With rising speculation that former President Donald Trump will seek the 2024 GOP nomination and make a run for the White House, many on the left and in the media see another Trump presidency as a harbinger of a constitutional crisis on a scale unmatched since the Civil War. However, if the past five years have taught us anything, it is that Trump and his supporters are not the sole authors of our political mess.

Holman W. Jenkins, Jr. joined Marc and Dany to discuss Trump, the Russian collusion hoax, the abdication of the press, and the real threats to our political system and institutions.

Holman Jenkins is a member of the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal and the author of its biweekly “Business World” column. Mr. Jenkins won a 1997 Gerald Loeb Award for distinguished business and financial coverage, and in 2013 he became the inaugural winner of the Calvin Coolidge Prize for Journalism.

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