Spoiler alert: it doesn't mean having a bunch of accounts in a bunch of different places, making your life really difficult.
Quote for the episode: "Do you have one advisor with a unified diversified strategy? Or do you have a lot of random first aid kits that may all just be packed with different brands of the same gauze?" (08:56)
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Joseph Okaly:Hello, and thanks for joining me once again here
Joseph Okaly:on the Enjoy More 30s Family Finance podcast. Every week here
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Joseph Okaly:So far this season, we've covered quite a lot. So we
Joseph Okaly:started off by setting your compass with your spouse. So
Joseph Okaly:joint goal setting, then we discussed the importance of
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Joseph Okaly:each of those goals and that time horizon that's with it. And
Joseph Okaly:then finally, last week, so far we talked about insuring for the
Joseph Okaly:catastrophic, versus insuring for the inconvenient. So if you
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Joseph Okaly:Today's episode is titled Diversify, But With One Advisor
Joseph Okaly:exclamation point, where we're going to cover why you've likely
Joseph Okaly:heard the word diversification, it gets thrown around a lot. But
Joseph Okaly:what it actually means and the best way to go about doing it in
Joseph Okaly:my opinion, and the spoiler alert is it does not mean having
Joseph Okaly:a bunch of accounts in a bunch of different places and making
Joseph Okaly:your life really difficult. The goal for today's episode then is
Joseph Okaly:for you to be able to look at what you have now and say, you
Joseph Okaly:know, "hey, I'm spread out in a way that really reduces my
Joseph Okaly:investment risk". Or "hey, now I see I just have a bunch of
Joseph Okaly:similar stuff, but in a lot of different places, making my life
Joseph Okaly:unnecessarily difficult, while maybe not likely reducing much
Joseph Okaly:of my investment risk". So going back to our fun nautical
Joseph Okaly:examples, which I know everybody loves, we obviously need to pack
Joseph Okaly:a lot of different things on this ship for this trip that
Joseph Okaly:we're going on. And one of those items that any ship needs, if
Joseph Okaly:So diversifying means that you're using a variety of
Joseph Okaly:it's going out into the middle of the ocean by itself would be
Joseph Okaly:a first aid kit. Now we probably are going to pack it with a
Joseph Okaly:variety of medical items, right? So maybe something for colds,
Joseph Okaly:maybe some medicine that helps with a fever or something to
Joseph Okaly:clean cuts, bandages, you know, so on and so forth all different
Joseph Okaly:things. We don't know what we may need so we are going to
Joseph Okaly:bring a variety of items to reduce the risk of not having
Joseph Okaly:something that we may need available if something happened.
Joseph Okaly:We are essentially diversifying our first aid kit, spreading out
Joseph Okaly:the types of things we are bringing. What we wouldn't do is
Joseph Okaly:bring 10 first aid kits, but pack them all only with gauze.
Joseph Okaly:We would have 10 boxes only with gauze that would not reduce the
Joseph Okaly:different holdings across a variety of different areas.
Joseph Okaly:risk for our potential medical needs. If we have a cut that
Joseph Okaly:There are small companies out there, large companies, mid
Joseph Okaly:needs to be cleaned out, every single first aid kit will not be
Joseph Okaly:sized companies, US companies, foreign companies, corporate
Joseph Okaly:bonds, government bonds, and many many more that you keep
Joseph Okaly:helpful because none of them have anything to clean out a
Joseph Okaly:breaking it down into. So if you have Apple stock with advisor
Joseph Okaly:cut. What many people think when it comes to investments is that
Joseph Okaly:one and more Apple stock with advisor two you haven't
Joseph Okaly:they need a lot of different first aid kits, a lot of
Joseph Okaly:diversified yourself at all. You've just made things more
Joseph Okaly:complicated. You have two accounts, but you are not at all
Joseph Okaly:different accounts with different people, and they don't
Joseph Okaly:any more diversified as if you had all that Apple stock with
Joseph Okaly:spend enough time making sure that all of those medical kits
Joseph Okaly:one account.
Joseph Okaly:Now, sometimes this can be hard to see, because instead of Apple
Joseph Okaly:or all those first aid kits that they took all that time to
Joseph Okaly:stock, maybe advisor one has the ABC large growth fund, and
Joseph Okaly:advisor two might have the 123 large growth fund. She may say,
Joseph Okaly:create aren't all just packed with very very similar gauze.
Joseph Okaly:"hey, you know, I have two different funds, so I must be
Joseph Okaly:spread out. I must be diversified". If both of those
Joseph Okaly:funds though are large growth funds, just from different
Joseph Okaly:companies, then studies have shown that over 90% of the
Joseph Okaly:returns will likely just overlap because they're in the same
Joseph Okaly:categories. And the most famous of those was called the Brinson
Joseph Okaly:study, but yea most of the return is just due to what area
Joseph Okaly:of the market you tend to be in. If one goes up, in this example
Joseph Okaly:of ABC fund goes up, then 123 is very likely to go up as well. If
Joseph Okaly:ABC fund goes down, then 123 fund is again very, very likely
Joseph Okaly:to do the same thing, because they're in the same area of the
Joseph Okaly:market, large growth type companies. Again, it may feel
Joseph Okaly:like you're talking to two people, it may feel like you
Joseph Okaly:have two, you know, differently titled funds, so you just, you
Joseph Okaly:know, you must be spread out and diversified. But in reality, if
Joseph Okaly:that one area does terribly, you will also do terribly, because
Joseph Okaly:all your eggs are in that same large growth basket. And this is
Joseph Okaly:why you know, when we diversify, this is why when we spread
Joseph Okaly:things out, we're doing this because we don't want all of our
Joseph Okaly:investments to be dependent on how one area of the market
Joseph Okaly:happens to perform.
Joseph Okaly:Now I totally get the traditional way of thinking, you
Joseph Okaly:know, hey, I don't want all my money with this one guy or gal,
Joseph Okaly:because what if they're not on the up and up and I may, you
Joseph Okaly:know, lose it all I see stuff on TV. I watch movies, things like
Joseph Okaly:that. You know, investments are something that no one is really
Joseph Okaly:taught about in school. So it's an unknown, which I've talked
Joseph Okaly:about before, and unknowns are scary. And so I totally
Joseph Okaly:understand that. If the advisor though is following a
Joseph Okaly:diversified strategy, so spreading your money out in
Joseph Okaly:different areas all the time, you know, not trying to time the
Joseph Okaly:market, then it's a kind of a bit of a different story, in my
Joseph Okaly:opinion. A diversified portfolio then would be spread out among
Joseph Okaly:10 to 15 different funds, let's say. And each one of those funds
Joseph Okaly:might be comprised of a few 1000 holdings. So overall, you could
Joseph Okaly:have a few 1000 holdings that make up your portfolio. So what
Joseph Okaly:that means is to lose it all would require all of those
Joseph Okaly:holdings to simultaneously go out of business or become
Joseph Okaly:worthless. So you can kind of see the difference between
Joseph Okaly:having one advisor in the traditional sense, that's buying
Joseph Okaly:or selling and dabbling in a couple of individual stocks,
Joseph Okaly:versus an advisor that is spreading your money over, you
Joseph Okaly:know, a variety of different funds, and funds that each have
Joseph Okaly:several 100, or in some cases 1000s of holdings. So it's a
Joseph Okaly:very different scenario when you compare those two things.
Joseph Okaly:In order to actually implement this though, let's say we're on
Joseph Okaly:board with a diversified strategy, which I hope you are,
Joseph Okaly:you really need to be using one advisor again, in my opinion.
Joseph Okaly:Let's go back to our first aid kit example. If you have two
Joseph Okaly:people putting together separate first aid kits, Hey, Bob, and
Joseph Okaly:hey, Jane, each of you guys design your own first aid kit
Joseph Okaly:and bring it on the ship with us, they're going to have no
Joseph Okaly:idea what the other person has already packed. Did the other
Joseph Okaly:person already pack a bunch of gauze or extra cold medicine or
Joseph Okaly:whatever else? So having one person in charge of the first
Joseph Okaly:aid kit means that one person now has enough information to
Joseph Okaly:make sure that the first aid kit is well diversified. You know,
Joseph Okaly:we often say having two advisors is like having two dentists. And
Joseph Okaly:again, in our opinion, you don't have one dentist for the top of
Joseph Okaly:your mouth and one for the bottom. You have one dentist and
Joseph Okaly:make sure your whole mouth is in order. So take a look at what
Joseph Okaly:you have right now when it comes to investments. And remember the
Joseph Okaly:goal for today. Do you have one advisor with a unified
Joseph Okaly:diversified strategy? Or do you have a lot of random first aid
Joseph Okaly:kits that may all just be packed with different brands of the
Joseph Okaly:same gauze?
Joseph Okaly:Thanks as always for tuning in today and join us for next
Joseph Okaly:week's episode, which is the Series Recap. So this is the
Joseph Okaly:last individual episode of this series and next week, we'll be
Joseph Okaly:recapping all the episodes for you. I sincerely hope that these
Joseph Okaly:episodes can help as you take that sail into the New Year,
Joseph Okaly:give you more direction, give you more confidence in your
Joseph Okaly:finances so you can focus more on the goal that we always have
Joseph Okaly:despite the name of the series, which is making life more
Joseph Okaly:enjoyable for us and for our families.
Joseph Okaly:Overall as I always say if you're able to implement these
Joseph Okaly:things, then that's fantastic. If you do want help, if you do
Joseph Okaly:have questions, please do not hesitate to reach out. The Ask
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Joseph Okaly:connecting with you again soon.
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