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On this week's Wellness Wednesday episode Dr. Martone aka Dr. Sleep Right brings over 23 years worth of chiropractic experience and a deep knowledge of both our posture and sleep. In this episode Evan and Dr. Martone cover:

-How we are losing the natural curvature of our necks.

-How chiropractic work largely deals with nerves.

-How digestive issues can be a neurological problem.

-How correcting our posture can correct other issues in the body.

-Why we are sleeping incorrectly.

-What is the proper way to sleep.


This episode is loaded with amazing information, and is sure to teach you something about your sleep and health of your posture. This episode also mentions the vagus nerve and its importance in the parasympathetic nervous system. This is a must listen for everyone. Do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.


Disclaimer:

This podcast is for educational purposes only, it is not a substitute for professional care by a doctor or other qualified medical professional. Evan Roberts is not a medical professional and this podcast is provided on the understanding that it does not constitute medical or other professional advice or services. Statements and views expressed on this show are not medical advice, this podcast, including Evan Roberts and any guests on the show, disclaims responsibility for any possible adverse effects from the use of information contained in this episode. If you think you have a medical problem please consult a medical professional.

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Welcome back to the Elemental Evans Show.

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Today I am joined with a very special guest today.

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It is Dr.

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Peter Maroni, or others might know him as Dr.

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Sleep, right?

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He is a chiropractor.

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He's been a chiropractor for over 23 years.

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He's now into the sleep field and he knows so much about posture

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and how it relates to our sleep.

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Uh, so I'm really excited to get into this episode today.

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Welcome on to the show, Dr.

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Maroni or Dr.

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Sleep Wright.

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Yeah.

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Well that's, uh, thank you, Evan.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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I, uh, love people that are really trying to promote a, a message

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to, uh, this world because it's, man, we need it more than ever.

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So I commend you.

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Thank you.

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No, and, and also thank you for doing this incredible work.

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Uh, we already, I mean, you and I both know how important sleep is,

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but, uh, it's really awesome to be able to share the importance of

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it in a, in a platform like this.

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So thank you for coming on.

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You're welcome.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, to just kind of help everyone get a better idea of who you are and

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where you're coming from, uh, I like to do a couple quick rapid fire questions.

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So, uh, first off, just where are you?

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Yeah, so I am about 20 minutes north of Boston, so in, uh,

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Massachusetts, up in New England.

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And, uh, I've been there for, uh, most of my life.

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Awesome.

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And is that where you're based out of right now?

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That's where I'm based out of right now.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Awesome.

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Very cool.

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Is it kind of chilly out there right now?

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Yeah, there a little snowflake, uh, kind of dropped from the sky little

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earlier today, so I guess you could say it's a little, little chilly.

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Yeah.

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. That's awesome.

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I mean, it's good to get all the seasons though.

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It's cool.

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We, uh, sometimes lack that out here in, in California, but, uh, still.

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Very cool.

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Um, what is, uh, a favorite book of yours?

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Um, favorite book is, I really like the, uh, book, Atlas Shrugged.

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And, um, you know, it's, I just really love.

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And it's basically what's going on now in our culture where a culture

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is kind of breaking down, you know, a little bit based on what's going

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on, you know, going into recession.

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And, and at the end, Atlas Shrug, they, they took themselves out of the

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culture and immersed themselves into a new place called Atlantis and Atlantis.

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Literally translated means island of Atlas.

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Atlas is the top bone in the human body that holds up, you know,

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your brain, which is your world.

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So I really just kind of resonated with all that.

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And name one of my companies, Atlantis Chiropractic Wellness Centers.

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That's incredible.

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Honestly, I, I actually, I had no idea about that.

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You just made that so much deeper.

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That's awesome.

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Very cool.

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Uh, what's a favorite quote of yours?

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Uh, be the change you wanna see in this world, because nobody's

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gonna change it for you and.

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You know, it's really you, you have to live.

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If, if there's something wrong in your life or there's something

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wrong around you, really you are the only one that you have to blame.

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So, So you gotta either change your perspective or stop living

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the life that you want to portray and achieve in this world.

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So I like that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I think action speaks so loud and sometimes, you know, uh, I can give all

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the advice I possibly can to someone to help them improve their health or whatever

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it may be, but I found that literally just living what you're saying, you

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know, uh, is what speaks the loudest and people see that and it rubs off on them.

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So definitely agree with.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, alright, well thank you for those quick rapid fire questions.

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Now let's go ahead and jump into, uh, sleep and, and

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everything based around sleep.

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So really what got you into the chiropractic field and

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then also kind of focusing on sleep and the importance of it.

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Yeah, that's a great question because, you know, chiropractic,

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I can, you know, myself, I wasn't, my father wasn't a chiropractor.

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Um, I had gone to a chiropractic, a chiropractor when I was

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younger after a car accident.

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I really.

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Didn't like it so much.

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I just didn't like the cracking that that had been going on.

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But then later on I was, you know, deciding to go to medical

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school and, and, and, you know, getting all my prerequisites done.

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And I had met a chiropractor and he is like, what are you thinking about doing?

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I'm like going to, I'm going to, uh, medical school.

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He's like, give a thought about chiropractic.

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And I'm like, well, yeah, no, I've already done it.

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I really didn't like it so much, but I had always had a stomach

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issue after my, my accident.

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And he, and he is like, I know you should try chiropractic and, uh,

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maybe he'll be able to help you.

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I'm like, no, I've done it.

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I've done it.

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He's like, well, and he said something that really made sense.

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He's like, well, if the, what if the nervous system controls everything

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in the human body and then the, if the spine is out of alignment due to

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some injury or due to, you know, due to the spine being out of alignment,

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that can cause interference in the.

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That's going to your stomach.

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So you might not have a stomach issue, you might have a neurology issue

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because the spine is out of alignment.

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And that made sense to me.

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Just in me stomach problem went away.

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Never had to take any medication again for it.

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So I went to chiropractic school because I really liked the idea that, you know,

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chiropractic isn't for neck and back pain.

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That's not how the profession was started.

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It's to remove nerve pressure and allow the body to function more efficiently.

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And uh, and that's really what got me into chiropractic.

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What got me into sleep is zigzag, you know, quite a bit forward is even

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as a chiropractor, um, practicing at that point, uh, 15 years.

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When I, when I kind of started thinking about zigzagging in the

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sleep industry, I had always had back pain and I was adjusting people,

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adjusting people, adjusting people, and I, I had still had back pain.

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I had shoulder problems, I had impingement syndrome in my should.

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. And it wasn't until I herniated my disc and I was in the emergency

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room in the hospital and I'm like, oh man, how did it come to this?

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I'd been a chiropractor for 15 years.

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I, I had always had back pain and now I'm sitting in the emergency

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room keeping people out of, and I have a herniated disc.

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I'm thinking, I always have shoulder problems.

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What the heck is going on with me?

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So I reviewed, uh, I'd always take x-rays, but I.

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3000 x-rays at that point, at that time.

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Um, and it came up with a pattern.

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And that pattern is that due to my sleeping position and being hunched

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over people, adjusting them all day, I didn't have a back problem.

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I had a neck issue.

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Because I was losing the curve in my neck.

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So what happens is my, and you'll see people when you, when they're walking

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around, they all walk around like this with this forward head posture, right?

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And then reactive to that is you get a so ass major muscle spasm through

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the stomach that causes the mu, that causes that muscle to constrict.

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and it puts pressure on a disc.

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And then that's why my disc herniated.

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So from that point on, I'm like, wow, could it really be a neck issue

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that I had the whole time and not.

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In a reactive lower back problem.

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So I started jamming towels up underneath my neck and, and try cuz in

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chiropractic they make these devices where you use 'em 10 minutes a day

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and it just didn't make sense to me cuz they hurt and how many people are

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going to do that on a regular basis.

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So I started restructure my spine where I know.

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That you can spend eight hours a night, uh, in the bed.

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So I, I started making specific things and then I developed a

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specific pillow to put underneath your neck to restore that curve.

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And now, you know, I'm in the sleep industry and it's been what a what

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a what a great industry and, and doors that have really embraced us

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based on, uh, the message that we've.

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Wow, that's an incredible story.

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Uh, I kind of feel like I have a lot of questions here.

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Um, so first off, we're, we're definitely gonna dive more into the neck nest,

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which i, I want to hear more about.

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But, um, I really love how you explained that you know, something, even though

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you're feeling pain lower in your body, It originated from up in the, in

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the neck, you know, and it just goes to show the connection of the body

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and how everything is so intertwined.

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And it's just so wild to think like, you know, we're so always focused on where the

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point of pain is, which is obvious, but, uh, it's really interesting to see that

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interconnectedness of the body and how, you know, adjusting here can really play a

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role everywhere else throughout the body.

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So that's, that's incredible.

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Um, also as far as your, um, explanation of, you know, A chiropractor does

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by releasing pain from those, or you know, pressure from those nerves.

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I've never thought of it like that.

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That is a really interesting way of Well, I mean, it's not

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even a way of thinking of it.

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It is what's happening and that's really incredible.

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Um, cuz yeah, I always, I just think of it as like, you know, popping that area

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and relieving some pressure for the time being, but that's really incredible.

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What was the, uh, stomach issue, if you don't mind me asking, that you

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were dealing with that, uh, was healed?

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So it's overproduction of acid.

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So anytime you have an issue in an organ, let's say it's in, the organ, is

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controlled by, what's something that's called the autonomic nervous system?

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Autonomic meaning it's like on autopilot and within the autonomic nervous

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system, you have two opposite nerves.

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You have the sympathetic and the parasympathetic there, you know,

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complete opposite each other.

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So one turns an organ on and then one shuts an organ off.

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So let's say you're gonna run from a.

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You use your sympathetic to run from a tiger.

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So your sympathetic nervous system would shut down, your digestive system

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would shut down, your reproductive system would shut down your immune

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system, and it would turn on musculoskeletal, um, you know, blood

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going into the musculoskeletal system.

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Respiratory system, cardiovascular system.

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So if you're gonna survive, you need your sympathetic nervous

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system if you're going to thrive.

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You need your parasympathetic nervous system.

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So these two nervous systems, one turns something on one shirt,

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such, you know, shut something off.

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So they're always in balance.

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And when there's an interference in the signal of that nervous system,

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it throws that body into imbalance.

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So it throws it out of balance.

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So what happens is that the organ becomes dysfunctional.

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So when you start to get adjusted and you.

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Remove that nerve pressure, things start to balance, and then organs

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start to heal and maintain function.

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Yeah, it's incredible.

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I was just doing a bit of research on the vagus nerve and its connection

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to the parasympathetic nervous system and, and just that kind of

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two-way communication between all the different organs and the brain.

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Is that it right there?

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Yeah.

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It's the vagus nerve right there.

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Yep.

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That's incredible.

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Yeah.

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And so essentially it could be even that nerve that's being pinched somewhere.

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Yeah.

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And then just alleviating the pressure through, you know, chiropractic

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practice or something like that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, so I like when there's the, the parasympathetic nervous system is 80% of.

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The vagus nerve represents 80% of the entire parasympathetic

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nervous system, and the vagus nerve comes right out from the atlas.

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So that's, so what happens is, is the vagus nerve controls reproduction,

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digestion, and immune system.

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So it's no coincidence that when somebody has a digestion issue, they

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also have an immune system issue.

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So for.

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I tell people never to take an antibiotic at all.

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I mean, I, I, right around October and November, going into the wintertime in

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the northern hemisphere, because you will be sick for the entire winter and

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what, because what ends up happening is when you take an antibiotic to

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wipe to, to address an infection, you wipe out the digestive tract flora,

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and then you suppress the immunity.

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So you can't affect one without affecting the other.

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So, digestion, reproduction, and immune.

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So what happens is, is when we live in this sympathetic world of this

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sympathetic dominant stress, because we're always in this fight or flight

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that, so what happens and, and you don't have a good, you don't have a

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well aligned atlas because of your poor sleeping position that interferes with

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the bodies of the body's, the vagus nerve.

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So that interferes with the body's ability to.

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Improve digestion to turn on, uh, immune system and to balance the hormones.

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So, so due to misalignment, you have parasympathetic nerve suppression,

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which causes a digestion nerve issue and, uh, a digestive tract issue.

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So that's why when I was getting adjusted, it removed that pressure

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turned on the parasympathetic nervous system, and the, then the stomach

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started to function, uh, more.

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That's incredible.

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Yeah.

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Um, and that's definitely what I was looking at was the connection

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between the paray or the, uh, vagus nerve and then the gut health.

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Right.

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Um, and then also on top of that being that our immune system largely

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resides in, uh, our, you know, in our gut obviously would make sense

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at the para or that the vagal, the vagus nerve plays such a large role.

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That's incredible.

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And that, that's, it just drapes the entire Wow.

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Digestive tract there.

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I mean, it's just cow.

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Such a beautiful.

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You know, illustration of the complexity of the vagus nerve there.

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It's unbelievable.

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Yeah.

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No wonder they call it the wanderer nerve.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy.

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Oh my gosh.

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Okay.

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I'm, I'm super, I did not expect to hear more about the vagus nerve.

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I love that.

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Um, I was literally just doing some research on it, so that That's awesome.

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Um, okay.

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Moving into the ness then.

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So the reason you designed that was, Essentially we are taking the arch

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out of our neck and what you're doing is you're allowing us to, you know,

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essentially have eight hours of, you know, our 24 hour day to recorrect

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that that arch kind of in our neck.

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Is that correct?

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It's exactly what happens.

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We're reversing the damaging effect of the modern day lifestyle.

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So there are three laws that are at play.

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The first law is the writing reflex, and the writing reflex states

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that your body position, your body posture, adjusts to head position.

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So if you have forward head posture, your body is going to

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respond by, by twisting the hips.

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So everybody thinks their hips are out of alignment because there's an

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issue with core strength or there's an issue with a core imbalance.

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Muscles are minions.

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They're always being told what to do.

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They're being told by the neurology.

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You never have a, typically a muscle and balance or a muscle issue.

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You normally have a, a, a balanced awareness of what's called proprioceptive

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issue, and it's usually in the brain.

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So the nervous system is controlling the muscle.

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The muscle is misfiring, not because there's a problem

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that needs strengthening.

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It's because there's an issue in the.

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So if we understand that through the writing reflex,

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then we apply the next two laws.

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Davis' Law in Wolf's law.

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Davis' Law.

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Well, Wolf's law says if you don't use it, you lose it.

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Davis' Law says that the stress.

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Tissue will remold based on the stresses that it's put upon.

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So, which means if I take a, if I want my arm to bend, I take my arm,

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I hold it like this, and in a year I will have a bent bone because the

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tissue will remold around that stress.

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So by using that as a, as a, um, as an understanding, you don't

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wanna just support something cuz you're gonna make something weak.

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What you wanna do is you want to stretch something.

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Over a period of time slowly, and you'll be able to remold the tissue.

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So that's what I take the opportunity at night in the bed to do people toss

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and turn all night long because they're in the wrong, not the wrong position,

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they're in the wrong posture, and they're using the, these pillows that I just,

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uh, support the head too much and the support even makes the neck weaker.

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Or they're sleeping in, in poor positions where they're tucking their.

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So we developed the neck nest to be, you know, you're not gonna just get a

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neck nest right off the bat and say, oh my God, it's the most comfortable

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pill in the whole white world.

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This is great cuz that's not how our body works.

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We need to first establish the proper posture to set up in the middle of

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the night, and then the neck nest is designed to be able to help you maintain

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that posture as long as you can.

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I tell people to use a neck nest at the beginning, one to two hours a night,

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and it'll transform their entire.

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Night sleep over a period of time.

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That's super interesting.

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So if you're first trying out the neck nest pillow, it's actually not a great

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idea to go and use it the entire night.

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No.

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So what you can do, if you notice right here, there's like a sleep wedge.

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Um, I tell people either get a sleep wedge or, um, let me see if

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I can move this back so you can see here, you know, you can get a sleep.

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Because if you put it flat, sometimes it's a little, um, you know, your body.

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You know, your chest opens up a little bit.

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You, you, you're gonna have some issues.

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And actually, the ness that I had here in my podcast room, somebody came over

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and they took, because I needed a pillow.

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So I actually have, um, I had to go upstairs and get a, get another

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one as my friend's logo on it.

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They, uh, they got a whole bunch for their company way back, and

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that's the only one I had left.

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They're too popular, . So what I'll do is I'll show you, um, when you

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use a neck nest, You use a neck nest?

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Uh, at the beginning.

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Uh, the, well, at the beginning you can use it flat, but when you really

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use it, the neck nest is designed to be angled and then put under your neck.

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Wow.

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You here, you lie down here, you take your ness, uh, take it here, right?

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And then you angle it, then you put it right under your.

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Interesting.

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And then what that's doing is that's taking the weight of my head's

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over the back of the neck nest.

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And it's like, it's like hugging, that's why I call it the nest

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nesting right around my neck and putting my neck into a position

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and I'm looking up at the ceiling.

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Oh, what a comfortable position.

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. Yeah, . Once you get used, And then, you know, a lot of people say, well, what

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about I can't sleep like that, I'll snore.

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Um, you know, it's not good to sleep on your back.

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And then all these objections immediately come up when we talk

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about sleeping on your back.

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And then we have this whole program that you alluded to.

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It's a, it's a sleep university and we're really.

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Teach people all how to handle the issues that come up when you're

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starting to sleep on your back.

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And like I tell people, one to two hours a night, you put your neck in one to two

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hours of traction a night, and that really good, um, you know, distracted position.

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And you'll transform any injuries and problems that you have in your own spine.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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And so to that point then, laying on your back is the proper way to be sleeping.

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Laying on your back, but making sure that something is under your neck because

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you can cause just as much damage if you sleep using a neck nest, let's say,

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and your, and you just use it like this.

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See what happens by chin, right?

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Super important that your, your, your angle of your chin is up like that.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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And knock down.

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So that makes a big difference.

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So it's not just sleep position, that's important.

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It's the posture that you set yourself up in.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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Um, yeah, so essentially the reason this is all happening too, uh, not

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just for you, because you were saying as a chiropractor, you were bent

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over, uh, very often, but also I, I'm thinking of people who are you?

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At their home office or whatever it may be, and constantly hunching forward

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trying to, you know, look at their computer screen or on their mobile phone.

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And that that is also leading to this, you know, imbalance in our spine.

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Is that correct?

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Yeah, absolutely correct.

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Gotcha.

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And so what should the proper alignment of the spine, I, I can see obviously

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the photo back there, but what from, you know, starting from like the atlas, what,

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what should the curvature look like?

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Yeah, so the curvature here should be what's called a kyphotic fur.

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The.

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Um, you know, so the head would be forward, forward here.

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So the spine has this s shape.

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Basically the, the spine would look like a spring.

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You know, where the curves of the spine are, the actual shock absorbers.

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Everybody thinks the discs as the shock absorbers.

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They're not.

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The disc help you maintain movement.

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The curves of the spine should be the shock absorbs, and when the the

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spine breaks down and you start to lose the structure of the curve,

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you actually lose those curves.

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They're gone.

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They actually go the wrong way.

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And that biomechanically causes so much dysfunction in people's spines

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and causes so many health related.

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You can't get healthy if your spine is out of alignment.

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It's just, it's not possible because the nervous system, which is the

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root controller of the entire thing is, is out of alignment.

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Would that also be, uh, a common cause for sciatica?

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Um, sciatica is, is that the, the definition is pain in the sciatic nerve.

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So my question to that would be, well, what's causing the pressure on the.

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So the pressure on the nerve could come from a nerve root, which comes

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out from the spine, could come from a disc herniation, could come from a, uh,

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posterior facet joint, uh, hypertrophy or, or, or inflammation, the posterior facet.

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Or it can come from um, a muscle in your butt called your so ass.

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The SOAs can be in spasm and it's the only muscle in the human body

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that goes directly through a muscle.

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Oh, wow.

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The nerve, sciatic nerve goes through the, so, So when the SOAs is tight,

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it constricts the sciatic nerve.

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So depending on, so the cause of SI pressure and the pain in the sciatic

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nerve have multiple causes, but more often than not, it's reactive to some

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sort of degenerative condition in the neck that causes the hips to react.

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And then over a period of time, you wear down the, uh, the, the, the

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structure of the spine, which eventually will cause pain in the sciatic.

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Oh, bad.

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I know.

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It's just so complicated, . Like it's, you know, and it's so hard to think, like,

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I, I don't, I got a d d, so I don't think lineal, I think on like in a broad scale,

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it's just, that's not a simple question.

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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And I mean, As with anything in the body, right?

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There is almost never really just a super straightforward answer.

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It is all interconnected, but um, I just know that, uh, there's been

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a lot of people here recently I feel that have been, uh, telling

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me they have sciatic pain.

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And so, uh, just one of the questions I wanted to throw out there, but,

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um, I think now would be a good time to also move into just the

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importance of sleep and, and.

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We need am, you know, proper amounts of it, um, what it's doing to the people

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who are not getting proper amounts of it.

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Um, and, and also if you have any tips that you would love to share

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about how to get better sleep, that would be, uh, very much appreciated.

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Not only for myself, but also for all of the listeners for sure.

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I think one of, uh, one of the biggest things that, that happen

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to people that don't, you know, so here's the way that I explain it.

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When you have an iPhone and you have a lot of apps going on in your

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iPhone, the more performance you ask out of that iPhone, the more you wear

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the battery down, the quicker you wear the battery down, the more you

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need to plug it in to recharge it.

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Normally with our phones, we recharge it, we plug in and we

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recharge it a hundred percent.

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And then you have, you know, the dependency of your battery the next.

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Your body is the same way, but you recharge at night when you sleep.

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But the problem is, is pitcher have an iPhone and, and just plugging

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in, unplugging in, plugging it in, unplugging in, plugging in, it disrupts

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the, the charging of the battery.

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Maybe you're not charged when you wake up at a hundred percent.

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Maybe you're functioning at 70% power or maybe you functioning at 60% power.

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Now, how do you feel that day?

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Versus a day that you're functioning at a hundred percent, you just feel powerful.

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You feel like you just have more energy and, and that's what sleep does

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every, I don't care what disease it is, there's anything can be helped

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with sleep because better sleep, better recharging, better regeneration.

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And, and there's not one study or one expert out there that will not tell

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you that sleep is super important.

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So now what are some tips to be able to get a great night's sleep?

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And which is what I've spent, you know, the last, uh, geez, now

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eight years of my, my existence research and in, in diving into.

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And I'm like the practical sleep guy.

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You know, there are, there are people that maybe dive into the brain

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neurology a little bit more than I will, but I will tell you how to get

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a good night's sleep because I love sleep and I'm a practical sleeper, and

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I've helped thousands and thousands of people across the globe sleep.

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And, and really one of my be, well, the, the number one best step is consistency.

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That's why, like I said, right after a time change, everybody gets sick because

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it throws off their circadian rhythm.

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And because we're not plugging in at a hundred percent, our body's

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immune system is already depleted.

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And then during the wintertime, um, we just get thrown outta

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balance and everybody's gonna be sick around this time, not

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because some virus made a comeback.

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And now the, the second thing is, is you cannot.

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Think yourself to sleep effectively.

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So you have to remember yourself to sleep.

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So what that means is if you're thinking about something that

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happens, it's gonna happen tomorrow.

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You, you're thinking about rationalizing your bloods in the

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front part of your brain and you're never gonna be able to fall asleep.

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But because we're all control freaks, we wanna kind of keep.

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Things going well.

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It's the same thing in your, so you can focus on either thinking or you

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can focus on remembering and, and your body doesn't care which one,

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but it wants to focus on something.

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So if you focus on a good memory in the past, the further back, the better, let's

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say happened a week ago, a year ago, two years ago when you were a child, and it's

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a good memory and you put yourself asleep on that memory and you remember yourself

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to sleep, you'll be able to get to sleep and stay asleep much more effectively.

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Wow.

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That's super interesting.

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I never thought of.

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Geez.

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Okay.

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Uh, yeah, those are definitely some great tips.

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I know.

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Um, definitely I do a few practices such as trying.

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Just as I have a morning ritual, I try to create like an, uh, evening ritual as,

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as well, something to wind the body down.

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And so usually that involves some kind of a nighttime tea.

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Uh, I'll usually take a magnesium supplement in the evening as well,

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try to dim all of the lights.

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Uh, If not, uh, even turn them off.

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Try to also give myself at least an hour before bedtime without any screens.

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And I do feel that those have helped drastically, but I've never thought

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about, uh, trying to think of another memory, because the nights when

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I do have a hard time sleeping.

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Cuz you're thinking constantly.

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Uh, yeah.

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It's because you're like, oh, why can't I just stop thinking?

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But, uh, moving that back to memory, that is really interesting.

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I'm, I'm curious as to why that even does, does that, but, um, what do you think

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of those slipped, uh, Practices as well.

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Do you agree with all of those?

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What's your take on, kinda like a magnesium supplement as well?

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Yeah, no, I, I like magnesium.

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Uh, we created a, a, a supplement called Deep Sleep.

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It has magnesium in it.

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Magnesium I like over like a melatonin because magnesium will

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like, it will settle the brain down, kind of relax the body.

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You wanna put yourself into a relaxed, calm state, and then you can couple

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that with remembering and the.

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The, the reason, uh, the science behind remembering and, and thinking,

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I kinda, in researching it and coming up with it, when you think the blood's

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in the front part of your brain, when you remember the blood's in the back

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part of your brain, you sleep centers are in the back part of your brain.

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So you need the blood to go from the front part of your brain

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to the back part of your brain.

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The most effective way to do that is to.

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So that, so what you're doing is you're basically shutting the blood down from

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the front part and bringing the blood to the, uh, to the back part of the brain.

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And when you do that, you're, you're, you're tapping into a.

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A space of, of, of calmness and, and, and anything that you can take

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supplement wise that like a GABA or, or magnesium and, and you know, some

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people use CBD without thc and, and, you know, you can use all of these, these

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things, warm temp, you know, uh, like.

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Like a warm shower or, or, or meditation or use some

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aromatherapy, things like that.

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Anything that kinda calms your system down and allows you to

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be able to do that is good.

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Cause one of the ways to get into a good sleep is your heart rate needs,

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excuse me, your heart rate needs to drop, and if you're stimulated, your

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heart rate won't be able to drop.

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So, Yeah, absolutely.

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So once again, like stimulating, stimulating that parasympathetic

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nervous system, right.

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To help get into that state.

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Okay.

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And then you, you mentioned melatonin, which I'm glad you did because I know

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there's a lot of people who are taking melatonin and I've also had a lot of

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people tell me that they took melatonin and it was effective at first, but

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then over time lost its efficacy.

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Um, would you mind explaining why you would prefer like a magnesium supplement

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or something like GABA over, uh, the Mela?

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Uh, yeah, the Mela.

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Well, one of the things with sleep is sleep needs to be natural.

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Sleep needs to, and, and, and if you can tie into the circadian rhythm.

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Which means, you know, when the sun goes down and the earth goes, you

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know, and the sun comes up and the moon comes up at dark at night, our

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bodies are really cyclical like that.

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Our body temperature elevates and rises, um, you know, based

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on that circadian rhythm.

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And, and, and we get into deep sleep when our body cools.

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So it's very, very important not to just knock you out just to get sleep because

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that, you know, not all sleep is created.

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So you want to be able to go to sleep on a schedule and the, and so I

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like products that don't, that, that are not like hormonal nature where

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you take it and it knocks you out.

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I like products that, that, especially with my clients is I'm like, listen,

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this is the time we need to set up, let's come up with things and, and

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figure out what your problems are first.

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And, and, and, you know, get the lights shut off earlier on.

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Use candlelight, decrease blue lights, decrease EMFs in your house.

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I mean, There's a lot of different things that you can do, and when you start to

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establish healthier patterns versus taking medication to just, you know, drop you

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into a comatose sleep, you, you, you know, you're really setting yourself up to win.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely agree.

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I think, uh, you know, almost in a way getting back to, uh, you know, a

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little bit pre all the technology, you know, trying to just get more into the

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natural, uh, rhythms and cycles is huge.

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And then, uh, in terms.

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The mattress that you're sleeping on, is it better to have a

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harder or a softer type mattress?

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Well, as long I, I don't like too hot of a mattress.

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Um, but as long as you're sleeping on your back, it's, it gets some sort

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of pillow, uh, a neck nest underneath your neck with that neck arch back.

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And at the beginning there's gonna be a little transition time for

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your spine to get used to it.

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Um, but you want, you know, a plush mattress that your body can actually

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fall into a little bit more efficiently.

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And, um, and, and so the, so the, the position first off, that, that

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70% of the population is sleeping in.

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Is the wrong position.

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So before you change a mattress, start to try to sleep differently.

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And then, then, then, um, once you, once your body gets used to that,

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then you can use pillow toppers and do different things like that.

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Okay.

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So definitely like no side sleeping.

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Um, what about sleeping on your stomach?

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Uh, are those all pretty much bad?

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Yeah, those are all bad positions.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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Um, okay.

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And then I have one last question that I'm really curious to hear

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about is, uh, what are these sleep summits that you, uh, put on?

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Yeah, so, well, what we're doing now, right now they're virtual, we're

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gonna be doing our, uh, first sleep summit, which is going to be at the

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end of two thou in the middle of 2023.

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Okay.

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So what I wanted to do is I wanted, so we do these things online,

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Which you can, um, you come in, you can go to, um, you know, Dr.

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Sleep right.com.

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We have th well now over thousand, thousands of people

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taking, uh, our sleep quiz.

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And then that sleep quiz changes.

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And based on the top three problems of that, that month I do a, a

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webinar virtually, and it's just been such, so successful that people

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have been asking me to do a sleep summit where we bring people, you

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know, almost like a sleep retreat.

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Yeah.

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Where we we're gonna bring people, uh, into this, this really

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thought out conscious environ.

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Which is centers around helping people improve sleep.

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So when somebody comes into the sleep environment, it's

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gonna be a low light situation.

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We're gonna tease them how the positioning of the bed, how to

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sleep in, how to use covers.

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So it's going to be raced basically like a sleep university.

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And they're going to, we're gonna have, uh, yoga instructors there

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to teach people how to meditate.

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We're going to, uh, uh, be, um, using specific sense and linking the

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meditation to the sense, so when they go home, they'll be able to go home

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with tools to be able to help them to, um, basically learn how to sleep again.

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So one of my goals is master the art of sleeping.

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Sleeping is in art, it needs to be learned, and nobody's taught anybody.

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How to sleep.

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So that's what we are gonna be the first ones doing.

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That's incredible.

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Yeah.

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No, I, I I love that you actually made me think of, um, back when I was in college,

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I, I heard that your olfactory nerves and, and sense is so powerful that if you

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study with a certain scent on, then you go and take that test, you can actually

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wear that scent and it'll help to bring back those specific, uh, memories, right?

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And, and what you were learning.

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So, uh, that association with the scent and sleep, uh, yeah, that's

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an awesome combination there.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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But All right.

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Well, honestly, that is pretty much all of the questions I had for you.

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Um, I, I learned a lot on this.

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I'm, I'm gonna go back and listen to this for myself, but, um, let's go ahead

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and let everyone know how they can, uh, reach out to you, get in touch with you

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if they want to take this, uh, the sleep quiz and, uh, yeah, just what would

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be the, the best ways and obviously, uh, where to find the neck nest.

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Yeah, they can.

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So we, we we're.

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We, we have two brands now.

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Um, we just created, uh, a separate brand, which is called Dr.

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Sleep, right?

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Dr.

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R s l e e p r i g h t.

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So, so that is where the, the test lies, and you'll be finding out

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more information about the sleep summit and, and, and our retreat.

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Uh, there, and you can define Dr.

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Sleep, right on Instagram and, and, and Facebook.

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And then the Neck Nest is more of a product page, right?

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Gives you more education and, and, and, and how to, um, you know, there are

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videos there and how to use a neck nest.

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What the neck nest is is the next nest right for you.

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And then also, which will be, um, and then also Neck Nest can be

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found on Instagram, in in Facebook.

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So you have doctor sleep.

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And Neck Nest.

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And those are really, and then just behind the scenes just get, you know,

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get linked into our, uh, you know, our socials and, and, and hear more about

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sleep and, and, uh, we'll be doing a podcast also called Sleep Tight with Dr.

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Sleep.

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Right.

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And, uh, we'll be breaking it down.

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That's why I commend you on doing this, cuz I know how much, how much

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dedication and, and, and focus and commitment it takes and, and, you know,

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and you know, to be, to be frank with anybody, everybody as I, I kind of, you

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know, this was rescheduled for Tuesday.

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I mean, this was scheduled from Tuesday to today or just a different day and I.

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I, I, I was like, it wasn't on my calendar, and I forgot.

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And then when I saw your text, I'm like, listen, I know the effort

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you put in to make this happen.

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And, uh, that's why I kind of ran down here and, uh, and, and, and jumped on.

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Yeah, no, I, I appreciate that.

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Honestly, it's, uh, it, it.

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It's more work than I thought it was gonna be.

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It's a labor of love.

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I, I truly enjoy this, but I really do appreciate, uh, yeah, you making that

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extra effort because there's definitely been many guests who, uh, who, you

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know, it's, it's, you get ahold of 'em and then all of a sudden they're gone.

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You know?

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So I really do appreciate it.

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And also, I'm just happy to have you on the show because this information

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that you're providing is, Incredible.

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And, uh, to be able to just be literally the conduit that shares it.

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I'm, I'm so happy and if you have any questions with podcasting, you have any

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issues, like, reach out to me anytime.

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I'm happy to give any of my, of my failure experience and, uh,

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yeah, definitely, uh, reach out and we'll, we'll get in touch on that.

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All right.

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Thanks a lot, Evan.

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I really appreciate your touch.

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Thank you so much, Dr.

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Sleep.

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Right.

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I will go ahead and have all of those links posted in the show notes.

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Um, everybody go ahead and follow this guy.

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He has just incredible information and, uh, so blessed and happy

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to, uh, have had you on the show.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you everybody.

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You know the motto of the show.

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It's do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.

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Peace.

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Hey, everyone.

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I hope you all enjoyed this episode with Dr.

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Martone or Dr.

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Sleep.

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Right.

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I personally loved speaking with him and learning more about the link

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between our posture sleep and digestion.

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So.

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As you just heard in this podcast episode, Dr.

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Martone has developed a pillow that's designed to improve your posture.

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While you're sleeping by molding your neck to its natural curve.

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That most of us seem to be losing due to being on our phones

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and constantly hunched over.

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Oh, computer at work or at home.

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Dr.

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Martone pillow also known as the neck nest can help reset your

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posture, which can have a ripple effect all throughout your body.

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And just for being a listener to this show, Dr.

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