Friendly and funny, Chip Coffey in person doesn’t seem like the type who seems to have an open line with dead people. At paranormal conventions in the vendor room, he’s the boisterous laugh and endearing voice you can hear from the other side of the room. Living in Atlanta now, Chip’s charm feels more Southern than his Upstate New York upbringing would normally lead you to believe. But his unassuming and friendly manner, belie someone whose messages from the other side must be connecting with people, because his readings are always sold out

Chip Coffey first gained national recognition as a psychic consulting on the infamous ghost-hunting reality show Paranormal State and that turned into a deal for his own show Psychic Kids , where he’d help youngsters who were showing evidence of psychic powers to not be afraid and assisting them in developing their gifts.

He’s guested on plenty of paranormal shows since Psychic Kids left the air and he’ll be a full cast member of Kindred Spirits when that show returs for it’s fourth season in 2020.

Is Chip for real? I dunno, he didn’t read me and I wasn’t testing him. He has delivered comfort to tens of thousands of people across the country and he has a message of tolerance, compassion, and hope. I respect all of those things.

I never trust anything I see on TV, but people that I know and like have sworn that he’s received messages for them of things that they cannot believe he could have known. What I do know is that he’s a good talker and in our conversation we talk about:

• How Chip started receiving messages from the dead suddenly in his mid-40s
• How regular people (normies like me) can develop more of our psychic abilities
• His answer to the Bay Area Skeptics that tried to hoax him with a fictional deceased family member
• More on The Phillip Experiment and how intense belief creates paranormal experiences

Welcome to See You on the Other Mike, where the world

of the mysterious collides with the world of entertainment.

A discussion of art, music, movies, spirituality,

the weird, and self discovery. And

now, your hosts, musicians and entertainers

who have their own weakness for the weird, Mike and

Wendy from the band Sunspot. Episode

286, Chip Coffee.

Now you guys, might have seen Chip on

Paranormal State or Mike Kids. I think Paranormal State's the first

time, that I had had seen him work, And

now, I mean, he's in shows like, Kindred Spirits. He's

been in a bunch. He's been on Larry King Live, everything

from The Haunted Collector, to Good Morning America,

and CBS Sunday Morning. So Chip obviously has done his time

in spreading the word. He's a psychic medium, paranormal

investigator, and I've seen him speak, several times at the

Michigan, Paracon. And we're excited because Chip is

coming to Wisconsin for a special event, Saint Patrick's

Day at the Palace Theatre in the Wisconsin Dells, and we'll be talking a little

bit more about that in a second. But for right now, let's welcome

Chip Coffey to see you on the other side. How are you doing this fine

morning? I am doing very well. Thank you so much. Alright.

I think for people who maybe they've seen you on television

or maybe they're not too familiar, or they they know they see you, like, walk

into a scene, give your psychic,

impressions and things like that or, you know, what you're kind of seeing or

feeling at a time. And, to me, when I see

somebody walk in you know, like walk into a scene on a TV show or

whatever and be like, okay. I'm psychic. Here's the deal.

I'm always like, alright. I would have liked to learn a little bit more about

that person before they just kinda showed up and started

saying they were getting messages from Beyond. So, you know, I was

wondering a little bit about, like, what was the moment that you

discovered that you might be different than

the average person, at least when it comes to spirituality? Well, I I

consider myself different in a lot of ways than the average person. Normal is not

a word that was ever used to describe me in any

shape, form, or fashion. As far as the psychic

stuff goes, I can tell you that

I think everyone has some level of psychic ability. In

some, it's enhanced more than in others. My abilities

first manifested themselves prior to my even having

conscious memory of it. I was told that as a child, I would be playing

with my toys and all of a sudden I would stop and look at the

phone and shortly thereafter the phone would ring. And

later on, when I became verbal, I would say a name, look at the phone,

and that person would call shortly thereafter. So you were Mike you were

like caller ID before caller ID was there? Early you were 100%

correct. I was Mike the early version of caller ID, you know, back

in the 19 fifties. So, you know, I I began to

know things when I would go places about people, places, or things.

I lived in a haunted house when I was an adolescent boy.

And, you know, it just sort of it the abilities just sort of grew a

bit and manifested. I didn't start talking to

the dead until I was in my forties. I think that gift

was given when I was ready to receive it. And I was working

in the travel industry and one of my coworkers, her deceased brother, started

communicating with me and I thought I'd gone out of my mind. But I found

out that the information I was receiving, the messages that I was receiving

were indeed valid and that sort of flung the door open.

And since that time, which was in

2001, I've done

thousands of readings for clients and talked to

thousands of dead people. And and that sounds crazy for me to

even say today, but it just it is what it is. K.

So you had, like, a a regular life before you came

into the paranormal world. Actually, I still have a regular life

because I certainly don't consider myself psychic medium chip coffee Wendy.

Sure. 365, 66, and leap year. You know, I I

when I'm working, I'm working. When I'm not working, I'm doing what everybody else does.

I'm letting my dogs out in the backyard. I'm, you know,

emptying the dishwasher. I'm watching my favorite TV shows.

So I I lead a very normal third

dimension Mike. But when I'm working and I need to focus on my

work, that's when I tap in and see what I'm gonna get.

And so, you know, so you were saying that, the first chance you had to

or the, you know, that the gift of speaking to the dead, you

know, came in the 2000. But

if you've had some kind of ability or been able to tap into

something, was it something that

you real because I'm thinking about when I was a kid, and I've all we

watched Star Wars, and I was old enough to where, I think I saw

but the the first Star Wars movie I saw in the theater was Return of

the Jedi. And so I'm thinking, like, how can I get some of

Luke's powers? Like, you know, everybody tried to like, at a pencil or whatever, tried

to use the force to draw to them. And so

and, you know, or tried to predict the future or tried to, like, oh, if

I think hard enough, then this girl's gonna like me or at least know she

you know, all those kind of things that as a kid, you've you know, the

silly things that go through your head. But for Mike, at least,

nothing ever happened. Was there something, that happened

to you in particular that you remember where you're like, I

I I dreamed this and this happened or I could predict it and this

happened, and then you're like, holy crap. This is more than just

an intuition. This is something that,

is feels very real. First, you said the

word powers, and that's a word that I don't ever

use to describe my abilities. I describe them as a gift

because I do believe that the abilities that I have are a gift from

God or skill set or talent. Those are

words I use. Power seems just too grandiose to me. Sure.

And I never want to to give that impression that I

think what I can do is is

grandiose. It's just become a real part of

who I am. As far as

an exact moment or moments that I might remember,

one thing comes to Mike. I remember being a kid

and my mom has had this friend whose name was Hazel.

And Hazel was, by that point in time, 40 ish

or so. And it it

would have been unlikely to say what I was going to say to her.

But I climbed out of bed one morning. This was when we were living in

a haunted house in upstate New York. Okay. I climbed out of bed and

Hazel was downstairs having coffee with my mom. She'd come by for a

visit. And I

greeted her and we chatted for a minute and my mom said,

Hazel has something she wants to tell tell you. And

I blurted out, oh, she's pregnant. When's the baby

coming? Now you wouldn't have thought because most

ladies at that point in time were not having babies into their late

thirties and forties Right. When I was a kid back in the sixties

or early seventies. But Hazel was indeed

pregnant. So that was just one of those moments that I knew something

that I couldn't know pragmatically by using

my 5 human senses. It was information that I'd received

from a kind of an unknown source. Sure. And it had to be

intuitive information. And it it those are a lot

of the things that I knew when I was little were just little things. You

know, small items of information about

people, places, and things that just you shouldn't be able

to know using your black human senses. Well and, you know, I think

little examples like that, because we always, you know, say with psychics or

whatever, well, if you're so psychic, why don't you win the lottery? Blah blah blah.

But it it's it's little things like that, like, oh, I know Hazel's pregnant

or I know who's gonna call. It it's almost instead

of, Mike, you like to say the grandiose use of the word powers, you know,

instead of these mighty psychic x man powers that you might have, it's

more Mike, being in tune

with what's going to happen. Really, you're absolutely correct. It's more like

tapping into information and not I have no idea how I do what I

do or how anyone does what they do in the paranormal or

spiritual or psychic medium realm. I have no clue.

I don't know how this stuff happens. It's just in my head and I

get the information and I share it. So

I I I can't tell you how people do what they do. People like

me do what they do. It's it's it's a

mystery to me. It just happens. When you made the jump to,

starting to do these readings, like you said, talking to I mean, thousands of people

and you're at, paranormal conventions all over the country and,

like, trips and, I mean, when I look at, you know,

Chip Coffee's webpage or, like, your events or things like that, you're always all over

the place. And so now you're doing this stuff all the time. But making that

jump, like, I I feel that, going from somebody who just

says, like, well, I'm a little bit psychic or whatever. And

sometimes I tap into something, and it's pretty cool,

to, all right, you know, I'm gonna have psychic medium, or I'm gonna

have I Talk TO the Dead on my business card. Like, what kind

of emotional jump, was that for

you to actually move into the field? Let's talk about

that process. I certainly worked a lot of

what I call survival jobs before I started doing what I'm doing now.

Sure. Yeah. I worked in a lot of fields. I worked as

an actor. I worked as,

in the field of of regular counseling and psychology. I

worked for a head start program right out of college as a

special needs coordinator and a social

worker. I worked in a on the locked unit of a psychiatric

facility on the adolescent ward for a while. I worked in the

hospitality industry both in in hotel reservations

and in the travel industry as an agent.

And in those jobs,

you're working kind of paycheck to paycheck. Sure.

And in the years prior to becoming a professional psychic and

medium, the 16 years prior, I've been working in the travel

industry as an agent. And it wasn't an extremely well

paying industry, so I knew I had these

talents that I could utilize and I felt like I could help

people by utilizing my psychic

abilities. So after the mediumship came into play,

I thought it might be nice to make a

little extra money by working a part time job giving psychic readings.

So I found a platform to do that and I

was making some extra money working part time.

And then after 9:11 happened, shortly after 9:11 happened,

I very unceremoniously lost my job because

the travel industry basically tanked. No one was traveling. Everyone was

fearful about travel. Sure. We used to there was those times where the the with

the whole I mean, the airports were shut down for several days. Absolutely.

And travel agencies closed their doors or they they they

fired a lot of their staff because they just weren't getting the business. And I

was one of those casualties. So when that happened prior

to that, for a few months, I've been, as I said, doing some part

time psychic readings. And when I got fired from my travel

agency job because of the downturn in the travel industry,

I walked out of the building with my belongings in a box,

and I remember thinking to myself, well, I guess you're a full time psychic and

medium now. And, honestly, I didn't have any confidence that I

was going to be able to support my habits of living indoors and eating by

being a full time psychic medium. But, you know, I worked

hard and I was ambitious

and decided that I was gonna give this the best

go that I possibly could. And with

those things being said and some great opportunities that have come my

way, it's been pretty successful for me thus far. So how

did you set up, like, you know, when you're because, I

mean, I guess, is 2,001, 2,002, it's in the Internet

time, so you can put up a but, like, you could run a Google

ad or something. But how did people find out about you?

Did you have an ad in the yellow pages? Did you put it out there?

Did you just start saying among your friends, like, hey. I I'd like to help

you and and, let me see if I can. Like, how does that like, how

does it work? Like, how did you get business? The first thing that I

did was I worked on a psychic hotline.

And a lot of well known psychics have started like

that, working on a psychic hotline. And I built

that from doing phone readings

to working in a shop here in the

Atlanta area where I Mike, and I

started table at some events that were

around the country and going and doing readings for people at

these events. And my name started to get known and

my reputation started to get known kind of in the circuit,

and I started getting asked to go do events. And after

doing events for a while, one of the event coordinators was called

by Paranormal State. You mentioned that earlier. Yeah. And they were looking

for a new psychic to appear on their show.

And I got the phone call one day in January

in 2007 and was interviewed

by one of the producers then by the star of the show.

And later that night, after figuring, well, if it happens, it

happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Right. No harm. No foul.

The travel coordinator called me and said, I hear you're you're gonna be on our

next episode of of the show. And my response was,

well, heck, I'm a psychic and you know more than I do.

Right. So, you know, I this was on a

Wednesday. On a Friday, I flew out of Atlanta to

Philadelphia, drove a bit, and went and did an

episode of the show. And I'm kind of proud to say that

after that episode was filmed, the producer that I mentioned

talking to originally walked me

out to my car to drive back to the airport in Philadelphia with his arm

around my shoulder and said, Chip Coffey, you have just elevated the

show to an entirely new level.

So that was very gratifying to hear those words, and I thought, well, maybe this

is a one and done. But I wound up doing 30 something episodes of the

show, and it's just been it's been a very nice build

in my career. And do I have any idea where it's gonna go? No.

Because I don't read for myself very well. But, you know, so far

so good. And I'm coming to the Dells. Right. And right.

Well, the thing is that also, that kind of notoriety has

given you a chance to, you know, spread your message and let people, like,

get a sneak preview of, like, okay. This is, like, how it works. So maybe

I wanna go there in person and check it out. And I think

that's, so they can so instead of walking and be like, oh, because I'm gonna

see psychics for fun or, you know, I don't know. My wife, like, got me

for my birthday and everything, and I love going and going through the whole reading

and stuff. And, you never know what you're gonna get. But if you see someone

work on TV or whatever, then you're like, okay. Now I kinda know what I'm

gonna get, when I get in there, or I know how it's gonna go

for a different person. I never know what my reading I never know what my

readings are gonna look like. Never. I never had any

idea. Every reading there may be some common threads,

but every reading because the connection the energetic connection

I'm making with individuals is different. Everybody's somewhat different.

So some people have the misguided impression that this is

especially if you go to see a psychic, it's going to be sad

if you're talking to a dead relative or it's going to be

they might just have preconceived notions of whatever those happen to be. Sure. Because a

lot of people go in their grieving. Of course.

But most of the readings that I do

are very life affirming. They're very

emotional, but not, you know,

tragic or sad. I I I want to

Mike goal is to leave my clients

feeling good about the situation. I want to to

bring comfort and healing and clarity with

whatever I do. When we talk about the you know, every reading every person

is different, you say. Yeah. One thing I'm interested in

is how how these things or, I mean, how

the messages appear to you or how you perceive them. Because when you talk about

it being a kid, you're like, oh, here's a couple of things where I just

kinda blurted stuff out, where it seems like the message

came out of you before traveling through your frontal lobe or whatever

first. Yeah. You know? And so when

you receive something or maybe when you first had that when you were with your

coworker or whatever, and you're like, hey. Your deceased brother's

talking. How did the deceased brother show up? Was

it visual? Was it auditory? Was it I mean, how do you perceive

these messages, and how do you how do you get them as far as to

try to explain it to us, who who

maybe a third eye is a little cross eyed? Great

question. The dead will get messages to

me any way that they can, however they can.

It's not like us having a conversation right now. It's just it's

it's different, and I'll try to explain a little bit. K. Sometimes

the messages come to me as, like, a little flash, like a still

photography photo. Sometimes they'll come through Mike a little

video. Sometimes it's just a feeling. It can be

it can be a like a sound, although not necessarily hearing

the sound, or a taste, although not necessarily tasting the

taste. It's just however they can get that information through to

me. I'll give you an example of that. One day, I

was doing a reading for a lady and she wanted to

talk to her grandmother, I believe. This was years ago.

And grandma showed me everything to do

with the country of China. Tiananmen Square, she

showed me food. She showed me a fortune cookie. She

showed me whatever could could have anything to do with China.

And I said that to my client. Nope. Grandma didn't love China. She

didn't have anything really to do with China. And I'm Mike, okay. Let's

just put that on hold. Hold on to that information and see if it makes

sense to you later without having to stretch it too far to make it fit.

Just hold on to China. And then grandma showed me one

perfect red rose. And I

mentioned that to my client. Nope. Grandma wasn't a big rose fan. Grandma didn't.

Nobody put a rose on her coffin. Grandma loved wildflowers. She

didn't really like the fancy flowers like roses. So I'm

thinking, I don't know why she's showing me this. We're kinda

going off track here with this reading. And then the

lady said, well, hold on a minute. She said, when my

grandma died, I inherited her china and it's a

rose pattern. Could that be it? Well, of course,

that's it. Grandma could not show me

just a cup or a plate with a rose on it. I don't

know. But all grandma wanted me to say was china and

rose. And we had to kind of connect those

dots, which sometimes you have to do during a reading. You have to connect

dots without kind of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

But grandma evidently couldn't show me or didn't

show me a plate with a rose on She showed me everything china,

had everything rose, and my job was to say china and rose. And and so

that was somebody who was right in front of you? Well, I do all my

readings by phone, all my private readings by phone. Okay. So this was

a phone client. Okay. So that's I I would interest the difference there too in

in that. I because you say when you first started working, you worked in the

psychic hotline, whatever. And I remember, like, I did the,

I was, like, right out of college and working from home and

writing and things like that. I signed up for the psychic hotline, and they they

sent me, like, like, the training or whatever, and it was just, like,

tarot card readings and stuff. And I was thinking and I, you know,

only did it a short time, but I remember, like, looking at the tarot card,

like, just trying to explain that. And, like, I'm like, I'm not getting anything here,

so maybe I should maybe I should leave this line of work.

But and that's why I was wondering, is it different in person or on the

phone, like, when you get some kind of message? It's always nice to

be able to see my clients. Mhmm. But I I

don't find phone readings, for me at least, to be any

less valid or accurate than an in person

reading. They both just seem to work for me.

So it's it's the person. It's not the it's not Mike the the the proximity.

You know what I mean? Because I'm always you always think that because in real

life, you're Mike, well, I wanna look a guy in the eye, and that's the

only way I'm gonna know him. But it it doesn't seem like proximity has any

effect on your gift. No. It doesn't. I have clients that I've talked to

from the other side of the world, and that that proximity doesn't really

I haven't noticed any demonstrable difference between a live reading

and a telephone reading. Well, I guess if the person's gonna I mean, you

know, if the if the message is gonna come through or whatever,

from a different dimension or whatnot, then I guess even

a couple of 1,000 miles, doesn't seem that big of a this difference,

if they're already coming so far. We're half a globe away. It doesn't really make

a difference. It's all about energy, And there are certain energetic things that none of

us understand how it works. You know, I I use this example a

lot. I use this example of of psychic stuff on a very

rudimentary level. I would imagine that most of

us have just kind of, quote, unquote, randomly thought of

a friend or a loved one that we haven't seen in a while. And their

their their presence, so to

speak, comes into our heads. And shortly after that, they

either call or text or show up or hold. I would I would

imagine that most of us have had that happen. Well, I think that's probably some

sort of precognition that we're gonna run into

them or we've put that energy out and somehow

the universe decides that our paths are gonna cross. I don't know what that is,

but I know that happens to a lot of people.

And it's really is on a very basic level

what you said. It's it's tapping into that intuitive part

of ourselves, that little voice, and just listening to

it. And, you know, as you've developed this, have you found that it's been

easier to tap into it over time or you get better at

figuring out what the messages are, that are maybe

psychic messages or that and then the messages just that are just

are Mike, oh, I must be hungry or something like that? Like, is it is

it hard to differentiate between,

what we think of as terrestrial thoughts and the non, you know, terrestrial

thoughts? No. Because the thoughts that I'm getting inside my

head or the the images or messages or whatever

from spirit are very different. They just feel different,

like, they don't belong to me as opposed

to to my own personal thoughts. They feel they feel

foreign, so to speak. Okay. So it's not at all difficult for me

to differentiate between

psychic thoughts or messages and my own personal thoughts

in my head. Right. Because that that probably would would get me. Like, I'm

like, oh, am I just thinking this stuff? But I guess it's that it is

that feeling of, someone else talking in your

head that might be, you know, that might give you that kind

of, the borderline between this is what

I'm thinking and then this is whatever I'm receiving, whatever it might be. Well,

I'll tell I'll tell you another story that I think is is gratifying to

me. Again, when I first started doing this type of

work, I I would

censor sometimes because if I didn't understand the message, I

figured my client wasn't gonna understand it. So this lady called me

at one point in time, and she said her her

fear was that her deceased father

didn't know where the family had moved. They had since he had passed, they had

changed residences. And she said, I used to feel my dad around

me in my house all the time at our old house, and now I don't

feel him at all. And I

remember saying to her, well, I don't think it works that way. I think that

he probably knows where you're at, but let's just tap in and see

what we get. And the first thing that came into my mind

was waterfall. I don't remember if I heard the word or actually saw

an image, but waterfall was the first thing I

got. And I censored. I didn't say the

word. I went on and gave her other messages from her dad. And before

we hung up the phone, I said to the woman,

look. Right at the beginning of our reading, I got a a a

word, just one kind of word from your dad. And I don't know

if this means anything to you or whatever, but I'm gonna give it to you

and just hold on to it if it doesn't mean anything. She said, okay.

And I said the word that I got was waterfall, and she gasped and started

to cry. And I said, well, evidently that must

mean something to you immediately. What does that mean to you? She said,

now I know that my dad knows where we are

because at our new house, we have a waterfall in the backyard.

He answered the question immediately with something

that was very distinct, and that was the waterfall at the new house in the

backyard. So sometimes you're getting a message that you don't even

know why, and it's it has to be the up to the

person to get it. So it's not like you're designing the message for

them. You're just saying the words that show up. I'm

I'm kind of Mike well, that's what the word media means.

You're you're in between. You're in between. You're you're doing

my job is to deliver the message and that's all it is. It's through me

not for me in most instances. And

I deliver the message and then that's that's what

I I fulfill my obligation.

Sometimes the client and I will kind of talk through things about what

this could possibly mean, but sometimes the message

isn't immediately clear to my clients. And I

tell them, you know, don't toss to the side, think about

it, but don't try to fit a square peg in a round hole you

know, what it means. Don't stretch anything too far to make this

message meaningful. And talk to family members or friends. They may be

able to help you decipher something that's cryptic. And then

there's the third aspect of it. We could be talking about a future

event. And sometimes spirit is able to give us

glimpses of what the future looks like. So

there there are all those factors that come into play for a message not

immediately being able I don't 1.

Hold on. Did did you hear something right there?

I didn't. What did you hear? I it it's I heard somebody else's I

heard a woman's voice come in and say 1. So I just

kinda I was like, oh, what's that? Uh-oh.

They're with us, I guess. I don't know. They're with us or it's,

sometimes, you know how the, the connections can be. But it was just a funny

thing because you're Mike, you know, sometimes they say things random, and then all of

a sudden, I hear a woman's voice go 1.

But when you talk about mean anything does that mean anything to you, 1? It

doesn't mean anything to me today, but that doesn't mean I still got a long

day to go. You know, when you talk about glimpses of the future

there, what what I think

is interesting is have you had any glimpses

for yourself of things that would happen or any

troubles in your life that your psychic ability

or, you know, your gifts have at least given you a chance to better

navigate through it or you knew you'd turn out okay on the other

side? Has there been any challenges that you faced that,

you don't think you could have gotten through without your gifts? No. And I'll tell

you why. Most psychics I, like most psychics, I'm not able to

read effectively for myself. And quite honestly, I

don't know that I want to because I

kinda like having life be an adventure and everything kind of

being new and not having not

having that realization. Not everybody's like me. Thank goodness or I'd be out of a

job. But but, you know, I'm kind of

good with letting life sort of play its way out. And for me, it's kind

of a and I hope this doesn't sound too polyamory,

Anna, but it's kind of a fake thing that everything's gonna work out the way

it's supposed to. You know, I don't always

and spiritual path

is that I don't

I don't always get what I ask for or pray

for, because I'm not looking always

or maybe never at the the the greater

picture, the the the bigger picture. I don't always see the

grand scheme of things. So I suppose from a

divine standpoint, if it's not right all the way around, I'm not gonna get my

my wish. But, nonetheless, I I have

faith that whatever is supposed to happen in my life is gonna

happen. And I'm that type of person that just says whatever

befalls me, I'm gonna, in one way or another, find a way to deal

with. And I I feel for me that works and that's a

pretty good pretty good perspective on life. Sure.

And that's I mean, that's a positive message that can work for anybody. But

Sure. Absolutely. You know, you mentioned faith there. And did you grow up in a

religious household? I was raised in a Catholic family,

and I still call myself

a Catholic, a Roman Catholic, and a Christian. Although I've

grown up some

where where where my faith is involved, I

I've sort of integrated some of my spiritual beliefs into the end of

the Catholicism. And although I don't

I'm not a big fan of the Catholic church, but I still

embrace the faith. I don't really particularly like organized religion at

all. If others do, that's fine. If that works for them, it just doesn't

really work for chip coffee because of a variety

of reasons. But as far as faith and belief goes

and I don't wanna get too preachy here, but I want people to understand who

I am. God is everything to Mike, and that's what I call my

higher power. I feel like I am working in tandem with God and doing

something Holy Spirit. With the gift that he gave

me. And if I didn't, that feels kind of akin to

spitting in the eye of God. Yeah. And so I don't ever wanna do that.

As a matter of fact, right on the face of my website, on the home

page of my website, it said, I want my life to make God

smile. So that's the way I try to lead my life

with with a lot of

gratitude and a lot of trying to

give to others and be of service to

others and and just to lead a lead a good conscious life.

I have a friend. Do you ever watch television? I'll I'm gonna I'm gonna shamelessly

name drop here. Do you ever have you ever seen a show on television called

NCIS? Yes. Have a good

friend who was on that show for many years, and her name is Pauley

Perrette, and she played Abby, the lab tech on NCIS.

Okay. And we've had some very deep conversations

about religion and about spirituality and about faith.

And we were having a very lovely discussion

once and she said, let's just cut to the chase

here, Chip Cuffy. She said, this is how I pray.

And her simple prayer, my friend, was this.

She said, thank you for everything

and please forgive me for everything.

And those words not only

not only touched my heart, they touched my soul because there was

such simplicity and such power in

those words. And and

with attribution to Polly and unashamedly, I

I stole, in the best possible

sense of the word, those words and that

simple prayer from her and integrated it into my

daily prayers. It's the way all my prayers start and

I've asked that that be a constant

constant endless loop tape that's playing inside

my head. Thank you for everything, and please forgive me for everything. Well, that's a

very that's a very, that's a very Catholic prayer. All you need is a

Virgin Mary there because I mean, the idea of not

only, you know, gratitude and acceptance, but also the idea

of reconciliation. It is 100%.

And Pauli being Pauli being Protestant and not Catholic, I mean,

it's it should be just our human

prayer Right. Default. Without religion even being involved in it. Sir.

Whatever whatever you believe in, just you

know, here's the deal. I'm I'm gonna tell you what

I think every religious book should say. Every religious book should

really be 1 page long. Okay? And you know what that 1

page should say? Let's see it. And you can edit this out if it doesn't

fit into your broadcast, but that 1 page should say,

don't be a dick. Right. That's you don't

need too much more than that, do you? Just don't be a dick.

You know, just be a decent human being. And you wanna hear something that

spirit told me a while back? You wanna hear this story? Oh, yeah. A while

back during a moment of quiet reflection, and I say that because I cannot

classically slow my mind down to meditate. So

I call it just kind of sitting and being. So in one of those moments

a while back, I asked my spirit partners, what is the

meaning of life? And they laughed at Mike. And it pissed me off

because I thought it was a valid question. And they said, Chip, the meaning of

life is very simple. Just get through it the best way you can.

And I thought that was such a glib and pat answer. And I said, you're

gonna have to give me more. And they said, you who are in the human

form tend to complicate everything. You make things so complicated,

but let us really simplify this for you.

The universe, God, spirit, whatever you wanna call

the all that is, asks only 2 things of

you. 2 things. And here

they are. Do no intentional harm to yourself or to others

and get happy. And my mind

immediately thought, well, that's just really too simple. And they thought, just think about

it. Just think about it. And I did. I pondered on

it. And in its simplicity, it became pretty

enormous if you think about it. Do no intentional harm to

yourself or others and get happy, and do those things in tandem. And

that really covers a lot of ground. So that's kind of become my

mantra of how to lead my life. Don't hurt anybody intentionally or hurt myself

intentionally and just find out what it is that makes me happy and go about

doing it. Now that doesn't mean that

harming somebody else if that makes me happy or other any other being

Right. You can't just be Mike, it really it really make me happy to stab

this guy. It really makes me happy to, you know, do something to

commit a terrorist act, you know. No. You can't do that because you've got to

do those things in tandem. Do no harm to yourself or to others intentionally

and get happy. So if you do those things in tandem, that covers a heck

of a lot of ground. Well, I mean, when you talk about harm to yourself,

I mean, you harm yourself when you hold negative energy or when you

hate other people or when you do self destructive when you, you

know, go against what you know is good for you. Absolutely. Absolutely.

And if you do things that you know are going

to negatively impact one other

person or a group, if you do it with malintent,

then I believe that's a sin. I believe that's what really is a sin. If

you if you go about intentionally trying to harm someone,

that's that's my classic definition of a sin. And

unfortunately, there's a lot of that that goes around in the world and and that

that, I think, is what makes God give us the side eye. Sure. That's a

good way to put it. That's a good way to put it. You know, one

thing I I I was thinking about and I know you came up with this

the memoir, Growing Up Psychic, my story of not just

surviving, but thriving and how others like me can too. And you guys can find

that. We have links to Chip's books, and tickets to the show and stuff like

that are gonna be at othersidepodcast.com/286

is where you can can find those things if you're not at your computer right

now. But, you know, Wendy were going over your memoirs

and when you were writing that, did you come up with a time where, like,

maybe you'd received a message that you didn't

wanna get? Or you know, because we talk about a lot of life affirming

stuff and, a lot of positive things. But it

seems to me that foreknowledge of the

future or knowing sometimes what people think are can be

as much of a curse as a gift. And do you have any particular times

you remember or maybe when you were thinking about for the book to add some

drama or whatever where you're like, oh, I I I really wish I

could unlearn this. Well, let me talk about my book for a second. It's part

autobiography and part kind of how to for anyone who's raising a

psychic kid. And it's also been very cathartic for those who

were raised a psychic kid and misunderstood to read. So I

I often suggest that as a good jumping off point for folks. And,

you know, it's not an expensive book. It's paperback. It's about $15, I think.

So, you know, I I I urge people to read it if they've got questions

about their their own abilities or questions

about someone in their family that has abilities. And as far as delivering a

message that's not always, quote unquote, good,

yes. There have been times when I've got to deliver a message that is

tough, you know, that someone's not doing well, that something's

gonna happen that's not necessarily a positive thing. And

because I was trained in psychology

and traditional counseling and those sort of things,

I know that my words can either help or hurt or

can harm or heal. So I try

to choose those words carefully and deliver that

message as compassionately and gently as I possibly can.

But my job is to deliver a message, so I I

won't censor. I will definitely choose my words cautiously,

but I don't I don't censor. Well, has anything

ever been I mean, to you, it's like a message for you

specifically that, you know, not maybe in a

reading, but just something that you kinda got that you're like, oh,

I wish I didn't know that. Like, anything that that that, like, happened to you.

I just and maybe not something for someone, but a message meant for

you. No. I've never had that happen. I mean, I don't

I don't I I I think I'm following your question. No. Nothing

personal Mike I said. Sure. I sometimes have great difficulty with reading for

Mike, and I'm not one of the psychics who has the ability

to actually readily predict

world events. Like, I couldn't say, oh, you know,

I I thought the tsunami was going to happen or I thought

this was going to happen or that was going to happen. Although, at one point

in time, I was visiting a friend in California and

she had to come into the room I was sleeping in. I was staying at

her house and she had a an infant and I was sleeping in

the kids' room. And she had moved all the kids into her room

and put them in various beds, whatever. And so she came in after I

had already gone in to go to sleep to get the baby's blanket because he

was fussy wanting his his whoopie. And

so I, evidently, when she came in, she saw me stir and she

said I'm so sorry to wake you up. And evidently, I sat up in bed

and said something bad's about to happen. The angels are gathering. Oh Mike

gosh. And I laid back down. And Oh, man. That would freak

me out. I'd be like Yeah. Wake your ass up, and we're gonna talk about

this. Yeah. Let's talk. Let's talk. So

we we talked about it the next morning, and I'm like, I

have no conscious memory of this. Well, that

day or the next day, I don't remember which, I mentioned

the tsunami and that is actually when the tsunami in wherever it

was happened. Oh, wow. Okay. And and I mean, that's that's a lot

heavier than I even expected. I was thinking more just like little things like

you're out at a dinner party or whatever and you meet a couple and you're

like, oh, she's cheating on him. Yeah. Little little things

like that. Oh, I know stuff like that all the time.

Alright. That's I mean I know stuff like that all the

time. And do I always share that information? No. And one

thing it's funny. I was talking about this on social media earlier today. I will

never do ambush readings. Do you know what those are? We come up to somebody

and say there's like, somebody's got a message for you or something?

1000%. You don't just walk up to

somebody, at least I think it's wrong. It's called trespassing, psychic

trespassing. You don't just walk up to somebody in a restaurant or a bar or

something or a mall and say, oh, I got something I've gotta tell

you. You know? No. No. No. No. Hell no. Because that

is that's an ambush reading. If I've got

something that I'm supposed to share with somebody, I

will always ask permission before I share. And when my clients book an

appointment with me, they've given me implied permission to read

for them. So that's different. Or if they attend to one of my events, they've

given me implied permission to to read for them. And even in my

events, if you're coming to my event there in the Dells, you'll

see that I ask people in the audience to raise their hands

before I do a reading for them. So I don't

I can't say I've never picked on somebody in the audience who hasn't got their

hand raised. But I always ask, do you wanna hear what I'm supposed to tell

you? And if they say no, then fine and dandy. I

won't give that message. But the vast majority of people who may be

a little shy or reluctant to raise their hand at one of my live

events, I I will I will ask

permission if I get something that's directed toward them. Well and I think

this is a good place, to actually ask, if people have

not attended one of your events or attended an event like this. Like,

how is it set up and and what happens? Wendy, you know, you take a

place Mike you're in a theater or, Mike you know when you're in Michigan you're

at the big theater at the casino at in the Dallas you'll be at the

Palace Theatre Mike what's the set up like you're not gonna come up there with

a top hat and a cane and sing putting on the Ritz for us like

what what so what happens Well, I might. Alright. I would actually

that would be pretty sweet. If time permits, we may do a little just for

you Sweet. We may do a little put on the Ritz. I yeah. You're right.

Young Frankenstein style. We'll go a little Young Frankenstein on you here. Yeah.

No. What happens generally at my events, which I call gallery

readings, and this is the plan for the Palace Theatre at the

Wisconsin Dells on no November. It's not November.

It's March 17th. It's Saint Patrick's Day. That's right. So that was

that was a lovely, shameless plug.

The way it's structured is I will come out and do a little

q and a. People can ask me about the shows that I've been on, ask

Mike questions about their own personal stuff. We'll we'll see

how that goes. You know, if it goes for a while when people are asking

questions, you know, that'll work well. If not, you know,

we'll probably take a break after a short amount of

Mike, and then I will come back on, explain how the readings

are gonna go and what they're gonna look Mike, and then open that up to

people raising their hands if they want me to come to them.

And whoever spirit leads me to, then I will

go to that individual person. Unlike other people who you

may have watched them on television or gone to one of their events, I

typically don't just randomly pick someone out of the audience

and do open channeling. I don't do open channeling. Open channeling

is where any spirit that wants to can come through. That to me is

like walking into a crowded room and everyone trying to get my attention at once.

So instead, I do what's called direct connection, and I let my

clients tell me who it is in their heart of hearts they want me to

try to reach out to, what individual soul they I do

that for them. Or we'll do psychic readings. They can ask me questions

about relationships or romance or career or finances or any of

those things that are kind of Mike past, present, future in their lives. So I'm

gonna do 2 different kinds of readings. And I wanna stress

to people that it's not weird or spooky

or creepy. It's it's actually the

opposite of that. It's as I said before, it can be kind of life affirming.

And, you know, sometimes, yes, there are tears shed. Sometimes we laugh

because I have a tendency to be kind of off the wall and

funny. So it's it's

kind of like a Mike bag of a lot of stuff. Sure. And well, Mike

because that's what I was kinda wondering. I was wondering, like, when you you when

you're there, you're, you know, in front of a couple hundred people or a few

hundred pea I mean, it can be up to, like, a big crowd. And I

was just wondering, like, if it's all, like, you just you open your eyes and

you're Mike, holy crap. They're here. And, like, they're

all coming to you at once because everybody wants to talk to their kid or

their grandkid or something like that. Hey. You know, it's I feel my

spirit partners will lead me to that person or persons who are

supposed to have a reading at that time and place. So

that's the way I choose. And, you know, there'll there'll be people running microphones

to the audience. They'll pass the mic to the person and we'll get down to

business. They'll tell me what they want me to do and I

will try to try to do what they want me to do.

So you have this herd of people that are lining up. I don't

want my abilities. I've sort of fine tuned my abilities,

so to speak, so as not to work in that fashion. Okay. I no one

wants to be overwhelmed. You don't wanna feel like, oh my god. I've got a

duck and cover. You don't wanna I don't wanna feel that way. It's more it's

more of a controlled sort of a thing for me. And, what

you know, one last question. In you know, it talks about your book. One of

the things it says in the book is, like, hey. Chip Coffee helps to show

you how to deal with skeptics and disbelievers. And I'm sure, you

know, you probably get that constantly, because people are

like, oh, you're psychic. Yeah. Right. Or I saw James the amazing Randy

do the exact same thing that you can do. Mhmm. Like, how do

you you know, when somebody comes up and you're like, well, I'm here to

help or anything like that, how do you deal with that?

I actually don't give a rosy red rat's ass.

I don't care. You believe what you wanna believe. Just don't come for

me and try to be confrontational

because you don't believe, because you're a skeptic. And and and sadly,

the word skeptic in a lot of ways, a lot of skeptics that I've come

into contact with, have indeed been rapid rapid

disbelievers. And the way that they approach it is

to try to take a healthy dump on the beliefs of

other people. So that's really no

different than being a member of the Westboro Baptist Church.

You're trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe as you believe is wrong

or bad. So I've been confronted by those

people and the way that I found the

best deal with them is just not to deal with them.

You know, I'm not gonna I'm not going to allow them to run rough shot

over me because I'm gonna fire back in certain instances. But

I'll give you an example. I had a group come to one of

my events in California with the

sole intention of discrediting me.

And they had actually built

Facebook pages, I found out, with talking

about their dead loved ones. Fake Facebook pages. Talking about their dead loved ones

with the hope that I would research it or my team would research.

Sure. Like like Steve Martin and Leap of Faith Wendy they're feeding them stuff through

the earpiece and stuff. Well, I invite anybody to come up on stage with

me and see if I've got an earpiece in because I don't. But the deal

is they went to that trouble. They funded themselves and

bought tickets to come to my event. But before they came,

they came with prefabricated stories

about fictitious dead relatives and

even brought pictures and whatever. And they dressed in

garish clothing and they sat pretty close to the front.

And here's the rub.

This had happened before and I knew of this group

and so did my team because one of their people

tried to use a fake ticket and come

to my event a few weeks earlier. And he had to be

thrown out of the event. And we fully recognized who he

was. So we did some research online. This time we did do

research and found out who a lot of them were. They're they Mike to brag.

So there's tons of photographs of them online. I mean, they

just love to be high profile and pretty much they've taken

over any spiritual or paranormal websites on Wikipedia

including mine and have just their

sole goal is to to destroy

anything that doesn't fit into their own little Paradigm. Not a

belief system. Most of them yeah. Most of them are are atheists or a lot

of them are atheists. So I recognize these

people. I've seen their photographs. I knew who they were. So

I thought, I'll give them what they want. I'll

they're here to yank my you know what and I'm just gonna yank back.

So I gave them readings and here's the rub.

They came to me with lies and they had created

listen to what they created. One of them was a woman who

created the fact that the person she wanted to reach out to was

her young, Mike, toddler sized child

who supposedly had run into the street and been killed by a

car. That's pretty sick. You wanna

hear what's even sicker? One of the other women in this group,

her fictitious dead relative

was her sister who died at the trade center on

911. That's that's pretty reprehensible

to come with that sort of lie. A dead child hit

by a car and someone who died

on 911. I gave them what they wanted

and then they bragged about how they had stung

me. They had hoodwinked me. No. They didn't.

And here's the thing, what I always tell my clients because we I don't understand.

I said it right at the beginning of this interview. I don't understand how energy

or messages work. But if you create the scenario of

lies, I could be picking up on your lies. Right. That's

why I it read a book called The Philip Experiment. It

was done and they actually created

a spirit named Philip, gave him all his attributes.

They they they created a person, a dead person

who never lived. It was all in their imagination and in their

creation. And here's what happened.

Philip started to communicate with them. Right. Right.

And and I think that's the I mean, that's a powerful lesson because that the

whole time I was thinking was, like, whether or not you gave them the fake

information or gave them the real information, the fact that you could give them

information that you didn't have before you got there,

like, I I to me, that's enough. I'm like, alright. Well,

if he didn't you know? It's that kind of thing. And the

Philip experiment really shows what kind of realities we can create

if we focus hard enough. Right. And they had focused very hard. They had

focused very hard on creating these

fictitious dead relatives. I mean, they they put a lot

of power into this, so to speak. You know, I

can see the I can see the attraction to it. But to me, it's Mike

if you're gonna put that much focus into something, why don't you try to focus

on the, you know, the people that actually meant something to you? Why don't you

actually focus on doing something that's meaningful and worthwhile rather than taking a

crap on the belief system of other people and trying to destroy others? Remember what

spirit said, do no intentional harm to yourself or others. Right. And they were

intentionally coming there trying to do me harm Wendy I've done nothing to

them. You know, I've been called a grief vampire or anything. You know what? I'm

not an ambulance chasing psychic. If someone wants to avail themselves of my

services, pick up the phone and call me. I don't have an email list. We

don't send emails to my clients. We don't call them at whatever.

Sometimes I'll run a special on social media or I'll advertise my services there.

But you know what? Other people do that too. I'm not trying to

foster a dependence on me or my skills with any of my

clients. Not gonna happen. And as a matter of fact, I have a

rule. You know, I'm not gonna be 1 800 dial the dead. I'm not

gonna be that. I have a rule that with each individual client, like, if you

call me and ask me to talk to grandma and you call me again and

want to talk to grandma, I talk to her twice for you. After that, we

ain't doing it. We ain't doing it.

Well, I mean, those are some great stories. And, Chip, I

think everybody's looking for you to come to the Dells in just a couple of

weeks. Let me just add one thing. You know, I've been there before. I was

there for actually a filming of psychic kids. I didn't get to

enjoy what the devil's had to offer. So this Mike, I'm gonna try to immerse

myself in the experience of being back in that lovely place. So I'm really

the only thing I'm not looking forward to is it's gonna be cold, I think.

Yeah. It's it's March 17th. It's not gonna be negative. So you escape

that, but it's not gonna be warm. I'm gonna dress

warmly, I think. I'm gonna pack some really warm clothes because

I'm anticipating being cold. Well, the thing is, the one

good thing about Chip that we always know you recognize him at a convention because

he's the only other guy than me who's wearing a scarf. Hallelujah to

that. I'll bring you a scarf. I'll bring you a

scarf. Alright. Unfortunately, I'm gonna be in Texas when you're

here, but, we're gonna have people from the, Madison and Wisconsin Dells ghost tours,

coming up to visit and checking out. And if you guys out there, you can

save 15% on your ticket if you type in ghost

15, ghost 15, and the link is gonna be right there on

othersidepodcast.com/286 so you can pick up, and you can

enjoy Saint Patrick's Day, with this remarkable

character, and you're gonna have a lot of fun, at the, Chip

Coffee event in the Dell. So, Chip, thank you so much for your time today.

We absolutely appreciate it, and good luck to you. You know? I appreciate that

so much. It's been lovely to be here with you. I think your message is

positive, and, I I hope you just keep it up. Thank you,

sir. One of the most memorable

things Chip Coffey said during our conversation was when he mentioned

that he asked his spirit guides or angels or whoever's

talking to him about the meaning of Mike. What is the purpose

of existence? And they answered with a simple and direct

message. Don't be a dick. Well,

that's good advice whether you're looking for the meaning of it all

or just a good reminder next time you wanna yell at

somebody or be mean or just in general when you're having a conversation.

So we took that as inspiration for this week's song. Here's Sunspot

with don't be a dick.

I was as low as you can go, like a flat tire in

the heat.

Mike.

You know I love you. But I don't know that much. I

tried to put you on the right path, being good

and such. But I know it doesn't mean a lot to

hear the same cliche. If you remember just

one thing. Remember when I say, when

I say don't be a dick, you ain't got

much time. And every moment you spend mad

is one last moment of your life. Don't be a dick.

Let me be clear. Righteous anger has a

way of taking time off your good years.

When my worries and my troubles were more than I could

leave your life destroyed. I made a lot of rules, but

there's just one that counts my full envy.

Don't be a dick. You ain't got much time,

and every moment you spend mad is one last moment of

your life. Don't be a dick. Let me

be clear. Rogers Sanger has a way

of taking Mike time off your good years. Don't be a dick.

You ain't got much time. Every moment

you've been mad is one less moment of your life. Don't

be a dick. Let

Thank you for listening to today's episode. You can find us

online at othersidepodcast.com. Until next

Mike. See you on the other side. Hello. It's

Wendy. Thank you so much to Mike and Chip Coffey

for that great discussion today. It was really fun to hear because

we've been seeing Chip at all these different paranormal conferences over the

years, as well as, of course, on television. And it was just really, I

thought it was fun to hear some more about the story of his life

and the unique experiences that he's had as a psychic medium.

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