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#039 - When Should You Break Free from Societal Labels and Dogma? 🌟💫
Episode 39 • 25th April 2024 • The Ascension Codes • Natalie Paterson
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This episode features Navdeep Pasricha discussing the importance of breaking free from self-imposed limitations to achieve success. Navdeep shares insights on spirituality, intuition, and making God mainstream. He emphasizes the power of love and the need to embrace individual uniqueness to make a positive impact on the world. Join Nat and Navdeep as he delves into multiculturalism, stage booking services, and his mission to redefine the concept of God as grace and love.

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Timestamps

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:01:01 - Introducing Navdeep Pasricha

00:01:39 - Navdeep's Mission and Interpretation of God

00:04:13 - Mentoring Millionaire Speakers

00:04:36 - Divine Reflection in Imperfection

00:06:04 - Skepticism and Spiritual Awakening

00:11:16 - The Power of Love and Unity

00:14:27 - Tony Robbins' Influence and Youth Leadership

00:18:19 - Breaking the Pattern and Helping Others

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There's one creator, there's one God. If we just come back to the love of

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God and the love of our creator and forget everything else, the labels,

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the dogma, the constriction, I feel the world would be a really beautiful place.

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Yes. For me to speak at TEDx, it's one person away. For

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me to speak at Mindvalley, it's one person away. It doesn't have to be so complicated. You

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don't have to cock-block yourself from your own success. The speakers I

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work with, they're three kind of shadows that keep them

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caged in their own prison. The shadow of hierarchy. Thinking that

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I have to get to a certain level for me to speak at TEDx. And it's because we're pitting

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ourselves against people. So the second one, really quickly, is...

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Calling in all entrepreneurs, lightworkers, starseeds who

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are here ready to make impact, more money on this earth and

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shift to the fifth dimension. Are you ready to ascend? So

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guys, today's going to be full of LOLs. Today's going

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to be filled with so much humor, silliness, and

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also some fucking deep diving into some

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spirituality and into the insides of who Love Deep

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is. For those people that don't know you, Navdeep,

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Hi, I'm Navdeep Pasricha and usually I

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Yeah. And so in a nutshell, I've been, this is my 11th year speaking. Wow.

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And now I help people get stages across three continents. I

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And it's cool. You know, my big mission is to make intuition and

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God mainstream. A lot of people have a different meanings for

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the word God. For me, the G stands for grace, which

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means loving. The O stands for

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Omni, meaning everywhere. And the D stands for divine, meaning

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it's magic. And I truly feel that when we can be connected to

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something bigger, it's like, it's

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like we get to tap into a mine of gold and allow our story to unfold.

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And it's like all the old things that we were told, we can put to the wayside and

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step into a version of ourself that is more beautiful, more blissed, more

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Everyone, a round of applause, please. A round of applause. So

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beautiful, babe. Thank you so much. You're welcome. And so today

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I want to ask you a few questions so that people can really

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get to know who you are. So tell us

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about your ascension journey, your spiritual essence, how

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Thank you so much for asking. And you know, it's so interesting that I

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was praying to God before this interview, and it's

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really interesting. When you asked the question, it had a past tense

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to it. Tell us about your journey, your Ascension journey.

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And something I've gotten to realize is this journey

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really has a present tense to it. And then this

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is something we've talked about lots. It's, it's, it's an ever evolving journey.

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And so. Like, I

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feel like I'm going through a transition right now. You know, we

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unfortunately lost somebody close to both of us, somebody we know, uh, recently.

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And I've had people from all different seasons of my life pop up

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into my reality in the last 48 hours. And so this conversation could

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not be more timely. Because sometimes when I think of my relationship with

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God Nat, like if I think about some of the prophets of the world, like, uh,

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Guru Nanak, Jesus, Krishna, uh, Prophet

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Muhammad, all these other people and prophets, I

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really sometimes wish that we got to know who

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they were in their imperfection. I

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wish we got to know who they were when they were battled with

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doubt, when they were battled with hardship. You know what I mean? Like

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you and me, something I fucking love about our friendship is that,

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you know, you've been there like before I'm

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about to do something for the first time and you can feel my jitterness. I

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remember coming to some of your events and I remember Nelson was there. I remember we

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went into like a side room like, holy shit, man, this is a whole new edge.

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I've had the pleasure now of mentoring six speakers who are millionaires, and

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I've seen almost every one of them cry. And why I'm sharing

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this is because I truly believe that one of the reasons God put me on earth, apart

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from, you know, experiencing humanity, being in a beautiful marriage, having

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a family, these kinds of things, meeting my parents, is

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to help people really find the divine

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reflection in their imperfection. The divine reflection

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in their imperfection. And it's so interesting, when I went

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to school in Malaysia, I went to a school where we did yoga in

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the morning, where we did kirtan, where we chanted. And

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somehow, I still managed to get suspended for

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fighting. Yeah, I had no idea that, you

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know, God

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gave me a gift called Asperger's autism. I had no fucking idea.

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And it wasn't until a relationship breakdown like four years ago that

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this started coming online to me, that I wasn't broken. I was blessed.

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It didn't seem like that at first. And you know, having Asperger's, you're

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quite sensitive. And it's so

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interesting. What I used to do is I used to help speakers who were already doing a million dollars

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help to scale to five million, okay? And scale their impact. And

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one of my speakers, you know him, he speaks on like the

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quantum and chakras and spirituality. And

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at that point, I thought it was all a bunch of bullshit. I

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I don't think I knew that about you. Really? No, I thought you've always been into

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Wow. Really? Wow. Really? Up

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2021. Wow. Yeah. Um,

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cuz listen, I I went to Gurdwara or Sikh temple every Sunday and I pray Yeah,

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but if I went somewhere like bar in a way, I just didn't understand what they were saying, right? But

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anyway, it's fucking white people. What are they doing? Yeah Yeah,

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you can tell how much anger

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I had in me at that time, huh, hmm, I didn't know how to process

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it So yeah,

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it was interesting. I wanted to go along to his event to build rapport with

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my client. And I found out that my parents

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were attending as well. And that's when my body really

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started to come online. It was the first time I had gotten a

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tickle of my Claire sentience. Fast forward, I

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found out I was psychic. And yeah, it's

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really beautiful. Like I had this belief that God gives us miracles

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through people. You know, like how we met. You know, uh,

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we've worked together professionally before, but not everybody who we work with professionally

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become such best friends, you know? And I believe there's a reason that God brought us into each other's lives.

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And so to answer your question, um, I really, I always

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believed in God. And I had always had a relationship with God, like

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Out of the womb. God, I pray. How

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old was it when you actually started to create the relationship?

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Thank you for asking. So

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in my childhood, I was always connected, but

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it wasn't in a spiritual sense, it was in a

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cultural sense. So we would go to temple, my

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parents would go in the prayer hall, I would go in a separate room, and

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I would come out with my clothes ripped up, Because for three hours,

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me and the other boys would just wrestle. So

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I loved religion. I loved God. I loved it all. You

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know, and where I grew up in Malaysia, God and the

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universe are very similar. Right. It's not. Yeah.

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So I was very surprised when I came in, but to answer your question, I was atheist for

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a couple of years when my grandmother passed away. I saw

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my mother just like have a heart teared open and I was like, come on, there

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can't be a God. But then I went to, you've heard

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of the word sad song? Yeah! I went to like a

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five-day camp for Kirtan, Sikhism, and Sadsang, and

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I just felt something. And that's why I was like, ooh, there's something

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bigger. But I didn't know

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that God could be such a co-creator until about three years

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ago. And then I went down the rabbit hole, developing

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my psychic abilities. It was so funny, you know, my mom,

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Does she? Hi mum! Hi

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Yeah, in a very endearing way. Of course. And I think something I learned from

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you is, you know, the more we lean into our weirdness, the

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I love that. Thank you so much. And so I wanted us just

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to touch on Sikhism. You mentioned that a few times, and

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obviously I, as your best friend, know what it is. And for those of you who are listening that

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may not know what it is or what that means, can you explain a

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I love you. Yeah,

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so Sikhism is a religion that came out of India. And

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it's really interesting. When it was birthed, it was a way of life, not

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a religion. So you would have Hindu Sikhs. You'd have Muslim Sikhs. There

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are even stories about Christian Sikhs. Controversial. Yes.

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And so it was a multi-faith thing, which is

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pretty cool, right? Uh, and we believe that three pillars to

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enlightenment, the first being, uh, Simran,

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which means meditation. Wow. My sister's name also. The

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second, so Simran, then second is Seva, which means service. So,

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you know, to be of service, to, to serve. Um,

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so when the floods happened, like my temple, uh, prepared 15,000 meals. Wow.

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It's wild. It's so beautiful. Right.

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And mom was in, was part of that and dad too. And, um, and

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then the last one is Sangat, which means congregation. And

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so we believe Simran, Seva and Sangat. And something that's

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really interesting that is that in our Holy scripture, it's like over a thousand pages.

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We have authors from many faiths. Uh, but the

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first line ever says Ek Onkar. Ek

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Onkar. And what this means is that there's one

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creator, there's one God. And so I've had the pleasure of

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praying in a church. I have the pleasure of

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praying in a synagogue, in a masjid or a mosque, in

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Byron Bay, at a circle in Guatemala, at

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a Sikh temple, at a Hindu mandir, you

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know, at a, remember you ran a Lion's Gate event when

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I was in Africa online. I've

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had the pleasure of connecting with my creator in a

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variety of settings. And it's truly something I feel like I'm put here to spread into

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the world, which is that, you know,

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if we just come back to the love of God and the love of our creator and

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forget everything else, the labels, the dogma, the constriction, I

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Mmm, I love that so much. And I resonate so deeply with that. You

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know, if the world all started to really, truly

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embody the love frequency, and everyone just that you

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came into contact with was just like, love, love, love, love, spreading love.

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Imagine the vibration. Imagine the downloads, the epiphanies, the

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It's crazy. I remember sometimes, once you challenged me, and I really

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remember it. What did I say? What did you say? Wait, wait, wait.

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We were hanging out at your place just before

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you moved out of it. We were hanging out on the couch. I think we

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It's like a thing that we do. It's a thing, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I

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was like, Nat, how do you believe in aliens? And

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you were like, Navdeep, I'll never forget what you said. You said Navdeep. If

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you can believe in God, surely you

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can believe in aliens. I

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don't remember. Yes. Because you know, God might not be something that we can physically see,

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but it's a felt sense. It's something that's extraterrestrial. And

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so, uh, I don't think I'm so far

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on my journey as you are in regards to my relationship with aliens. But I remember you

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saying that I was like, shit, man. And why am I saying this? It's because sometimes

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when I speak to people of different faiths, they can be like, how can you believe

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that? How can you believe that? Where's the proof? Where's the evidence? But

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if we boil back down to all of it, it's all a felt sense.

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Yes. Every religion will tell you that there's tangible data and

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proof, but it's all from a place of confirmation bias.

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And it all comes down to their belief, right? And whatever you choose to believe

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is whatever... then you see, you feel,

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you hear, and then it's what comes into contact with you because it's the

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vibration of it, right? Yeah. So awesome. Thank

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you. My pleasure. I forgot that I said that. Yeah, it's stuck with me ever since.

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Wow. I love that. You're a coach that is wanting to hit 10k

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my next question to you, Navdeep, is In

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regards to your speaking career, you mentioned that it

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was 11 years ago when you first started. So tell people

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a little bit about your journey of when you first started to become

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a speaker to the man that you are today, helping other leaders get

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Sure. Thank you for that question. So

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I'm tuning into what will be most relevant and useful. Otherwise we'll be here

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for 11 years when I tell the story, you know? Uh, so it

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all started out, you know, um, I'm sure you heard of somebody called Tony Robbins.

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Oh, Tony. Yeah. You know,

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I had the pleasure of meeting him, uh, six months ago and having

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a conversation and I got to thank him because 11 years

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ago, um, my family sent me

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to like this youth leadership camp, youth leadership, which.

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Had a silent bracket. Send your kids here if they're going through a fucking hard time.

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What? I was one of those kids. Of course. I

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was 16. I didn't know I had Asperger's. I

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had a past of like self-harm and like I

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did not socialize with people. So one of the things of having Asperger's is,

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you know, people with a normal brain are born with a certain amount of apps.

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And I was born without some of those apps and with different apps. And

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some of the apps I was born without was how to socialize, how

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to make friends. And so I, can you imagine being so isolated that

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you feel like you have to cut yourself to escape? It's fucking hectic.

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And I remember I went to this Tony Robbins seminar and

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I saw him do an intervention. An intervention, for

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those of y'all who are not sure, is when, you know, he'll pick somebody from the crowd and

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help them overcome something very deep in front of 5,000 people.

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I thought it was magic. Yeah. You know, my level two came, the

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magic, the triumphs, oh my gosh. And

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I just became obsessed. And so I kept going back

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to these camps. As an alumni and

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people would come talk to me like gang members, rape victims, people

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going through a hard time. And remember I said I was born

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without apps. And so one of the apps I was

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born without was how to communicate compassionately.

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So I would feel compassion and I would feel empathy, but I would

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not necessarily communicate it in the traditional way. And

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so somebody would be like, yo, my life feels so fucking shit. And

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I would say. Is it like diarrhea or hard shit?

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Okay. And that pattern would break completely. And so like

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these people with really traumatic pasts would come to me and I

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just like. Not talk down to them, not talk up to them, just be level

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with them, you know, and break that pattern and help them come up

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So cool. Uh, and. Yeah,

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and I was like, how do I do this in groups? How do I do this on

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stage? And so on and so forth. And yeah, it

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was really interesting because I've

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been speaking for 11 years, but for the first six years, I didn't

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back myself to the stage, but I did it full time. So I did things on

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the side. I did things on the side. I was a guitar teacher. I

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sold software. I was in marketing. And

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all these crazy things, right? Because so many times when people are in a point of

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transition, at least what I've learned, is we have this thing called embedded

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hierarchy. Embedded hierarchy. And when I was born

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that, I was not born with the app of hierarchy. Right.

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And so I didn't understand that speaking on

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TEDx was this impossible thing. Right. It

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didn't occur to me. Like, I was the guy who, you

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know, I'll be frank, I remember going

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to an event, the second event I ever went to after Tony Robbins, Tony set

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up High Bar, and the second event I ever went to, it

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was just a pitch fest. And I was 17, and

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there were 3,000 people. And I went up to the speaker in the lunchtime. I

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said, bro, you really wasted our time. Well.

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Wow. You were just honest with them a lot. Yeah, because I

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had no idea about hierarchy. Right. I had no idea about social

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norms. And so I did my TEDx talk when I was 19. I know,

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so amazing. Thank you. And so why am I sharing this? It's because something

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I've realized in the speakers I work with is that

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there are three kind of shadows

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that keep them caged in their own prison. You

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think I could share those? Great, go for it. Yeah. So the first one is

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the shadow of hierarchy, thinking that I have to

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get to a certain level for me to speak at TEDx. I have to get a certain level

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for me to speak at the United Nations, right? And it's because

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we're pitting ourselves against people. I

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Because when I joined the coaching industry, I only joined in 2020 because up to

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that, I was a speaker. I'd go and tour, speak conferences.

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In 2017, before I knew what coaching really was, I spoke

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in person every three to four days. Wow. Wild, eh? And

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then I joined the coaching industry and people are like, oh, they're a six figure

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They're a seven figure coach. Right. That's sort of fully labeling the

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I was like, what? This person coached this person, that person coached that person. I

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was like, what the fuck is this? But I bought into it. Right. You know,

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And then I pitted myself. Oh my gosh. But I haven't hit this milestone. I haven't bought

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that thing. And I would pit myself. And,

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and I find so many emerging speakers do this. Typically

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the person who works in me already has a foundation of success. So,

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uh, you know, a client, Ash, she did her TEDx talk

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yesterday, which is so exciting. She

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already had, she was already the national sales manager at L'Oreal. So

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a foundation of success. If you think of when we connected, you already had a

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sensational history in sales. Remember? The

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Right. And so it's so interesting when people come to me, they typically have

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a foundation of success. But when they're making a transition into their

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bigger game, into their bigger purpose, they somehow put

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themselves in a hierarchy. And I never understood this.

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So there are three main shadows that many speakers face. And that's

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Yeah, right. So just really quickly then, what

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Open loop. Uh, so the second one really quickly is

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the second one would have to do with imperfection. Uh, so

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people feel like they need to be perfect before they are on the world's biggest stages. But

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like, I, you know, you were so sweet before our conversation today,

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if everybody listening at home, Nat, she could feel my energy cause we're besties. And

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she said, Navdeep, are you okay? That's what I'm reflective. She said, are you okay?

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And the fact is this morning I was not okay. The last time I cried was last night.

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And does part of me feel like a fraud? Yes. But part of me also

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wishes that I knew the bad days of

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our prophets. I knew the bad days of our spiritual leaders. Make

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So you want to bring those to light. You want to be normal.

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You want to be honest. You want to be open. I love sharing that on my Instagram

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too. I love being like, fuck. This is actually going on for me guys. This is actually

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what's coming up for me right now. Cause I actually truly see so

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many leaders not embody that crazy. Yeah. They only

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see, they only, they only show people the snippets of what's really

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going on going well for them. It's crazy, which is great because we do

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want to motivate people there. However, what if it's the opposite side

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Nice. So, you know, something I'm doing in right now is I'm calling

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And if anybody's interested, he is single and he's incredible. And

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Thank you so much. You know, you have a similar cultural background, similar

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age. I'm 27 years old. You're interpersonal development and spiritual growth.

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Hit me up. He's the man. Thank you. And God, you

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know, we were listening to... I was listening to a podcast yesterday and it was saying

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Oh my god, okay, this is exactly what I'm moving through at the moment. Like,

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being in this new house, so guys, for those of you who don't know, I've moved

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into my new house, and NuvDeep asked me before, how's the

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new house? And I said to him, it's spacious, didn't I? I

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literally said, it's spacious. Yeah, babe. Because

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what I'm noticing is, I feel like the reason the universe has

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actually taken me down to New South Wales, where there's no one,

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I don't know no one, I'm on a five acre property, literally my

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ceiling is so big, my super king bed is

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so fucking big, NuvDeep. I feel so much spaciousness.

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My bathroom is two or three times the size of this room

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that we're in right now. It is so fucking big. And even when

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I look outside when I'm taking a shit, literally, there is so

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much space. And I feel spacious. And

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I know that my man will come in so easily because

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I've got the spaciousness. And actually, the download dropped in yesterday when

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I was like, I've got so much spaciousness. Ah, my man will come in soon. That's

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Yeah. And so there's physical space, there's time

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space, there's energetic space. And so, uh,

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you know, right now that things are energetically being

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Which is a process in itself, you know? Yeah, totally. And, and, and

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fuck yo, somebody we both know passed away, like very

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recently, like very, very recently. And it's really got me

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thinking like where the areas in my life where I

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have this saying, which is one day, no way. One

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day, no way. So many people come to me, Nat, and they say, I want to do a

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TEDx talk. I want to speak across the world. I want to have

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a book published by Hay House. I want to do all these things. And it's like a one

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day thing. And so something I adopted moons ago

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Yeah. And this passing, this death has really made me think, where

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Yes. Thank you.

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And what's the third thing? So the first thing is...

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Hierarchy. Hierarchy. The second thing is imperfection. So what's the third

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This one is so fucking exciting. Okay. Literally. So

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when we think of the word social media, social media, I

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have no shame in saying that when it comes to media, you are

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like a master. Thank

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I truly mean it. If you guys want to learn social media, she's the lady to go to. Thank

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Exactly. And, uh, the shadow that people, speakers

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is they don't give enough attention to the word social. Yes. Cause

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my whole thing was for me to speak at TEDx, it's

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one person away. For me to speak at Mindvalley, it's one person away.

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TEDx, United Nations, Mindvalley, I got none of them from applying. They were all

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referrals. Right? And so it doesn't have

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to be so complicated. You don't have to cock-block yourself from your own success. It's

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all about how do you build relationships with the right people where it's truly win-win. And

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so people think that they have to win 10 years to speak on

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So beautiful. See guys, this is the power of the network,

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the people that you know, literally. I

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So I spent the last decade of my life mastering the social part. Regardless

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Babes, are you wanting to fucking build an empire and be an embodied millionaire?

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Okay, I've got you. The Oracle is a 12-month mastermind full

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of women that are already peaking at 15, 20, 30k months

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and are wanting to fully embody the codes of the

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millionaire. This 12-month mastermind is nothing like I've ever done before. There is

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fucking empires, that are fully pioneering movements. If

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this is speaking to your soul, and you know you want to be called forward into a

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higher realm of intuition, of dedication, and full

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devotion to your mission, the link will be down below. One

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thing I know that you're so deeply passionate about, one

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thing that I know is your gift on this earth, is

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to help really build people into allowing

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them to see and tap into their intuition. And so, would

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you be open right now on the podcast to actually pray

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for some people, or for everyone actually, to be able to

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channel right now on this podcast? Would

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you be open to that? Let's do

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Let's do it. Cause you're so right, Nat. Like, you know, I

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primarily, I do a done for you service where people

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get, I book people on stages across three continents and get them

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on TEDx in person, but there's still that inner game that

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is so important. You know, I wish people could see them in

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the light in which God or your creator birthed you. So

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Yes. I would love that. Let's just make sure this. So everyone

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listening, do you want everyone to close your eyes, take a deep breath in? Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah.

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Audio's great. Close

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your eyes, put your feet on the ground, slap on your belly, take

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Last one, letting out an audible sigh. I'm

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going to use the word God, but I trust you'll use the word that resonates most with you. Dear

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God, thank you so much for bringing us into this space today,

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allowing us to lace our way into your Dharma.

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Allowing ourselves to put across our past impairments,

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our past shame, and step into a bigger game.

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Allowing us no longer to stay the same, to replace the side of us that is

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tame with a side of us that is wild, that is bold.

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Allowing us to cut away fast in the past, the other

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stories, and tap into your stories, which you were meant

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for our heart to beam, for our heart to be told. God,

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I understand that in each and every one of us there is a mind of

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gold. Sometimes we just have to unfold. And

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remember that our soul is not young. It is very, very old. God,

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I ask that you give us the courage and the white light down the center of

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our spine. Allow us to draw a line in the sand. Allow

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us to walk hand in hand with you. Allow

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us to walk, step into our courage. Allow us

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to redeem our dreams. Allow

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us to step into a sense of refreshed courage to reappear

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to the world anew. Allow

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us to feel the succulent honeydew on our lips. to

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feel the strength of your voice on our tongue to

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know that growth can be scary there will be times that

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will be hairy but ultimately you put us here to have

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fun that we are your sons

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that we are your daughters we are everything in between know that we are

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not separate God that we are part of the same team allow our

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lights to beam and even when it seems tough even when it seems

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scary even when it seems like the world is dredging

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and dreary allow us to have faith Allow

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us to have faith in our heart that you are there helping it beat.

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Allow us to know that every single person we walk and we cross paths on

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the street are people who we were

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destined to meet. God, I ask that even

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in our times of sorrow, you ask us to remember they

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cannot be a sweet without sour. They cannot be powerless

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without being in our power. They must be a

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strong foundation to be laid for us to build our tower in

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your name. Allow

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us to spread our message and our voice so the whole world

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can rejoice that today was the day that you lent in. You

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opened up and you made a new choice.

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Thank you so much. I

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love you with my whole heart and soul. Thank

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you. I'm receiving this and I hope you beautiful people at

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home are fully receiving this too. Nubdeep, it

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has been an absolute pleasure today to have a chat, to

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get to know you a little deeper, for my audience to get

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to know you a little deeper. Thank you for coming in. And

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for those of you who want to learn more about you, where would they find you?

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Yeah, great question. And, uh, oh, that was an autopilot response.

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I'm just so happy. I

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love you so much Natalie Paterson. I love you so much. Our grandkids are

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going to play together. I know. And they're going to put on accents. Uh,

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yes. So you can find me on Instagram, either type in

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Navdeep, N A V D double E P, N

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movement leaders. And if you send me the word

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Nat, if you DM me the word Nat, I have a very spicy surprise

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