Toni Nagy was a finalist for the Sundance Screen Writers lab and is a freelance writer for Salon, AlterNet, Huffington Post, Hairpin, Thought Catalogue and more. Nagy has her own successful blog www.tonibologna.com with over 50,000 views per month on her Facebook Fan page.

Nagy is also a stand up comic, and filmmaker. She has written/ edited/directed/ and acted in over 40 sketch comedy videos that together have upwards of 1,000,000 views. Nagy has her BA in philosophy has been a political activist since she graduated from Sarah Lawrence College.

Nagy was the winner of the New Talent Show Case at the Broadway Comedy Club in NYC. She also has performed at the Gotham Comedy Club in NYC. She produced her own Comedy Special “Stand up for Stuffies.

Nagy started her own production company www.cavelightproductions.com

Toni is wicked active on TikTok & Instagram, showcasing her special brand of humor for all.

Takeaways:

1. In this podcast episode, Tony Nagy shares her unique comedic approach, intertwining physical humor with profound insights about societal issues, thus challenging traditional notions of comedy.
2. Tony discusses the evolution of her comedic journey, emphasizing how questioning societal norms led her to embrace absurdity as a coping mechanism for life's challenges.
3. The conversation highlights the importance of engaging with topics that may be uncomfortable; Tony advocates for humor as a tool to facilitate dialogue around serious subjects.
4. The episode explores the intersection of comedy and social commentary, demonstrating how humor can effectively engage audiences with complex issues such as climate change and political corruption.
5. Tony emphasizes the significance of authenticity in performance, arguing that true comedic expression often arises from embracing one's own vulnerabilities and awkwardness.
6. The dialogue touches upon the evolving nature of societal values, particularly around issues like diet and environmentalism, illustrating how personal choices can reflect broader cultural shifts.

Links referenced in this episode:

1. blindknowledge.com
2. instagram.com/TonyNagy
3. tiktok.com/@TonyNagy

Companies mentioned in this episode:

1. Blind Knowledge
2. BlindKnowledge.com
3. Instagram
4. Tick Tock
5. YouTube
6. Twitch
7. Tony Nagy
8. Cypress Hill
9. Chia
10. Wu Tang
11. Tool
12. Poshmark

Yeah, we're live. We're live. Once again. This is Joey B. I'm over here at blind knowledge. BlindKnowledge.com is the spot that's hot.

And we are gonna be live so, so soon. Don't Forget it. It's blindknowledge.com. you can check us out over on Instagram. We are the Blind Knowledge.

We're on Tick Tock at the Blind Knowledge and we're all over the place on YouTube, Twitch. We feature podcasts, we feature live streamers, we feature digital content creators, we feature musicians. And today we feature, actually a comedian.

A comedian by the name of Tony Nagy. You gotta check her out. She's over on Tick Tock, taking the Tick Tock world by storm. She's so funny. She's over on Instagram as well.

So you can check her out on Tick Tock. Check out Instagram right now. You can check her out here on Blind Knowledge. Check her out. Here we go. Hey, Tony, Tony, Tony.

Tony has done it again.

Hey, let's get down. Let's get down. I was looking for that music, but I couldn't find.

Would have been a great reference.

Ah. You know, and a great lawsuit to be. To be sued by that. That group and that licensor.

Probably a. I'm guessing a music label that has that one, but that's okay. Well, maybe we'll work it in later. So Tony, let's get. Damn. Tony. Tony. Tony the comedian. Hey, so thank you so much for joining me.

I appreciate your time. How you doing today?

I'm doing pretty well, thank you. How are you?

Yo. I'm all right. I'm all right now. I'm pumped now because it's been months since we've been talking.

It's been months since I found your Tick Tock and I laughed and I actually get it got me out of bed. I was like, holy, she's funny. I gotta. I gotta ask her for an interview. But first I need to have a network and a show.

So I got the network and the show going and now we have the interview. So that's. That's pretty cool.

I feel honored to be part of that impulse and impetus.

Yeah, you got me going. You were the spark. You were the spark for me for sure. You and some others as well. We got to get right into it, though.

You are a hilarious comedian using physical comedy, but also this informative approach. Where did you start? Like, where did your comedic journey start? Were you young? Was it recent? Give us some. Give us some overlay on that.

So I was a philosophy person in college. I think that really kind of shaped a worldview where you have to question everything.

And when you start questioning all things, at least for me personally, it led me into a bit of, like, a nihilistic, depressive path, because I was like, oh, my fucking God, what is reality? And so I think as a way of coping and dealing with the harsh suffering of existence, I just started to lean into the absurd of it.

And I think for me personally, when I can see the absurdity and laugh about it a little bit, or at least acknowledge it, then I'm able to talk about things that are maybe, like, painful in the heart or painful in the brain, but not take it so seriously where it puts me in an oppressive and depressive state.

That's interesting.

But I. I started off with sketch comedy.

Wow.

That was my, like, first kind of jam, you know, beginning with YouTube and then Facebook. You know, Facebook was more of a thing.

Oh, yeah. When it was awesome.

Number one, Facebook mattered.

Yes.

They keep telling us it matters, but I'm like, does it, though?

Not anymore. No, no, it did. When. When I had an edu. A do email and I was still in college, and it was the Facebook. Yeah, it mattered then.

But then when my mom and dad got on there and my grandma and

then, you know, like, about it.

No.

So I did. I mean, I think the thing about sketch comedy that is fun and exciting is you get to hide behind character.

And there was something really freeing for that about that, about being. Creating these characters. And I also. I love sketch comedy, and I think it is a really interesting platform for cultural commentary.

And it took me a while to get on board with just talking directly to a camera in a more solo stage, you know, Instagram, TikTok kind of way, and not be with, like, another human being that I was engaging with. And to purely just engage to a camera and have that feel authentic and not like a crazy person, like, by yourself talking.

Yeah, yeah, that's.

To a phone. And that took me a minute to make that transition.

Yeah, that must be tough. Did you put, like, a name? Did you name the phone or maybe a label with a smiley face or something on there?

Well, I think what I started doing is I started doing it high. Yeah. I would get stoned. And so then there was a. You know, I was almost. I was like, okay.

And I had this connection to Cypress Hill, and I was like, oh, if I make weed videos, then Cypress Hill would promote my video. So it was kind of. There was this integration that was Going because I was just, you know, looking to get out there more.

And so I do think smoking weed was the beginning of me finding an authentic relationship to the back of my phone.

Hey, whatever works for you, Tony. I mean, Cypress Hill is one of the best ever. I'm actually, I'm rep. I'm representing the 420 as well over here as always.

Yeah, it definitely lightens me up a little bit. It kind of mellows me out. And you know, I'm definitely a proponent of it. I think it should be legal everywhere.

I've seen you've mentioned edibles in some of your shorts or Tick Tock videos, so. Oh, yeah, you must be a proponent of it where you're living now. Is it, is it a positive thing? Is it shunned upon?

Because it varies from state to state. Everyone I talk to, it's a different deal.

Yeah, I mean, New Hampshire is so I'm in New Hampshire, so Vermont, Massachusetts, Maine. Like we're kind of surrounded by more legalized states.

Yeah, sure. Live free or die.

Yeah, it's decriminalized here, but it's not legal. It's not like we have dispensaries here that we can go to.

Okay, okay. Not yet.

So.

But from like a cultural perspective, I do think New England both has a very puritan and alcohol based identity and it's opening up to weed in a specific way. But I don't. It's not exactly normalized. And it's funny, it's something that I don't, you know, I go in and out of doing.

But I'm a very like public advocate of even whether or not I'm smoking at that time or not. I don't really. It doesn't really matter to me whether or not I want to be like an advocate because I do think it's an important topic.

Yeah.

But I always laugh, like going to my kids school, you know, she goes to like this like kind of like uptight school. And then I like put all these videos out about like weed and this and that. Like, I'm always like, these parents are not fans of mine, I don't think.

But that's okay.

Not yet. Not yet. Maybe they just haven't been enlightened. I mean, that's what blind knowledge is all about.

It's about illuminating that information that's out there that we just kind of don't know about yet or hasn't registered yet, or maybe it hasn't been given to us. And truthfully, maybe we only know parts of it. So I think, you know, legalization of marijuana, you know, there's, there's so many pluses to it.

You know, the, the tax money that could come in and help out these communities and the educational system itself.

And there's just, there's not a lot of negative to it in my eyes at least, but I can, I can understand how maybe an uptight community could see it that way. You know, we, we were discussing in the, before we came on the air here, you know, I'm from Massachusetts, you're from Massachusetts.

There definitely is that puritan vibe up. It's kind of progressive. It's getting there a little bit. They did, they did legalize it over in Massachusetts, so hopefully it comes your way.

Yeah, Mass and Boston, it is legal. You can go to the dispensaries.

I mean, I think it's interesting, the whole puritan identity that is in the underbelly of New England, because it's there, you know, and there's also a lot of. There's almost like a glory to suffering. You know, we're like, oh, we got the winner, yo. You know, like we.

There's something very like sarcastic and harsh about New England people and work hard, you know, I gotta work real hard. So I do think there is something counter intuitive about bringing weed, which is a little bit more of like a groovy Northern California vibe.

You know, it's like in the east coast, we wake up with the sun and like the west coast, like, they wake up later, they, you know, they're just a different vibe.

So I think that it's interesting to try to integrate what we think as like the New England values with a more laid back weed vibe, you know, Vibration.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's great. It's actually great because anyone that knows around that area, especially like the Boston area, it's. It's go, go, go.

It's hustle and bustle. It's. It's a big, it's a big bubble that you live in and it's just 100 all the time. You got to be on, you got to be ready, you got to be good.

And if you're not, you're out. And that's just, it's nice to have a little bit of mellow. Maybe just take a breath, you know, exhale the beauty a little bit.

Yeah.

I always think like, because we wake up with the stock market, you know, and I just think entanglement of the stock market wakes up, east coast wakes up, you know, the west coast wakes up three hours later.

I mean, I guess if you're like a day trader, you're waking up pretty early on the west coast, but the normal person is just, they're not waking up with the capitalist vibe, you know, they're just kind of waking up. But I do think that waking up and being in the same time zone as NASDAQ and as the stock market, I think it has a psychological impact. I really do.

Absolutely. Especially Monday through Friday. Absolutely. I can't agree more. Are you a big trader or are we going to go on?

No, I don't have the emotional constitution for it because it's gambling, you know,

I, I, it is legal gambling.

Yeah, it's legal gambling. I did go hard on crypto, like when there was that big crypto dip. I was like, I'm buying it. I, I bought the, into some crypto.

I tried to look at the more ecological ones like Chia, which was incredibly hard to locate and buy.

I'm still a little slow on it, you know, But I think the interesting thing about crypto is, like, okay, there is this criticism of it as the environmental catastrophe of it, which I'm not denying. But I have a couple questions. What is the environmental catastrophe of just regular fucking money? It's unimaginable.

And also, if we shifted our power and how we powered all of these mega servers to be powered on sustainable energy, like we obviously could. The sustainable energy outlets are there. We just need to plug into them.

Then it's like crypto is such a better potential solution to our economic tomfoolery that's happening. So I'm, you know, I'm, I'm going up and down on how I feel about, like, what to do about money in the future and crypto and finances.

Yeah, no, I hear you. I think it's a little bit of both, too. I think you gotta, you, well, you gotta. What do they say? You got, you got to put a little bit into everything.

You got to diversify. Diversify, yes, you gotta diversify. You know, I have a little bit in crypto, a little bit and in some stocks, but both of them are crapshoots.

You never know. I mean, bitcoin could crap out. I don't know. I don't think it will at this point. But besides, you know, bitcoin and ether and Cardano is another one.

You know, you don't really know what these things are going to do. And then half of them, you know, it's like, what do they do? What kind of value, intrinsic value, do they have tangible value?

Like, what can you do with a Sheba coin.

Ah, yeah. You can own it in a computer. Like an nft, you know?

Exactly. It's like. What is an nft? Well, it's a. It's a jpeg, isn't it?

Yeah.

Concept. Yeah. It's basically a Twitter logo at this point. But people are all for it. They're like gung ho.

They think, okay, the NFTs are going to be the next big thing. Well, let's. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I don't know. It's. It's another crapshoot, in my opinion.

I know I did go into a Gronkowski NFT hole because I was like, well, sports NFTs, maybe that's. Yeah, like, maybe that's where. Where the value will always be maintained in the sports world. Yeah.

I don't know about the art world, but something about sports where there's, you know, there's like the fantasy football, there is a whole, like virtual sports existence. And then the cards, you know, you used to have sports cards. Oh, yeah.

Trading cards.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There is something. I do think from a sports perspective that NFTs might be able to maintain value regardless of the rest of the market. I.

The art thing is cool. And then there's also, like, music NFTs, but.

Oh, that's true, that's true. Bands nowadays are starting to launch and drop demos as NFTs, which, as a musician myself, I think that's. That's really cool.

I think it's a good avenue to explore, especially nowadays with the way labels are and the, the industry yourself and, and just how hard it is not even just to make money, but to get found, get hurt and even just play a gig these days, it's like you gotta find those new avenues and NFTs, you know, that. That could be the way to go for music.

Yeah, well, Wu Tang was the original. Remember when Wu Tang just like, made one album?

They did, yes.

And then they sold just. What? I mean, they were like, way ahead of their time.

True.

I. I feel like the guy who bought it was the guy. He is in jail.

Like, he was the big pharma, he

was the oxy guy. Right, that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I don't know, maybe he had to sell his Wu Tang album. I don't know what happened with that. I'm sure they weren't pumped that that was the dude who bought their album. But it was a good idea.

Oh, it's a great idea. He did sell it.

If Tool wanted to make One album. They would make like, I don't know,

I'm all over it.

Millions.

Oh, Tool. Oh my God. One of the best shows I've ever seen was Tool. For sure.

Tool. Me too. In Boston.

Oh, you saw him in Boston? Oh, that's great.

Right before the Pandemic. It was the last show I went to.

Oh, wow. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. Maynard can. Maynard can sing.

Oh, man, it was, it was a holy experience. I really felt like it was holy.

Yo, some of that music and especially like Tool, you know, I saw them as Tool and I saw them as a perfect circle.

There is like, like this spiritual aspect, this feeling that, you know, you're just taken out of whatever else is on your mind and you're brought into this beautiful, like spiritual awakening. Almost that.

Yeah, describe.

It's just this uplifting feeling, you know.

No, I. And also I remember, you know, they. They were like, no phones, right? They're like, you pull out a phone, we're taking it away.

And I was like, that's very groovy. And then they had like a. Almost like for the first, like, I don't know, like 20 or 30 minutes, there was a sheet around them or like some.

It was like some sort of like hanging thing that eventually they pulled back. But it was like foreplay, you know, they were like, look, we'll play the music for you. But like, you know, and then they like slowly undressed.

It was really cool. And then at the end they had such like this beautiful reception receiving. Like they let everyone do their phones for the last song.

And then like afterwards they just like received the applause in this like super open hearted way. I was looking, I was like, who are these? These men are unbelievable.

They are, they are absolutely unbelievable. And they're in control of their own destiny. You know, that I think that.

And in particular they're gonna do what they want to do and if they don't want to do it, then they're not gonna do it. And that's, that's how it should be. It's their. It's their baby. It's their creative pro, their creative project. It's, you know, it's theirs.

It's their creative control. And Maynard.

Yeah? I mean, I think when people get to a certain level of their confidence and they can say no, right?

And when you're able to say, no, I'm not going to do that, or no, I'm not going to compromise, that is where there's like this very interesting level of artistic freedom. It also, I think, can Be a detriment when you have no one in your circle that says no to you.

Because we've all seen people get super successful and then they get fucking really shitty ideas. But, no, everyone's afraid to say no to them because they're famous and successful.

So then they start making kind of, like, crappy shit because, so it's interesting, like, you get to a level of success where you can say no, and that's really important. But then if no one says no to you, you're not. You're not always doing your best work, where.

If you're at a level where you're still, like, hustling, like, I don't say no to. You know, like, someone's like, I'll say. I'll say yes. Yes, yes.

You know, and there's something to be said that's like, not so good about that either, because I'm always, like, a little desperate, you know, I'm always like, well, let's. I don't have that confidence to just be like, no, I'm not doing that, man.

Well, it sounds like you have that openness, too. You're willing to kind of go out of the comfort box or. Or whatever your base is.

Because I, you know, if you're gonna just say yes, yes, all the time, or if you're gonna have yes men around you, where's the growth? Where is. Yeah, where is the. The what makes you you? You know, And I think having yes men around you.

And I had this conversation with someone recently that if you have people just saying yes, yes, all the time, those aren't your friends. Those aren't the people that are going to support you at the end. Those are the ones along for the ride.

And when that is over, and sometimes it's over real quick, you know, those are the ones that aren't going to answer their phones. Those are the ones that are not going to be around. And it's just. It's a shame to think about it that way. It's kind of.

Kind of negative, but it's true. It's true. The ones that are going to support you along the way, the ones that care and that love you and.

And that really want you to do your best are the ones that are gonna call a spade a spade. They're gonna call on you. They're gonna say, I don't know, Tony, that shirt.

I don't know about that one, you know, or they're gonna say, I don't know about Joe. I don't know about that pink. That pink Whatever you're wearing there, that

lanyard, I love pink in on dudes, actually. It's a great look. Yeah. I'm a huge fan. Yeah. I'm like, no, no, more pink.

More pink.

Yeah. Because it's a bright color. It really brightens because it brightens the skin.

Oh, that's a good thing to know. I definitely need that with my pale Irish skin, for sure.

Oh, pink. Pink's your color.

It's my new bright pink.

Just saying. Just throwing that out there. Yeah.

I mean, it's also interesting because, you know, as like an artist or a creator, your friends and your family are not your fans.

Right.

And that's something that, like, is interesting to me. I think my most supportive people are strangers when it comes to my, like, career. Like, I think my friends and family. Family are in an abstract way.

They're like, yeah, you know, and they'll come to something. If I'm like, come to this. They'll come. But it's interesting. It's. Especially with the Internet, we're able to create these connections to people.

You know, it's like people DM you and then you become friends. Like, you can. I have so many stranger friends I'm never going to meet. Like, people will be like, I want to send you. Oh, my God. I did have a really.

I do a really funny stranger sending me thing story.

So this girl who's, like, super sweet who, like, always writes me, like, wicked nice messages, she's like, I'm going through surgery and I've been making all these, like, weed lollipops. Like, can I send you some? And I was like, oh, that's like, super nice. Like, sure. Like, that's really kind. I'm not.

Someone's like, I want to send you something. I'm never going to say no because that's energetically. It's like, it's kind. Someone wants to share something with you.

Absolutely.

Yeah. That sounds great. So she sends me this package and I'm not home. I actually don't use my phone on Saturdays. I have a cell free Saturday.

So I. I'm not even. No one can reach me. So I'm not home and no one can reach me. And my kid is home alone with her friend. A friend who, like, came over for a playdate.

So they're home alone. And I had ordered her things on Poshmark, which is like, you know, like, person to person.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I've tried to Poshmark, right.

I tried to resell T shirts and shirt and shirts on there.

Huge into Poshmark. Because I'm like, I'm not buying you anything new, kid, but I'll get you some new on Poshmark. So she was having this, like, stuff. Come on, Poshmark.

So these packages came. She's like, oh, it's the Poshmark stuff.

She's opening them up, and she's finding her shirts or whatever, and then she opens up her and her little friend open up the box of lollipops, and I thank God they were like, neon goddamn green.

Like, the girl made them green, and

she put the weed leaf on them. And my kid was like, oh, I think these are weed lollipops. Oh, no, we should not eat them.

Because she couldn't call me and ask, like, what's up these lollipops?

You raise her right? You raised her.

Oh, my God. I was like. I came home, I was like, holy fucking goddess.

I can't even imagine a world in which you and your little friend were home alone eating weed pops. You know? Like, I was like, you're so. That's why it's good to in. I mean, like, she knows because she watches my videos.

But I was like, that is so crazy and so funny, and I'm so glad that she is intelligent to know. Like, don't eat anything that mom gets sent in the mail.

Have mom test it first and she'll share.

Yeah, like, yeah, smart.

It's like the president. If the president gets something in the mail, they. They.

Yeah, like, let it be. Yeah, it's not safe. Mom's mail is not safe.

That's funny. That's funny. So you said you have a daughter. Obviously, we just talked about that. How. How old is she?

She's eleven. Eleven and a half.

Oh, she was. She knew enough that. See, that's great. Parents.

She knew enough. I mean, because I also. It's like, we talk about these things because I think it's important because actually, I don't drink at all. So she's.

She's never seen me wasted or anything, but she's seen my videos. And so I explain, like, what weed is. And. And, like, I once got sent psychedelics in the mail. So I was like, I got sent psych.

And she was there when I opened it. She's like, what are those? I was like, oh, they're psychedelics. You know, you just told her.

That's actually very, very honorable.

I think it really works, at least for me and our family, it works better to just be, like, upfront about it, because I think that, like, Then she, when she's exposed to these things with her friends, like a, she's gonna know she can talk to me about it and be like, I don't know if you ever got way too up as a child. Like, I had so many nights where I was so up and I felt so alone, you know, and you're like kind of scared.

And I'm hoping that I'm creating a lifestyle where if she was ever like too up, she could call me and be like, I'm really too up. And I'll be like, oh, that' totally fine. I'm a great trip guide. Like, come home. Like, I'll be, you'll be okay.

You know, like, I want to be able to be there for her or her friends or whatever. Because I mean, most kids experiment with stuff and you want to feel like safe.

Like you can always go home to your, your mom and feel, feel better if you're like tripping, you know, that's

the number one person, that's the number one person true is mom. And yeah, I, I think that's great.

I, I, I think that's, you know, from what I've found, I'm not a parent yet, so I don't have a lot of, a lot of juice in the blender on that.

But you know, just being honest, like being able to say, okay, these are psychedelics and you shouldn't touch them, you know, but just like not saying, okay, this is poison, you know, it's like,

yeah, this is something, this is a spiritual thing that grown ups do because we need to feel what it is to be you, a child. Like again, you are in a magical state of consciousness and awareness and when you grow up, you lose connection to that.

So we do drugs in order to feel the magic that you're already existing in, so you don't need to worry about it. And she's like, oh, cool, that's true.

I never really thought of it that way.

That's like that playfulness of. Because I remember I had, there was this one time where so I did not smoke. I took a break from like 29 until like for seven years I took a break.

And so for all of my kids, like young, young ages, like, I was not, I was never stoned. Like, I never had anything. I was like very fucking sober. Part of which is because I was breastfeeding.

And you can't like breastfeed stoned because that's crazy. You know, like someone's feeding off of you, like they're velociraptor and then, like, watching someone eat, you might get hungry and.

And, like, there's a free one. And, you know, like, I was like, I'm not. So then I remember. Then I finally, a couple years later, she's a little older. I started.

I started smoking a little bit. And I remember my husband and I, he had these videos of her as a baby, and she's, like, on a tractor or something.

And he took this, like, two and a half minute video of her, like, on a tractor. And I'm watching this, and he's, like, really in it, you know, like, he was really, like, into the shots and, like, really capturing the moment.

And they were having this great time. And I was like, oh. I was like, were you, like, a little stoned when you were doing this?

And I could tell he suddenly was, like, felt like, shame or embarrassed about it, but I just started, like, crying, and he was like, oh, my God, like, what?

And I was like, I just feel like I, like, really wasted so much of her childhood, like, not being high and appreciating it like you are, because he was so appreciating it. And, like, as a completely sober person, like, sometimes you're, like, on your phone and you're totally fucking distracted.

And, like, if you're, like, a little high around a kid, you're like, yes, let's draw for, like, an hour. Absolutely. Like, I'll play My Little Pony with you. Like, you can really connect in this way. That was, like, really awesome.

And so it's funny how, you know, it's like, all your kids want from you is to connect and to, like, have you not be distracted. And being with a kid can be a little boring if you're not, like, totally in your imagination, because it's hard to, like, oh, I can't imagine.

So if you're, like, a little high, then you can imagine you don't want to look at your phone. You want to, like, be with the kid.

Be part of. Be in the moment. Be. Be fun. Be a kid again.

Yeah, yeah. Like, I felt like from 5 to 8, like, it was a really cool way to connect and to just, like, be.

That's interesting.

And not.

Because, like, then I knew she was gonna, like, stay alive, you know, I was like, okay, like, I can chill out a little, you know, I didn't have to be, like. So, like, don't touch that. It's hot.

Yeah.

So I don't know. I do think it's interesting, like, how. How to really, like, be playful, you know, that's such an important Part of life.

It is, it is. And I like how you mentioned just a little high, just a little stone, not like out of your mind, can't take care of this kid. Aren't responsible.

Just like a little, little bit of sprinkles on the Sunday.

Yeah.

You know, we're not talking the whole thing. Not talking the bananas, but just some sprinkles, some jimmies. Some jimmies.

Oh, my God. I was just talking about Jimmy's versus sprinkles the other day. Yeah. And I was like, jimmy's? Is that just a mass thing?

Does anyone else call them jimmies?

I. That's actually a conversation that I've had too, recently. That's funny that you bring that up. I think it is.

I think it's just our, like, area of, like, New England where it's just jimmies, but Jimmy. Jimmies. Yeah. Which are anyone listening or watching us right now who don't know what jimmies are?

Those are the black sprinkles, the chocolate sprinkles, basically. So you have your rainbow sprinkles and you have your, your chocolate sprinkles that you put on ice cream. And around Massachusetts.

Why were they called Jimmy's? Like, what was that about?

I, if I had to guess, it's something racial. But I don't even want to.

Not good.

It's not good.

When you said, like, we only called the brown sprinkles Jimmy's, I'm like, wait a second.

Yeah, I used the wrong one there. Use the wrong word there.

The, the, the multi colored ones were still sprinkles.

Yeah. Rainbow sprinkles.

That's up. Yeah, we need to look that up. We need to look.

Yeah. I'm making a note right now with my handy dandy pen. We'll take a look at that. We will. And we'll, we'll. We'll circle back. We'll circle back.

Circle back. Because that's an important thing to know if we need to, like, cancel that word. It sounds wrong.

It sounds like I should never say it again, but I think I, I made the authentic shift already to sprinkles. So.

Yeah, now I, now I feel like a dirt bag because we're gonna end up canceling one of my favorite things, which is Jimmy's. But that's 20, 22 for you. We're just canceling everything to cancel it.

It seems we just gotta call it what it is. Sprinkles.

Good point.

Chocolate sprinkles. Yeah.

And hopefully we can continue to call them sprinkles. And not just chocolate toppings. And then just toppings. And then just.

Why? Yeah, we have to.

Because how deep do we go, Tony?

And words that are kind of interesting is like, words are really up. Like, you know, words.

The words matter.

If you're watching television, you're watching programs, right? You're watching television programs. You're programming your mind. You change the channel because you're channeling information.

You know, like the week. The weekday. Like, your week, and then your week ends like that. Those are really weird words. And then like, hello? Like hell. Oh, I don't know.

There's so many weird words possessing each other.

Hello.

Oh, it's like, wait, what the is that all about?

Welcome to my hell. Welcome to what a. I'll go with hi. Hey, and how you doing? I guess.

I think that little hi sounds better. Hey. Hey. Yeah, but hello. I just think we're always like, language is predictive programming, so we're always using words that I think are actually.

Or we're conditioned to use words that are probably not that beneficial to our cellular.

I got you there. I got you there. I think words, too, in general. Like, our language has evolved from so many different languages.

Like, English really evolved from Latin, you know, and those. Those different influences and all this influx of. Of discovers and different countries that came over to really mount their poll on new America.

But of course, the Native Americans were here, too. So, like, when I have a. A group or a meeting, sometimes I call it a powwow. And I don't know if that's. If that should be canceled yet. I'm not sure.

Yeah, I think. I think you're probably not allowed to say that anymore.

Oh, boy. All right. Well, over two, I guess.

Over two, yeah. But you know what?

I didn't know.

We have to just learn, and we can't shame and guilt people for we were learning. We learned something today about the chocolate sprinkles that we're like, oh, that probably has a bad history.

So, I mean, I think the thing that's interesting to me about, like, the evolution of our consciousness is that we have to be open, that it's an evolution. Like, you have to. You have to grow into seeing things in a new way. I mean, if I think about my own sexism, like, just, let's take everyone.

Let's just focus on sexism. Because I'm a woman, there were so many things that I am even still discovering to this day. I can be really sexist about.

And I'm a chick, you know, even as a woman. Yeah, I'm surprised as a woman, if I am still. If I'm still dealing with internalized misogyny and sexism, et cetera, et cetera.

Of course, the rest of society is.

Of course, men are, you know, like, we are all brainwashed, and we are all trying to do our best to, like, figure out the programming, but I get frustrated when people get so judgmental for people for being brainwashed. I'm like, no, no, we all are. Like, we. No one came out of the womb, eyes open, ready to just, like, question everything.

Like, no, we were all like, what did this adult say?

Like, what's going on? I don't know where I am.

Covered in birth cheese. Like, there's a lot.

Oh, can I have a burger with a side of birth cheese, please?

I bet it's a lot of protein.

I've heard that. I've heard the placenta or birth cheese is Now. Now I'm only gonna call it that. It's really nutritious.

Like, you know, women who give birth, they'll actually save the placenta for later on. I guess. This is.

Yeah, no, you can make pills from it. You can put it into soup. I actually took mine home, but I buried it under a tree. Placenta tree.

But my husband always forgets and calls it the placebo tree. He was like, oh, there's the placebo tree. I'm like, it's placenta, but nice try.

Scented tree. And that thing grew.

It grew. Yeah. It's a. It's a blossoming, fertile tree.

That's beautiful. I need a picture of that for sure. At some point, I did not have

it in me to be like, I'm gonna consume this placenta. Because I was like, yeah,

apparently it's the thing to do. I don't even know if it's. If it's healthy. I have no idea. That's. We're gonna have to circle back on that one, too.

We're gonna have to circle back on that. I had a friend, lotus birth, which is. Listen to this.

You give birth, and then you keep the baby attached to the umbilical cord, and then you pull out there, you birth out the placenta.

So then the baby is in, like, the thing, and then the umbilical cord is attached to the placenta, and you carry them both externally until the belly button falls off, and it's called a lotus birth. So she would, like, be like, oh, here's my baby. And, like, here's the placenta that you have to hold with it. I mean, I. That's Some next level.

I should look into that too. But that was wild. I mean, I'm like, that's. That's.

Oh, my God. That's funny. Here's my baby and here's this placenta.

And he's like, oh, what a cute little placenta. You are like, do you put the place insane if you haven't seen it? I highly suggest, like, looking it up. It looks like a lung. It's very, like.

It's kind of like a. It's got like tree branches, but it. It looks alive, you know, like.

Well, it is alive. Kind of. Kind of. So wait, do they pull the umbilical cord right out of her?

No, you birth it. That's what's. So you have to push after you birth a baby, then you have to birth the placenta. Isn't that. They don't tell you that right after the.

The doctor was like, well, now you push out the placenta. I was like, suck a dick, bro. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I gotta put birth. Another thing. It was. They do not warn you about that.

I had. I. Wow. I have no words right now. Lotus Birth. Everyone check out Lotus Birth.

Yeah, check it out.

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Yeah. I think you have to put dots in there.

Thoughts underscores. We'll. We'll definitely have it all over the place when this interview airs over here on Blind Knowledge.

Tony, how did you go from sketch comedy, like you mentioned before, to this, like, it's almost like this new thing. And that's why I wanted to have you on because, you know, there's a lot of things in the world I like that catch my eye.

But the people I want to talk to are the innovators.

And I definitely think you're an innovator because you're taking this physical comedy, this, like, wacky, wavy, like just constantly moving, like, coming, like, just coming. The energy's coming out of you, but you're also saying funny things at the same time. And obviously it takes a certain level of energy, for sure.

You got to be in some kind of shape to do that. But how did you come up with that idea? Like, where. Where did that come from?

I. The first one I ever did was I wanted to do an interpretive dance about what it felt like to get stoned. So that was the very first one.

Like, I kind of started off and I was like, okay, I'm taking a hit, and, like, what do I feel?

And then I just interpreted danced my feelings for, like, a half an hour as I smoke, trying to, like, understand what it was like, trying to express the feeling of being stoned through my body. But, like, I am a dancer. I do own a dance studio. I dance a lot. Like, I actually do dance. So I have this training of dance. And I am also.

You know, it's funny because people always, like, how are you not out of breath? Because I'm a dance teacher, I'm always fucking talking as I'm dancing because I'm telling people, 5, 6, 7, 8.

And, like, pull up and, like, drop your tailbone. And I'm constantly working my mouth. So dancing and talking is something that I just am already doing in my life.

And I think it kind of, like, came slowly. I think the second one I did was about crispr, like, the gene modification.

And so I just was like, oh, I thought, Chris, no one was really talking too much about crispr. Maybe this was, like, two, three years ago. Two years ago, pre Pandemi. And I just was like, oh, I'll just, like.

I think I was just, like, at my dance studio, and I was like, oh, I'll just, like, talk about CRISPR and I'll interpretive dance my feelings about crispr. And I think that thing that's, like.

When I said the word interpretive dance in my own head, to me, that meant, like, moving my body in a way that was, like, meant to be contorted, comedic and, like, like, not trying to look my prettiest or my best. And I think that with comedy, when you're trying to look your prettiest or your best, you're probably not your funniest.

And so there was something really freeing to me about, like, moving in a way where I wasn't trying to, like, show, like, hey, I'm this, like, really unbelievable dancer, Which, I'm just, like, a fine dancer, to be honest. But I am a funny dancer, you know, so that's great.

And, like, being able to be funny, it just opened up so much possibility of moving in a way that was, like, so unselfconscious Like, I wasn't trying to be good. I was trying to be bizarre or, like, awkward.

And trying to be awkward or trying to be bizarre is a lot more fun than trying to be good or trying to be pretty, you know, so. So I think I did one on crispr. I did one on, like, reverse aging, like the science behind how we can reverse aging.

And I just kind of like, I would do them more sporadically. And then I did one on the US Military being the number one contributor for climate change.

And I was like, wearing this, like, prairie dress and I was like, in a field and I don't know, I was just like, sunset. I was like, I'll just talk about.

Because I thought that was really a crazy statistic or interesting statistic around the US Military and not something that we talk about that often. I mean, I think it's just when we think about climate change, the US Military being like, the biggest force to reckon with is a lot to process. Yeah.

So I was like, oh, we'll do it in this format. It'll be fun. And that video, I mean, it had its own life, especially on, like, alt right Reddit, you know, like alt right Twitter.

But it kind of had this different life of people that were defending me. Like, some people were like, cringe, like this fucking dumb bitch. And some people were like, I think what she's doing is interesting.

And Ben Shapiro, who's a conservative political pundit, he like, did like, he gets like, pushed all these, like, liberal videos to then, like, critique or, you know, put his opinion on. And he watched my video and he didn't agree with me. He wasn't like, I 100 agree with what she's saying.

But he was like, actually kind of kind about my format. You know, he was like, oh, I. I found that entertaining. And I was like, oh, okay.

So this is a way of saying information that maybe people are not going to agree with me, but they will watch it because they're kind of compelled or disgusted or, you know, like. Or disarmed or curious. And that, to me was so interesting. It's like, how do I penetrate the psyches of people that do not think the way I do at all?

Yeah, and that's. That's actually so cool. And that's kind of what I got out of it sort of in. In when I first started listening.

Because you're bringing up topics that aren't really brought up a lot for whatever reason that probably should. You know, these things are definitely worth talking about. That's. So that automatically Caught my attention.

And then your mode of transport, you're putting your ass in the air, you know, not in, like, this really sexually way, but just like, you're stretching.

I don't know how I make it ass. So not sexual, but I managed to achieve that goal.

Well, I didn't mean it like that. I mean. Well, I'm not even going to continue on with that, but I am.

I'm exactly doing that, but in a bizarro fashion.

It's like this stretching and like this. This. I don't even know what to call it. It's like this movement. It's like the energy is going through your body and it's coming out your.

Your mouth, and it's coming into our ears. And it's like you're not just standing there with a book and just saying, okay, well, this is why the US Government should do so and so.

And this is why. Should do so and so. And. Or this is. This is how chicken yoga went. You know, you're. You're actually, like, getting out there and. And giving, like a. A.

Not a presentation, but this. This comedic. Yeah, comedic presentation, I guess you could say. It's like, you're not just out there walking around giving jokes and stuff. You're.

You're doing it in, like, this wacky way that catches your attention. Like, what is she doing? What's she gonna do next? Is she gonna follow it? What is.

Yeah, is she gonna fall? I mean, I think it's interesting. There is the archetype of the fool, right?

And so that is an identity or a personality I play with a lot, which is the fool, because the fool is open, and the fool is not saying, like, I know and you don't know. The fool is just asking questions.

And I think that is, like, when I watch videos, when somebody is giving information and they're talking down to me or they're acting like I'm stupid for not knowing this. I mean, it goes back to kind of what we're talking about. Cancel culture. It's like, we have to learn. Oh, we learned. You and I learned something today.

We're like, oh, that's a racial slur when it came to ice cream treats. And we're gonna stay away from that racial slur. Now we know and now we know. But it's like when you play the fool, I.

All I'm doing is I'm presenting information, I'm asking questions, and I'm not saying that I know I'm not taking myself seriously, and I don't think I'M making someone feel dumb for not knowing or thinking or talking about this. And I think that is where to me, the most interesting kind of conversation takes place.

Because I remember there's this one girl who I follow on TikTok who. And I actually very rarely unfollow people because I like to support people. But every time she spoke, she spoke as.

She was just like, you're a fucking idiot for not knowing what I'm about to say. And I was like, man, that is. That's just not gonna seduce people. Like, we have to seduce each other into being curious and asking questions.

And that is where I want to put my energy in. My vibe is in curiosity and is in questions and being wrong and being okay. Being wrong and then being like, oops, I was fucking wrong.

Like, I will move forward and like, that's. And maybe I'll make an. And I will 100% make another mistake. And that's so more the kind of, like, cultural connections I want to be making is.

I want to be wrong. I want to be asking questions. I want to be making a fool of myself in order to just connect.

Because people don't connect when they feel dumb around you.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. No one wants to be told they're stupid or dumb. And, you know, you bring these things up in such a fun way. It's like, you know, we.

It's almost like you take the spotlight off of us while we're learning.

A lot of times, you know, if you've ever been in college classes, you know, back in high school or wherever, maybe just out, you know, know, you see some kind of presentation, you get talked down to a lot. You're told what to think, told how it goes, told this and that. This is A to Z. This is what you have to do. You have to follow it. A to Z.

Your presentation is more, okay, I'm gonna do these wacky things. So, you know, the person learning doesn't have to be. Feel like they're in this position of, okay, it has to be this way because she's saying it.

She's right.

Or we don't even have to feel embarrassed for not knowing. It's almost like you put this fun kind of not embarrassing because it's funny. It could go either way. I think it could be. Really.

Some people are like, cringe, stop moving. I can't pay attention to you. Stop. Like, people have that reaction. But that's okay. There's plenty of still people out there. So you can find.

You can't catch all the fish. In the sea, you know, you can't, you can't. Even with the biggest net, you're not going to get all the shrimp.

But I think your style, especially for like a younger generation, even like even younger than, you know, I don't go younger than 21 for my demographic or whatever demographics, whatever those are.

But even like grade school kids would really get a lot out of that kind of presentation, that learning, that kind of teacher association, because you don't feel bad for what you don't know. You don't feel bad and bringing even out of that younger kiss, even someone. I'm 35, you know, and it connects with me too.

It's like, you know, I don't feel bad for what I, what I haven't learned yet or, or, you know, I don't feel stupid or shame or, or, you know, it really gives me the openness to get away from those things that can really bog down your brain to think a little open and a little differently. It gets rid of that and then it goes to, okay, what's she saying? You know, does it connect with me? You know, it brings it to the next level.

And I think that presentation is really funny too. And I think that funniness gets rid of that like, awkwardness almost that like, you have to be, you know, suit and tie kind of thing. Learn this now.

Whereas, you know, you're giving it in such a fun way and it's, it's real info, it's real truthful and it's funny and all connects. And that's what I like about you.

I mean, I really appreciate that. And I think like, for me personally, it was interesting to be doing something on the Internet that really no one else was doing.

Like, I've never really seen anyone else do that. Like someone's done it after me and I've been like tagged before, but I've never really seen somebody do it.

And that was where I was like, kind of like, oh, wow, like I'm doing like that to me, kind of was mind blowing because so much is done on the Internet. Like, there's hardly anything that I could do on the Internet that hasn't been done, especially on like pornhub. Haha. Just kidding.

But, but like to, to do something that like felt kind of like really just something that I. Even if someone else did that they couldn't, they wouldn't be doing it the same way I was doing it anyway. So there was a, an interesting uniqueness.

And then I think the thing that, you know, that like inspires Me is that. I don't know.

I really believe that our way out of the apocalyptic kind of scenario that we are potentially in is not going to be through thinking our way out.

I do believe it's going to be through feeling our way out, and I do believe it's going to come from joy, and I believe it's going to come from a place of gratitude and appreciation and positivity. I. I just don't think we're going to, like, fight our way out of dire circumstances. That just doesn't make sense to me.

So what I am trying to do is just exemplify, you know, a way of being. And it's not the only way of being, obviously, but it's a way of being.

And I think that if we all allow ourselves that kind of unabashed and unselfconscious expression of like, joy, happy playfulness, whatever, even when talking and thinking about fucking horrendous shit, there's. I just think that that's a medicine. It's a medicine.

I agree. I agree. It is a medicine. It's just. It's like an herb or a natural vitamin. It's like calcium or vitamin D. Yeah.

Or. Yeah, like a magnesium.

Yeah. It's something that's in us all. You know, even. Even the. The brutal, brash dictators that are out there, you know, I'm sure they laugh too, you know.

Well, them. But, you know, they definitely laugh.

Yeah. And if they laugh more, maybe they would murder less, you know, that's the

knowledge we gotta drop here on blind knowledge. That's what I'm talking about. Sorry. For sure, for sure. And it's like. Yeah, you give this wholesome kind of feel. Feel. And like, the topics you.

You push some. You push some interesting topics. For sure. What are some of the ones that you've gotten the most positive feedback on?

Or maybe I think my most popular one. Well, there was the one I did on the military, which I kind of had the most like, a viral impact for. For me personally.

But like, my most popular one, I. I talked about my conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.

Yeah, I saw that one. Yep.

And the funny thing about that one was, like, my daughter had a cameo because she ended up scaring the. Out of me. And like, I didn't know she was behind me. And like, so there was like that funny, like, kind of comedic moment to that.

That was the first one I saw, actually. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And she terrified me. So it was real. There was like this weird kind of thing where she just like. I'M talking about consciousness conspiracies.

And then there's almost like there seems to be this conspiracy behind me because you, as the audience, could see her walking behind me. But, like, I. It was funny. It was like art imitating life imitating art because the viewer knew something I didn't authentically.

I didn't stage that, obviously, which it just happened to go with the topic about conspiracies.

But, you know, that one was an interesting one because usually I, like, was a little more planned about what I was going to say and, like, really kind of had more because I did one about, like, a couple. I did one about World War II. I did one about. I've done a bunch about capitalism. So, like, they're a little more like.

They're facts I want to remember and stuff. Like. So I would have, like, notes, but that one was more just like an idea I had. I just wanted to share. So it's. It's in.

It's interesting how that one was the most. I was the most relaxed, and that was one where I think I lost years of my life.

It went pretty big, though. I mean, I saw the numbers. It was. It was big.

views and likes and shares, comments for days. People loving it. People not understand.

Yeah, I think I have like three, three, three and a half million on my page, so.

Nice.

But I think the thing about that one that, like, I liked is that both political parties could hear that one.

True.

And I'm really kind of like. I'm most interested in, like, who. Who is coming to. Like. I am. Like, both. To me, both parties are. So. I'm so disheartened by.

I am, too.

What's going on in terms of, like, the elite, you know, 1% of our representation.

Where is the rep. Where is it?

And I, I really believe it has to be a merger of both parties. It has to happen.

And I, you know, like, the way I see it, that's why racism, sexism, homophobia are so important to the status quo, is because that's what's keeping us apart. Like, it. I, I really think that if we could heal the. The.

The racial tension, the gender tension, and, like, the sexuality tension, that's the revolution that I'm looking for, you know?

So, yeah, hell, yeah.

I really want to. I want to create conversations where both people who identify as whatever can kind of start finding that. That Venn diagram.

That's a good point. Yeah, the Venn dia. The good old Venn diagram, you know.

Yeah.

Bring it All.

Bring it all together. Bring it all together.

Namaste. Hell yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. I've done a little warrior poses in my day for sure. A couple, actually. I used to, I used to do this 20 minute cardio yoga with Tom. What was his name?

Tom Morley. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. He's a yoga now.

Great cardio yoga, though. Sounds good.

Yeah, yeah, it's some, some really good stuff. You said you own a, a dance studio your own with.

Yeah, in Vermont.

Yeah, Vermont. Okay. Is it the Tony Nagy Studio?

No, it's actually just got a new business partner. It's called Sidestream Studio, like Side Stream Studio.

Okay.

Yeah. Like off the mainstream. We're Side Stream.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Simple and simple and smart. That's what's up.

Yeah.

Because I think that like getting into our bodies is where we're going to do so much trauma and so much mental suffering and psychological, emotional suffering is stored in the body. And so when we can start to connect to it and release it, it has major impact in your life, you know? Well, they, I really do believe that,

but they said there's different chakras in your body and they, you know, your spine. What I've learned, because I've had, I had a.

And I still have a herniated disc which will never heal, but you can keep it loose or whatever, which is why I don't deadlift anymore, folks. No more cleaning for this guy. I was lifting big weights, but not anymore. That's okay. Yeah, you got to be careful with that stuff.

And, and what I've learned is your spine, it actually syncs up to different organs and different processes in your body.

So there's a part of your spine that lines up with your heart and your lungs, and there's a part of your spine that lines up with your stomach and your digestive system. So. And this is the awesome chiropractors I've been to.

They've taught me that like when they do certain adjustments, it's actually supposed to open up these, these flows of, of processes and energy within your body. You know, you're. It seems like you're big on the yoga and I have to get into this because it's, it's just so funny, this chicken yoga thing.

Why, how, why did it go so

my friend had all these fucking chickens, you know, And I was like, oh, I want to come over and make a video about chicken yoga. We had no plan. I was like, I'm just going to come over and you're just going to follow my lead, you know. She was like, okay.

She was such a good sport about it. She's also a yogi, which is. And she's actually my new business partner. She's awesome. And she's a comedian as well.

But we just had so much fun because there was all the goat yoga, you know, and I kept seeing videos of goat yoga. So I was like, oh, be funny to kind of do a spoof and make it chicken yoga.

Because I have to say, I think when you make fun of yourself, that's like the kind of the, the best comedy to do. So I'm such a new age yoga loving, hippie, kind of open minded, open hearted chick. I have to make fun of that, you know.

And also I love making fun of the concept of influencers. So it's like someone like, you know, like having one thing and then completely switching on the other side of it.

So like someone being like wanting to be the yoga person and disgusted by the chickens like that to me is really funny.

Okay.

Chicken yoga really just was making me laugh as a concept. And then also just the irony of like what we're putting, you know, it's like we're taking this like super sacred practice that.

As a western white chick, am I ever gonna understand yoga in its like nascent form? Like, I don't think so. You know, I'm creating, I am experiencing a westernized version of something that I'm then broadcasting on the Internet.

So it's like how not to make fun of the contradictions and the complexity of that. Like, yeah, I love making fun of it even though I love practicing it genuinely.

So you're saying there's an American version of yoga versus the yoga, yoga version of yoga.

Oh, I mean, I think what's kind of interesting about yoga is that like yoga came from the east and then had this infiltration in the west, and then the west went back to India and influenced it in its own way. So there is like the traditional yogic, you know, knowledge that exists and then there's also the Western infiltration of it.

I had no idea.

They, you know, they, they're copacetic in a certain sense. But I think what's kind of interesting about, you know, most Western knowledge is that it does not honor the roots of where it came from.

You know, it's like, oh, everything that we're talking about, like if I were an ancient Buddhist that like Traveled in time 3,000 years and then I heard like quantum physicists being like, yeah, have you Heard everything's connected. I would be like, yes, I have. Have you not been listening for three?

String theory, motherfucker? Come on.

We know it's connected, dude. Like, we've been saying it. And, like, so much of Western thought and math and science is just, like, directly taken from Africa, you know?

So it's like, I think there is this. This Western imperialism when it comes to knowledge and truth that's, like, actually existed since the aboriginals and 50,000 years ago.

I don't think we've learned anything in 50,000 years, to be honest. I think we've, like, made technology. But have we learned anything from a certain spiritual deep place? More than, like. I don't think so. I don't know.

Maybe, but I doubt it. I think we're still. I don't think.

Yeah, yeah, I can. I can get down with that. Yeah. Because, you know, what is to. What is to know is to be known, basically. And how much more do we have to learn? Sure.

I mean, there's. There's other things out there we got to figure out, you know, why. Now there's a lot of wise. You know, why are we still.

Why are we still spinning out in the. In a ball, out in space? You know, what's out there? You know, what's even further than out there.

You know, there's always things we're gonna have to learn, but, yeah, the basics, I think we all got that. I think it's just kind of. We keep spinning it around to figure out which is the best way or which is the most prominent way.

Like, you look at dieting, you know, dieting, it used to be like, Atkinson, that's the way to go. Go Atkins. And then it was like, it sucks. Actually go with the one that Oprah was saying. I can't think of it off the top of my head or slim fast.

You know, that was the thing for a little while, and then it's like, all right, now it's. Now it's be a vegetarian. Now this new thing called veganism, you know, be a vegan. Have you ever heard of kale? You probably haven't, but check it out.

It's the new great thing. And it's like, we keep evolving, Keep evolving, but really what it comes down to is, you know, it's less calories. You know, they. What is. It's.

Well, I shouldn't say it that way. It's. It's actually, you take in less calories than you burn.

You know, you make sure you have a nutritious meals with the Right vitamins, the right minerals, and you kind of just work to your physical nature. Exercise really, you know, but we're just trying to find the right answer.

We're trying now, you know, diet now do this way and that way when really we know the answer. We're just trying to just, we're just making it more difficult than it really is. Don't you think?

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know that someone once said to me because I've done a couple of ten day silent meditation retreats and I have a Buddhist meditation practice and I think it was, it was another practitioner when I was leaving the retreat or it may have been one of the monks. They said that the most difficult thing about Buddhism is how simple it is. So you know, we have these actually, like, how do you love yourself?

How do you be compassionate towards others? You know, how do you be mindful? These are simple questions and it will take a lifetime to explore. You know, we are all connected, we are all one.

Like that's a very simple concept. But how often do you feel connected or do you feel one with all things?

And so, I mean, it's interesting you bring up the dieting aspect because you know, our food is what you are what you eat.

Like literally you are, you are consuming, you are bringing in, into your body and then your body is integrating the nutrition and the, the stuff you're bringing in and it affects what you do,

your mood affects and how you think and your gut health, your energy level, all that. Yeah, totally.

And what is being, what is the most like poisoned plants on the planet is our food. You know, so it's like, oh, it feels so intentional.

There are so many, I mean there's, I, there's, I've gone into many a farming K holes, I'm in a big farming land and I, I just, you keep going back to like biodynamic organic farming, like really using the least amount of chemicals humanly possible. Like that is what, that is what's so important.

And you know, the vegan conversation is, is interesting because you know, it's like I, some, some people, you know, if you follow the eating by your blood type thing, it's like meat is maybe more important for their diet.

But it's like I never hear the conversation or I very rarely hear the conversation is like, okay, like if meat's very important for your diet or if you feel much healthier, like it's really important you have like organic meat or you know where your meat's coming from or you're not having like the processed meat that's coming from rainforests in Brazil. And like, how often do you have to have meat? Maybe you want to have meat just like once a week or once a month.

And that's gonna be what your body needs. Like, I wish it wasn't so dogmatic around these conversations. Like you're a vegan or fuck you, you're a fucking piece of shit.

Or it's like, oh, can you be? I mean people are talking about it, but like more plant based. And like you don't want to ingest the suffering animal.

Instead you want the animal to have had like a sacred life. And that to me is so much more of an interesting conversation than being super strict about one way of being exclusively.

Because then you're never going to get people on board. Bored. I think you have to kind of have a flexible understanding.

But the main thing we want to do is like be aware of the suffering that we're causing.

Yeah, no, I, I agree. 100 and that's another conversation that should be had. You know, you don't have to be just vegan. You don't have to be just non vegan.

You know, you can. Right in the middle. I guess maybe, you know, maybe you can have some, some fish. I don't know. I don't know if that's allowed.

Or you can have meat occasionally. Like I have someone makes me, me, I'm gonna eat it. And if I'm making my own food, I do not. And like, that feels okay.

You know, I had this like realization when I was at my meditation retreat because you, you, you know, you're silent and you're in your fucking head all the time. And then you would go to the dining hall.

And the dining hall was the one time where I was happy because I was eating and I wasn't dealing with like the torture of meditation all day. But then I would eat too fast and I would eat too much and I would always take too much.

Like, I would look around and everyone would have less than me. And I always had more. But then I was like, oh, well, I'm taller than these people, so I need to eat more. But then.

And I move more and then I'm like, but I. Am I an ecological terrorist because I'm tall and I'm moving all the time. I eat so much.

I had so much like going on in my head around, like, what am I supposed to be doing around food that makes sense and like feeling really greedy, you know, like always feeling kind of like. And I had this feeling Like, I want to, don't I? And the food, keep in mind, it's not like you had like the. It was fine.

It was just like rice and like some strange sort of like unidentiful, unidentifiable sea foam, you know, But I just wanted it. I wanted it. I wanted to consume it.

And then I realized after 11 days, it took me 11 days to get to the realization that I was like, oh, I need to eat. So that if everyone around me ate exactly as I did, there would be enough. And that was like, oh, okay.

So it's like, if we eat in a way where, like, if everyone had that same diet, that would be sustainable for the earth. That feels like a really groovy diet.

That does. It feels, feels natural. It feels like the way to be. It feels very, very peaceful, for sure. Wow. So you do a lot. You do. You do comedy.

You're a farmer, you're a dancer, you're a mother, you are a Buddhist. It sounds. Are you a Buddhist or just kind of. You are a Buddhist?

No, I, I'm a Buddhist, which is like, crazy to admit, but it's a philosophy that I. When I did these retreat, like, you become a Buddhist. And I, I'm not really part of groups, but I'm like, I am a Buddhist.

Like, I got like a ceremony and I, you know, like it. Yeah, it's interesting. It's like I'm, you know, it's been 12 years, you know, so I'm still learning so much.

You know, there's a lifetime of learning, but that's what.

It's.

The practice. Yeah.

Is learning.

I, I think that if, if people in general just keep their, Keep their minds open to learning more and, and even just digesting in some information and, you know, you don't have to agree with all of it, but at least you know about it. At least you're aware that there are different perspectives, there are different, different views that you can.

Look, you know, you can, you can take these different views and you can really learn and appreciate what's out there. And even if you don't agree, even if it's not your bag, it's just.

At least you're aware of it and maybe you won't be so violent or just like violently headed where it's just like, no, it can't be this way. No, we must be Democrat. No, we must be Republican. And that's the only way to be.

It's just like, well, especially in that space, those, those two things are basically the same at this Point. And Tony, I think we're establish our own political philosophy. We can.

Yeah, me too. Me too. I'm all about the third party. The next, the next thing, the next one.

Exactly. I, I agree. Because not to get too much into politics, but we, we always can. And we can. Over here. We're over here. Blind knowledge, actually.

I can speak, I swear. I swear.

But politics wise, you know, I think we can get deep into that because I believe believe in, you know, independence, you know, and I think when you look at your Democrats and Republicans and the people that are actually in there pushing the buttons and putting in the votes, yeah, they're one in the same. You know, they're all trying to make money off of stocks, as we've seen.

If you've ever followed Nancy Pelosi's stock trading, which I have actually for like a lot less than a year now, it's getting more publicized, but she's making some big dough. And they're all making big dough and.

Oh, yeah, you gotta wonder, you know, more on that subject, but you gotta wonder, you know, is that because they're only making so much money as a salary that they feel they have to go out of, almost out of bounds and play this, play this, this stock game where obviously they're getting inside information.

You know, you're seeing even the dates that they buy their stocks and then the dates where this public policy comes out to usually like one to three days, but beforehand, what's going on, they know what the deal is. And it's, you know, it just seems that these, these elected officials that we rely on, we literally rely on them.

It's not even like we look up to them, which is a whole nother conversation. We really should, but we don't. And, and it's, there's a reason why. But we'll get into that some other day.

But, you know, we look up to these, these folks, we rely on these folks. And it's like, what are they doing for us? You know, what's really going on? What's really the agenda? Is it really big pharma?

You know, is there a reason why marijuana hasn't been legalized? Even though you got the dude, big Republican in the Senate, you have another guy, big rep, Big Democrat in the Senate.

They agree, everyone agrees, but we just can't get things done. And it's just kind of sad. It's, it's perturbed. Perturbs me, I guess. I'm perturbed.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the thing is, is that if I Were to make an analogy, you know, if you're hanging out with someone and they're getting chocolate, you know, and you're like, oh, that chocolate looks good. And they're like, oh, yeah, this chocolate is good. And they're just eating it in front of you.

And then you're like, eventually you're like, I want some.

And I think that when you look at mystery of chocolate, the mystery of chocolate, it's like being around vice and just watching someone experience that vice. And like, oh, you watching someone, they're really having a great time with the chocolate.

Like, eventually you're going to be curious and you're going to want it. And I think that what happened with corporate influence in politics is that once it's started taking place for one party, which was kind of.

It kind of birthed itself, like the first, like, real intercourse that happened between corporations and politicians, you know, then everyone is like, in order to compete with that, I have to also do that. I can't be completely outside of that and not participate.

And I think that Bernie Sanders is one of the only modern politicians that proved, hey, I can actually financially compete in a campaign with small donations from people. And that was such a revolutionary concept, which was why the Democrats ended up burying him.

It wasn't the Republicans who buried Bernie Sanders, it was the Democrats.

It was his own. His own party.

And I think Bernie would be better off independent or like, in a different party, not the Green Party, you know, but maybe just something new like the Stepladder party or the Fluorescent Light party or whatever the hell you want.

Fluorescent light. I mean, I think he. When he first ran, it wasn't to win. It was to prove a point. And I think that. That the.

The deluge of support that he got is indicative of just what is possible if you were to take corporate. Corporate funding out of politics.

But the reality is, as long as the right is being corporately funded, the left is going to be corporately funded as well, because there is this belief system that's the only way to compete.

And I think growing and growing, going

and going and going, they're entangled.

And so it's like, if you can make an ATM, you can make a functioning voting machine, and you can also give people a fucking receipt. You know, like, it was so obvious there was, like, voting tomfoolery happening.

But if I'm going to see it in that election, I have to actually see it in every single election.

You know, and if I'm going to look at the George Floyd protests and be like, oh, wow, there are obviously agent provocateurs here that are creating scenarios where it looks like a riot. But that also was happening with the Capitol storming. There was agent provocateurs. Like, there are.

It's happening all the time with both parties constantly. And, like. But the thing is, is that it's easier to see it with the people you don't agree with as much than it is to see it with your own party.

And I think that's what's kind of the thing that is you want to be a good guy or you want to be affiliated with the good guys. And then more and more you're like, there are no good guys.

Right. Who is the good guy?

Who's the good guy? Everyone's Darth Vader. Like, what the.

Yeah, we're Luke Skywalker over here. The Luke Skywalker Party, maybe. That's the one.

Yeah. Right.

Yeah. It's crazy. Everyone's the same. You know, there's. They're all working together.

Pedophiles believe that the. The pedophile is happening all over the place. The Dole Jeffrey Epstein thing and the fact that that is not. It's like, oopsie doopsie.

Well, now his girlfriend is in jail. Like, it's. Can I just say, the fact that a woman is taking the fall is just. If that's not an example of global misogyny, I don't know what is.

Not to say that she's not guilty of something, but we all know Jeffrey Epstein still alive. He's has a new island and a new face, and he's got all the money in the world. And, like, then this girl is gonna rot in prison. Like, I'm like.

Or she's gonna die. I doubt it. I think she's gonna be the scapegoat,

you know, Prince Andrew still out there. You got.

Still out there.

I'm not gonna say his real name because I'll get taken out like everyone else. But Big Willie, he was a president at one point.

Yeah, he.

His name is out there.

His name's definitely out there. And his name has been out there for years. I mean, I heard about this A long time ago.

And I knew girls that were on, like, I had a friend who was almost on one of those planes. Like, I knew girls that were being recruited to be on those planes and to be on like, part of that. Like that. That's not like something like.

Wait, what? No, that was happening and that's been happening and it was part of like young girls in New York. New. Knew about that.

Yeah.

You know, so didn't they get paid? What? The girls. I mean, they're sex slaves, right?

Well, yeah, yeah, they're.

They're. And some of them are forced into it. I mean, they're young.

They're young girls, you know, like, there's no consent when you have a young girl in that circumstance, regardless of whether or not you're paying her, you know.

Oh, no, I'm not bringing it up to. It's. It's an awful, disgusting action either way. First of all. Yeah, I'm just wondering, like, how did they rope them in? Like, what was the big.

Because, well, I think, like, a lot of them are drugged, you know, and like. Yeah, you are. You're drugged a lot.

Like you're given drugs and then you are, you know, it's like there is, I'm sure there is like some financial exchange because you have to keep your mouth shut.

Yeah.

But even if you talked, no one's gonna believe you. I mean, I remember, you know, like there was a.

That's a good point.

So many. And there's also like the MK Ultra mind control where you are just brainwashed into being like a government drone sex slave.

And then of course, there's like the, the, the priests and all. I mean, there's. We could go on a tangent of like. And like, where did all those kids go that were taken from those parents at the border?

Yeah. What happened?

What happened to those kids? They're probably sex trafficked children. You know, it's like everyone's involved in that. Both parties are equally involved. And we're like, oh.

And I just think that should be the deal breaker that I think the whole sex trade thing should be the deal breaker when it comes to like, our political system. And yet it's like, actually not.

You'd think so now it's out there. Like, it's regular and it's, it's disgusting and it's.

It's almost the Jeffrey Epstein almost normalized it. That's what's so messed up.

Was it that or was it because the media kept talking about it and talking about it in these soft ways? Because And I'm not like a big conspiracy guy at all, but I do understand facts and who owns what and Republican, Democrat, Orange Party.

You can call yourself the monster Energy Party if you want. There's so many tentacles. It's like this big octopus. You know, there's only three, these three that own the big media in the United States.

There's only three. If you look at the charts and you know, the, the, the, the, this monstrosity of, of companies that own companies. There's only three.

Yeah, all getting money, they're all getting paid from Democrats and Republicans and, and people that aren't even in politics. And I think personally, it's this media, you know, cycling.

Every two, three weeks we get this new story and we're all big on that and then we just kind of forget because we're on to the next big thing. And it's not always, it's usually never the most positive thing either.

It's always these big, you know, radical things or war or, or murder or, or rape and it's these horrible, horrible things that you really wouldn't want to think about on a daily basis. But yet here we are. But we're not talking about where, you know, a couple weeks ago someone was just cured of leukemia.

You know, where's that news story? I had to, I had to search for that somewhere. Sometimes I have to go to the UK on Daily Mail, you know, not the greatest place, but to get U. S News.

It's, it's almost like we, we are only allowed to, to hear and see certain things that are presented and what's presented is actually, you know, allowed, given permission by us to, to, to learn about, you know, that permission is granted by these, these bigwigs that are paying the news. So I, I just think it's this huge cycle, this huge ladder formation almost that really needs to be looked into more.

And also bring it back to what you said before. You know, you have these companies that are basically, you know, they're, they're funding these politicians.

And not too long ago, you know, companies in special interests. Aren't they now considered people? They're considered like a voter.

Individuals.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all because then you're just opening the floodgates for just constant, like, money, just money being thrown at you from all angles. It's, it, there's no, there's no, there's no recourse. There's no one watching over this.

And it's, it's, it could get sad if we, we don't turn it around. But I think comedians like yourself and talented folks and, you know, you're keeping it light, you're keeping it informative.

We're learning and we're growing and we're having these conversations and, and you're allowing us to have the conversation because you present it in a fun, you know, funny way, light hearted.

It's like, all right, you know, maybe I'll feel more comfortable to leave a comment and say, wow, that sucked, or wow, great, you know, and then that opens, opens up a dialogue and discussion. I, I think that's, that's the best way to learn and grow and evolve. You know what I'm saying?

Yes, absolutely. I couldn't agree more with that.

Right on, right on. Well, we are, we are already at an hour and a half, Tony, I think we should call it. I bet you have things to do. Namaste, my friend.

Thank you so, so much for joining me.

Yes, totally. Thank you for having me.

We have to do it again sometime. Maybe we could do a little series on just. Just things in the world that should change.

Something like that. Should change.

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Oh, I know it's Antonia, but it's such a formal name. I've never been known as that. I've always been a Tony Antonia.

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And you too. Have a great day.

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