Dive into the success story of Shaffer Beacon Mechanical and their implementation of Simpro. Join us as we explore their growth, overcoming challenges and their commitment to community involvement and trade education. 

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This is Trades, Tools.

Talks a podcast powered by Simpro – I'm Karlie Huckels.

Thanks for episode we're talking to Shaffer Beacon Mechanical they are

Simpro users who are really active in their community and trade education

Let's dig in.

Hey David, how are you?

Hey, good.

Hey

Karlie.

How are you?

I'm doing awesome.

I love that big wall that you have guys have there.

That's fun.

Yeah.

Isn't that cool?

Yeah.

That's his new, that's his new office.

Isn't it?

Nice?

It's beautiful.

You got the orange?

Orange is like a, what?

Is that?

An energizing color.

You guys have a good orange in your logo.

Nice.

Yeah.

Well I'm so glad that you guys are able to pop on and talk today.

I would love to just jump in and we'll start with you, David,

yeah, so, we are Shaffer Beacon Mechanical.

My name's David Hrdlicka.

My role is president of the company.

We do full mechanical services, so that means heating, cooling and plumbing.

And we do that for residential customers as well as commercial customers.

Roughly half and half.

And it spans the spectrum of service and installation work.

So we do all of the above,

my name's Brent Davenport.

I'm the vice president

In essence, the roles are, you know, Brent is responsible

really for virtually everything that's going on in the field.

And then I'm responsible on the business side responsible for all

the things going on in the business.

Perfect.

You guys, you are the two halves that make a whole.

Yeah, basically.

So what is your employee count now and where are you located?

We are located in two locations Bristol, Connecticut,

and Granby, Connecticut.

And our employee, total employees, I think are right now

is around 50 50.

Where was it when you first started with Simpro?

We were at around 12.

12.

And you've grown how much and how much time?

That was 2017.

2017.

That's not a long time for that much

growth.

Yeah.

It was that growth was primarily fueled by an acquisition that

we did.

Okay.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Congratulations.

Yeah.

And Simpro was a big part of that.

We'd already implemented Simpro before the acquisition.

But our ability to integrate quickly with the acquisition was fueled by Simpro.

That's awesome.

Get everybody on the same page at the same time.

Yeah, I mean, it's it definitely took some doing, but it would've

been a lot longer if we didn't already have Simpro working for us.

So, you know, the ability to bring data into Simpro is very, it's very easy.

To do that.

The hard part is the, is just the change to, for people to, to adapt to.

That's the harder part really.

The easier part is the technology.

I mean, I feel like adoption technology adoption, no matter what

field you're in, it's if you're trying to learn something new, there's always

gonna be people who don't wanna do it.

Cuz there's ways that you've always done it and yeah.

Yeah, picking that up is always difficult.

Like right now with the AI evolution that's happening too with a lot of

different things I'm seeing across the board, whether it's, you know, I'm

in marketing, I was broadcast for a really long time, I did public radio.

For the majority of my career, now I'm in Simpro.

And even there, like from those transitions and seeing my uncles with

their trade businesses, all the things that they've gone through in the

last like five to 10 years, it's been huge jumps in different industries.

It's crazy, but you always have the people who are gonna have a little

bit of a harder time adapting it.

And that's just the way it goes, right?

Yeah.

When we first got started And then when we very first, the

very first implementation of Simpro when we went from analog to digital.

We had, our average age in the company was probably 63 or

something like that, and most of the guys were carrying flip phones.

So yeah, they were working with paperwork orders and flip phones.

So, that transformation was quite something.

I bought the company in 2016.

And like I said when I first stepped in the door, it was it was almost like you

were stepping back in time, 130 years because yeah, it was all paper based.

There was nothing digital about it.

They did have a system that was, you know, a blue screen DOS based system

that printed out on a dot matrix printer.

All the work orders and, you know, there were triplicates, the one that went,

it printed out on the, you know, paper.

There was a copy that had to stay in the shop.

And, you know, everybody recorded their time on a timecard and the billable

time went on the work order, and then we'd have to reconcile all of that.

It was really time consuming and archaic.

Literally like being back in the Flintstones.

And then when we after we got Simpro up and running, it was like,

Making the leap to being the, you know, in the part of the Jetsons.

Yeah, there you go.

It was a, it was that scale of a transformation.

And I think for the most part it was pretty well embraced, but I like to

think about it as, you know, we're.

In the spectrum of education.

You know, we started out in grade school and we've we're, we've

finished high school at this point.

You know, it's been long enough now that we've are using enough of Simpro to

sort of be in, at the collegiate level.

And hopefully, you know, in the next 12 to 24 months we'll be close to graduating.

There you go.

You have your high school diploma and you're in college.

Yeah.

That's exactly what we've done.

You know, and so with the acquisition, it really kind of forced our hand

to step up our game and finished high school and get onto Using

particularly the material side of it.

Which we're deep in the weeds of now and getting that to the point where

it's gonna start working for us more.

So, yeah, it's, it, the, one of the nice things about is you can kind of

bite off as much as you want to chew.

Absolutely.

So where are you guys at now with the amount of our tech that you use?

What products are you in the most?

Enterprise, of course, for the office.

And then the Simpro Mobile Okay.

Is those are the really the backbone of what we

do.

Cool.

I do have to say it too cuz I'm marketing, we are changing the

name of enterprise that it's gonna be more known as premium now.

So, Simpro mobile, how, what's your experience with Simpro Mobile?

Initially, we were Simpro Connect and then that evolved in mobile and

Syncro Mobile now has the ability to have different levels of permissions.

So that you can grant different levels of user rights to the field,

It's a key part of the equation because.

We take the, you know, the data, obviously we're taking payment on all

of our service calls for residential customers directly through the app.

With oh, and the third party app that we use there is Square.

And that, that works really well.

But so then the other side of that is for payroll.

So all the time that's recorded for any technician is we extract out data

and use that to, to run our payroll.

Perfect.

Perfect.

Okay, so a couple other Simpro questions before I want to ask you about what

you guys do with your community.

So, It's been a while since implementation.

You guys have already talked about the, you know, you're in your

college years of Simpro usage.

Can you, do you have any metrics that you can share?

Of how Simpro has changed your business?

Do you have any numbers?

I can't give you a before and after because we didn't really have a baseline

to work with, but I generally, I, at a macro level we're looking at every, we

measure our business based on our net income, and we, so the short answer to

your question is that's the KPI for us is our net income and the reason that

Simpro has transformed this company.

Is because it enables us to measure net income at the job level.

And so it, it enables us to be more competitive that way.

Because if we want to, if we want to let's just say measure anybody any

particular job, we're all focused on the same metric and that really helps us.

Keep that focus.

Of course, anybody can say that and, but actually implementing

that are two different things.

And so, if I were, if at a macro level I can look at, you know, where we are now

versus where we were when we bought the company and our ability to manage our

profitability Is just orders of magnitude different than it was then because when

we quote a job, we can have a pretty good idea how we're gonna shake out.

And so it, it does change the game for us dramatically.

Awesome.

I love to hear it.

So you've already answered the majority of my questions.

I don't even need to ask them.

You're prepared.

Do you have any pearls of wisdom for people going through

implementation right now?

Yeah.

I mean, I would say the the biggest learning for me was you know,

I went into it thinking that we could take all the historical data.

Or one thing I should say, our my, my desire was to make sure we were

able to bring over historical data from our legacy system into Simpro.

And I guess the wisdom I learned was that we really didn't need it because we could

retain access to our legacy system and get some historical data well, we could

get all the historical data we needed.

As we needed it, rather than, you know, the luxury would be actually to have that.

But it's, it really is a luxury cuz it's not worth the trouble.

If you had asked me before we implemented would it be worth the trouble?

I would say of course it would be because we need that information,

but the reality is we didn't need nearly as much historical information

as I thought we would need.

And it took.

You know, probably the small amount of historical information that we did need

was probably we, after 12 months, we were able to draw out what we did need.

It was not, like I said, it was not a huge amount of historical information.

The information that was really needed from legacy systems were things like,

you know, just basic customer info, customer name, address, phone number.

Supplier name, address, phone number email address is vital.

If you have 'em, you gotta be able to bring that over.

So those are the basic things that you need to get started.

You know, employee information is important, but it's not as, that.

It's not as, Big of a database.

So, so that's not required, you know, it's something that

can be created within Simpro.

So really all you need is a customer database and you're off to the races.

And then you can create jobs and dispatch jobs and get rolling

and just getting off the ground.

Getting a foothold was, is the biggest step.

And then as you need historical information, you can always go get it.

Or invest a little bit of time to, to you know, like for us, an example of

that would be when we go out to do a preventive maintenance and we need to

know filter size or, you know, what size nozzle they have on a boiler.

Yes, it ideally you have that when you roll out.

It's not the end of the world if you don't, and that's the kinda

information you can get, you know, as you need it from your.

Your legacy system directly.

So, that's the kind of, you know, stuff that you, if you have it, you

can bring it in, of course, if you can get it out of your legacy system.

So, for us, we couldn't get it out of our legacy system

to, in an importable fashion.

But if you can, then of course you can import in into Simpro.

So, but that would be my nuggets of learning on the

data side, on the people side.

You know, like I said that's probably where the more challenging aspect is that

most people I probably underestimated.

I'm gonna see, I guess I'm.

Projecting my own weakness on others.

But that is the thing that you definitely don't wanna underestimate in

any kind of implementation like this.

The the need for people to be bought in to the change, no matter what level

they're at, that you really need people to be on board with the need for change.

And once, once you have that, Recognition that things need to

change, then, you know, the adaptation to the change is a lot easier.

Absolutely.

Brent, do you have anything to add to that?

Cuz he was saying before you hopped on that he's the one who breaks Simpro

and you're the one who's the expert

That's pretty close to, to you.

Accurate.

That's

very close to accurate.

Yeah I think the only thing that I wanted to add is from my point of

view is from somebody that was out in the field for most of my career.

And I was all paper based to come in and see what David has already done.

You know, with Shaffer cause I came in later than he did.

And to see everything that was implemented and to learn the new

system, it's pretty cool, you know, to go from creating a customer to

looking at a job, to creating a quote.

Going from the quote to, you know, the job and then scheduling the

guys and then seeing the lifetime.

You know, there's a lot of times our guys will call me and say,

Hey, can you look at the pictures?

And we're quoting jobs without me even going to look at it.

I was working on one this morning.

So to have that real-time is, it's really awesome.

I think it, you know, gives us the step ahead of a lot of our competitors.

They use other programs.

I've looked into it when I had my own company.

Never really did anything.

And I just think kudos to David and I'm not saying that just

cuz he is my business partner.

I'm saying it cuz I mean it is that kudos to him cuz he is a, he's a one

smart guy and I learn a lot from him, so.

I'll give you that $5 bill later.

Oh dude, that was like worth 50, not five.

Okay.

It's really cool to hear the experience of people in the field

because like Simpro mobile, it seems changes businesses game entirely.

It is it's been a game changer for us.

You know, it's it.

Enables us to move so much quicker.

And as a result we can scale and have scaled quite dramatically.

So it's, it, it really is a great tool for us.

It's, you know, it's the backbone of our business, so it's it's a great tool.

What would each of you say your favorite feature is in Simpro?

If you had to pick one?

I'll go first.

So my, I would say it's the flexibility.

There's not just one way to get to the same end result.

That's one form of flexibility.

Another form is we have a membership program, so we have

a club that our customers join.

And with that come a lot of different benefits and there are a lot of different

variations of that membership, depending on the equipment that our customers have.

And so that isn't something necessarily that Simpro has.

Designed into their system into your system.

But the system's flexible enough to accommodate that

for us, which is kind of cool.

So that's really awesome.

The fact that we can have one customer with hundreds of sites and

another customer throwing one site.

And it, the system works equally well for us.

We can have, you know, quotes that are a few thousand dollars and quotes

that are over a million dollars.

Those, the system can handle, you know, equally as well.

And the, and then to manage those jobs efficiently.

In both sizes, you know, in the full spectrum is exactly what we needed,

you know, cause, cause you know, on one hand you can do service with it.

On the other hand you can quote major projects and manage major projects.

So that, that's something that we feel like was vital for

us to have that flexibility.

Absolutely.

Brent, if you had to pick one favorite thing with utilizing Simpro,

what is your favorite feature?

One is, I like the quoting feature.

You know, we have our catalog and it's a lot easier to quote.

You know, I'll go and reach out.

I was doing one today and, you know, just to confirm our pricing because it's not

Simpro's issue, it's our supply chain, you know, and if prices have gone up, but

to have the template and pull it in and to give you that foundation to build off,

cuz you have to tweak it here and there cuz not every job is exactly the same.

So I like that fact because I've quoted, even though I've

never done it right, David.

That's true.

Yeah.

Never installed, never service, nothing.

So I think from that point of view, it's a lot easier than the old days.

You know, the pen and paper and all that stuff.

So I love that aspect of it.

And the other aspect I love of it is just being not necessarily.

Having to call every single tech or you know, to go see every single job.

Because if our guys are doing it right, they're pulling pictures in model

serial and we're actually able to see every job the way it lands, you know?

And I think that was huge.

And David, correct me if I'm wrong, But when we had bought Beacon, I think

it was hard for them to tell where their true numbers were, you know?

And it was a lot easier for us because we, once we implemented Simpro or

integrated, I said it, David, I said it once we integrated you know, to see

the bottom number and see how well the company's doing, and, you know, if we

made mistakes, where do we make 'em?

And Simpro is key for that right now.

That's awesome.

It's so fun to hear this.

Cuz you know, it's, you guys are in it, you're in it every day and I

just get to help you tell your story.

So, speaking of stories, I think that's enough about Simpro.

wanna hear more about you guys, you, what you do in the community.

Cuz when we talked, David, you said that you guys were involved in the community

and trade education and I'd love to hear.

Year, how you got started in being advocates for trade education, how

you got started in being more involved in the community, and more about who

you guys are and what you love to do.

Sure.

Well, I'll for we can cover both why don't we start with trade education.

Brent, you want to touch on how we're involved in that?

So,

I've been doing, I've been in the industry my whole life

and I was teaching at the trade schools for the state of Connecticut

and that's how David and I met.

He was looking for apprentices and the Shaffer company was in our backyard and

I wanted to build that relationship.

And I made a lot of connections when I was there and I take a lot of

pride in it and passionate about it.

So David and I met, and then I ended up coming on two years later.

And I stayed with it.

You know, I still have a lot of con, I'm not as close to it as I was.

But we're firm believers of the education side of it with the

tech schools in Connecticut.

I mean, there's, you know, every state's different.

You know, we have apprentices and working with those apprentices to build them up.

Making sure that they're on the apprenticeship program, making sure they

get the classes done and then making sure that they finish off their apprenticeship

so they could test for their license.

And it's very rewarding to see guys pass and you know, they're happy about

it and proud of themselves and to know that we had something to, you know,

help them do with that is it's cool.

Okay.

I know everybody has 'em too.

What's your favorite apprentice story?

Mine, yeah.

I don't know if I can say it on the air.

Well pick one that's safe to share.

Oh God.

I'd have to say it was probably my own when I was an apprentice

there's a gentleman I worked for and he I was carrying 12 inch

black iron pipe all summer long.

And there was a direct burial line, 400,000, over 400,000 volts.

And he was yelling at me saying, I gotta cut it.

And I didn't know what to do.

And I went and I cut it and it was dead.

The wire was completely dead.

But he, you know, he set me up and it was fun and games.

And, you know, I obviously, I knew he wouldn't probably put me in harm's

way, but I didn't know any different.

I was 17 years old.

What do I know?

And I mean, there's a lot of other stories, but I think that

was one of my favorite ones.

And I still have, I still talk to the guy to this day.

I still have a relationship with him and I have a lot of respect for him.

And he's helped me a long way through my career, and I don't

I think everything he did for me helped me build to where I am today.

So I appreciate him.

Is that who taught you how to carry a bucket of steam?

Yeah, that too.

Bucket of steam.

Yeah.

We got a couple good ones.

There's two that I could tell you from school is we used to mess with some kids

and tell 'em to go get a bucket of steam and we'd send them around from shop

to shop and they were looking for it.

And one kid actually, Put a bucket down to a floor, one of those

air dryers for the floor and thought that was a steam machine.

So, that was pretty.

And then one was kids were spray painting and I told them to go outside and

shake the can until the marble stops.

Oh no,

David, do you have any favorites?

That's

my favorite.

The

buck of steam.

Bucket of steam.

Nice.

David?

What about the one when you were the apprentice?

Which one?

There's so many,

Going through the the little scuttle hole.

Oh, that's

right.

That was a good one.

So, we had a situation where we were trying to get into a tight space and

we were, we had to get in there cause we were coring through this really thick wall

and the access hole was as after Brent took the tape measure out and measured

the size of the hole and put the tape measure up to himself and volunteered

his nearest apprentice, which was me to squeak through that hole and get in

there and do what needed to be done.

So that was a good one.

After lathering myself up in.

Lubricant and squeezing through the hall.

It worked out pretty good.

Tell me about a dirty job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

So you guys have an apprenticeship program now?

Yep.

How many kids do you got going through that?

Brian, you wanna take that one?

Yeah.

We got seven apprentices

right now.

And how long have you guys been doing the apprenticeship program?

Well, David's been doing it since he took over.

And the Schaffer company was doing it prior to that.

So, it's pretty important because what happens here in the state of Connecticut

is if people, there's two parts to it.

There's the related instruction, which is the classroom, and then there's the job

hours, which is working with a contractor.

And a lot of these guys, cause I ran the night school program

as well as teach during the day.

These guys get in the gray area.

And a lot of the, I've seen it time and time again actually happened to

myself is a lot of these contractors will say yeah, I'll get you on,

I'll get you on, I'll get you on.

And it's kind of empty promises.

And then they're two years down the road.

And their hours, you know, they're not signed up and their hours aren't counting.

So what did you just do to that, you know, to that apprentice, you know, you just

delayed him because he was hired help.

And then the other thing is, if he's not getting licensed, that means

his pay is not gonna go up either.

So they kind of hold him hostage a little bit.

And I disagree with it a thousand percent.

You know, David and I are firm believers in it, and we want

people to grow with the company.

That's amazing to see.

So do you have anything that you do in the community as well?

Are you guys involved in your community?

David?

Yeah.

We take that very seriously.

We feel like e every business should be involved in its own

community to help further the community in whatever way you can.

So for us, there several ways.

You know, we do that.

I, I suppose at the smaller scale we contribute, you know, for ca you

know, whatever when we get calls we try and budget enough money every

year to contribute to whatever is going on in our community, whichever.

Charitable organization is looking for some help.

And then as far as our time goes, we try and contribute our time strategically

so that, you know, we get the community can get the most out of our time.

So, so both Brent and I do volunteer our time to help as much as we can.

For me, that's, I'm on the board of directors at our boys

and Girls Club in Bristol.

And so I, I'm, you know, a couple of committees there and we sponsor the

The golf event every year in a big way.

And and then I try and help, you know, with, you know, making sure that, you

know, as far as the committees that I'm on with the club, that, you know, we're

making a meaningful contribution there.

And Brent, you wanna talk about your time, how you contribute your time.

Sure.

I was the playing the league president for baseball and softball for, I

just got off the board this year.

I'm also on Parks and Rec in my town, which oversees the local parks.

And then I help out with our C H E C which is a Conga Heian

Cooling Contractor Association.

I was more close knit with that.

But there's a little bit of a falling out, but I'm still part of it.

And then the other one I'm on is the Main Street Community Foundation

which is part of six communities.

I just got put on as a director for the next three years, and

we give out close to $400,000 a year in grants and scholarships.

So it's pretty rewarding to help these programs and students

and around the community.

And I was a past member of the Board of Ed, board of Education as well.

So

You guys are out there and involved.

So, okay.

I would really like to know you know, trade work is important.

Everybody knows that.

How would you encourage people, how would you encourage kids or

adults looking to change careers to get involved in to the Trades?

Well, from my perspective I think you, you have to realize.

As, first of all, as an individual, as a student, you need to kind of

recognize what you love to do, and some people love being outside, love

working with their hands, and using their hands to, to mechanically

solve, like for us in our trade.

Use their hands to solve mechanical problems and install things and fix

things and, you know, analyze the root cause of particular situation.

And then creatively come up with a solution for that.

You know, that's the characteristic of, I think the skills that.

You know, if you were at that stage in school that you would need to,

you know, cuz there's a lot of pressure right now to go to college.

There, and that's been true since the, you know, the, our economy

transformed into more of a service based economy 30 years ago.

And so that, that pressure starts with your parents they feel that pressure cuz

they want to, you know, To their children to succeed and be competitive and so,

and all of that, which is great, you know, and some, for some kids that's the

right path and for others it may not be.

And cuz we have a lot of kids that, that we see that are coming through

as apprentices who tried college and they went through one or two years

to college, spent a lot of money, and then realized that wasn't for them.

So I would say The first step is to overcome that pressure and recognize what

you want to do, and then do what you want to do whether it's going to college or

working with your hands, you know, and and that's I think, you know, the pay scale.

You know, we did a a radio show a few years back where we

were talking about this and.

And the money that you can make coming outta college versus being in

Trades is not that different nowadays.

You can make some very good money work with your hands and

so if your goal is to make a good living, you can do that both ways.

And then misperception, I think, is that going to college is somehow superior in,

in many different ways, and it's really.

At least financially it's not, you know, I think socially some people have, you

know, a stigma that they put on that.

Like I said, thanks to the transformation that we had in our economy to a certain

more service based economy years ago.

But that's starting to swing back the other way.

And we're bringing more manufacturing and more trade based.

Our trade based economy is turning the corner.

And we're, and I think Covid had a lot to do with that.

And the need to be more self-sufficient and not and have more options

in the global supply chain.

So that's all helping to turn and rebalance, I think, the economy.

But if I were, if, you know, and we talk to our apprentices all the time,

but if I were talking to somebody in high school, when they're at that stage

where they're thinking about things, you know, I think you just have to look.

You have to, you know, have a conversation with your parents and

come to terms with what you really are good at and what you like to do.

And if you're mechanically inclined and you like working with your

hands and like solving problems like that and then I think that's the.

To answer your question, I think that's a very long-winded

way to answer your question.

I'm sorry, but I think that's really the path that you would have to

take as an individual to really kind of come to the conclusion.

I think sometimes people need to realize that for themselves too.

So if you had any advice or words of encouragement for people looking

to join the Trades, what would it be?

So I think exposure and I'm involved, the superintendent

of our local school district had asked, or actually assistant asked,

had asked me to be on a committee.

And David actually went with me to a couple times to college and career day.

And what they did is they pulled the high school kids to see what

they wanted to do, and then they had professionals come in and talk to them.

Having a son that's in high school and having a daughter that's in middle school

and knowing how the trade schools work, I think we need to get that information

down to the middle school level.

Because if they, I know they're young and I know it's hard for them to make a

decision, but if they can at least have some sort of direction and then they an

exposure, then they can decide to go to trade school and they're not you know,

they're coming into it early, especially with the way the labor force is today.

So I think it's getting down to the schools and the guidance counselors.

I know when I was in school, guidance counselors always push college.

I know we need the college bound people but we also need the trade people and.

I think, like, to reiterate what David said, you know, if kids are,

you know, willing to be outside and willing to, you know, have that

mechanical mind that does help them.

But I think they need to be exposed too.

And maybe they don't know they have it yet, you know, and so

they have the chance to do it.

You know, I have my two kids and.

They have every tool that known to man cuz they're like their father and who's to say

they're even gonna go in their industry?

And I would never force that upon them.

You know, I have to support them the way they, what they want to do.

So I think it's getting down into the school level.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I just wanna say thank you guys for your time today and if there's any

questions that I haven't asked that you just want to get off your chest,

I'd love to give you the floor.

So,

I know in, in Connecticut, the trade schools were

known as the dumping ground.

The kids that weren't in high school couldn't make it in public schools,

or were gonna send them to trade school because now it doesn't affect

my public high school numbers.

And I just think that's totally wrong.

So, yeah,

I mean, the the fact that schools are still measured by their graduation

rate and other ones graduating, how many are going on to college,

it's just, it doesn't help because.

You know, what gets measured is what gets done.

And so that they should really be balancing that out with you

know, postgraduate you know, post graduation education or postgraduate

education, whether it's going into Trades or whether it's going

to college, it shouldn't matter.

They're going on to do something else.

That's what's important.

Absolutely.

I definitely agree and I, from all the research I've been doing, I think those

wins are gonna be changing in the next few years just because of the massive

labor shortage that we're still seeing.

Right.

So hopefully we're gonna see the education shifting around

that in the next few years.

And, You guys already know you're doing the work.

You're putting in the work that's going to make the change.

And I appreciate every time I hear an organization doing things for the

community, doing things to better the youth, doing things to create more avenues

for people who aren't college brained.

Because sitting in a classroom for that much time is not for everybody.

It sucked.

Yeah.

I hated college, you know?

I hated going to school and getting through it on the other side, it's

like, oh wow, I didn't have to do that.

Exactly.

There's other options.

Right.

So, I just thank you guys for putting in the work.

Thank you for being there for the next generation.

Happy to do it.

Definitely.

Well, thank you guys so much.

Thank you.

It's a pleasure.

Have a wonderful day.

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