Welcome back to Retromade! Today we’re heading back to 1994, when pop culture was firing on all cylinders, to revisit Baby's Day Out, a movie that dares to ask: what if a baby could outwit three grown criminals without even trying? We’ll get into the chaos, the cartoon logic, and whether this one holds up at all + a quick trip through some 1994 trivia to set the scene.

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Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome back to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today we're heading back to 1994

when pop culture was firing on all

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cylinders, I must say, to revisit

Baby's Day Out, a movie that dares to

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ask, what if a baby could outwit three

grown criminals without even trying.

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We will get into the chaos,

the cartoon logic, and whether

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this one holds up at all.

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Plus a quick trip through some

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me is a returning guest, Milo Dennison

from the eighties and nineties which you

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recently rolled out a bit of an update.

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So Milo, good to have you back.

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Is there anything new with the show or

anything upcoming that you wanna tell

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us about and where we can find you?

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Milo: Yeah.

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Bit of a change in the show.

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I used to co-host it with a good

friend of mine, Jamie Fenderson,

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and so he's stepped back from

the show to focus on other areas.

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So it's a solo show now, and kind of

changed the format up a little bit.

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I'm doing a bit of just solo episodes

where I talk about interesting

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historic facts from the eighties

and nineties, and then bringing on

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a kind of a rotating guest host.

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Just had you on,

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which was fun.

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And so that'll be coming up here soon.

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And yeah, so kind of revitalized

it, reformatted a little bit,

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so we'll see how it goes.

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Katie: Nice.

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I'm looking forward to the new format

and see what episodes you have upcoming.

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Speaking of which, thank

you for having me on.

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So at some point an upcoming

episode I will tell you guys

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sneak peek is Sly versus Arnold.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Which was super fun.

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I'm kind of surprised you guys hadn't

done that yet you know, given the eighties

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and nineties and the action of it all.

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But that does remind me before

we get into our discussion

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about 1994 and Baby's Day Out.

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If you do like sly movies, particularly

Rocky I'm lucky enough to get to join

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an excellent podcasting team discussing

this series in a very in-depth way.

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So much so that each movie is an

entire season and we've just wrapped

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our six seasons of coverage, but.

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It is all there for your binging pleasure.

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So the easiest way to find that is to

head over to YouTube and search for one

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more round the Rocky Series Podcast.

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So if you're into sly

I would check that out.

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And speaking of YouTube, while you're

there, please head on over to the Retro

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Made Podcast channel and subscribe.

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If you have not done so already

that's where you can see

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the episodes in video form.

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You can see me and my lovely guests

and you can actually comment and

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interact with the episodes right there.

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So please do so.

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But Milo, before we get into

Baby's Day Out, shall we open

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the time capsule from 1994?

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Milo: Let's do it.

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I remember 1994.

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So let's see what you've

got in your time capsule.

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Katie: All right, we're gonna,

spin the retro made trivia wheel

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So we just, we've covered some of

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in one of the Christmas episodes.

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So John Hughes had a, he did the

remake of Miracle on 34th Street.

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I don't know if you

remember that one, Milo, but

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Milo: Yeah, I do remember that I really

liked the original Miracle on 34th

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Street, so I think it's one of those

films that shouldn't have been remade.

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Katie: Yeah, I think a lot

of people felt that way.

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It, it was quite good.

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But at any rate, check out that episode

if you're interested hearing my, my and

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my thoughts and my guest thoughts on that.

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But Milo, the reason

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I'm bringing that up is that if we

come to a category that we've already

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covered, we'll just spin again.

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So I'm gonna spin on your

behalf and we shall see.

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Pages of the past, I believe is fair game.

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As you might guess, this

is books and magazines.

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The literary world was a

mix of legal thrillers.

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There was a rise of Oprah's influence

on reading habits at this time, the

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debut of era defining magazines.

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So I've got some trivia questions.

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These are a little harder

than they usually are.

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I think sometimes my trivia

questions are too easy.

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But, which former attorney turned

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lists with legal thrillers?

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Like the chamber?

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Milo: It is gotta be John Grisham.

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Katie: Yes.

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I didn't even need to finish

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Milo: No.

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Yeah.

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You, you had me at legal thrillers.

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Like he was, he was so huge

back then with his books.

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Like everybody was reading his books and

they were all being turned into movies.

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Katie: They, they were, I don't,

I should have looked up how

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many had turned into to movies.

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The client is one that definitely

was turned into a movie.

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I don't think I've read

any John Grisham novels.

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Milo: I think I've read one, didn't he?

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Did he write Congo?

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Katie: Oh, I don't know.

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Milo: If he wrote Congo,

then I read that one

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because I know I've read that I, and I

think he wrote that I could be wrong.

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But again, I'm not a huge, I'm not

really big on thrillers and, and

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especially like legal thrillers.

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So, yeah, that's probably

why I didn't read too many of

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Katie: That was definitely a

not my jam in the mid nineties.

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But it kind of is now, but there's

just so much stuff that I, you know,

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there's just a lot.

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But Good answer.

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Good answer.

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This one I think is, I don't

think I would get this correct,

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so I'd be shocked if you did.

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. This is where Oak was influenced.

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Is is coming into play.

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What, yeah.

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What?

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94 Cookbook became one of the

fastest selling books in history.

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After its author, if I say the

name, it might give it away.

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Appeared on the oprah

Winfrey Show to share.

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Secrets of Oprah's weight loss.

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Milo: oh.

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Is this like one of those fad diets

for a while that like everybody

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was only eating meat or something

like that, or I don't know.

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I, I, I,

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Katie: I, to be honest, I'm not sure.

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I am not familiar with this person.

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So listeners, let me know if you are.

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This one completely missed me.

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I don't think Oprah kept the weight.

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I think she's one of those

that kind of yo-yos with her

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weight.

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But the answer is in the kitchen

with Rosie Oprah's favorite recipes.

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Milo: Never heard of it.

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Katie: Same.

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I, I mean, I guess the book sold

over 5 million copies in its first

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year kind of showcasing the Oprah

effect in the publishing industry.

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But I guess in 94, I,

again, that was not my jam.

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Let's see.

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This one I think is also hard.

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I love true crime, but at

the time I wasn't into this

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and so this one missed me.

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Which nonfiction True Crime book by John

Baron debuted in 94, detailing a High

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Society murder in Savannah, Georgia,

went on to spend a record breaking

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216 weeks on the bestseller list.

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Milo: Oh, I do know

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this 'cause it was turned

into a movie actually

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as well.

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Gardens or something

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or something like

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Katie: Yes.

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Milo, you're on the right track.

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Milo: I can't remember the exact name.

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Katie: It is,

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Milo: Gardens of Louisiana

or something like that.

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Like something gardeny.

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Katie: yeah.

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It's midnight in The

Garden of Good and Evil.

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Milo: right.

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Yep.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I remember that.

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Katie: I don't,

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wow.

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Okay.

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Did you read it

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Milo: I did not read it.

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I just remember 'cause it was

so huge and I saw the movie.

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Katie: Okay.

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Was it any good?

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Milo: It was good.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Okay.

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Oh, I guess that the book Success

turned the City of Savannah into

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a major tourist destination.

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Milo: I believe that it was, they,

yeah, it was pretty, it was huge.

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I do re recall it being like a big, big

deal that how popular that book was.

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Katie: I did name my very first

dog that I adopted as an adult.

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Savannah.

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Milo: Hmm.

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Katie: if there was

something subconscious there.

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I just think it's a pretty name.

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But alright, the next question is, which

iconic fashion and lifestyle magazine

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known for its focus on celebrity homes

and get the look features like the cover

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would say, get so-and-so's look published.

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Its very first issue in June, 1994

with Barbara Streisand on the cover.

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Milo: I have no idea on this one.

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Katie: I don't think I

would get this either.

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Sorry, these are very hard,

but you're doing pretty well.

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It is in Style

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Milo: Okay, cool.

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Good for InStyle Magazine.

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That, I mean, I, I'm

sure I've heard of it.

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Katie: Oh, I've definitely

heard of In Style.

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I've read in Style.

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I didn't know it started

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at this time and yeah.

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Okay.

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Milo: of, I agree.

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I kind of feel like that

would've been an older magazine

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that had been around longer.

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Katie: Yeah, Yeah.

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totally.

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This one is sort of an

expansion of a magazine.

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So it started as a small health

newsletter and it became a global

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powerhouse in 94 by expanding its

lifestyle content to include things

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like ABS in six weeks like that style

of cover as well as relationship advice.

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Milo: Hmm.

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Not like GQ or Men's Health

or something like that.

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is it

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Katie: Men's health.

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Men's Health?

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yeah.

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Very good.

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Milo: I got two and a half, right.

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Katie: You did, were you

suckered in by the abs in six

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Milo: I was a men's health reader.

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Yeah.

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I, Yeah, I'd, I'd go like attempt

to be in shape and, and exercise

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occasionally and stuff like that.

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So I, I definitely, I read it for,

I had a subscription for a while.

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I was one of those people.

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Katie: I was suckered in by

all of the various contraptions

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for abs, I was big into

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abs.

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That must have been the thing

in, in the mid nineties.

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So I bought all of the infomercial.

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Style, like Suzanne Summers had, like

the Thigh Master, and there was like

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this ab, I can picture it, I don't

even remember what it was called, but

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I bought a bunch of AB related devices

that, you know, didn't really help

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Milo: It didn't actually do

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much.

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Yeah.

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Katie: yeah.

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I mean, I guess you had

to use it pretty regularly

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Milo: Apparently that makes a difference.

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Katie: I guess.

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All right, well let's, let's, let's

maybe find you an easier category.

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That was a really hard one.

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Milo: All right.

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Katie: Oh boy.

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It's on the cusp, but return to tune time.

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Milo: Tune time.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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This kind of leads towards

our topic a bit ish.

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Katie: a little, yes, it does.

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Now, 94, this was, you know,

I'm not watching Saturday

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morning cartoons at this time.

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But there was kind of a, there were

still peak in kid culture, the Saturday

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morning cartoons with the like A B,

CNBC and CBS, but there was a rising.

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Fox Kids Channel with a fair

amount of content that we're

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battling for our eyeballs there.

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So

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Milo: Yeah,

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Katie: keep that in mind.

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Yeah.

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Milo: that time that were getting big.

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Katie: Yeah.

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So keep that in mind.

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So the first, the first one

is a Fox Kids powerhouse,

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and it featured a team of mutants

led by a certain professor.

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And because if I say his

name, it'll give it away.

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Milo: I think I know where

you're going already on this one.

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Yeah.

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Katie: he became famous for its

iconic theme song and complex

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storylines like fe, the Phoenix Saga.

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I did not watch this, but

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I bet boys did,

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Milo: we did an episode about it actually

X-Men the animated series, and it was

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really well done because it did, it,

it, it dealt with a lot of adult themes.

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It dealt with like, you, the way

the mutants are treated, obviously

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that's the whole X-Men thing, right?

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And instead of just standalone

episodes, you had that like

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storyline that carried on throughout

the entire series as it evolved.

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So it was really, really well done.

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Katie: that actually really surprises me.

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I don't know why just that kind

of thing isn't for me so much.

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So I believe it maybe helped

pave the way for , all of the

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superhero movies that we have now,

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and that is a miss for me too.

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I, I'm sure they're all

wonderful, but they're not for me.

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Milo: I can understand that I, for

a while was into the, some of the

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superhero movies, but hey, they've

just been stunned so to death

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and the plot is the same

on every single one of 'em.

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And yeah, I can't watch 'em anymore.

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I've completely lost interest.

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But I would recommend Xmen the

animated series just because it

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was the precursor to all of this.

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And again, this is a cartoon directed

towards children that deals with a lot

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of adult subjects in a lot of ways.

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Katie: Well, that's good.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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Katie: The next one I kind of put

in the same category also have not

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seen, but am aware of its place

in the pop culture zeitgeist.

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It is technically live action, and I

know we're in return to tune time, but

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it was a Saturday morning phenomenon and

it used Japanese super sai footage to

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tell the story of five teenagers with

attitude chosen by Zoan to save earth.

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Milo: Oh, is this that?

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I didn't watch it.

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That they, and then they kind of

combined and formed like a big me

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thing or something at some point.

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Katie: Maybe

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Milo: I know the show you're

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Katie: it's very, It

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was, everyone's probably screaming

because I mean, it was very popular.

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Milo: was so popular.

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Oh.

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I'm kicking myself for not

thinking of the name of it

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Katie: They each have a color,

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Milo: They do each have a color.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie: Give up.

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It's

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Milo: yeah.

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I'm gonna have to, it.

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I, I know I'll know it

as soon as you say it.

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Yeah, go

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Katie: it is the mighty

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Morphin Power Rangers.

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Milo: Yes.

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I'm an idiot.

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I can't believe I didn't think of that.

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Katie: They're probably vastly

different shows, but in my brain,

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it and the X-Men are the same.

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I don't know, maybe

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genre.

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Milo: Power Rangers I had

no interest in whatsoever,

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Katie: the next one I am familiar with.

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So, it is produced by Steven Spielberg.

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Milo: Is it Animas?

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Katie: It is, I didn't even,

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Milo: You didn't Once she

had me at Steven Spielberg.

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Yep.

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Katie: Boy, it won multiple daytime

Emmy awards and it was beloved by

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adults for he, for its pastiche

style and witty, fast-paced humor.

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Milo: Yeah, I didn't

get into Anim Maniacs.

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I kind of feel like I might have

felt I was too old for it at the

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Katie: Mm.

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Milo: Now I would probably appreciate it,

like I was at that age where I'm too old

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for cartoons, but too young to appreciate

cartoons as an older person that

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Katie: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah,

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Milo: kinda where I was

when Anim Maniacs came out.

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Katie: similar.

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I feel like it was just on,

sometimes it either came on before

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or after something that I did watch.

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So I'm aware of it, but I,

I was never a fan per se.

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The next one I'm also familiar

with, but I didn't watch it.

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There was also a video game series,

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Milo: Okay.

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Katie: Darker story driven cartoon

featuring blue bur as the leader

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of a group of freedom fighters

rebelling against the tyrannical, Dr.

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Robotnik Robotnik.

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I don't know how they pronounce it.

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Milo: Okay.

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This one doesn't ring a bell.

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Katie: That clue wouldn't help me.

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I will say it's an animal.

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The main character is an animal.

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Milo: Okay.

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I'm still lost.

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie: and there were two, uh hmm.

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I don't know what the other one is.

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There were two different cartoons

like this with the same character

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airing at the same time.

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This version was known for its

more serious tone compared to

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the slapstick weekday version.

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Maybe that's the one

I'm more familiar with.

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There's a video game of the same name,

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Milo: Clueless.

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Katie: Sonic the Hedgehog.

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Milo: Oh gee.

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That's right.

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They did a sonic the head.

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I forgot that there even

was a sonic cartoon.

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Katie: Me too.

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Milo: you're right.

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Yeah, I remember.

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I know they did the boobies

and I actually had the game.

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I had the little PlayStation portable

or whatever it was called, the little

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portable one, and I had that game.

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I, yeah, I totally forgot

that they did a sonic cartoon.

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Completely forgot about it,

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Katie: I feel like the, I.

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I was at a friend's house

once and they had a Sega, like

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a different gaming console.

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Milo: or, yeah.

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Sega, not Sony.

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I mean, sorry, I

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Katie: I don't know if the, it was you,

if it was only made available for Sega.

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Milo: Mm-hmm.

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It was,

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Katie: So then you gotta buy all the

gaming consoles if you wanna play the

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games.

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I mean, this is how they get you, man.

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Last question.

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Milo: Okay.

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Let's see if I do better on this one.

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Katie: You probably will.

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Okay.

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It's debuting in late 1994, which

Marvel series followed a certain

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person's life at Empire State

University, while balancing being a

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hero and dealing with the sinister six.

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If I give Peter Parker

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Milo: Was it a Spider-Man cartoon?

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Was it like spider, so I'm

guessing some kinda Spider-Man

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Katie: Yeah.

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Spider-Man, the animated series.

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Milo: Oh, okay.

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Katie: Yeah, I, I didn't either, I didn't

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watch any of these.

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But I guess it was like really

big ratings wise on Fox Kids.

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Milo: Wow.

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Good for it.

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I remember watching a previous iteration

of Spider-Man when I was younger.

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They must have done in yeah.

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Seventies or eighties

version of Spider-Man.

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That one I watched, but this one

I, yeah, I guess I wouldn't have

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like the, the thing is like 94.

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I mean, that would've been, I would've

been in college at the time for me.

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So, just finishing just outta high

school, just going into college.

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So my

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Katie: This is so

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Milo: on that kind of stuff at that time.

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Yeah.

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Katie: well, let's spin another

category because you, you've

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gotten really hard ones, Milo, as

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the cartoon.

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The cartoon one is especially hard if the

eighties ones are easier 'cause we were.

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Like, at least like I was a kid then.

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Milo: Yeah, exactly.

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Age's, cartoons.

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I can, I can remember all that.

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Katie: Okay.

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I feel like given your age

at this time, you would know

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some of these from Retro Runway.

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Milo: Okay.

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Claudia Schaffer.

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Katie: Oh, oh my God.

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I loved her.

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I was obsessed.

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All the magazines had all the

supermodels in the nineties.

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Man, I, it's no wonder we

all have eating disorders.

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Um,

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Milo: To those magazines.

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Katie: So it was 94 was your

fashion officially split

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between gritty and glossy.

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So you either looked like you

just rolled out of a garage band

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practice or like you were heading

to a high-end mall in Beverly Hills.

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Milo: Oh yeah.

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It was totally garage band.

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Katie: So speaking of this one's the

giveaway, but inspired by the Seattle

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music scene, which you're in Seattle,

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right?

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Milah.

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Milo: Yep.

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Yep.

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Cringe the style that Seattle

brought to the world and the world

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has been suffering from ever since.

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Katie: Well, specifically,

so you said grunge,

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but there's a, what was the plaid shirt

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Milo: Oh, the flannel shirts.

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yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I have a couple still, I think probably.

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Katie: I have flannel

shirts, but not in a grungy

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way.

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Like they're from J Crew.

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So I,

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Milo: well that's fashionable then.

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Katie: Yeah.

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like the more, the glossy

version of it, I suppose.

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So Kurt Cobain passed in 94.

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And so he made it famous to be like

anti fashionable, hence this whole

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grunge look, but high end designers

like Mark Jacobs famously brought

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the look to the runway, which Kurt

was probably like, damn the man, you

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know?

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Milo: probably.

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Katie: Plaid was a big, I'm, picture

the movie Clueless for this question.

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Milo: Okay,

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Katie: which schoolgirl aesthetic

featuring pleaded plaid skirts

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and matching blazers became a

massive trend thanks to Oh, thanks

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to filming the 1990 95 movie.

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Clueless.

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Milo: so this was like a women's style

that was like called something like

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the short skirts that they wore Then,

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Katie: It was, it was two specific

items, and I kind of already gave

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it away, but yet you said short

skirts, so plaid mini skirts

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Milo: I remember

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Katie: and what were paired with them

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Milo: are we going for like

the boots, like the, the like,

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what's the appropriate word?

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Like, we used to call

'em, fuck me boots, but

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Katie: like the Kneehigh boots.

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But this is

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Milo: Yeah.

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I'm like, what, what, what are you

supposed to say on on a podcast thing?

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That's not, that's

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Katie: Those boots still work.

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Like I, I gotta say I love a tall

boot, but it's not the boots.

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This is like, if you picture, if you

didn't wear a tall boot, you still

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wore if you wore Mary Jane style shoes,

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what?

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Milo: The stockings.

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Katie: What were they,

507

Milo: Oh, there was a

name for the stockings.

508

Katie: like, how would you describe them?

509

Milo: Yeah, so they like, so you would

actually see like the top of the stocking.

510

Like they, they would come up and then

so you actually had this like kinda

511

gap between the top of the stocking

and then where the skirt started, and

512

so you could see a little leg there.

513

It was quite a sexy style.

514

I have to, I have to.

515

Yeah.

516

That takes me back.

517

Girls back then were hot.

518

Katie: Uhhuh, I mean, clue.

519

Yes.

520

Clueless was

521

It So yeah.

522

Plaid, moony, skirts and kneehigh,

523

like kneehigh

524

Milo: Kneehigh stockings.

525

Yeah, I remember that

526

Katie: Yeah.

527

It's a good

528

look.

529

Milo: It was a good time to be alive

530

Katie: it was,

531

Milo: in college.

532

Katie: yes.

533

Now not hot.

534

I mean, I don't know, maybe

guys think it's cute, but

535

it's, it's a, a denim staple

536

kind of became like hip hop

culture icons would wear this

537

Milo: you talking about the baggy jeans?

538

Katie: similar.

539

It's a lot of times they would

wear, this is gonna give it away,

540

but one shoulder strap, unbuckled.

541

Milo: Oh, the overalls?

542

Yeah.

543

Yeah, that's right.

544

Yeah.

545

The big baggy overalls with

one shoulder step undone.

546

Katie: Yep.

547

Yep.

548

That's, that's a trend.

549

Yeah.

550

Can you name a specific brand

of, of this type of thing

551

Milo: Levi's,

552

Katie: that Yes, probably,

553

Milo: I'm sure they must have done him

554

Katie: it's like brand, so Oshkosh Bash.

555

Mm-hmm.

556

And cross colors that

I'm not familiar with.

557

Were go-to names for this particular look,

558

apparently.

559

Milo: Yeah.

560

that's right.

561

I do remember Oshkosh posh.

562

Katie: Mm-hmm.

563

What type Fitting necklace accessory

564

Milo: Oh, the choker.

565

Katie: Yes.

566

Milo: Oh man.

567

Another hot one.

568

I knew this girl that wore those.

569

Oh, she was gorgeous.

570

Katie: Yeah.

571

I mean, mid nineties, I

572

mean, Yeah.

573

Became a must have jewelry item

574

I also had

575

one.

576

Milo: Yeah.

577

Katie: Can you name a store that you might

find this particular item in, in the mall?

578

Milo: Oh, mall store.

579

What was the oh, there was one and

it was like, kind of, everything was

580

really dark at the time in the store.

581

Like,

582

Katie: are thinking of hot topic?

583

Milo: topic.

584

Yeah.

585

I was thinking a hot topic.

586

Mm-hmm.

587

Katie: That is also a

store that sold these.

588

But this is like an accessory store.

589

They also have a bazillion

scrunchies that we all would buy.

590

Milo: Mm-hmm.

591

I'm not sure on this

592

one.

593

Katie: Claire's,

594

Milo: Okay.

595

I, I, I,

596

know Claire's the name.

597

Yeah.

598

Yeah.

599

But I would've never have

thought of that though.

600

Katie: This one you kind of

already said it's, it's adjacent.

601

But I think this is

probably more for boys.

602

It is a denim trend.

603

Milo: Okay.

604

The bag of jeans thing, the the

jorts, the, the Kevin Sp wears all the

605

time with his log baggy jean shorts,

606

Katie: No, but it's the saggy,

baggy jeans so that they were so

607

oversized that the hems would like

fray from being drug on the ground.

608

Tommy Hilfiger was a

popular brand at this time.

609

Is there another brand

that you can think of?

610

Milo: besides Levi Wrangler.

611

Katie: Jenko.

612

Jenko.

613

Remember that

614

Milo: no.

615

I remember the style.

616

Here's the thing, if you think

617

The women looked gorgeous and

the men looked disgusting.

618

Baggy jeans and flannel shirts with a

like just rattle T-shirt underneath it.

619

Like it was just this complete

opposite of like styles wise.

620

And I remember the baggy jeans, I remember

once watching a guy kind of running across

621

the street and he had to like hike up

his jeans and hold onto 'em so he could

622

run across the street really quick.

623

And then he let go of his jeans

again and kind of they drop

624

down and does the cool walk.

625

Yeah.

626

People looked ridiculous.

627

Our

628

Katie: Yeah, there's a specific walk

629

I can picture like a bunch of

dopey, like white dudes, like short

630

dopey, like stoner white

dudes wearing this.

631

But this particular, this was kind

of a trend particularly with Tommy

632

Hilfiger, I guess they saw really

big sales hike after Snoop Dogg

633

wore a Hilfiger sweatshirt on SNL.

634

Milo: Ooh.

635

Katie: So they were, kind of

known then for this street wear.

636

And I can actually picture a girl

that I went to high school with

637

wore like all Tommy Hilfiger stuff

for her senior pictures it was

638

so much part of our like culture.

639

Milo: He was very

popular around that time.

640

You're right, a lot of people were

wearing Tommy Hilfiger type stuff.

641

Katie: Yeah.

642

Well, Milo,

643

you did pretty good.

644

You did pretty

645

Milo: completely suck, I

guess, but got some of it.

646

Katie: Yeah, I would

say those were harder.

647

I wanted to purposefully

make these questions harder.

648

'cause I feel like trivia is

usually a little too easy.

649

And sometimes when I have

guests that are not American,

650

a lot of the pop culture things are,

they're a little harder for them.

651

I apparently but without further ado,

shall we get into Baby's Day Out?

652

Milo: Oh, let's do it.

653

Yeah.

654

Katie: We, we shall so this movie, baby's

655

Pg obviously it is a little long for

this type of movie, about an hour and 40

656

minutes, but it's, IMDB rating is a 6.2,

657

which isn't bad.

658

That's pretty good.

659

Milo: I wanna know who's giving it those.

660

Right.

661

Well, if we can get into this film a

662

Katie: we will.

663

Milo: And, and I should preface

it's, I'm not the target

664

audience for this film at all.

665

Katie: Who would you say

is the target audience?

666

Milo: well, I think maybe that's probably

part of the problem with this film,

667

because I think the target audience

for this film is people too young to

668

watch this film and appreciate it.

669

'Cause if you're old enough to watch

it, you probably think it's stupid.

670

If you're a parent watching it, you're

watching it because you want your kid to

671

watch it if you're a child watching it.

672

I, I don't, I don't know.

673

I don't know if it would be interesting.

674

I don't know who is the target

audience for this six year olds.

675

Katie: You know, well, we will get into

676

it.

677

I would say John Hughes having done this

season after the success of Home Alone.

678

And Home alone.

679

Two, he made so many movies that

just kind of tried to recreate that.

680

Almost all of them did

not succeed in doing so.

681

I have some specific thoughts about

where Babies' Day outfits among all

682

of those movies that we'll get to.

683

But the players for this movie, we

have a director that we have not

684

talked about yet on Retro Made,

and I think there's a reason why.

685

His name is Patrick Reed Johnson.

686

He doesn't have very

many well-known credits.

687

And he was initially hired to direct

another kind of knockoff of, of Home

688

Alone, Dennis Aena, the year earlier.

689

Now Patrick Reid Johnson apparently

was trying to expand on some of the

690

concepts and Hughes fired him because

he didn't like the fact that he was

691

kind of trying to change his script.

692

So he hired Nick Castle

to direct that movie.

693

So after that, Hughes actually

called Johnson to apologize

694

and offered him this movie.

695

It seems Hughes can ha he's a very

specific personality, a as I'm learning.

696

So he and this Patrick Reed Johnson

did not get along with Hughes.

697

Clearly.

698

He got fired from one job and then

he was hired for this and they

699

were continuously fighting over

different cuts poor test screenings.

700

So they both got stressed out and

just decided to be done with it.

701

But.

702

I also read that after a bad test

screening they got in a heated argument

703

regarding the movie and they reached

a, a mutual agreement to meet the

704

following day to discuss possible

solutions for improving the film.

705

However, later that evening is when the

announcement of John Candy's passing

706

was announced and that news given

Hughes and John Candy were so close,

707

really, really, really affected Hughes.

708

So he just completely stopped giving

a shit and didn't communicate after

709

that at all anymore with the director.

710

So, thoughts about this?

711

Milo: that's understandable.

712

I mean, if he already was not happy with

the film and just not in the mindset

713

of really bothering with it all that

much anymore, and then your good friend

714

like that dies, I can kind of see that.

715

I can kind of see him like

being, you know what, I'm done.

716

I got paid, my job's done here.

717

I'm, you know,

718

I'm John Hughes.

719

I'll move on.

720

You know, I'll survive.

721

Katie: That is true.

722

Apparently he was extremely hands-on

and involved with this particular

723

pre-production process of Baby's Day Out.

724

But by the middle of filming even some

staff and crew kind of got annoyed

725

'cause he just completely backed off

leaving them frustrated with him.

726

Even while they were still

filming and I learned that there

727

was a script he was writing.

728

So that he was trying

to get off the ground.

729

So he has a tendency to do do that.

730

He's like not finished with one

project yet, and he, then he gets

731

really excited about another one.

732

Have you heard of a script

that he wrote called The Be

733

Milo: I've heard of it, but that's

all I know is that I heard something

734

about it, but it never happened.

735

Right.

736

It was

737

just something that he wrote.

738

Yeah.

739

Katie: yeah, it unmade Live Action,

slapstick Comedy about a Be Who Constantly

740

Distracts a developer who is almost done

building his latest project at this time.

741

That was the type of movie

John Hughes was involved with.

742

All of these, like Dennis the Manis

Baby's Day Out you know, like there was

743

Home Alone three I'm missing several

more that are just not coming to mind.

744

Just not, not good replications

of the Home Alone formula.

745

So, so anyway.

746

If you have not seen Babies'

Day Out, which I hadn't had,

747

have you seen this before?

748

Watching it for the show?

749

Milo: No, I had heard of it, but I had

never seen it or knew anything about it

750

other than it follows a baby that wanders

through the city and comedy ensues.

751

Katie: Yes, that's

exactly what it's about.

752

Babies' Day Out follows a wealthy family's

infant who's kidnapped by three bumbling

753

criminals only for the baby to crawl

his way through a citywide adventure

754

unknowingly outsmarting them, and a

return as the crook struggled to keep up.

755

The baby follows the path of his

favorite storybook titled Baby's

756

Day Out, turning Their Plan into

a Chaotic Slapstick Nightmare.

757

So on its face, that sounds like

not a bad kids movie, right?

758

Like if you just read the synopsis

of Home Alone, it doesn't sound that

759

dissimilar like a, like an 8-year-old,

like outwitting these bumbling criminals.

760

But there was just, there was

something special and magical about

761

that, that he Hughes was just not

able to replicate with any of these

762

other one-off or even subsequent

like home alone three, not good,

763

Really not good.

764

So this, I will say as a spoiler,

I like Baby's Day Out significantly

765

more than home Alone three.

766

Milo: I have not seen Home Alone

three, so I can't say on that one.

767

Although I, I, this is a problem I

think a lot of filmmakers and movie

768

studios have, is they have something

successful and then they just kinda

769

rehash it over and over again.

770

It gets tired over time and it's

not funny anymore because it's

771

funny, the first time you see it,

772

Katie: Yes.

773

Milo: you know, it's not funny jokes.

774

You know, you see somebody slip

and fall and, and hit their nuts on

775

something, first time around, it's funny.

776

Hit the third or fourth time

around, it's not funny anymore

777

because you know the humor.

778

You know it.

779

And, and that's what this is exactly.

780

There's so many recycled comedic slapstick

bits from home alone in this film.

781

It's it, and at least in home

alone, you've got the Macaulay

782

Culkin's character outwitting these

783

Katie: On purpose.

784

Milo: on purpose.

785

Exactly.

786

So you can, you can root for this is

just a baby crawling around in the street

787

that somehow magically never gets seen

by like anyone in this entire city except

788

for like two people at various points.

789

So,

790

Yeah, it's, harder.

791

So

792

I don't

793

Katie: that's where the, like him not

being seen, I mean like everybody's just

794

so busy with their life that they don't,

795

Milo: They don't see a baby crawling

directly underneath their feet,

796

Katie: Yeah.

797

Or crawling across

798

a busy street or anything.

799

I mean, so that's where like the

cartoonish it's, it's sort of like

800

Looney Tunes in that way, combined

with a lot of the slapstick stuff.

801

We'll get into our thoughts, but

let's talk about the cast and some

802

of the players for in the movie.

803

And I will say the cast is probably

why I like this movie way more

804

than like Dennis the Menace or

Home Alone three, for example.

805

The baby is played by twins

that you wouldn't know.

806

But that's, that was common practice.

807

Adam, Robert Wharton and Jacob Joseph

Wharton, and the baby's name here.

808

Rich kid name Bennington, Austin, AKA bank

caught, well, IV fourth, his mother is

809

played by Laura Flynn Boyle it was kind

of a different role for her, I guess.

810

She had gone on to play kind of more

high powered women and not like a

811

mother and wife, but she was fine.

812

She, she was not outstanding.

813

Like she's not one of the cast that I

was like, oh my gosh, they're so good.

814

Oh, and the father here is

let's see, what's his name?

815

Matthew gla and he plays Bennington,

Bing, not bank, but Bing caught while

816

ii.

817

He's a familiar face.

818

Did you

819

recognize

820

Milo: him.

821

Yeah.

822

He's, he's popped up in a

lot of stuff over the years.

823

Mm-hmm.

824

Katie: A lot of TV work.

825

Right.

826

And I, a lot of these, so I've seen

er, but I don't recall him from er, but

827

that's probably his most notable role.

828

He was Dr.

829

Dale Edson as a recurring character on

er, and I feel like I've seen the show

830

Army Wives, but I didn't really get

into it, but I feel like I've seen it.

831

He played Lieutenant Colonel Evan

Connors on that, and he's currently

832

on the TV show, the Rookie.

833

So that is Matthew Gla

834

the dad.

835

Milo: yeah.

836

Yeah.

837

Done a few movies and stuff.

838

Yeah, he's got a lot

of credits to his name.

839

He's one of those.

840

You'd totally recognize him.

841

He is not a big name, so you'd

be like, oh, I know that guy,

842

but I don't know his name.

843

He's

844

Katie: know his face though, for sure.

845

Milo: Yeah.

846

He's very recommend.

847

Katie: Did you like our criminals

848

Milo: You know, it's,

I, I like those actors.

849

I mean, I don't, I don't know

Brian Healy at all from this.

850

This is the only thing I've ever seen

him and he plays kind of the big doofus

851

one, but Joe Montia and Joe Pan Panio,

852

Katie: Yeah.

853

It's hard to, it's a, it's a mouth of

854

panto.

855

Milo: Pantano,

856

yeah, there you go.

857

Joey.

858

Joey Packed obviously are brilliant and

I mean, and you know, Joe Pano, you know,

859

can do comedy from the Goonies, right?

860

Because he was so good in

that and he's got range.

861

And Joe Monteya is good because you

think of him as more of a dramatic actor.

862

And so to see him doing slap

sticky comedy kind of stuff,

863

it's fun to see him as well.

864

So I, I thought the both

of them were brilliant.

865

Yeah, Brian was fine too, but again, he

just kind of plays the big kind of goon,

866

Katie: he had some fun moments

867

though.

868

So yeah, so Joe Mont Montana

plays like kind of the head goon,

869

right?

870

His name is Eddie.

871

He's in the Criminal Minds

TV show, which I don't watch.

872

But he's gotten pretty, like, he's

a well-known name, maybe from that.

873

He voices Fat Tony on The Simpsons.

874

I don't watch that show either, but if

anybody knows that of his earlier roles,

875

he well, maybe not one of his earlier,

876

And he,

877

Milo: Was it that late?

878

That

879

Katie: it might've been, ah, but

880

he plays,

881

Milo: right.

882

Like I, yeah, I mean, it

883

was, I'm thinking late

884

Yeah.

885

Katie: I could be wrong.

886

Milo: No, I think you're right.

887

You're,

888

I,

889

Katie: plays Joey Zaza in that.

890

And he was nominated for some

Emmys for things I have not seen.

891

He played Dean Martin in the Rat Pack

and then some other miniseries movies

892

or specials that he was nominated for

the Starter Wife and the last Dawn.

893

But every, you know, Joe Nia very

specifically, so he plays Eddie the

894

main bad guy and like maybe secondhand

guy is Norby, and that's Joey Pants.

895

I love him, if he's in something, I think.

896

This, I'm not used to seeing

him in this kind of a thing.

897

Same with Joe Montia.

898

But Bad Boys, he's

really comedic in that he

899

plays their like their boss.

900

Right?

901

Yeah.

902

Milo: Yeah.

903

Uhhuh.

904

Yeah, he's good in that.

905

Katie: Super well-known character actor.

906

I was just talking with someone

about the movie Lab Baba.

907

So this came to mind, he

plays Richie Valent's manager

908

in Lab Baba.

909

And we talked about him last season

on our Kurt Russell and Patrick Svey

910

season because he was in the main season

911

with Kurt Russell.

912

I bet you have not seen that

913

Milo: I have not seen that movie.

914

No.

915

Katie: Joey is in that

916

now Vico is played by Brian

Haley, and he's the lesser known.

917

I think he has a familiar face also.

918

Milo: I thought he was somebody else.

919

'cause he does have a familiar

face and I'm like, oh, is

920

that that such and such guy?

921

And then I looked him up a little

bit and I'm like, Nope, that's

922

not the guy I was thinking of at

923

Katie: Okay.

924

He was in Grand

925

Milo: a ton of stuff though.

926

Yeah.

927

Katie: Like nothing

928

real big, I guess.

929

He did have a recurring, I, I saw that he

had a recurring role on the TV show wings.

930

Like that's probably the most

episodes of a TV show he had.

931

He's also in Little Giants, which

I can't really picture right

932

now, but I actually kind of got

a kick out of Vico several times.

933

Just little things that he would do, like

, they just kidnapped the baby and it's

934

three criminals taking care of a baby.

935

Like that part of it.

936

I was like, oh, this is kind of funny.

937

I'm like, this is, I like this.

938

That's funny.

939

They don't know what they're doing.

940

It's like three men and a

baby, but criminal version.

941

And in that, the scene where they're

trying to change his diaper and get

942

milk warmed up for him or whatever Vico

is shown eating fruit loops, but he

943

overfills his bowl like the mound of

cereal, and he's holding it with his

944

hand, like trying to keep it in the

bowl while he's pouring milk on it.

945

And I mean, it was just

something very specific.

946

But I, I don't know.

947

I, I kind of liked some of those

little things that these guys do.

948

Now, because these are rich

people, there's a nanny and

949

Cynthia Nixon plays the nanny.

950

Apparently her name is Gilbert team,

but do you recall them ever saying

951

Milo: I don't recall them

ever saying your name.

952

No,

953

Katie: don't either.

954

She's blonde in this, she's much younger.

955

And is she supposed to be British?

956

Milo: I think she's

supposed to be British.

957

She definitely uses a

bit of an accent in it.

958

Katie: I wasn't sure if

it was like rich, posh,

959

Milo: Well, maybe that's it.

960

Yeah, I was going with that.

961

She was like the British nanny because

that's what you do if you're rich.

962

You hire a British nanny to

take care of your child for you.

963

Katie: Mm-hmm.

964

So I wasn't entirely sure, but yeah,

she's probably supposed to be British.

965

Obviously Cynthia Nixon most famous

for playing Miranda on Sex in the city.

966

We have a very FBI agent esque

actor here playing an FBI agent

967

Dale Grissom is Fred Thompson.

968

Milo: Pretty much anytime you

need somebody to play a cop

969

in any form, you hire Fred Thompson.

970

If you look over his history, that's

kind of very similar types of roles.

971

Mm-hmm.

972

Katie: he's perfect for that kind of role.

973

We talked about him on the

Curly suit episode, and now

974

I'm like, was he a cop in that?

975

I can't recall

976

now.

977

But probably, again, these are rich

people, so they have a butler and I don't

978

think they say his name in it either,

979

but he's credited as Mr.

980

Andrews played by John Neville.

981

Also familiar face, like there's

a lot of these people in this that

982

you're like, I know that person.

983

But I couldn't find a show or

a movie that I was like, yes,

984

that's what I know him from.

985

But he had a recurring

guest role on the X-Files.

986

Milo: Oh yeah.

987

Okay.

988

Yeah,

989

Katie: Did you recognize the guy that the

police, he's like, oh, I saw the baby.

990

And then he's just really

trying to get a payday.

991

And he's like, oh, just across the street.

992

Milo: I remember the guy.

993

No.

994

Was I supposed to recognize him?

995

Katie: Yes.

996

Milo: Oh, who is

997

Katie: Mike Starr is his name,

998

Milo: Uhhuh.

999

Katie: He's a, a very

familiar character actor.

00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,320

Like he's tall, Burley

has this deep voice.

00:45:57,380 --> 00:46:03,800

He usually plays mobsters or

police officers or, or like blue

00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,570

collar workers or tough guys.

00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:06,980

And

00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:08,030

Milo: bar, huh?

00:46:08,330 --> 00:46:09,590

Katie: Mike Starr with

00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:13,620

two Rs he played Frenchy and Goodfellas.

00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:15,450

Milo: Oh geez.

00:46:15,450 --> 00:46:16,950

I do recognize him now.

00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:18,240

Like I just looked him up.

00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,980

I did not put this together when I

watched it, but he, you're right.

00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,330

I totally recognize him.

00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,150

I just looked him up on I mdb

and his like from his picture.

00:46:27,475 --> 00:46:27,895

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:28,410

Yeah.

00:46:28,415 --> 00:46:29,695

Totally recognizable.

00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:30,660

He.

00:46:31,245 --> 00:46:34,185

We talked about him in the

Uncle Buck episode because he

00:46:34,185 --> 00:46:37,425

plays the clown that John Candy.

00:46:37,875 --> 00:46:39,195

I think he punches him out

00:46:39,555 --> 00:46:40,725

when he comes or something.

00:46:40,755 --> 00:46:43,605

'cause he's a very obnoxious clown.

00:46:43,925 --> 00:46:49,205

There's two other not like they're in it

for just a short while, but I wanted to

00:46:49,205 --> 00:46:50,735

bring them up because we've covered them.

00:46:50,865 --> 00:46:55,185

They're Hughes movie alums that

he comes back to several times.

00:46:55,185 --> 00:47:00,105

One is Eddie Bracken, and this

was his final live action film.

00:47:00,565 --> 00:47:05,005

Eddie Bracken was the like the

older man in the veteran's home.

00:47:05,515 --> 00:47:06,085

Milo: Oh, that guy.

00:47:06,085 --> 00:47:06,655

Okay.

00:47:06,655 --> 00:47:06,665

Yeah.

00:47:08,185 --> 00:47:13,388

Katie: He played basically

Walt Disney in vacation.

00:47:13,801 --> 00:47:20,958

and he was also, I think the toy

store owner in, was it home Alone too?

00:47:22,248 --> 00:47:22,728

Milo: Hmm.

00:47:23,043 --> 00:47:25,113

Katie: the toy store owner in home alone.

00:47:25,113 --> 00:47:25,653

Two.

00:47:26,073 --> 00:47:26,883

Eddie Bracken.

00:47:26,988 --> 00:47:30,018

Milo: So he just likes throwing him in

these little spots throughout his films.

00:47:30,078 --> 00:47:30,258

That's

00:47:30,273 --> 00:47:30,313

cool.

00:47:31,023 --> 00:47:32,823

Katie: And also Neil Flynn.

00:47:33,093 --> 00:47:38,883

We just talked about him 'cause he also

played a police officer in home alone.

00:47:38,883 --> 00:47:39,453

Three.

00:47:39,753 --> 00:47:40,803

So Neil Flynn

00:47:40,833 --> 00:47:40,983

Milo: Ooh.

00:47:41,313 --> 00:47:41,523

Yeah.

00:47:41,523 --> 00:47:41,733

Neil

00:47:41,733 --> 00:47:42,033

Flynn's

00:47:42,063 --> 00:47:42,633

Katie: police officer.

00:47:43,083 --> 00:47:43,503

Yeah.

00:47:43,773 --> 00:47:45,153

Milo: most famous for Scrubs.

00:47:45,723 --> 00:47:46,923

Katie: That's Neil Flynn.

00:47:47,043 --> 00:47:47,523

Yes.

00:47:47,973 --> 00:47:52,610

Bruce Bratton, I don't know if I'm

saying that properly, but he did the

00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:59,360

score, the music for this, which we have

talked about him before because he also

00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,520

Hughes Miracle on 34th Street and last

00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:09,600

season Tombstone, he scored tombstone.

00:48:09,665 --> 00:48:11,460

Milo: He tore, he scored tombstone.

00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:14,790

I would not have put those

together because, I mean,

00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:17,340

tombstone is such a fantastic film.

00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:24,005

To go from that to this but I will say the

music really plays a role in this film.

00:48:24,305 --> 00:48:28,235

Like throughout the entire thing,

you notice it and it really goes

00:48:28,235 --> 00:48:33,685

along with the slap stick and comedic

to help highlight the,, the film.

00:48:34,015 --> 00:48:36,685

It is noticeable and we even talked

about that when we watched it.

00:48:36,685 --> 00:48:40,105

We're like, you really notice the

how the music plays a role in this

00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,020

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:48:41,950 --> 00:48:50,180

He only had three weeks to score this also

because originally Jerry Goldsmith, Oscar

00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:52,610

winning composer was slated to score this.

00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:53,690

But he had to bow out.

00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:57,440

00:48:57,590 --> 00:48:58,850

I don't know what that is.

00:48:59,135 --> 00:49:03,455

Milo: It's it's kind of a superhero

action film starring the shadow.

00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:04,820

Katie: The shadow.

00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,120

So Bruce was brought in to score this.

00:49:08,220 --> 00:49:12,470

And then other movies that you'd know

him from Harry and The Hendersons.

00:49:12,830 --> 00:49:14,000

Milo: Oh, the movie?

00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:15,290

Yeah.

00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:15,560

All right.

00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:20,990

Katie: Disney's Rescuers down

under, as well as Homeward Bound God

00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:22,670

that'll Get You right.

00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:23,240

Milo: yeah.

00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,190

I love those rescuers movies.

00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:25,640

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:26,390

Milo: yeah,

00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:30,440

Katie: And also Bruce got an

Oscar nomination for his score of

00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,630

Silverado, which I have not seen.

00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:39,830

the 20th Century Fox Fanfare

00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:41,030

sound.

00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,270

Milo: Oh, the, the sound effect that Oh,

00:49:44,660 --> 00:49:44,900

wow.

00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,260

Good for him.

00:49:46,445 --> 00:49:48,905

Katie: Yeah, so that's

Bruce Broughton Broten.

00:49:49,335 --> 00:49:51,225

I don't know how to

properly pronounce that.

00:49:51,225 --> 00:49:53,895

Someone might correct me if I am wrong.

00:49:54,495 --> 00:49:54,765

Okay.

00:49:54,765 --> 00:49:58,725

So this movie did not make money.

00:49:58,725 --> 00:50:00,045

It lost money.

00:50:00,915 --> 00:50:03,775

There were contrary dollar figures.

00:50:04,015 --> 00:50:09,415

So I read both 17 million gross

as well as 30 million gross.

00:50:09,685 --> 00:50:14,320

Either way, failure, because

its budget was nearly 50

00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,405

million, 48 million to be exact,

00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:19,315

Milo: Wh where did that money go

00:50:19,615 --> 00:50:20,725

on this film?

00:50:20,815 --> 00:50:21,805

Wow.

00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,320

Katie: At the time it was unheard

of for a film that didn't have

00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,160

any major leading stars in the

cast to get a budget like that.

00:50:32,090 --> 00:50:32,540

Milo: Yeah.

00:50:32,540 --> 00:50:32,840

Yeah.

00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,260

They were all, I mean, their names

that we've recognized, and I know Laura

00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:39,505

Flynn Boyle was pretty big in the, in

the nineties, but there's still no way.

00:50:39,505 --> 00:50:41,830

None of them would've gotten

that huge of a paycheck.

00:50:42,925 --> 00:50:48,115

Katie: This is the first film of his

three picture, $50 million contract

00:50:48,115 --> 00:50:53,215

with Fox, which produced this movie,

miracle on 34th Street and Home Alone.

00:50:53,215 --> 00:50:53,725

Three.

00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:55,660

Milo: Oh, Fox must have been pissed.

00:50:55,795 --> 00:50:56,095

Katie: Yep.

00:50:56,155 --> 00:51:00,745

Because all of those

were box office failures

00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:04,390

Milo: They're like, oh, we

got him after his prime.

00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:04,840

Demi.

00:51:05,095 --> 00:51:08,095

Katie: the Let's capitalize

on this home alone business.

00:51:08,095 --> 00:51:09,895

Can you just make that

over and over again?

00:51:10,855 --> 00:51:16,833

Now, clearly the way that the movie

ends, it is set up for a sequel, right?

00:51:16,853 --> 00:51:17,273

Milo: Mm-hmm.

00:51:18,153 --> 00:51:19,833

Katie: Babies Trip to China.

00:51:20,838 --> 00:51:24,108

That was a planned sequel,

but it did get canceled.

00:51:24,468 --> 00:51:25,068

Milo.

00:51:25,348 --> 00:51:25,638

Milo: Yeah.

00:51:26,343 --> 00:51:30,763

Katie: yeah, so both commercially

clearly, but also critically derided

00:51:31,373 --> 00:51:37,143

so the sequel got scrapped, but

they used it to dissuade criminals

00:51:37,143 --> 00:51:40,173

from stealing a much more popular

00:51:40,473 --> 00:51:41,193

print

00:51:41,673 --> 00:51:42,603

Milo: I heard this

00:51:42,633 --> 00:51:45,243

Katie: of a movie in, in 97.

00:51:45,303 --> 00:51:51,568

So, so it did technically exist for a time

in 97, but as a way of throwing off would

00:51:51,568 --> 00:51:55,858

be thieves from stealing prints meant

to be sent to theaters because it was

00:51:55,858 --> 00:52:01,448

used to obscure its actual movies title,

00:52:01,958 --> 00:52:03,068

which was.

00:52:03,998 --> 00:52:04,898

Yes.

00:52:05,588 --> 00:52:06,368

That's wild.

00:52:06,368 --> 00:52:07,368

That theater it doesn't,

00:52:07,803 --> 00:52:11,043

Milo: They're like, nobody's gonna

steal Prince of Baby's Day out too.

00:52:11,463 --> 00:52:14,193

So let's the Prince of Titanic in that

00:52:14,478 --> 00:52:17,208

Katie: but is this a thing that

was happening that they had to

00:52:17,268 --> 00:52:18,978

you know, make plans against?

00:52:18,978 --> 00:52:19,758

Apparently,

00:52:19,773 --> 00:52:25,563

Milo: apparently I wasn't aware that that

was an issue, a thing, but apparently so.

00:52:26,023 --> 00:52:27,193

Katie: That's our cast of characters.

00:52:27,193 --> 00:52:29,743

That's who made Baby's day out.

00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:31,133

I hadn't seen this.

00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:32,333

You hadn't either.

00:52:32,783 --> 00:52:38,083

What were your expectations going

in and did your watching experience

00:52:38,083 --> 00:52:39,883

differ from your expectations?

00:52:40,103 --> 00:52:43,598

Milo: so I tried to go in, 'cause

again, I hadn't watched the

00:52:43,598 --> 00:52:44,678

trailer or anything like that.

00:52:44,678 --> 00:52:46,538

I just knew the basics of the plot.

00:52:47,078 --> 00:52:50,858

And so I tried to go in looking at it

from the point of view of like, if I was

00:52:50,858 --> 00:52:55,388

a parent watching this with my kid, type

of an attitude, would I appreciate this.

00:52:56,183 --> 00:52:57,653

I even struggled with that.

00:52:57,653 --> 00:53:00,653

I feel like if I was watching

it with a child, the child

00:53:00,653 --> 00:53:01,823

probably would've been bored

00:53:02,983 --> 00:53:03,403

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:53:03,713 --> 00:53:05,363

Milo: this film in lost interest.

00:53:05,933 --> 00:53:08,933

It does have good moments and there

were things that I picked up, like

00:53:08,933 --> 00:53:11,783

I mentioned, the music I thought

was really nicely done throughout.

00:53:11,883 --> 00:53:19,226

As you mentioned, great actors probably

struggling to, to do this convincingly.

00:53:19,286 --> 00:53:22,756

They're like and I, and I appreciated

the fact that now if this were made,

00:53:22,846 --> 00:53:24,796

they probably would've c gid a lot of it.

00:53:24,916 --> 00:53:25,336

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:53:25,696 --> 00:53:31,216

Milo: So they actually did really good

work with putting the baby in situations,

00:53:31,216 --> 00:53:33,586

I'm sure a lot of green screen and angles.

00:53:33,586 --> 00:53:36,886

And, you know, there, I think there's a

scene that looks like a pretty obvious

00:53:36,886 --> 00:53:42,226

animatronic baby crossing that the first

beam when the baby leaves the, the first

00:53:42,226 --> 00:53:47,406

building that they're in and crosses

that little beam before Joe Montan falls.

00:53:48,756 --> 00:53:50,196

That looked kind of animatronic.

00:53:50,196 --> 00:53:55,146

He was very like but in general I do

think they did a really good job with the

00:53:55,146 --> 00:53:56,496

way it was shot and the special effects.

00:53:56,496 --> 00:53:59,436

So like that kind of stuff I keyed in,

00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:00,031

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:54:00,576 --> 00:54:05,046

Milo: but I struggle with my

suspension and disbelief with the

00:54:05,046 --> 00:54:09,246

number of times that these guys would

be dead from their various falls

00:54:09,246 --> 00:54:11,166

and injuries and stuff like that.

00:54:11,556 --> 00:54:14,046

I thought the gorilla was

nicely done too, actually.

00:54:14,046 --> 00:54:17,286

Like it was very believably

done, gorilla costume,

00:54:18,166 --> 00:54:20,566

Katie: It's beyond man and a gorilla suit.

00:54:20,626 --> 00:54:22,601

While there, like there

were operators of it.

00:54:23,821 --> 00:54:28,111

I wanna say it was in like a much more

dramatic movie, also, like Gorillas

00:54:28,111 --> 00:54:29,461

in the Mist or something like that.

00:54:29,461 --> 00:54:32,431

That might, but, but yeah, they

did a great job with Gorilla.

00:54:32,521 --> 00:54:32,821

Milo: Yeah.

00:54:32,821 --> 00:54:36,601

Yeah, it was really very believably

looking like, it wasn't like just some

00:54:36,601 --> 00:54:38,521

dude in a gorilla costume essentially.

00:54:39,151 --> 00:54:41,161

So it had a lot of good qualities to it.

00:54:41,701 --> 00:54:46,041

But yeah, it is just some of these

prank falls and injuries, I'm

00:54:46,041 --> 00:54:47,391

just like, I'm just not buying it.

00:54:47,481 --> 00:54:53,661

Like I'm not buying their lack of extreme

injuries, and I couldn't buy into the fact

00:54:53,661 --> 00:54:57,711

that nobody in the city sees this fricking

child crawling around all over the place.

00:54:57,891 --> 00:55:00,981

Who, by the way, why is this

child's hands not black by

00:55:00,981 --> 00:55:02,901

the end of crawling

around on the ground, you

00:55:02,931 --> 00:55:04,041

Katie: I know.

00:55:04,041 --> 00:55:04,521

Oh my God.

00:55:04,881 --> 00:55:10,691

It's not like Ferris Bueller, but in

that we kind of get a tour of Chicago

00:55:10,721 --> 00:55:15,731

through the movie like we did with Ris

Bueller and obviously John Hughes Chicago.

00:55:16,031 --> 00:55:17,801

Yes, go on.

00:55:18,946 --> 00:55:23,621

Milo: It, it was just, it is that that

balance of trying to buy into this world

00:55:24,101 --> 00:55:28,811

for a family, sitting down and watching

it, and I think maybe if it would've been

00:55:28,811 --> 00:55:30,821

animated, it actually would've been better

00:55:30,916 --> 00:55:31,336

Katie: Mm-hmm.

00:55:31,421 --> 00:55:34,061

Milo: because then you could

buy into that a little bit.

00:55:34,646 --> 00:55:34,936

Katie: Yeah.

00:55:35,216 --> 00:55:37,241

'cause there were a lot of cartoony

00:55:37,661 --> 00:55:38,951

elements to it.

00:55:39,161 --> 00:55:44,771

However, part of me wants to play

the devil's advocate in that.

00:55:44,771 --> 00:55:51,641

Well, you could say the same about

Marvin Harry with, you know, what

00:55:51,641 --> 00:55:53,291

happens to them in home alone?

00:55:53,351 --> 00:55:53,591

They'd

00:55:53,591 --> 00:55:55,121

also be dead several times.

00:55:55,121 --> 00:55:55,721

Right?

00:55:56,171 --> 00:56:00,821

So why, why are we okay with it

for home alone and not for baby?

00:56:00,821 --> 00:56:01,091

Stay out.

00:56:01,466 --> 00:56:03,506

Milo: And I think part of it

has to do with, we saw it for

00:56:03,506 --> 00:56:04,886

the first time in home alone,

00:56:05,381 --> 00:56:05,601

Katie: Mm,