In this episode of Engaging Truth, Pastor Trey Sansom sits down with Pastor Gene Johnson of Trinity Klein Lutheran Church and School to explore a leadership truth rooted in John 13 and Philippians 2: the heart of leadership is a servant heart. Reflecting on Jesus washing His disciples’ feet, Gene unpacks how true influence flows not from authority or ego, but from humility, vulnerability, and a life saturated in Christ.

Together they discuss how servant leadership resists pride, avoids legalism, and grows out of daily time with Jesus. Whether you lead in a church, workplace, home, or community, this conversation offers a practical and Gospel-centered vision for influencing others the way Jesus does.