okay? Um, it is not gonna pull a smuggie or an entity or a demon off of you.
That, that is more than it can manage, okay? But it will clear any sort of icky, gunky, bleh-y, negative, wee, whiny, bitchy, blah, blah, blah energy. All the PMS energy that you got. All the PMS energy, yes.
Yes, queen. Yes. Yes. All right. It will take you there right there. So, yeah. Bang, bang. All right. Now, the, the, i- in terms of other cleansing sort of energies, it, it really depends on what you're trying to cleanse, right? So, you know, oftentimes I will use rose quartz because it is just love. Rose qu- rose quartz and chrysocolla, those are the...
Uh, no, sorry. Rose quartz and rhodochrosite. I always, I always mess those two up. I don't know why, because they don't sound alike at all, at all, but I always do. Rose quartz and rhodochrosite are both sort of lovey-dovey energy, right? And if you're trying to clear stuff, lovey-dovey energy is supportive, right?
And so that's, that's useful. Um, y- you can use clear quartz and amethyst. Again, they're amplifiers. They will do whatever your intention is and, and just amp it up, right? Um, in terms of, uh, clearing energy, well, selenite's always a good one. It's clearing energy unto itself, right? We talked about that earlier.
And, um, you know, angelite is a good negativity reducer as well. In fact, if you have a, a bad boss, tape a piece of, of angelite under their desk. It'll make life easier. Yeah That's a new one. I have not heard of this. Yeah. Oh my gosh. It's just- That's good ... amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Go in late at night, go underneath their desk, take it, duct tape it to the top of the desk so that they, in the very back corner so they won't see it.
They won't see it. Yeah. And, and it'll, it'll help you out. It'll help. Yeah. There you go. There you go. So yeah, those are the major ones. Um, you know, and, uh, I always say, look, pick up a copy of the book Love is in the Earth. It is the absolute encyclopedia of stones. There are so many stones. There are stones showing up now that I have never heard of before, and I used to sell crystals.
So, uh, you know, there's, there's always a new thing being discovered and, uh, and/or made available that was not available before, right? And this book is, like, 600 and some pages last I checked, which was 20 years ago, so it's probably got more pages now. But, um, but the book is super comprehensive. It tells you everything you could possibly wanna know.
Um, the only thing I wish about the book, 'cause the book is actually categorized by the stone, and I wish that the book existed as a website such that you could search by what you want it to do, and it would deliver back to you what stones would be supportive. Because I think that would be more useful.
But it is what it is. So somebody out there who has coding experience and wants to make something really cool, you could do that. So if you do, let me know. I'll promote it, okay? Yeah. So yeah, so you know, crystals, what you have to recognize about crystals is that they have a fundamental consciousness, and so you need to pay attention to them because they will talk to you.
They don't talk the way other things talk, but they, they make it clear. Like, I had a friend who wanted to borrow one of my crystals once, and she was gonna tuck it in her bra, and I just was... A- and I held the crystal, and I was like, "No, no, no." And I was like, "No, no, no, I really don't wanna give it to you. I really don't want to," but I, I couldn't figure a good reason not to hand it to her in that moment.
This was 20 years ago, before I would've just said no, right? That was back before I had my no down, right? And so I loaned it to her, and she put it in her bra. She adjusted her bra, and it fell out, and it shattered into a million pieces on the floor. Both my intuition and the crystal's intuition were like, "No, no, no, no," right?
It knew, right? Yeah. So I felt bad for killing a crystal when it told me not to. Um, and you know, it is what it is. So but they also have intentions too. I ha- I can't tell you how many times people have told me that their crystals just disappeared on them. And they just winked out of existence, and they were just no longer there.
And it's like, "Yep, my time here is done. Bye." Yeah. Yeah. It is. I, I moved on to the next person. Uh, yeah, that, that stuff happens, too. I, I once took my crystals out for a Pagan Pride Day. Um, and, uh, I was selling the necklaces that I make, right? So I used to make these transformational jewelry pieces where somebody would come in and tell me what, what it was that they, you know
I would talk to them long enough to get a sense of their energy and who they were and whatever, and then I would talk to them about where they wanted to be, enough to be able to build the vision of what that energy would look like when they were already there. And then I would build that energy into a necklace so that they could wear the energy until they can live into it.
Which u- usually took, like, six to nine months. It was very cool. And so I was selling that, but on the side, I had put, brought an extra table just to let my crystals clear in the sunlight, right? Because that's another option, right? And so I had this piece, uh, I don't remember, I think it was fluorite, which looking back on it, I'm like, "Well, that was stupid," 'cause fluorite also, uh, uh, fades in the sunlight, too.
And I was just like, I didn't even think about it, but now I'm looking at it going, "Ah, I shouldn't have had that out in the sunlight. What was I thinking?" Right? So yeah, hindsight, right? Uh, but somebody walked up to me, and, uh, all day people were trying to buy my crystals. And I'm like, "You can't have my freaking cry- crystals.
Come around here." I'm like, "Stop it." And so, um, but all day I was like, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no." And this person walked up, and she picked up the crystal and she said, "How much?" And I said, "$18." And she was like, "Okay," and she paid it to me, and she walked off. And I was sitting there with my friend, and my friend looked at me and I was like, "Did you see that?"
She said, "What? Did I see what? Like, the crystal just, like, grabbed your mouth and said, '$18?'" And I said, "Yeah, because I didn't fucking say that." She's like, "Nope, you did not. That crystal said, '$18.'" I said, "That's exactly what I paid for it." And she was like, and she was like, "Yep." And the crystal was done, and that was hers.
And I'm like, "Okay." So every other crystal was happy to stay with me, because I got to say no to everyone else.
That one was moving on. Like, okay. And, uh, when I had gone to the Magical Market, I'd actually won a huge package of, like, over $150 worth of stuff, right? And in there was an amethyst crystal. You know, like raw amethyst, right? And I love raw amethyst. So when I brought it home, I'm like, "Oh, yeah," but, um, but it never felt right, and I'm like, "What's going on with this?
Okay." Friend of mine was coming in. I haven't seen her in four or five years, and so her and her husband come in to visit, and we were all getting together and everything. And I was getting ready, and I s- and I, my eyes went straight to that crystal and went, "Oh, you're supposed to go to her. Okay, cool." So I picked it up, and I brought it with me, and then I got clarification.
The crystal was not for her, who was the mom. It was actually for her daughter. That was one of the twin babies that was there that I was just meeting. They're my, they're my, you know, surrogate grandkids, too, you know. And so I'm like, "Oh, this is supposed to go to Vivian. Okay, gotcha." So, uh, so I said, "You hold onto this till Vivian's old enough.
This is her crystal. It's not yours to keep. It's hers." And, and then I was like, "Okay, this is just the most natural thing." She was like, "Okay, I'll do that." I said, "That's what the crystal told me." She said, "That's what I..." I said, "Yes." I said, "You want me to show you?" So she was like, "No, I got it. It's all good." I said, "Okay, cool."
So, but yeah, so that was, I had no clue, but it went, it had to go through me to get to her. So when you think about what has to line up in the universe of things to get from point A to point B to the wholesaler to the retailer to me going to this magical market to get this specific crystal to, "Oh, by the way, they're coming down to get this to this baby toddler," is like, "Okay, that's cool."
You know? That, that's very, very cool. Yeah. So, so let's talk about some advanced sort of uses of crystals, because, um, you know, there ... You can do a crystal grid for manifestation. Um, and that's putting together a bunch of different crystals to create a, uh, a lattice work. You know, it's like a, a web, right, of connections between all the crystals to utilize that to create a manifestation grid that will hold the energy of your manifestation energy, right?
And, and constantly feed it, right? Now, uh, if you have cleaning people who come to your house, you need to let them know that they can't touch your freaking altar, right? Because they will mess that up, or you'll have to reset it every time they come in, which is kind of defeats the purpose, right? But that works.
I used to have a, uh, a window quartz, uh, before I moved down here. It was my favorite piece of crystal. Uh, it was a, uh, basically it was sort of, um, frosted around all parts except for the one part that was cleanly sliced and polished. And so it, it almost worked like a crystal ball. You know, it's like I would put it on a chakra, and I could look through it to see what I needed to see at the time.
And so it was really cool. It was kind of like a, a magnifying glass for energy, right? Um, I loved that. That worked really well for years. Now, I, I don't need it now. Uh, I haven't used it in ages, which is why I let it go when we moved. But, um, but it was a really useful piece of equipment for me. And, um, when I was running my Reiki healing practice, I actually had an amethyst tower That with its permission, and over a period of, of m- many months, I had attuned it to level Reiki two.
Um, and it also would add energy into the room as part of any, a- any Reiki healing process I would do, is I would activate it and it would provide an, an additional energy source for the Reiki. Oh, wow. So. I didn't know you could attune crystals. There you go. See, like I said, advanced techniques that we're talking about.
I was gonna say, serious. Okay. So, you know, crystals, uh, they, they have their own consciousness. And so you, you really need to listen to them about what they want to hold, what they will hold, what they will allow through them, things like that. So this particular amethyst and I negotiated for this, right?
And it was like, "Okay, but slowly." And I'm like, "Okay." And so I never got it past Reiki two before I finally sold it. But, um, it was, it was delightful. And so, you know, I mean, they're using crystals to store data. There's data storage via crystal, and that's what they used to do in Atlantis too. In Atlantis, crystals ran everything.
Oh, really? They were, uh, they were a power source? But they also- They were power source, they were data storage, they were- They were data storage. Okay. I didn't- Yes ... I couldn't remember that one. Okay. Yeah. They, they held energy grids. They, they did everything. So, you know, we haven't really tapped all the access into crystals that, that used to be used in Atlantis time.
Um, I actually have fond memories. Well, not really fond memories 'cause it was of everything imploding. But, um, I have memories- Before the implosion, it was fond memories Yes, yes. The same friend that, that I, I gave the crystal to that get, got shattered, um, she and I were in Atlantis together. And we, uh, I remember being in the power plant And watching the crystal, the main crystal of the power plant shatter and explode, and that was, like, the beginning of the end for Atlantis, so.
Okay. Yeah. How big was this crystal that it was p- It was massive. I mean, it was- Like, we're talking, like, mountain big? Like- We're talking- ... car big? No, it was, it was probably, I wanna say, like, one stor... No, two stories high, and, uh, probably 50, 60 feet wide. Okay, that's a biggun. Yeah, so n- it- probably taller. And, and...
'Cause it was much taller than it was wide. So it was, it was 50 or 60 feet high, uh, wide, which means that it was probably four or five stories high. Yeah. It was massive. Massive. I'm just, like, y- y- from across the room it took up the entire field of vision, right? It was big, so. And it was a big room. So yeah.
Now, was it the same type of crystals that, um- It was amethyst ... ame- oh, okay. Th- so, so to power it, that, that was, it was amethyst. That particular one was amethyst. Then what about, like, the, like, the, I'll say s- uh, data keepers or storage, storage keepers? That was a different type? I didn't, I don't have that memory from Atlantis, but, but I believe that those, those are regular quartz in today's world.
Okay. Okay. 'Cause I know they have the, um, might be saying the wrong word, but, um, I think it's called phantoms or... and, or there's record keepers. Um, and there's crystals that you can... There's a certain how it looks, and they call them record keepers. And it- Yeah, those are f- those are usually regular quartz, clear quartz, with, um, with, uh, they're, like, they've got, like, almost braille on them.
Yeah. That's, those are the record keepers. Yeah. Now what I wanted to ask. I remember you talking about, it may have been in that first episode you were talking about, s- or something about crystal skulls, and it was a story, I think it was you that told me about it. It was some story that literally the, like, the person passed by and this crystal started talking to the person, but it turned out it was a demon inside of it.
So can you kinda tell the difference? How do you tell the difference between- This a demon talking to me, or this is a crystal that wants to work with me? Yeah. So this particular person had a penchant for things that were bad for her. She was really good at picking the things that were gonna hurt her every time.
Um, and so, you know, when you, when you've done that a couple of times, bring a friend, right? That's what I'm gonna say, because your picker is broken, right? Um, and, and you gotta, you gotta adjust your picker. So, uh, but in general, if a quartz feels good, then it's probably good for you. If it talks to you and promise you to do things, then there's something ick in it.
It's like icky, icky, poo poo. Don't, don't get that, okay? Because, you know, w- crystals can store entities and hold them a- and it's like a genie in a bottle thing, right? But, you know, this thing can still mess with you if you let it. Yeah, 'cause there, there was a demon inside of hers, right? Or it was... Or was it cursed or something?
I, I... It was, it was some sort of cursed entity. It, it felt less like a demon and more like a really angry wizard. May have been djinn. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It felt... No, it felt more human, but it was like, it was a really powerful being that had been trapped in this thing for a really long time and was pissed. It was so mad, and it was like, "Oh, God, really?
No, let's not do this." Yeah. Okay, and then I'm hearing a follow-up question from somebody listening to us. I'm gonna go with that. Um, well, wouldn't I just set him free? Oh, Jesus, no.
No. But why? Oh my God, please don't. If he's pi- if he's the math on this Have you, have you never watched a single superhero movie that has a super villain? This guy would be an immediate super villain, and there would be very few people capable of mopping up the mess you just made. So there's a reason the guy got locked away.
Get a grip, right? Do not let him out. But what if he's wrongfully accused? He might be a good one, but then Maya says, "You can't tell, can you? So how about we just leave him alone?" Leave it be. If you don't know, you don't know. Leave it be. There... Oh my God. Yeah. All I'm, all I'm seeing right now is all the TikToks where the guys are going with metal detectors and, like, finding all of these, uh, you know, these metal boxes that have been, have these, these skulls and things put inside of them that, you know, there are things that, that magical practitioners have put together and locked things away in and thrown them into the ocean or buried them underground for a freaking reason, and these guys are opening them up.
Like, are you stupid? And all of these practitioners are, are, like, uh, dueting the, the guys doing this going, "Don't open that. Don't open that. Don't open that. Don't open what you don't understand. Don't open that." Right? That's all I'm seeing right now, so please, please don't. Yeah, it's a bad idea. Yeah, we watched some of that on...
It was w- on one of the, the shows that we were watching, um, probably Paranormal Caught on Camera or something like that, and, uh, and this dude, like, no, he bought this demon box. He was like, "Yeah, I just wanna see if it's real." Okay, that's what you're gonna pick to see if it's real or not, okay? So, I mean, it was...
I don't know. It had, like, burned skeleton parts in it and stuff, and it was sealed with, like, you know, the candle wax, the whole nine yards. Yeah. Had stuff on there. I have no idea what the- I promise it's not just candle wax. It's candle wax and blood because if you're gonna bind a demon, you need blood to do that, so.
Yeah. And as soon as he, like, opened it, the box itself moved, and then it, like, you know, if you peek it open, oh, no, this thing flung itself open, and then he wonders why he's not feeling good and why all of a sudden whenever he leaves that place... And now he's gonna put everything back in the box and seal it with duct tape.
I can't make this up if I tried. I can't make it up. And then put it in the trash outside, that that's gonna, you know, that's gonna, you know, keep the demon from, or whatever it was, from attaching to him. No, the, the sucker followed that dude home and, like, would just... I mean, his life was hell. Oh, yes, it would be.
Yeah. There's a reason that they found that thing, and it's pissed, and anything that opens the box is gonna see as being its captor because it's been there for too long, and it doesn't remember who put it in there. So yeah, no. So I'm thinking in that instance, let's just say I have a stupid moment and I do this.
There's no crystal on earth that is gonna protect me from, from the thing that is now I have released, right? No, you need help. Yeah. That's when you call some Ghostbusters. You need to call, and you need to be prepared to say, "I was stupid." Okay? Because whoever answers the phone for you with the capability of doing that for you is gonna be like, "What the hell did you do?"
And you'll be like, "Yes, I was stupid." It's like, "Yes, you were stupid. Don't ever do this again." Yeah. "Because now I have to put myself on the line to, to save your stupid ass," right? And so, you know, that's gonna be expensive, folks. Just so you know. You're gonna pay a lot of stupid tax on that transaction.
Expensive. And it should be, because there is a stupid tax attached to it.
Not only is it really hard and not many people can do it, it is also a you're, you were stupid, you're paying extra for this. That's just how that goes, you know? Just saying. Yeah, just saying. Yeah. Or there's- Especially if you had a warning. Yeah. Yeah. Go, here's a demon box. Oh, yeah, let me open that. Let me open that.
It's like- Charminism in action. Thank you. Yes. But I just wanted to see what was in it. Yeah, curiosity killed the cat, you know? That's not good. No satisfaction bringing that cat back. It ain't no satisfaction bringing him back. Not just, not happening. So, so like in Crystal Skull, okay, that's what, like, your, your friend, um, experienced with that one.
Um, and I'm ass- it was a quartz, but are there other... Is it usually, if something is going to inhabit a crystal or be put into a crystal, is it usually gonna be quartz that that's gonna happen with, or, like, some other kind of crystal? You know, um, pick one. You know, hema- I'm curious about that ... I don't know if it is like...
Yeah. So. A calcite, um- It will be a- A sodalite. No, it will definitely not be a calcite or a sodalite. Um, calcite is too porous, as is sodalite. It's always gonna be a really hard crystal. So you could, I mean, you could even do it with a diamond. But, um, but they're generally too small. It, generally it'll be a quartz, but it could be a, you know, obsidian or onyx.
Those are both, um, hard enough. But yeah, generally you want a really hard crystal for that. It's, it's just, it, the solidity of the crystal provides the solidity of the container, right? Sympathetic magic again. Yeah, I just pulled that one out of my butt and I'm, well, I channeled that. I was like, "I don't know.
Let me ask my guys." And they're like, "Here. Here's the answer." I'm like, "Hey, thanks guys. Here we go." 'Cause I've never had to know this because I've never tried to put anybody inside a crystal. So you know. Yeah, little deets, right? Um, although, you know, I mean, it can be done in other things. I mean, um, I know somebody who has a, um, a, a sword, a rapier, that has an entity attached to it.
Um, so it could be pretty much anything that it can go into. I mean, there are entities in dolls by the dozens, right? There's just like all kinds of entities go in dolls. Mm-mm. No dolls in my house. I don't care if it's Barbie, I don't care what it is, there are no dolls in my house. Not happening. Mm-mm. Nope.
Ain't happening. Mm-mm. Yeah, that happens a lot. So, but yeah, I mean, it, energies can be attached. So, so there's a couple of things. There's, the energies can be attached to things, and then energies can be trapped in things, and those are different. Energies that are attached to things are usually by their own volition.
They've chosen to So they've chosen to be attached to that thing. Okay? And so, you know, they're attached to it because it has some sort of value to them, some sort of meaning to them, right? Um, and so that's how you get things like haunted dolls and har- like the coat that I bought from Goodwill years ago, it came with the ghost of the lady attached to it.
And I was like, I put the coat on and she's like, "You can hear me, you can see me. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la." She wouldn't shut up, right? Yeah. I've been waiting for years to talk to somebody. That was her favorite coat, and that's what she was attached to. Yeah. And so I was like, well, this is no fun. So had to cross her over because man, she would not shut up.
And so I'm like, when other people are talking, you do not talk. This is how social rules work. She's like, "Well, they can't hear me." I'm like, "Yeah, but if I can't hear you or them because you're both talking at the same time, guess who I'm gonna be mad at? Because they don't know not to talk." Because they don't know you're talking, so shut up.
Like, like, ugh. So finally just crossed her over. I was like, "Okay, enough." Right? And, um, so you know, sometimes they'll become attached to things for that reason. Um, but then other times they're forcibly put into something to, you know, like the, the blade that was... It was forcibly put into the blade. Well, hmm.
So it was kind of, this particular item, the thing agreed to be in the blade, but I don't think it recognized it would be trapped there forever. And so, so it was not... It, it was, it was happy to be part of, you know, bloodletting because the blade was for like killing people, and it was like, "Yeah, I'm on it."
You know? It liked that. But it was not happy about being there when there was no battle to be had. And so it would create angst and hate and discontent to, in the hopes that you would pull it out and kill somebody with it or draw blood with it. This is why you don't want these things, guys. When it gets bored, you get in trouble.
Pretty much, yeah. Unless you have really excellent shields and really excellent pro- protections for yourself. But you know, again, this is, this is one of those things, and we're far enough along in the podcast that I'll talk about this stuff now, but, um, it, it's dangerous for beginners because they're like all puffing up and, "Oh, I'm gonna prove myself," blah, blah, blah.
Do not prove yourself with this shit, man. This is a bad idea. You will lose. If you don't know that you're a badass already, you need to not be doing this shit. If you only think you could be a badass, uh-uh, not enough. Okay? Let me be clear. If you have any doubt that you're a badass, this is not something to fuck with.
Let's be clear. Is that clear enough? Yeah. Leave it alone. Step away from the cursed object Yeah, I feel like we're back in the first, first season, first year where I spent- Here's how not to blow yourself up ... most of the time training. Here's how not to blow yourself up, right? Yeah, yeah. Ex- Here's how not to blow yourself up.
Yes. Yeah. The advanced version. So, you know, and with that said, um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say, look, you know, if you are listening to this and you, you are far enough along in your journey that y- you know, some of this stuff makes sense to you, then, you know, it, it becomes a lot harder to find stuff that can actually help you evolve.
And, you know, this is when you really need to turn to people who actually have been there before you, who have a knowledge of it, and who, who know their stuff, right? And so I'm gonna remind y'all, I have an apprenticeship program And I am still taking applications for that. I, I'm, I'm only gonna work with a few people.
I don't have time to work with a ton. So if you would like to be considered for the apprenticeship program, then, um, sign up for the discovery call, uh, on my website, and, uh, sign up as a spiritual seeker, and then in the additional info box, say apprenticeship. You, you wanna know about the apprenticeship program.
'Cause I'm not even creating a form for it because it's... I'm only taking a very few people, and I'm not taking everybody who applies either, just so you know. What? So, it's- How dare you. Yeah. Well- ... you gotta be ready. I'm not gonna take people I'm gonna blow up, right? You gotta be ready. That means that, to be ready means that you are actively doing your personal growth work, you are actively learning energetics, and you have the ability to self-regulate your emotions, and you are already at the stage where you are moving towards the, the optimization of you, towards the...
Well, you know, when you start in this work, you start by going away from what you don't want. You, you're like, "I'm in pain. I'm gonna move away from pain." And at some point, you make the switch to, "Wow, this has been working so much, and, uh, so well, and I feel so much better. How much better could I feel?" And then the, the motivation becomes, "How much better can I be?
How much stronger can I be? How much more powerful can I be? How much m- more me can I be?" And then, so you have to be at that stage. You have to be past the point where you're going away from what you don't want, and, and you have turned to going towards what you do. So those are the criteria. You have to be at those stages in order to, um, be accepted as an apprentice.
And we have to vibe. That's the other piece. Yeah. Because we're gonna be working really intimately together, and I don't wanna do that with somebody I don't vibe with, right? If we don't have a vibe going, then there's, there's no, there's no real connection for that, right? And, uh, you know, if that's the case, and I think that you're ready for somebody, I will put you in touch with someone who could be a good apprentice or, you know, a, a good me- mentor for you.
Um, but, uh, you know, for me it's you gotta vibe. Well, yeah. And, and that's also, uh, from my perspective, when the, you know, universe is putting you with the teacher, your mentor that you're supposed to be with, and that you're not forcing that relationship, you know? Um, s- for me personally, I, I am learned that when I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing and heading in the right direction, it's so easy.
And then when I step off the path, and, you know, it's kinda like when you're bowling, and I'm bowling straight down, I'm like, "Gonna get that strike, yeah." And when I hit the gutter, that, it just hurts. It just a lot more difficult, you know? So they're like, "No, no, no, not that way. Go this way." Yeah. Well, and I've got another really cool piece of information for people.
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Uh, because I can hook you up with the funding source, and we can get you set up, and you can come and take the classes that you know you want. Oh, that's awesome. That's a great option. Yeah. We just got that in place yesterday, so I'm super excited. There you go. That's, that's excellent. Love that. Yeah. All right.
So, so wrapping up all our, uh, information on the crystals and the protections and the spiritual cleansings and the demons in the crystals and Mm-hmm ... everything that we went over today, what would be your Kelleism for today? Hmm, Kelleism for the day. I think what we're gonna say is shine on. And that sums it up, guys.
I love it. So that's all that we have time for this week, folks. Tune in next time when Kelle adds another chapter into your guide to energy, magic, and the spirit world. I'm Jules, here with Kelle Sparta, and you have been listening to Spirit Sherpa. So long, y'all.