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Episode 9930th May 2023 • CarbonSessions • The Carbon Almanac Podcast Network
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Episode Summary:  This episode is an excerpt from a past episode on Urban Heat Islands

In this episode, Inma and Leekei discussed how cities are becoming increasingly hotter and what we can do to cope with it

Like most cities in the world Paris, Aberdeen and Seville are witnessing increasing temperatures in the summer months. During this conversation, Leekei and Inma talked about the initiatives that are implemented by the municipalities of the cities they live/have lived in as well as personal initiatives to cope with scorching high temperatures.

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Featuring Carbon Almanac Contributors Leekei Tang and Inma Lopez

Leekei is a fashion business founder, a business coach, an international development expert and a podcaster from Paris, France.

Imma is from Cádiz in the South of Spain, living in Aberdeen, Scotland. Imma is a sommelier, a poet, a podcaster, a mother, a slow food advocate, and an animist activist.

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The CarbonSessions Podcast is produced and edited by Leekei Tang, Steve Heatherington and Rob Slater.

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Urban Heat Islands - Leekei adj rx: One way to cope with it, , is

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to have air conditioning.

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And luckily we don't have too much of air conditioning, in Paris yet.

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yet, but , I have some friends who thought to have air conditioning

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in Paris, but it's not that common.

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And the problem with air conditioning is that it's great when you are

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inside your home because the air is cold, but outside it's.

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It makes

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Yeah, it makes worse.

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it make it worse because, um, because it's

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adding, , temperature on the outside because it breathes out , hot air.

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And also this couple with, you know, with the fact that a city is built,

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it's built, , on asphalt and, the RevB makes the air even warmer than it's.

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It's temperature.

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So it's, it has become really, really difficult.

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Yeah.

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here in Aberdeen, in Scotland When it's hot, like 26 degrees,

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25 degrees here is really hot.

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Believe me, my, my sister lives at the south of Spain.

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We have hot temperature temperature there, and she was here visiting,

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uh, last summer and, and, and she, she couldn't cope with 26 degrees.

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So there is a difference, I guess, the, the difference of latitude, um,

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Urban Heat Islands - Leekei adj rx: And also the way the city is built,

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Because in a Spain for example, severe gets to 40

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easy, easy in August 48 degrees,

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Urban Heat Islands - Leekei adj rx: really?

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Wow.

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Um, but it is, is now is becoming really extreme.

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Uh, but , that area in Spain has been.

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Since I, since I remember forever, but now it has become really, really extreme

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Urban Heat Islands - Leekei adj rx: How are the cities built for

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this kind of temperature?

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Urban Heat Islands - Inma adj rx: That's the thing that, the thing is,

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uh, the city, the city center, which is, , very problematic because of the

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asphalt, um, was built for the heat.

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So the walls of the buildings are really, really wide.

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and the windows are, , in the direction of the wind when there is wind, um, , the

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streets are narrow like in Morocco.

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So streets are narrow, so the sun cannot get down and, and , the

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lifestyle also is quite major lifestyle.

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And there is at the middle of the day, there is this.

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Naps and, and CSTA.

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So people is not out in the street in a midday because it's, it's impossible.

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48 degrees is, is really, you cannot breathe.

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Yeah.

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And so this is how the city has been built, but now that it's getting

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warmer, hotter, what, what's the,

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what's

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and the city is growing on the outside and

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those buildings are not prepared for that.

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So what people do is a conditioner and that makes things, as we said

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before, that makes things even worse.

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Urban Heat Islands - Leekei adj rx: Yes, because of, uh, it's not only

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that uses a lot of energy and, but also because it's released hot air.

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Urban Heat Islands - Inma adj rx: Exactly to the, to the streets.

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So it's getting warmer and warmer and warmer

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Urban Heat Islands - Leekei adj rx: so what is the city doing about that?

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Urban Heat Islands - Inma adj rx: parks, parks, trees, vegetation ties,

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uh, and, and this in the city and the, they have built this mushroom, right.

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And, and with, uh, vines and, and Ivy.

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At the top, like interlacing.

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So it gets shade to

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to many streets and the temperature goes down.

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And then thing about most , of the business in city center closed halfway.

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, in the middle of the day they are closed because they can't, uh, be

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open because there is no people.

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, so they open in the morning, they're open \ in the evening, but not in the, in the

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middle of, so the way of life , is built.

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also to cope with the heat.

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