In Episode 20 of Clover Club, join host Erika Audrey and special guest Alex Benigno, also known as the Atlanta Magnet Man. This inspiring episode covers a diverse range of topics, including cycling adventures and mishaps, navigating the urban annoyance of nails in tires, the rewards of civil service, and the challenges of social anxiety. Plus, don't miss the special treat waiting for you at the very end of the episode! Tune in for a captivating and entertaining conversation.

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welcome to Clover club, a podcast where

we have curious conversations and stories

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and tended to make you laugh and learn.

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I'm your host, Erica and I am

really excited for today's episode.

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Today's guest literally

hits close to home for me.

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It is my next door neighbor,

Alex Benigno, Alex.

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Hi.

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Hello, how are you?

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I'm great.

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Alex I don't know if you know this

on Cinco de Mayo this year, it'll be

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16 years since I closed on my place.

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And you were there before me.

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So how long have you lived there?

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, since, , June of 20 2003,

damn, where you original owner.

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But he was already for

me for a couple of years.

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Okay.

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So Alex and I got super lucky that

we bought these amazing lofts on

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what would become the BeltLine.

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And Alex, do you feel the same way?

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I do that.

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Like we have a great setup and

we have tons of property value.

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But everything else has

also increased in price.

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So it's like there's nowhere to go, right?

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Yeah, exactly.

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I don't know where else, where I would go.

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Like, I don't want to leave.

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Yeah.

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Like I would want to stay there forever.

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Well, I want you to leave for one

reason and that's so that I can buy

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your unit and like tear down the walls.

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Although actually you can stay because

you're such an amazing neighbor

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Alex, I just have to brag about you.

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Every single woman needs to live

next door to an Alex, because I mean,

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sometimes I'll put my trash outside

my door and then finish getting

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ready for work and then go to take it.

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And it's just magically gone.

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And I just know that it's you.

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Um, one time I had mice

and I lost my fucking mind.

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And you came and handled my mouse.

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Problem.

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Well, But you're just like

the best neighbor ever.

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However, , the other side of

me, as you know, I used to share

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walls with a professional athlete

and he was the worst neighbor.

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Yeah.

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So I could hear it over on my side too.

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I was wondering that.

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Okay.

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So you could hear all of that

through my unit, into yours.

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Okay.

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So that means I'm not

being dramatic with my.

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He was pretty crazy.

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When I had that neighbor, that, that

next door to me, they had crazy party.

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Yeah.

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It was so loud on your site too.

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That's true.

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I remember one night where that neighbor

that you're referring to was partying

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and it was like two or 3:00 AM and

you woke up and I heard you like Lucy.

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Lucy careful.

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Oh my God.

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I would lose my shit all the time.

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It was.

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Like, how is this?

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Okay.

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I literally couldn't get the HOA

or anybody to take me seriously.

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And they were like, well,

you're the only one complaining.

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I'm like, what are you talking about?

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Like, yeah, I'm the only one

sharing all of this guy because

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there's a hallway on the other side.

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I'm the only one complaining.

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Why do I say.

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Having your rights.

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Yeah.

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The hell of this, all of that.

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Like people keep getting

murdered outside of my unit and

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they're like, let's only yours.

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. Yeah.

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We've had such a, like, I mean, in

almost two decades, there, there's

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been such a funny cast of characters

it's coming in and out, but in COVID.

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We all really, I feel like that's

cemented so many relationships.

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Yeah.

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So , Alex and I live kind of like at the

end of this hallway and there's 4 1, 2.

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Yeah.

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There's a full.

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Uh, there's four units on our

hallway, three of which are

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occupied by people who've been

there, for the same amount of time.

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And then there's this one unit that

this professional athlete lived in.

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, and during COVID we all were, you

know, following the rules and social

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distancing in our hallway turned

into the party spot of COVID.

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And we would just like, bring our

chairs outside and our bottles of wine.

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And, , Alex, do you work

at what a print shop?

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What do you, how do you describe.

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That's a photography.

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Do.

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It's an all-in-one shop for photography.

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, rentals, , sales and printing.

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Okay, cool.

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So printing is where it came in handy

because I created a logo for our hallway

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and Alex printed, literally an official

sign and we would call it the lounge.

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And when the lounge was open, we would

just pop up that sign and neighbors knew

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they could come and bring their drinks.

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And , we had so much fun.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, that was great.

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Yeah.

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That was one of the highlights

of COVID for me, for sure.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I really missed that.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I guess there's no

reason we can't do it again.

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Right, right.

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We have one neighbor who was the

bartender and like house manager who

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I think would be really into, she

had like a, , what are those called?

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Like those sandwich boards, where she

would do like drink specials and stuff.

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That was hilarious.

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It was so funny.

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Like we really, I mean, all of us,

I guess, had a lot of time on our

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hands, but, , I really appreciate how

everyone had a unique offering to

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bring to the table in that scenario.

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, But I think the best nights were

when all of the dogs were out

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and it was just like a dog party.

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There is so wonderful.

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Yeah.

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, so I hope other people got, I know

COVID was really rough in a lot of

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ways, but I hope other people have

like little glimpses of enjoyment

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throughout a global pandemic.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, I hope that the unit

on the other side of me goes

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up for sale at some point, and

then I can knock that wall down.

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I think it would be amazing.

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Hmm.

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That'd be.

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Yeah, I so rarely hear you other

than Alex did have one annoying

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girlfriend for a couple of minutes.

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Oh, God.

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Oh, yeah.

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Sorry to re-traumatize you.

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That was, that was rough for both of us,

but I also had an annoying boyfriend.

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So I feel like those

cancel each other out.

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, but I, there was one time recently

where you were being super loud.

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Maybe it was two years ago.

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, but I'm like, what are you doing?

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Could you like, oh, I'm just

building a climbing wall.

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Yeah.

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Um, some ADHD projects that

I just like will wander.

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Kind of wonder into and yeah, well, Yeah.

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Kind of went probably should've,

you know, talked to somebody first.

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That was okay.

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I, what does that expression like?

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I'd rather ask for forgiveness

than beg for permission.

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Yeah.

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Something like that.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, I say, go for it.

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Yeah.

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Is it still up, , do you use it?

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I ended up taking it down cause

I had my whole place repainted.

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Oh, that happened afterwards.

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Okay.

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Yeah, it was just, I just left it down

and now I think if I do it again, um,

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I'm going to go with a company that,

that pre makes them oh, Like put

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it up against the wall and then like

fold it down when I want to use it for

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just to have like a cave to climb on.

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Ooh, that's awesome.

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But then again, I climb, I go

to a climbing gym regularly.

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Anyway.

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Well, if I'm already paying for

a membership for that, then.

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I can just go do that instead.

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That's fair.

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Yeah.

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But it is really fucking cool

to have that in your house.

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It's free.

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Awesome.

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Yeah.

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I have a pull up bar and oh, really?

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Rings like gymnastics rings.

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Yeah, a little bit to try to

train my body a little bit.

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I've.

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A friend of mine

introduced me to all that.

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And I haven't looked back.

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I love it.

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It's cause I've never been

really good with a , structured

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working out like we're.

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Okay.

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It will pick up this weight now.

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Uh, pick it up and put it

down on this many times.

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No.

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You know, take a risk

and do this and that.

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And like, it never works for me.

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So yeah, it's not mentally stimulating.

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But with climbing, I was like, okay.

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I can look at it's a puzzle.

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I have to figure out how to get

my body on the top of the wall.

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And then I can, my back back.

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Back problem.

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So like I climb up and climb back

down and all, everybody else in there

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look out to the top and jump off.

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And, and I just, I can't, I

can't risk it, so yeah, but

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it's such a great workout too.

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Uh, to go up and down.

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Well, and that's like very cool.

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Yeah.

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It's a lot of fun.

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I love that.

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, so, okay.

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You've referenced that you have ADHD and

that you get into these projects, and

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that is kind of the reason that I wanted

to bring you on and chat today, Alex.

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, other than the fact that I just enjoy

you and you're the best neighbor ever.

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, you have started something cool as fuck.

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, Can you share with people

what you're up to these days?

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So , I pull, uh, Uh,

trailer behind my bicycle.

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I put magnets on the bottom and I

use it to pick up nails and screws.

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So our tires won't have to.

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Ah, that's such a good little succinct.

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This is what I do.

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, we had a roofing project in our community.

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, it was like how many

years ago was that now?

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Like two or three years ago.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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, But I think everyone got

a nail in their tire.

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Like it was just.

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Oh, I'm gonna go into my, in my shoes.

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So close to my foot.

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Like it.

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Got stuck in my shoe.

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I was wearing barefoot shoes and

they, oh, that's your first problem.

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Not the toes one.

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Oh, okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you for clarifying.

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I immediately picture toe shoes.

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Uh, but to be fair, I wouldn't

put, you passed out in class.

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That's that's totally fair.

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Yeah, I do think also though, maybe

you could pull it off if anybody could.

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I don't know.

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He tells them to cricket.

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I'm learning so much about you.

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, so yeah, so if you live in Atlanta and

I don't know if this applies to all

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Metro cities or if it's, this is an

Atlanta specific thing, you've either

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gotten a nail in your tire or you're

going to get a nail in your tire.

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They're everywhere.

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Like I'm a little OCD.

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Like every time I ride, if I see a nail

or something in the road that like could

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be hazardous, I'll stop and pick it up.

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That's awesome.

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Thank you all over Atlanta.

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I'm like looking down the road,

like just every five feet.

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There's a nail.

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Yeah.

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There's something in the road.

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That's just gonna ruin somebody's day.

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And I was like, okay.

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Yes.

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And then I realize I have

to find a better way.

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And I love that.

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And I just like, cause like first started

coming with the idea, during COVID.

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Oh, wow.

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A long time coming.

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Yeah, because I was, , ride

my motorcycle because I, for

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five years I had motorcycles.

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, but I've gotten several flat tires and.

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That's the worst on the motorcycle

and during COVID, I was, authorized

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to, to be outside and work

and drive around and stuff.

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So.

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I wait, how well I had a special

like written note notice from my

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work that I'm, , an essential worker.

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Oh, drive around and stuff.

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And I swear I was picking up every

single nail and screw in my tires.

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Yeah of my car because I got multiple

flat tires in each of my tires

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for multiple, like it was crazy.

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Oh, I kept pulling them out.

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And uh, and I mean, I can fix my

own flats and repair them, but yeah.

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It was ridiculous.

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Like where are all these

things coming from?

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It was crazy.

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So, uh, like all entrepreneurs, you

saw a problem and you were like, , why

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shouldn't I be the one to fix that?

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It's like nobody else is doing.

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I'm sure.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So how many iterations, like, like

talk to me about the whole process

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of, of physically creating this?

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So, I like pulling the trailer behind

the bicycle and I initially just found a

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way of putting a flat bar on the bottom.

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That's adjustable that

can change the height.

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, And then I was, , this is right

now on my fifth or sixth iteration.

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Oh, wow.

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It's.

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Now I found a way.

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Okay.

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It's.

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I put them at an angle and I have

a lot more magnets I did before.

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And then recently I just

added a brush to it.

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So that would, that kinda kicks up the,

the stuff so that it's more likely to get

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sucked into the magnetic field, which is.

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Drastically improved the

amount that I pick up.

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Yeah.

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I saw on your Instagram that you

would like you weigh the amount

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of debris that you pick up.

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And what's the most you've

ever picked up in one ride.

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, uSually six pounds is

what I've been getting.

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And on average lately.

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Wow.

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So I did 10 miles the other day on

Sunday, and I picked up six pounds.

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Oh, my, and then I did 10 more miles the

next day and picked up six more pounds.

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And it's just like,

this is, this is crazy.

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It's unreal.

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Yeah.

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And so it's all sitting in trash

cans in my, in my house right now.

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And I'm trying to figure out.

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What to do with them.

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Like I thought it'd be really cool to melt

it all down and make some art out of it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Or I had another idea, like

maybe I can make a tool.

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Like I could.

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Make some sort of like long

mace or something like putting

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magnets on the end of it.

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So I can just swing it around

and pick up nails as I drive by.

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Whoa.

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That's like very,

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Madmax oh yeah, yeah.

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that would be badass as fuck.

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Yeah, that'd be, that'd be fun.

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Yeah.

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Like, who's this masked man with this

lasso of nails driving around Atlanta.

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You also, this is super cool.

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Alex has one of those, like

standup, what are those called?

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Like elliptical bikes.

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It's a standup bike.

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It's a it's from a

company called Ellipta go.

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Yeah.

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And they make stand up bikes.

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So I injured my spine.

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, about 12 years ago.

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And where are you doing

something fun when it happened?

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I was on a scooter.

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Oh, uh, over near on hella

mill, near the waterworks.

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And there's this car behind me.

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That was like right on me.

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And I was trying to signal for him

to pass me along the straightaway.

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And he, he wouldn't and then, okay.

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We get up to the curve.

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I start going and leading into

the curve and suddenly there's

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this car right there on my side.

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Oh my God.

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And I panicked.

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And I, and I pull over to the

right and I hit the curb , and.

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Fell off and tumbled.

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Oh.

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And it wasn't for like eight months

for the pain to really set in that I

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had, , had a herniated disc that was

pressing up against my side nerve.

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Oh my God.

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And it was, , causing my

entire leg to go numb.

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Oh my God.

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And , the doctor said if I hadn't had

surgery that eventually had completely

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lose the use of my leg surgery, it is.

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Okay.

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So now , I have to be

really, really careful.

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Because after the surgery, I couldn't

wait to get back on a bicycle.

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Yeah.

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, but it took me a while.

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Like every few months I kept hurting

my back more and more, and I couldn't

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figure out like, what am I doing?

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It took me awhile to realize

that sitting on the seat in.

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Been pedaling and hitting bumps

at certain angles could cause.

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You know, The vertebrata.

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Touch or whatever, or something

to happen where it causes a lot of

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inflammation and it's very painful.

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Okay.

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We don't want that.

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I tried a, tadpole

trike a recumbent trike.

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that nothing's a lot of fun.

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It's.

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I remember it.

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It was like a go-cart.

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Alex Parks, all of his crazy

vehicles down our hallway.

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And like, everyday I come out, I'm

like, what the fuck is this thing?

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Like you, it's just some new, cool thing.

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I didn't know existed.

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And I'm just like, man, this is awesome.

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I've considered myself

a peddling connoisseur.

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Ooh.

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I also, , this past summer I

got a, a kayak with a, , Pillar.

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, that you pedal like a bicycle and

lean back, and it's a propeller

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that spins on the bottom.

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You can have like, And I use it too.

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To go up the river.

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And then when I get tired, I

pull up the propeller and just

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coast back down to my car.

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It's awesome.

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That is really cool.

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Peaceful and quiet on the river.

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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Do you do the Chattahoochee?

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Okay.

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Yeah, I've been, I've been going to

all the different, boat drop-ins where

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you can go and yeah, it's been fun.

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I really like it.

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That's so smart because I have a kayak

and I never use it because I would

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like don't have any way to kayak with.

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, but it's like, you got to drop in and

drop out and I'm like one person, one car

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it's like so annoying, if not impossible.

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So that's really smart.

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You've life act, solar.

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With a Repeller.

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I just go up the river and then it's.

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Yeah, it's awesome.

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You are a peddling connoisseur.

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That's fucking awesome.

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Thanks.

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, so, okay.

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You've got these multiple iterations

of your backnet situation.

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, and you do like critical mass

and like you're very active

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in the peddling community.

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Yeah.

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, is this something you could see

turning into a product that you

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would sell or having other people

maybe attach this to their bikes so

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that this becomes a more widespread.

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Social service.

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I would like it to be, I don't know

about it being something I could

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sell because the, there are other

companies that already make these,

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magnetic pickup things, but they're

meant to be, I mean, there are large.

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And they're meant to hang from the

front of your car or something, and

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you travel about three, four miles per

hour to pick up stuff on your property.

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They're not intended for going 20 miles

an hour behind a bicycle down the road.

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Got.

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Got it.

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I needed to make it so that when I go

over bumps, it needs to be able to hit.

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Uh, bumper scraped along the

ground and not break off magnets.

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Not.

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It needs to be flexible enough to.

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To sort of bounce back into position.

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Yeah.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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So you've just added the brush and

that's significantly impacted the amount

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of pickup that you're doing crazy.

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How much?

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Yeah, it was just a random idea.

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All right.

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I mean a good one.

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Are there other ideas you have

of like, oh, next I'm going

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to try, blah, blah, blah.

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Like, so there's a company I found in

Portland and they have the same problem.

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So he did.

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Okay.

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Another guy there took

a different approach.

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He created , an actual street sweeper.

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Oh like , a spinning brush on the bottom.

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This.

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It's battery operated

that you, same thing.

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It's a trailer.

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You pull behind your bicycle.

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Okay.

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, that's about three feet

wide and you can just.

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Right around town and pick up

gravel and glass and, and, and

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everything else along the trail.

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, the bike path.

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Yeah.

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, and so I contacted them, , because they,

they have some prototypes and they haven't

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quite fully developed their product yet.

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Okay.

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And I got in contact with him

and there he's gonna sell me, uh,

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one of their prototype models.

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Oh, cool.

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That's going to be the next thing I do.

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I'm going to try to figure out how

I, if I can maybe attach magnets

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to that too, if it doesn't pick

up the heavier magnetic stuff.

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Yeah.

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But I think it'd be a lot of fun

to, to take that around town.

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Well, it was just so amusing to

see like how many different facets

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of this you can explore, you know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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, what's the craziest thing

you've ever picked up because

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I assume it's more than nails.

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Uh, well, not crazy.

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I mean, I guess just, , The

tools tools that I still use now.

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Screwdrivers.

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And , vice grips and okay.

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, you know, pliers and things like that.

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Wow.

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So these are strong magnets.

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Oh yeah.

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They're, they're really powerful.

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There are new DIMIA magnets

that are like, yeah, it's crazy.

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Like how difficult it can be to

remove the stuff I've picked up.

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Oh, that's going to be my next thing.

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I have to try to figure out.

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Cause like most of the

magnetic pickups have a little.

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Thing you press on it to

re like, Pushes a bar down.

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So all the magnetic stuff falls off.

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Okay.

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And right now I'm pulling it all off by

hand, but yeah, but it's just so far all

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my experiments with trying to get the.

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Magnets to work.

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It was experimenting with ways to pull

off the magnets without, , without

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putting in so much extra work.

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Right.

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And doing it by hand because I had to.

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We have to wear magnets and wrap

them up and tape so that I don't.

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, poke myself with, with very,

very tiny iron filings and stuff.

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Ooh, God, that's true.

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Sticking my skin in

this really like, yeah.

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It's it's pretty painful, but I'm sure.

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But, yeah, that's just a

small, small price to pay for.

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For less nails on the road.

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I mean, thank you for your service.

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It is funny.

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When you first kind of started doing

this, you would, you know, get home and

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have your bike out in our little hallway.

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And if I would go out to walk

my dogs, they'd be so curious.

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And I looked closer and I'm

like, whoa, , don't smell that.

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They're like, Ooh.

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Sharp objects.

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As soon as I saw that with the

dogs, like, okay, I have to do

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this inside my place because.

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, I don't want any of this falling on

the ground and getting into their paws.

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That's thank you.

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That's.

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Yeah.

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Very considerate and Archer

and Luna appreciated.

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I'm sure.

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But they also are like, he's my dog, like

Alex, more than they like me, like the

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way that Luna wiggles, when she says.

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Our other neighbor's dog.

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Yeah, God.

534

I mean, you're like the dog whisper.

535

Really offensive to me as their mom.

536

They're like, I sometimes I'll drop

my dogs leashes at the end of our

537

hallway and let them just run to my

door except they run to your door.

538

But, , I think they know that you're

conscientious about them and oh,

539

They pick up on the vibe, I guess.

540

One of my favorite things about like

Archer is that cause he's, he's, you

541

know, Hates everything and everybody.

542

Yeah.

543

And then put heat.

544

He shows his affection for me

by like leaning his whole body.

545

It's like a full body hug.

546

Yeah.

547

Yeah, it's the sweetest thing ever.

548

He's such a good guy.

549

I will say, you know, he turned

14 in November, which is insane.

550

Oh my God.

551

Today's Luna's birthday.

552

I'm glad we're talking about this today.

553

Luna's 12.

554

, well, I know in that crazy, cause

you knew both of like, I I've known

555

you longer than I've known my dogs.

556

That's crazy.

557

, but Archer as a puppy was a very, Hmm.

558

He had some behavioral issues.

559

He was just, uh, a little punk.

560

, but now in his, in his old

age, he has softened and he's

561

like, definitely a lot sweeter.

562

I had a friend over the other night

and I was like, I still, to this day,

563

when I have new people over, I'm like,

just ignore Archer for like, you.

564

You know, let them warm up to you.

565

Dah, dah, dah.

566

But , it's been a long time since

we've had any sort of, , issues.

567

That's good.

568

So good.

569

14 years later, we got this.

570

, so, okay, so you are

picking up all of the stuff.

571

How often are you going

out and doing this?

572

, so I started the project , in July.

573

Okay.

574

And , it took me a couple

months to collect 50 pounds.

575

Oh, wow.

576

And then a friend of mine

who had been in a really bad.

577

Bicycle accident.

578

, she.

579

Wanted to get back out in the community

and riding the group rides again,

580

but she's still really nervous.

581

And , she was ready to get back

on a bicycle, but was really

582

nervous to be in the group.

583

Yeah.

584

But she had the idea of

like, well, what if I can.

585

What if I sit in your trailer?

586

And I could be around everybody

and, and go and go around and

587

just do this one thing one time.

588

Yeah.

589

That's so cute.

590

Yeah.

591

And so I, I removed all the magnets.

592

I reinforced the trailer to make sure

that it was safe for her to sit on.

593

Yeah.

594

And then after the ride,

it was, it was great.

595

She had a wonderful time and then she.

596

Got her confidence back to,

to go back on the rides again.

597

Oh my God.

598

I love it.

599

Make a wish.

600

And.

601

So, yeah, so then I, I took all the

magnets off for that and I didn't put them

602

back on again until, , until December.

603

Oh, On December 23rd,

I, , One of the group ride.

604

I.

605

reassembled everything.

606

Okay.

607

And so from the December 23rd, until like

last week, within 10 days I had collected.

608

, 50 pounds.

609

I'm like, so you've collected a

hundred pounds, total, a hundred

610

pounds total, but the first 50

pounds took me a couple months.

611

The next 50 pounds took me 10 days.

612

Because of the newest, latest, change

I made in the, in the orientation

613

and position of the magnets.

614

Wow.

615

Are you, do you realize how cool this is?

616

Like, are you proud of yourself?

617

I am actually.

618

So much fun.

619

And it's like, I really,

really enjoy doing it.

620

Cause I really, really, one of my

favorite things to do in the world

621

is like to help out and do things.

622

And like, especially when

like nobody's looking.

623

Yeah.

624

Like, oh, I'll go.

625

And I'll spend my day like cleaning

up trash and just go do it by myself.

626

And it's like, who cares?

627

I mean, I'm just like, yeah,

cause there's just a nice person.

628

I like, I really like

helping out whenever I can.

629

But I'm not asking for anything in return.

630

I just don't like.

631

But then I thought, well,

this has kind of grown.

632

And the popularity of

it has grown so much.

633

And, and I was like, well, maybe I

could like do a patron or something.

634

I don't know.

635

Yeah.

636

Yeah.

637

So, you know, it's been all my.

638

Spent my own money to

putting all this together.

639

Totally.

640

Yeah.

641

That's part of the reason that I wanted to

have you on here is that I, I know that we

642

have people listening who would be a, just

impressed and amused by what you're doing.

643

But also I think that people.

644

There's gotta be a collective gratitude

for what you're doing, because like I

645

said earlier, I mean, we have all had

nails in our tires, living in the city.

646

They're everywhere.

647

This is a huge deal and just

regular old street sweeping.

648

Isn't doing it.

649

Okay.

650

Taking your truck down to

a street four times a year.

651

Which that's the schedule Atlanta

apparently like, you're kidding.

652

They do.

653

Every street, four times a year.

654

If that, yeah, it's awful.

655

Oh my God.

656

And it's in when the, the truck

goes by, like I, whenever I see them

657

working, like they're kicking out more.

658

They're not actually picking anything up.

659

Yeah.

660

Just putting it to the

gutters all over the place.

661

Anyway.

662

I don't know.

663

I always feel like there there's gotta

be a better way than I feel like the

664

city of Atlanta should be giving you

a check every month to be doing this.

665

I always thought like, Because I've

been wondering about, you know,

666

what am I going to do in my future?

667

I kind of, at some point

when you grew up right.

668

When I grow up, I want to have

maybe a career change of some kind.

669

Yeah.

670

It's something different and, and

I thought it'd be fun to, well, I

671

dunno, maybe I could try applying to.

672

I work in the cleanup crew.

673

Atlanta and figure out.

674

Then I could figure out from the

inside why they can't do better.

675

, but I don't know.

676

I don't know.

677

I really don't know how all that works.

678

It's more of a dream than.

679

Because this is something I enjoy doing.

680

I.

681

Like, why not do it?

682

I'm going to do something.

683

That helps professionally.

684

Yeah.

685

, well, I can confirm personally that.

686

When you follow those sparks, there

is a reward at the end of that.

687

And so I would say like, just absolutely

keep doing this, keep exploring it.

688

And I think that if it's, this is a path

that you're meant to be on, but it seems

689

like literally it is, those opportunities

will probably just fall in your lap

690

and it'll just be like, oh, this is it.

691

You know?

692

And I think a lot of people like.

693

It doesn't matter how old you

are or what your career is or

694

how long you've been doing it.

695

I think it's so fun to fantasize

about like, well, what if I did this?

696

Or like, do I have another act in my life?

697

And if so, what does that look like?

698

Yeah.

699

So, this is really cool.

700

What's your next update to it?

701

Do you know?

702

Well, I'm, I'm putting together,

uh, A second trailer right now.

703

Oh, different.

704

The Heights difference have to

change some things a little bit.

705

It's going to be pretty

much the same configuration.

706

Okay.

707

But, , just, you know, something

that I don't feel like it's going to

708

fall apart in the next few minutes.

709

Yeah.

710

It's my current bicycle trailers and

older one that I've had for years, that

711

I've been decided to add this stuff to.

712

Okay.

713

And so I'm going to try again.

714

So, is this something that you could do

on a bigger scale and put behind your car?

715

I don't think so.

716

Okay.

717

So like, I have good.

718

Milan on several occasions when

I've not been paying attention

719

or just get lost in thought.

720

And my ADHD moment.

721

I will sometimes fail to notice

a metal plate or a manual.

722

Duck myself to a manhole cover before.

723

Especially if there's traffic behind me.

724

Oh shit.

725

And I'm sure people who don't

realize what they're looking at.

726

All right.

727

What the fuck broke it off the road.

728

Exactly.

729

Especially in Atlanta.

730

So like last Friday I left work.

731

, it was dark and , I took a left turn

and didn't see the manhole cover.

732

And luckily I didn't get stuck, but.

733

About eight or so magnets

stuck to the metal cover.

734

And I had to walk back out

into the middle of the road.

735

I really wish I recorded

myself doing this.

736

Like I had to.

737

Evidence.

738

I get run over right.

739

At the time it cause

it's a pretty busy road.

740

I had to time it.

741

Perfectly between the lights to go.

742

And get on my hands and knees and try to

scrape these very powerful magnets off of.

743

Have a manhole cover.

744

Holy shit, because I couldn't

just pull them off with my hands.

745

I had to like scrape them off.

746

Whoa.

747

Whoa.

748

I had to do them like one at a time.

749

For like 20 minutes.

750

Oh, my God.

751

Because I just didn't

want to get run over.

752

Right.

753

And this may be a dumb question.

754

Are these magnets, how expensive are they?

755

They're , $16 each.

756

Okay.

757

The largest, one's within

reasonable price.

758

Then I could find on Amazon.

759

So.

760

Gotcha.

761

And so right now I have 38 magnets.

762

Oh, wow.

763

Just ordered 10 more.

764

So I'm going to be adding more because

it's just more, magnets means more

765

things I can more coverage, more.

766

Yeah.

767

I never even thought about the numerous

plentiful steel plates on our roads.

768

Yeah, there is crazy.

769

They're everywhere.

770

Yeah.

771

Wow.

772

Okay.

773

What other, , any other like,

, snafoos or mishaps or close

774

calls that have come from this?

775

Like, , Well, I guess, yeah.

776

I have picked up a few

nails myself with tires.

777

Yeah.

778

But that's, that's like, I know

it's going to happen anyway.

779

Okay.

780

So, Yeah, other than sticking,

sticking myself to the ground.

781

That's kind of the main one.

782

I'm sure.

783

You'll think of something later and

be like, Mara, why didn't I say that?

784

That's okay.

785

, is this something that you

can do, in all seasons?

786

Yes.

787

Yeah.

788

Yeah, I go, I ride a ride, the bicycle.

789

, all the time, like I love the

workout from the Ellipta go.

790

It took me.

791

It's such an incredible workout.

792

It's a full body.

793

You're standing up the whole time.

794

It took me . Five months to

go one mile without stopping.

795

Oh, wow.

796

Yeah.

797

I had to completely retrain

my whole body for it.

798

And now I can just go for miles and miles

and miles and, and, and it's incredible.

799

That's so cool.

800

And so, yeah, I figured, well,

if I'm already out there riding

801

just for fun and working out.

802

You know, like, Who

cares about extra weight?

803

I can pull the trailer and not

be doing something productive

804

while I'm, while I'm writing.

805

I love a multitask.

806

Have you found through pursuing this?

807

Like, , is this a way that you have

found your people in entering the

808

cycling community and, , w well,

I had already, , had discovered.

809

This bicycling group called mid-week role.

810

Okay.

811

I was leaving the.

812

I was heading home from the climbing gym.

813

And saw this big group of people and I

stopped and asked what, what was going on.

814

And they're like, oh

yeah, we're midweek roll.

815

Yeah, come on and join us.

816

And.

817

And it's been just magical ever since.

818

I met some of the most wonderful

people I've ever met in

819

Atlanta, in my entire life.

820

That's awesome.

821

And now I get to hang out with

all these wonderful people.

822

Yeah, it took me a very long time to like,

you know, the opportunity was there too.

823

Okay.

824

Go be social.

825

You can, after the rides and

go hang out and that's what

826

everybody does is hang out.

827

And then, then I just.

828

I would just go home right away for so

many months, the first eight months.

829

I'll just go home.

830

I was too nervous to

I'm like you I'm like.

831

An introvert do.

832

And I had been seeing a therapist for a

little while and he, he recommended it.

833

He just said, it's like, just

don't even, don't even worry about.

834

Just go.

835

Have you tried just not

fucking worry about it.

836

Exactly.

837

Well, thanks.

838

Here's $200.

839

And that's on therapy, everybody.

840

Just don't fucking worry about it.

841

Okay.

842

So.

843

Well, what he said.

844

This is like, well, go ask to

sit down next to some people.

845

Yeah, I sit down with them.

846

It's like, what's the

worst that can happen.

847

You know, go try it.

848

Yeah.

849

And I did that and I could

not have chosen a better.

850

Couple of people.

851

Good to ask who they instantly

made me feel welcome.

852

And instantly, like we were

wondering about you, like.

853

I'm wondering, like we were wondering

when you're going to come hang out.

854

It's just been.

855

Blissful, just happiness ever since of

just feeling like I'm part of a community.

856

I'm like I'm welcomed, suddenly

realized like, okay, there's no.

857

I'm like.

858

Being depressed for no reason.

859

From a point, a certain

point, I have to like.

860

I only have myself to blame for, for.

861

Holding myself back.

862

Well, if you keep repeating

the same habits and getting

863

you'll get the same results.

864

Make yourself uncomfortable.

865

, I'm sure that hearkens back, like

everyone's fear of like where to

866

sit at the lunch room table on

the first day of school, or like

867

getting chosen for kickball teams.

868

And I, for years had insane

social anxiety and absolutely as

869

you get past your schooling ages

and you're just an adult, making

870

new friends is really difficult.

871

I mean, I have conversations with people

all the time about that and you know,

872

you have life changes, people become

parents or whatever the thing is.

873

And it's just really

hard to Find your people.

874

So this is such a beautiful example

of how truly just pursuing something

875

that you're passionate about.

876

I will lead you to your flock.

877

Yeah, exactly.

878

Yeah.

879

Yeah.

880

, has your therapist given you any

other great tips you'd like to share?

881

No, , I missed a couple of appointments.

882

And the night.

883

I stopped going and I need to go back.

884

Yeah.

885

But I love therapy.

886

I think when you get the right

therapist, it's unbelievable what you

887

can uncover about yourself and the

changes that you can make in your life.

888

But I do think it obviously

has to be a good fit.

889

That's a magical thing though.

890

Yeah, well, he was great.

891

It was just an hour away and

it was, it was hard to get to.

892

Yeah.

893

Yeah, that was prohibited for me.

894

I.

895

Let me just do it over the phone,

but yeah, I I've done, , like

896

Skype therapy and I love it.

897

Cause I'm like, you can't be late.

898

I better make sure your computer's

charged and everything's fine.

899

Yeah.

900

I love that.

901

, okay, so you have pursued this passion.

902

You're helping the city.

903

While helping yourself.

904

It's pretty cool.

905

, any other like.

906

Ahas or just kind of cool

side effects of this.

907

, I guess I wasn't really expecting when

I first started doing this, I didn't.

908

I wasn't expecting this fanfare.

909

Around it.

910

That there would be this that'd

be so popular to do this.

911

And this is like really eyeopening.

912

I love that our people

stop you all the time.

913

Like, Hey man, what the fuck is happening?

914

I had somebody, , yesterday,

, over Monroe in Ponce who.

915

He like, I guess he could tell

what I was doing, saw the thing

916

on there and you thanked me.

917

We stopped like, Hey man,

I see what you're doing.

918

That's awesome.

919

Thank you so much.

920

I'm like, oh, wow.

921

You're welcome.

922

Thank you.

923

I wonder if you need like a sign

on the back of your trailer with

924

like your Venmo or something.

925

Like I thought about I'm going to put a

little note on the back that has like a

926

QR code for the Instagram or something.

927

Yeah.

928

That's really smart.

929

And you are not a social media

person, but you recently decided

930

to create an account for this.

931

So can we share with people

where they can find you and

932

they can follow your adventures?

933

Yeah.

934

So it's a Atlanta magnet, man.

935

, at Gmail or sorry.

936

is that also your email address though?

937

No.

938

It was.

939

Sometimes it can't make words happen.

940

Totally good.

941

Instagram is what I meant.

942

Okay, Atlanta.

943

magnet man on Instagram.

944

, are you on, do you do like tech talks

or anything else like that, or just no.

945

Just Instagram so far.

946

The two essentials.

947

That's awesome.

948

Well, yeah, I, so it's funny, like,

obviously I've seen your bike and your

949

trailer in the hallway and I've talked

to you about what you're doing, but

950

I don't think I realized how advanced

it was and how much ground you were

951

covering literally until one of our

other neighbors were we're so lucky

952

the coolest fucking people live in

our neighborhood, but one of our other

953

neighbors, , who has a pretty popular

account shared your new Instagram account.

954

And I was like, I couldn't believe.

955

Yeah.

956

It's just, I made the account

and , he was just like, Hey, I need

957

you to make that account so I can

go ahead and make a post about it.

958

That's awesome.

959

So I went ahead and made the account

and then put something on there.

960

And then within 24 hours at 120 followers.

961

That's amazing.

962

Yeah.

963

Like my podcast has 120 followers

and it's been like months.

964

But it's really, I mean, social

media is so difficult and it's like

965

creating hype and creating, following.

966

And doing it authentically.

967

I talk about this in so many episodes.

968

It's something that I really struggle

with and I also just don't care.

969

So it's like, Like the consistency,

but this feels like something

970

where , you just naturally are

going to get so much content by just

971

documenting what you're already doing.

972

Yeah.

973

Well, the thing I'm kind of

worried about is like, All right.

974

Well, most of the, well, I have

pictures of what I'm picking up.

975

And, you know, I can make a video

of me pulling it off, but then

976

it doesn't seem like there's a

whole lot more content there.

977

You may be surprised.

978

Hmm, you may be surprised.

979

I think that,

980

Even if it's just on, I mean, think about

people who have food channels, you're all

981

you're doing is cooking, but every time

you're cooking something different, you

982

know, and things are like a little, yeah.

983

There's lots of food.

984

So there's lots of shit to pick

up with your magnets, you know?

985

Um, so I think that's okay.

986

I think that's okay.

987

And the inspiration obviously is flowing.

988

So I think you'll have more ideas.

989

Okay.

990

Yeah.

991

I put a GoPro on the bottom.

992

Ooh.

993

You're like, so tech savvy.

994

Right.

995

The magnet slick.

996

Do its thing.

997

Oh, my God.

998

That's like real time.

999

worthy.

00:35:21,638 --> 00:35:23,378

Oh, do you do audio with it?

00:35:24,098 --> 00:35:24,728

Yeah, there was audit.

00:35:24,728 --> 00:35:25,748

Well, it's just, I mean, it's.

00:35:26,468 --> 00:35:29,708

Yeah, but it's just the audio that's

onboard on the, but I could see,

00:35:29,708 --> 00:35:32,438

I need to go back and look at your

videos, but I could see you do like

00:35:32,918 --> 00:35:34,448

that being a segment that's like.

00:35:34,778 --> 00:35:38,348

The magnet AMR, and just like

the wording of the tires and.

00:35:38,438 --> 00:35:39,548

Like click, click clicks of the.

00:35:39,578 --> 00:35:40,358

The nails or whatever.

00:35:40,478 --> 00:35:43,508

Tinking sound that, that, that certain

clicking sound it makes when I, I

00:35:43,508 --> 00:35:45,848

can hear it when I know that pick

something out, because it gives me a

00:35:45,848 --> 00:35:49,208

little dopamine boost every time I'm

picturing, like in Mario, when you jump

00:35:49,208 --> 00:35:53,588

up under the brick box and you get the

little coin and it's like, That's how

00:35:53,588 --> 00:35:54,848

I would feel everything I picked up.

00:35:56,228 --> 00:35:57,038

That's so awesome.

00:35:57,068 --> 00:35:57,278

Yeah.

00:35:57,818 --> 00:35:58,208

, cool.

00:35:58,298 --> 00:36:01,638

Well, is there anything else around

this topic that you want to share.

00:36:02,248 --> 00:36:02,698

I mean.

00:36:02,888 --> 00:36:04,088

, cycling humidity.

00:36:04,131 --> 00:36:04,371

Is.

00:36:04,438 --> 00:36:05,638

The one of the best communities.

00:36:05,968 --> 00:36:07,348

I've ever come across.

00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:07,948

Yeah.

00:36:08,248 --> 00:36:08,758

In Atlanta.

00:36:09,148 --> 00:36:11,998

I love that kindest sweetest

people I've ever met.

00:36:12,058 --> 00:36:12,538

Yeah.

00:36:12,808 --> 00:36:16,568

And I highly recommend anybody, , w

who was like-minded to, , to.

00:36:17,408 --> 00:36:18,968

To find some groups around Atlanta.

00:36:19,298 --> 00:36:20,318

I think that's great advice.

00:36:20,588 --> 00:36:25,448

, just a really funny, quick story that just

reminded me of, , I recently accidentally

00:36:25,448 --> 00:36:26,918

went on a date with a Republican.

00:36:28,118 --> 00:36:28,418

I know.

00:36:29,618 --> 00:36:32,168

I'm trying to, I'm trying

to update outside my type.

00:36:33,048 --> 00:36:33,318

, yeah.

00:36:33,498 --> 00:36:36,888

Uh, that was an error, but I ended

up getting in a fight with him

00:36:36,888 --> 00:36:39,918

at the bar because he was talking

about how much he hated cyclists.

00:36:40,278 --> 00:36:43,328

And I got into literally a

screaming match with him about it.

00:36:43,408 --> 00:36:46,318

, I was like, you drive a Tesla,

like, how do you hate cyclists?

00:36:46,348 --> 00:36:47,368

And he was like, wow.

00:36:47,488 --> 00:36:49,168

So for the fucking environment.

00:36:49,198 --> 00:36:54,478

And I was like, Ooh, He was the worst

person, but I was just like, cycling is

00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:58,948

so important, whether it's for pleasure,

whether it's for commuting, like so many

00:36:58,948 --> 00:37:02,638

major cities, you can't even afford to

have a one bedroom apartment on minimum

00:37:02,638 --> 00:37:04,558

wage in the city that you work in.

00:37:04,678 --> 00:37:07,498

Some people bike as their only

method of transportation to get to.

00:37:07,498 --> 00:37:11,758

And from work, it's so important to

live in a city that allows people to

00:37:11,758 --> 00:37:15,628

get where they need to go via different

means of transportation, especially

00:37:15,628 --> 00:37:18,568

when you're somewhere like Atlanta, that

doesn't have good public transportation.

00:37:18,598 --> 00:37:18,718

Yeah.

00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:20,278

Th there's.

00:37:20,278 --> 00:37:22,888

So Atlanta doesn't have good

access for, for a cycling either.

00:37:22,888 --> 00:37:25,528

The road, this side of the road,

where cyclists are supposed to

00:37:25,528 --> 00:37:27,508

go are full of dirt and debris.

00:37:27,538 --> 00:37:28,048

Yeah.

00:37:28,198 --> 00:37:28,918

It's dangerous.

00:37:28,978 --> 00:37:30,088

It's yeah, it's terrible.

00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:30,538

Yeah.

00:37:30,958 --> 00:37:31,378

Yeah.

00:37:32,728 --> 00:37:35,728

And very aggressive drivers to, oh my God.

00:37:36,178 --> 00:37:36,358

Yeah.

00:37:36,448 --> 00:37:38,368

I'm constantly like timing it when I'm.

00:37:39,088 --> 00:37:39,448

Cause I'm.

00:37:40,018 --> 00:37:42,148

Pulling the trailer and going

up along the curb, I'm being

00:37:42,148 --> 00:37:43,618

very, you know, pretty slow.

00:37:43,618 --> 00:37:48,418

So I have to time it, let cars pass me

and then go because people are going so

00:37:48,418 --> 00:37:49,858

fast and they're all on their phones.

00:37:51,418 --> 00:37:52,858

Have you had any close calls?

00:37:53,068 --> 00:37:54,178

Lots of close calls.

00:37:55,318 --> 00:37:57,278

I've been, , I got hit by a car.

00:37:57,388 --> 00:37:58,918

On my way to work in.

00:37:59,608 --> 00:38:00,898

00:38:00,958 --> 00:38:01,558

Oh God.

00:38:01,558 --> 00:38:02,578

Yeah, it was crazy.

00:38:02,578 --> 00:38:05,398

Like I just went halfway down this block.

00:38:05,878 --> 00:38:08,848

And thinking, okay, this car has

plenty of time to make this turn.

00:38:09,298 --> 00:38:10,258

10th 10th and Piedmont.

00:38:10,438 --> 00:38:10,918

Okay.

00:38:11,488 --> 00:38:13,468

And they're like turning onto Piedmont.

00:38:13,858 --> 00:38:15,208

They're going to, you know, okay.

00:38:15,238 --> 00:38:15,448

These.

00:38:15,838 --> 00:38:19,018

I'm approaching this intersection,

thinking this car is going to go.

00:38:19,078 --> 00:38:19,948

And I finally okay.

00:38:19,948 --> 00:38:20,848

I get to the crosswalk.

00:38:20,878 --> 00:38:21,118

Okay.

00:38:21,148 --> 00:38:22,258

I guess they're going to let me go.

00:38:22,618 --> 00:38:24,508

That's when they decided to floor it.

00:38:24,568 --> 00:38:25,258

Ooh.

00:38:25,288 --> 00:38:27,448

And do an extra wide turn.

00:38:27,508 --> 00:38:29,698

I guess they decided to put

their phone down or something.

00:38:30,238 --> 00:38:32,548

And then I slammed on the brakes.

00:38:32,578 --> 00:38:34,408

My front wheel went.

00:38:34,438 --> 00:38:35,248

It was perfect.

00:38:35,248 --> 00:38:36,358

Timing went right.

00:38:37,258 --> 00:38:41,458

In the wheel-well between the wheel

and the, and the, uh, body of the car.

00:38:42,718 --> 00:38:44,158

Threw me down Piedmont.

00:38:44,248 --> 00:38:45,328

Oh my God.

00:38:45,388 --> 00:38:45,808

It was.

00:38:46,288 --> 00:38:46,678

Terrible.

00:38:46,678 --> 00:38:47,608

I landed on my shoulder.

00:38:47,848 --> 00:38:49,018

I broke my shoulder blade.

00:38:49,138 --> 00:38:49,828

Oh, my God.

00:38:49,858 --> 00:38:50,548

Yeah, it was.

00:38:50,608 --> 00:38:52,108

It was awful and yeah.

00:38:52,138 --> 00:38:53,458

And luckily she stopped.

00:38:54,358 --> 00:38:56,818

And then waiting at the

light was a police officer.

00:38:56,878 --> 00:38:57,718

Oh, good.

00:38:57,928 --> 00:38:59,398

He was like a couple of cars back, but.

00:38:59,548 --> 00:39:00,418

Did he see it happen?

00:39:00,448 --> 00:39:04,198

They well, they stopped right away,

but they didn't, it wasn't on camera.

00:39:04,948 --> 00:39:05,188

Yeah.

00:39:05,248 --> 00:39:08,368

Do you have, I know you said you've got

the GoPro underneath now or do you have

00:39:08,368 --> 00:39:11,148

a camera . On a helmet or the front

of your bike or anything like that now

00:39:11,148 --> 00:39:13,398

for future potential issues, should.

00:39:15,648 --> 00:39:18,798

Oh, God, I should have it

full time, but I don't.

00:39:18,828 --> 00:39:19,338

Okay.

00:39:19,668 --> 00:39:21,378

00:39:21,438 --> 00:39:24,558

So a really good idea

was that lady apologetic.

00:39:24,588 --> 00:39:26,208

I'm assuming it's a lady on her phone.

00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:31,248

She was, uh, she, her excuse

was that I came out of nowhere.

00:39:32,058 --> 00:39:34,668

It's like she said, well, he came

out of nowhere and was like, no, she

00:39:34,698 --> 00:39:36,018

got a ticket for failure to yield.

00:39:37,008 --> 00:39:37,638

It doesn't matter.

00:39:37,698 --> 00:39:38,478

You're in a car.

00:39:38,778 --> 00:39:40,758

Yeah, they didn't contest it or anything.

00:39:41,718 --> 00:39:43,548

No problem there, but oh my God, like.

00:39:44,568 --> 00:39:45,228

It was ridiculous.

00:39:45,948 --> 00:39:47,658

Oh, my God people suck.

00:39:47,778 --> 00:39:48,018

Yeah.

00:39:49,188 --> 00:39:52,188

Well, and it's why, I mean, it can be

annoying sometimes, when you're trying

00:39:52,188 --> 00:39:55,458

to get to work and critical masses out

and you're like, that's a lot of cyclists,

00:39:55,458 --> 00:39:56,938

but literal safety and numbers.

00:39:56,938 --> 00:39:57,778

It's really important.

00:39:57,838 --> 00:39:58,138

Yeah.

00:39:58,318 --> 00:39:58,618

Yeah.

00:39:58,738 --> 00:39:59,428

I get that.

00:39:59,728 --> 00:40:01,018

It's not that inconvenient talk.

00:40:01,018 --> 00:40:01,528

I'm in my nice.

00:40:01,798 --> 00:40:02,758

Cozy car.

00:40:02,808 --> 00:40:04,908

I think you just need to

just be chill, everybody.

00:40:06,438 --> 00:40:07,728

Linda has no chill.

00:40:08,408 --> 00:40:08,708

, cool.

00:40:08,768 --> 00:40:09,098

Okay.

00:40:09,098 --> 00:40:12,698

Well, we've shared with people where

they can find you and follow your

00:40:12,698 --> 00:40:16,538

adventures and journeys, which I'm

sure will only, , multiply from here.

00:40:16,758 --> 00:40:19,988

, and then I feel like it would be

fun to every month, share , like

00:40:19,988 --> 00:40:22,328

you're documenting how many

pounds collectively you're picking

00:40:22,328 --> 00:40:23,078

up and all that type of stuff.

00:40:23,078 --> 00:40:23,348

Right.

00:40:23,498 --> 00:40:23,648

Yeah.

00:40:23,708 --> 00:40:26,498

, I'd love you to keep us up to date

with your stats and, , cause it's

00:40:26,498 --> 00:40:28,808

just so fascinating and I think people

would be really intrigued to know.

00:40:28,988 --> 00:40:29,288

Sure.

00:40:29,348 --> 00:40:29,588

Yeah.

00:40:29,648 --> 00:40:29,858

Yeah.

00:40:29,978 --> 00:40:30,908

I'll post more.

00:40:31,268 --> 00:40:31,598

Okay.

00:40:31,658 --> 00:40:31,808

Yeah.

00:40:31,898 --> 00:40:32,138

Yeah.

00:40:32,198 --> 00:40:33,548

Stay on it, stay on it.

00:40:33,548 --> 00:40:34,418

And that you're doing a good thing.

00:40:35,498 --> 00:40:35,828

Awesome.

00:40:35,858 --> 00:40:36,098

Thank you.

00:40:36,278 --> 00:40:36,908

You're welcome.

00:40:37,488 --> 00:40:42,048

. Well, Alex, thank you so, so much for

your time today, I learned so much about

00:40:42,048 --> 00:40:46,818

you and I know that people listening are

going to be so appreciative of your civil

00:40:46,818 --> 00:40:48,498

surface that you're doing for all of us.

00:40:48,748 --> 00:40:54,478

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00:41:15,588 --> 00:41:16,698

Thank you so so much.

00:41:16,728 --> 00:41:17,118

Thank you.

00:41:17,478 --> 00:41:17,928

Bye.

00:41:19,548 --> 00:41:19,998

Yes.

00:41:20,598 --> 00:41:21,198

You did it.

00:41:21,738 --> 00:41:22,128

Great.

00:41:22,218 --> 00:41:22,548

Wow.

00:41:22,578 --> 00:41:23,178

How do you feel.

00:41:23,358 --> 00:41:23,868

I don't know.

00:41:24,558 --> 00:41:25,428

Did I say everything?

00:41:26,358 --> 00:41:27,948

I don't know what you did to say.

00:41:27,978 --> 00:41:29,328

I don't know what I didn't say either.

00:41:30,538 --> 00:41:34,528

The source of Nails and

Screws is not my enemy alone.

00:41:34,578 --> 00:41:37,418

The source is a fight

that all of us must fight.

00:41:37,455 --> 00:41:39,405

With voting and legislation.

00:41:39,475 --> 00:41:42,115

My fight is on the streets of our city.

00:41:42,161 --> 00:41:47,451

I accept that the Nails and Screws exist,

and when the bureaucracy fails us and

00:41:47,451 --> 00:41:52,501

breaks our spirits, we mistakenly believe

that nothing else can be done to fight it.

00:41:52,621 --> 00:41:53,521

This is wrong.

00:41:53,741 --> 00:41:54,981

We are better than this.

00:41:55,076 --> 00:41:59,046

We can lift these nails and screws

from our streets, and prevent them from

00:41:59,046 --> 00:42:01,016

taking that which we hold most dear.

00:42:01,103 --> 00:42:04,586

Our time, our money,

and our precious tires.

00:42:04,753 --> 00:42:07,753

Join me, and we can fight

this fight together.

00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:09,733

This should not be my fight alone.

00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:13,983

I believe that every city in America,

or the entire world, Can have

00:42:13,983 --> 00:42:19,393

magnet men and magnet women and or

magnet persons to help fight this

00:42:19,403 --> 00:42:21,846

fight together for all of humanity.