Have you heard the term, useful idiot? What kind of elements are behind the organized protests against Israel and for terrorist organizations, e.g., Hamas?

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Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services:

• Live-stream (The Right to Protest and Useful Idiots) on September 13
• Thor's hammer, Mjölnir
• Right to protest - Wikipedia
• Useful idiot
• Bulletin Board System (BBS)
• What is Objectivism?
• The Democrats (Demokraterna) in Gothenburg
• Demokraterna and my comment on Instagram
• Information about Pro-Palestinian demonstration on campus - Chalmers
• Regarding the tent manifestation in Vasaparken - University of Gothenburg
• Free Speech Absolutism
• Payot (sidelocks)
• Knesset
• Benjamin Netanyahu
• Atom symbol (emoji)
• Atomic whirl
• Counter Terrorism Guide: Hamas
• Mosab Hassan Yousef
• Mosab Hassan Yousef on Instagram
• THE CASE AGAINST UNRWA: How UN schools use our tax money to teach Palestinian children to hate and kill Jews
• Qatari support for Hamas
• Closed-circuit television (CCTV) / video surveillance
• Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights
• Gothenburg riots in 2001
• Martin: The Solo Protest Warrior (2005)
• Civil Disobedience - Ayn Rand Lexicon
• Property Rights
• The Student “Rebellion” at Columbia University
• PodChute 21: Lessons From the Campus Protests, with Glenn Reynolds
• "With Israel for Peace" (Med Israel for fred) on Twitter (X)
• Notes to self for the live-streaming session on Mod. 1927 note card

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Eagle Net cost Welcome to Ego Netcost live streaming.

My name is Martin Lindeskook.

Today is still first day in America, so I will

use the Mjolnir Thor's hammer for Torstog in Swedish and ventilate a bit about the topic.

And today's title was the right of to protest.

And I looked at the Wikipedia thing there

about protest thing, what you're to demonstrate and then if you know about the

term expression useful idiot.

And I will include that in the show notes when

I editing this into a podcast episode of ego Netcast podcast, I think it's 135, I believe

it is.

So that's an expression that also will

include, as I said, it could sound harsh, but it's interesting words meaning an expression

useful idiot.

And it has a connection together with the

right to protest and people who are very keen on demonstrating.

And I have a note card here for the live viewers on model 1927, written by hand, a

pencil in order to keep track here.

Again, I want to have this short and sweet for

my own sake and for you as a listener and watcher viewer to have it around 15 minutes.

This topic could talk a long time, that's for sure.

And again you could wonder why talk about this?

Is it useful to do? But it triggered me.

And then, as I will say at the ending, I wanted to get it out in my way on my platform,

because I have an expression here at the end that I will made up expression what could

happen on the Internet and by having arguing online.

And I've been there for a long time, but also back in the day it was, you could have argued

on bulletin boards, bbs, and then you had to put in a hashtag with your topic name, for

example, as we did Lyceum, where the channel called Lyceum and talking about Rand's

philosophy, objectivism.

And there we had certain ground rules, what,

how you have the debate and discussion and discourse and what was allowed to say, and not

because it was our so called room.

And then of course you have to follow a room

of interrelated chat also and freedom of expression.

And that's the whole thing that we're coming to here as an introduction here.

It's already some minutes here and I was a bit late also, so you have to take it what it is.

I will try to do this as a routine and see if I get going here in order to create content.

So I saw an Instagram photo and a post on the Swedish Britain, you party in Gothenburg,

Sweden called the Democrats and they have said that so called a camp, tent camp of

demonstrators that have could say occupied.

And this is where it gets complicated.

The university area.

Gothenburg University.

University of Gothenburg.

On a hill.

You could say it's middle of the city, so you'll see it.

And that was my personal reaction, to see these tents, camps with this flag by the so

called palestinian territory.

And also, of course, I'm for freedom

expression.

It's a satire, but it was of a prime minister

with blood on his face.

And then all kind of.

And I don't like that expression, but hate speech against Israel in different ways.

Sometimes it's so called between the lines.

And then you hear, probably when you hear and

listen to this, when we are shouting and propaganda and the microphones.

And also if you talk in another language, it can be in different ways.

I come back to this in the future.

So it's so called some students, but it seems

to be other elements that what I wrote in the description.

Also, if you know about the elements, and that has to do with the term useful idiots who are

demonstrating who is behind this, what kind of elements, who is supporting this kind of

thing.

Because I'm, as they say, Elon Musk is free

speech absolutist.

And I am that also, even with things that I

don't agree with.

I know, and this is where the scary part comes

in.

If some of these elements will gain power, I

will not be allowed to speak up, that's for sure.

Because if you speak up for freedom of expression, free speech, rational ideas, free

society, free market, what could happen then? And that we have seen during the history.

So it was a post by a party in Gothenburg, the Democrats, that said that these tent camps

occupying the university area in Gothenburg, middle of Gothenburg, in the city, that's

illegal.

They don't have any permission.

When you do a regular demonstration walking, you have to ask for a permit from police.

And then again, I have solution to this problem.

And also if you really have a right to demonstrate whenever on so called, and I do an

air quote here on public land in a city or a university.

And that's again, that's the crux of a problem.

Why this getting so complicated? Because it's pretty easy in a way.

And I know individuals who really going to digging into this rules about having

demonstration permits, what to do.

Because this is a political agenda, this is

political correctness and pushing some lobbyists and others.

If some other views will come across that I don't either agree with, then it will probably

be some other decisions.

But that also have happened back in the day.

And they are pretty similar.

That's the thing.

They are united against Israel, the National Socialists, the regular socialists and the

militant Muslims against Israel.

And for the record, I'm not a religious

person.

I'm not for the so called corkscrews, orthodox

Jews that have special rights, so to speak.

And the Knesset is, you could say, in a mess,

in a way the political situation is instable.

I think Netanyahu, yao, or how you say him, is

too weak that you don't often hear.

They think that he is in hawk, but that's his

problem there.

And I think hopefully a so called middle class

in Israel, a secular middle class, will come up with a party or a movement to have real

stable secular society.

And.

Yeah, so the whole situation and of course historical.

And now we're going on tangent here already around ten minutes, the history and the word

Palestine and the former word of Israel and how they did this map and how we draw the

lines and the maps.

And then of course, United nations declaration

there with Israel as a state and so on.

But I said on my comment here on the Democrats

in Gutenberg, thanks for supporting a secular Gothenburg and then used the atheist symbol or

the nuclear symbol, the purple one.

Now I'm drawing, see, like this.

And then in the middle dot the nuclear power and symbol of atheism.

And that's the absence of God.

I'm not.

It's not the perfect definition of myself, but in this case I use it.

So when I comment on that it was a person without real name.

Of course, you could always find them.

I think this person, I think it's.

He did the selfie and so on in his own photo, Instagram photos.

But he said something common to me.

What do you mean by secular?

And why is the Democrats, the Democrat party in Gothenburg, why are they for that?

And the so called right to protest or demonstrate or really to occupy a property, a

land in the city near the university.

So it looks sms.

It's not nice to see.

It's been there for a long time.

They are in the way of traffic and others.

It looks, as I said, ugly.

It's not a nice symbol, we could say, for learning in university.

But then the commentators say that we should have this.

And then I comment back and then he comment back again.

And that got me thinking, should I continue with this, to comment or come up with a

response? And I know individuals that have really worked

on this issue and problem, so I will come back with that.

But then I mentioned that these who called protesters and demonstrators were against

Israel for some reason, and they are for and supporter of Hamas in one way or another, and

other terrorist organizations that are listed as terrorist organizations.

So then I commented also linking to a son of Hamas founders.

Now, as you pronounce the name right, Musab Hassan Youssef.

So include that in Michonne podcast episode.

He was the son of a Hamas founder, and now he

fled where I'm coming from, if it was Palestine, so called Palestine, or Lebanon, or

some other place in the Middle east, and then move to America.

That said, it's interesting that the so called leaders of Hamas, many of them.

Where are they located? Have a guess.

I think one place is like Qatar or something like that.

Maybe Saudi Arabia, I don't know.

But that's something you could follow, so

called the money, and that's the aid money that's going to.

That are controlled by the UN so called educational school system.

And what they are teaching in these schools about Israel, about youth and the hatred

coming there, and how male students, how they learn from an early age.

And I will find a video including that in to hate the use being against Israel.

And then take up arms and join Hamas.

That is a terrorist organization.

And recently it was an incident here in Gothenburg by a leftist left party or its

former communist party in Gothenburg.

And there it was an organizer there that I've

done lots of protests and demonstrations in the public.

And he and I don't know, the cameras, or how do you call it, overview cameras, ECTs or ETCs

or whatever it's called, cameras.

Who started the fight, where it was a

journalist that had been writing for the Gutenberg Post.

And now he's more like you could say, independent citizen journalist.

And he get support from the viewers and so on.

And he had done some research on this leftist

party member representing left party in goodwill and wanted to ask things about that.

And this guy supposedly then hit him and to the ground, took his phone.

And we'll see how that Fred is going, if you do a search on that.

So again, this guy, the commentator on the Democrats thread, but I will comment it as a

support for what we are saying that therefore freedom of expression as myself.

But it's illegal what they are doing now.

They have done this now for a long time,

occupied this area, messing things up and having these tents and all these things that

we have in this area.

So do they have a permission to be there?

What's this land? Who's owning that?

Are you allowed to do this kind of thing? And then this commentator said something about

the European Commission.

Then I had to search for it in order to

protest or demonstrate.

And that articles nine to eleven.

And that's talking about freedom of expression, freedom of, how you say, joined

groups and movements and freedom of speech.

But then also to have peaceful demonstrations.

And the word is peaceful.

And what's going on in this occupied area of

the university land is not so peaceful, I think.

So that's something to think about.

And who's behind these elements?

And are they students of Gothenburg University or they're coming from others?

This is coming back to the day.

And I'm not a fan of Bush's former presidents,

but when he came, and when I was in America, came for a visit to Gothenburg, it was this

rally in Gothenburg.

People taking up stones from the roads,

throwing it.

It was a mess, total mess.

And then the police had to come in, because these were organized around Europe, called the

zoo, called the streets, demonstrators of a street or something like that.

And this occupy movement.

And it was total a mess.

These are organized in different ways.

I did a so called back in the day, a pro

counter demonstra demonstration.

One person, one individual with an american

flag.

And I didn't interrupt the demonstration.

I was standing on central of Sweden, near the Poseidon statue on the avenue in Gothenburg,

and talked to the police.

And there it was, this crowd against so called

american war, against Iraq and the dictator Saddam Hussein.

So there was support for dictator Saddam Hussein against the so called invasion.

And what, and I say for record, it was not the best way to do it.

They should have attacked the dictators and the ayatollahs in Iran, because that's the

center of terrorism.

Supporting organizations like Hamas.

In their case, it's more Hezbollah, what I know about.

And that we could come back for another day.

What's the so called difference and

resemblance? And they unite against a common enemy, plot

different forms of Islam, Shiites and whatnot.

So do you have the right to do this and what's

the solution? And when I search for my favorite author and

philosopher Rand, Miss Rand, about articles and essays about this, and I found that I will

link and read again and see what saying the title was the cash in colonization, the

student rebellion.

Because back in the day, in the seventies, it

was almost you were left leaning, or you were even more left like a communist, or even more.

And that's all the splinter groups that's happening.

And also her essay called man's rights about property rights.

Now take a sip of tea here.

Cheers.

Drinking english breakfast black tea blend.

So the solution for this is what's property

rights and do the university.

And this is getting complicated because it's

like a so called public education institution, I think.

It's not a private one.

So who's owning the land?

Is it the commune or is it the institution somehow how it's working but mere phase of it

to set up a tent.

Of course, if you can move it, but put it so

you can't move it and then be there for a very long time, do you have a right to do that or

could they be somewhere else? And the solution here, I have a card here to

have a positive thing about what you could learn from it.

It was a discussion between Amy peacoff on her channel, her video channel, on what's called

Bitshoot Channel, talking with Insta Pundit, blogger Glenn Reynolds, and he is in lawyer or

law professor, and he talked about how indifferent, when it was these demonstrations

in, in America, what was going on.

Some university did it in a good way,

proactive way, and some were doing it.

Yes, it got even worse.

What could you learn from that? Again, so about these different elements is

something to think about, who's behind these organizations and demonstrates and what are

they saying? As I said, I'm not for this classification of

hate speech and what's that for freedom of expression, but we have to take account and

take responsibility for what we are saying.

And these expression hate against Israel and

the support of the terrorist organizations, that's something to think about.

And again, why are they doing this? And it's this like organized and this that I

was coming to useful idiots that was used with connection with, I think it was Leonin and

others and different, again, splinter groups on the left and the communists and also here

in Europe, then how they could use useful idiots for their purposes.

So that's something to dig into more.

Who is behind this demonstration and this tent

camp and who are in the tents? And are they peaceful or are they aggressive?

And what's their goal? That's something to think about also, because

you could see all the props there with maps of so called when palestinian territory and the

history and Israel and go and read the source.

What are the Hamas organization?

What are they saying? What are they standing for?

And who attacked Israel in the beginning of the year and killed civilians and Israel

response and how, what's the solution for this problem and this situation now?

It will be more like half an hour.

I was planning of 50 minutes, but yeah, it's a

topic you could talk more about in a civilized way.

But I will do the ending here.

I will talk to a friend that is very into this

situation when I have learned about it and doing it in very great work, but the legal

things about this and how it should be done.

So she has a great project there.

So I will see if she has something coming up with something that I could share in this

comment thread, like my last remark.

But I think this person has, as I call it in

Swedish, tid posina fingerar or time on your fingers, or you have time on your hands doing

nothing.

And you had to have the so called last word

and you're sitting there with a keyboard and waiting for me to respond.

And because I said thanks for supporting a secular Gotenburg, that was it.

Of course, you could think what's that to do with the post about that it's illegal tent

camp.

But again, if you look what Hamas is standing

for, because they are supporting Hamas and call it that, it should be not listed as a

terrorist organization and whatnot.

So you have that and that again against

Israel.

It's the socialist, it's the National

Socialist and the militant Muslims, and they are religious to the core and they are reading

the so called holy scripture as the devil is doing that, and then have this hatred and

aggression and violence and terror activism.

And I can't get it how you could support these

kind of organizations.

Israel is not perfect.

They have issues.

And you also have to understand the history.

And I bought a book fair some years ago from an organization supporting a peaceful way in

Israel.

And it was very informative about the whole

history, all the details with solutions, what you could do and how we continue.

And this as a call to action.

I'm very interested as a new media advisor,

supporter of a podcast in 2.0 initiative to support freedom of expression in a peaceful

way.

We could continue the conversation and the

discourse and the debate.

But again, this commentator have some kind of

agenda, but then playing this role that I have to explain myself and probably continue to

reply and reply again and again.

I don't know what was trigger, if he is a

secular person, but Hamas supporter or whatnot, or if it's really supporting peaceful

demonstrations that I don't think this tent camp is so, but we will see and we will follow

this along here in Gothenburg, Sweden.

And if you have anything that you want to

share, any examples from your area, what's going on and if you have any ideas, what's the

elements behind these demonstrations and actions against Israel and these demonstrators

that are really supporters of terrorist organizations, for example, Hamas.

And if they are organized that have a long history of useful idiots.

And with that I say Cheerio and talk to you soon again.

Bye for now.

Sadeena Namdeh.