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Mark Miller (MM)

 I tried to read through the terms of agreement for YouTube. There's obfuscation going on here on purpose.

Joel MacMull (JM)

I agree with you wholeheartedly. First of all, let's talk about where the terms and conditions appear on the YouTube page, which I would submit to you, is not for nothing. If you go to youtube.com and you look at it, you've got all of these tiles and you've got all of these various links on the left hand side, shorts, library, your movies, and tv.

You've gotta scroll all the way to the bottom in which they have terms and conditions hyperlinked within a whole bunch of other hyperlinked one word phrases such About, Press, Advertise, Developers, Terms, as well as a plug for NFL Sunday ticket, which if you're an NFL fan, I understand as a YouTube subscriber, you'll be eligible to enroll in later this spring.

MM

Let me jump in, Joel, because I just did what you just said and I didn't realize I had to pop the menu open. So as I was looking for the terms of agreement on the YouTube page itself, it's an infinite scroll. You can never get to the bottom of the page, and that's where most of that stuff usually is, is in a footer.

That's right. So what you just said is you had to expand the menu at the top of the page on the left hand side, and that's when I saw it at the bottom finally.