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Intuitive Eating: How To Eat What You Love with Dietitian Sammy Previte of Find Food Freedom
Episode 9217th May 2022 • Am I Doing This Right? • Corinne Foxx and Natalie McMillan
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TW: Relationships to food, disordered eating, eating disorders, and toxic eating habits



OUR HOSTS: 

Corinne Foxx - @corinnefoxx

Natalie McMillan - @nataliemcm and @shopnataliemcmillan 

What we're drinking: Roscato Rosso Dolce 

MEET OUR GUEST: 

Sammy Previte - find-foodfreedom.com, @find.food.freedom on Instagram, and @findfoodfreedom on TikTok 

ABOUT OUR GUEST: 

Sammy Previte is the founder of Find Food Freedom®, a virtual private practice of non-diet dietitians and certified Intuitive Eating counselors. She’s also a registered dietitian, certified Intuitive Eating counselor, certified personal trainer, and podcast host. Her mission is to help others create peace with food and re-discover food as a means for nourishment and pleasure. Find Food Freedom® is rooted in Intuitive Eating and Health at Every Size, and the team believes that all humans deserve fair, unbiased health care regardless of the size of their body.


TOPIC: 

We’ve gotten a lot of requests to do an episode about diet culture and how to heal your relationship with food, so we invited Sammy on to talk about what Intuitive Eating is, why diets don't work, and how to feel balanced and free with your eating choices. We discuss body image, examples of disordered eating, and how to get to the root of your thoughts and beliefs about food. Sammy also shares advice for how to build a toolkit to keep you safe around people or events that might trigger disordered eating patterns. Plus, we talk about what inspired her to start Find Food Freedom® and how people can get started on their Intuitive Eating journey today. 


In this episode, we discuss:

  • Learning how to trust your body and hunger cues again 
  • Debunking myths about Intuitive Eating 
  • What an intuitive vs. diet culture eating experience might look like 
  • Why Noom isn’t actually the ‘anti-diet’ that they claim to be 
  • The bias against people in bigger bodies who promote Intuitive Eating 
  • Recognizing disordered eating habits that are normalized in our society
  • Coming to terms with childhood beliefs about food 
  • Creating a support system for when you feel triggered by people or events 


END OF THE SHOW: 

Corinne and Natalie introduce Hottie of the Week: Jennifer Lawrence 


WINE RATING:

Roscato Rosso Dolce = 7 / J Law 


WRAP UP:

To wrap up the episode, we play Recent Obsessions, and we have two TV show recommendations! Corinne is loving Is It Cake?, a baking contest where cake decorators create replicas of inanimate objects and the judges have to guess if it’s real or a cake. Nat just finished Severance, which is slightly more serious, but she says that it’s up there with Breaking Bad and Stranger Things, which are her favorite shows of all time. 


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[00:00:05] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.

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[00:00:17] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic and we drink a new bottle of wine.

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Yeah. And we just want to say at the top right now, we want to leave a little trigger. Because we know that food can be a sensitive subject and we will be talking about relationships to food, disordered, eating, eating disorders, and toxic eating habits. So if that doesn't feel good to you, you can feel free to listen to one of our other episodes off.

Yeah, you don't have to do this, but we just wanted to give you guys that heads up.

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[00:01:26] Corinne Foxx: recent obsession. So yeah. Yes. So now what are we drinking today? Well, this is actually

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[00:01:35] Corinne Foxx: drinking today.

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[00:01:47] Corinne Foxx: She wrote into the podcast and she said, I would like to suggest a personal favorite. It is a sweeter red wine Russ Scotto, Rosso, Dolce. I usually find it at my local target or grocery store for under $20.

Oh, and it's your fave? A twist top, which I agree is a must. Thank you for calling us. We went out and got it. Rob with Scotto Scotto or Rosso? J sweet red.

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It was like hanging off the edge of the table. One and a gust of wind would have ended this all for us. Okay. The

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[00:03:10] Natalie McMillan: not going to Louis

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[00:03:18] Natalie McMillan: Cheers. I love anything. Sweet. It's a little

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It's a little bubbly. Oh, I wasn't expecting. I kind of was you were expecting

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[00:03:35] Natalie McMillan: I was picking the flavor, but not the, not the texture.

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[00:03:49] Natalie McMillan: say you were more a part of it. She was up here with the camera. She was getting all the different angles. She was, she was on the scene. Okay. So

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I didn't know. I didn't know about you. We learned something new every day. So, you know, I was holding Natalie's hand for a few rounds and then kind of had to sit out. I

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[00:04:13] Corinne Foxx: And that's okay. Yeah, but we were roller skiing. We're having fun. There's music playing. And then all of a sudden they're like everyone to the side woman goes down, she's down, she's down.

I'm like, okay. She twisted her ankle. It's fine. I pick her up. Yeah. And then she was down for a while.

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[00:04:35] Corinne Foxx: well, she's holding her leg and I'm thinking she twisted her ankle. And then all of a sudden the managing lights arrive and pick this woman up. And, uh, bring in a whole wheel direction, the stretcher, and there are people on the scene and I'm, I am listening to way too much true crime.

You guys. Cause I'm on this, I'm taking videos. I can't get enough. Hold on. They're moving. Or let me go up there. Like getting like sodas and like people were like, not really. And I'm like, oh, is anyone watching? I have videos on my phone and I feel really bad about it, but I couldn't control myself. And it was a crime scene.

It wasn't. And this woman got wheeled out of the roller skating rink. Right. But it was her arm. Her arm was like Dina in a sling. And it was so funny because it was this huge moment. And then she's getting wheeled down. Everyone's clapping for the paramedics, like yay. And then two seconds later they're like bah and everyone's like roller skating again.

They're like, yeah, let's go guys. I'm

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[00:05:38] Corinne Foxx: driving away and we're just like, oh yeah, let's start skating gang. I didn't have to set a path.

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So we watched this one girl go down. Then one of our friends, other friends that we hadn't met yet, she was like, well, I'm not going to skate because when I was in eighth grade, I snapped my shin in half and she was like, I am a little triggered being here. And then. Did Joe say like, oh yeah, I knew somebody.

And I told Joe

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[00:06:21] Natalie McMillan: but you are an

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'cause, you know, you try to catch yourself when you go down and then she's a snapped, both her wrists. So I'm like, I feel like this statistic, I will say that that paramedics came so quick. I know they're on call. I know it was like Saturday night, the manager came out the woman's side to form the paramedics came.

They had her out, the music went back on. They do that every night. It

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[00:07:10] Corinne Foxx: arrest?

Oh, we didn't arrest him. I

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[00:07:20] Corinne Foxx: have, if you want to go back to, oh, what episodes did we talk about? The SpongeBob thing and, oh, I have no idea. Oh God, wait, hold on. If you want to go back and listen to aging, joyfully aging episode 87 in the beginning, we talked about how Joe does not like SpongeBob.

And I was trying to ask you guys, is this a red flag? And we had a listener Kylie, right in and said, yes, girl.

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[00:08:03] Natalie McMillan: like, you can like

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[00:08:09] Natalie McMillan: but until then we've arrested him for

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He's under arrest until then until that. So let's get into today's episode, which is intuitive eating how to eat what you love. And we have dietician Sammy privets here today and, you know, we actually have. A bunch of Amies right in about nutrition and how we can properly feed ourselves as baby adults.

We've had people write in how do I, how do I eat? What do I eat? And think another am I asked about juice cleanses and like, they should do one. So. Uh, sensitive subject and we really wanted to make sure we brought in a true expert in the field for this episode. And we got our true expert. Yes. I found Sammy on tech talk, but she is way more accredited than just that.

So let's introduce Sammy.

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She specializes in individual nutritional coaching as well as grocery. Tours, corporate wellness and keynote speaking. She's also a certified personal trainer through the national academy of sports medicine, as well as a certified, intuitive eating counselor. She really enjoys working with all different populations.

Her favorite part about being a dietician is helping others create peace with food. Many people believe dieticians are the food police, and this is simple. Untrue. She believes that food was made to provide our bodies with nourishment and pleasure, and she treats each client with individualized care based on their specific needs.

And she actually has a whole team over at find food freedom, and they are very proud to say they do not support the 72 billion. With a B billion dollar diet industry, and they are completely rooted in intuitive eating and health at every size. And they believe all humans deserve fair, unbiased healthcare, regardless of the size of your body.

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hello, Sammy.

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[00:10:47] Sammy Previte: lady.

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[00:10:55] Sammy Previte: pregnant. Um, that's what I'm going to say. That it's connected to. Well, we'll go with that for today. I

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[00:11:04] Sammy Previte: Right? Thank you. Thank you so much.

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Like, what can we guide you through? And we've gotten a few people writing in like, how do I eat? How do I eat? Like, figure out how to eat as an adult. Like, you know, there's so many. Things that are influencing us in, in what we eat and how we eat. And so we were, I was on my tick talk and I was scrolling and I, and I found your page and I was like, oh my God, she's perfect.

One, you're so fun and relatable, but also you're a dietician. And you really know this field and you are definitely more of an expert about what to eat then us. Yeah. There's no amount

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[00:11:53] Corinne Foxx: exactly, exactly. But, but you specifically.

Speak about intuitive eating.

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Yeah. Yeah. What is it

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[00:12:30] Sammy Previte: So intuitive eating is a self care framework. It integrates instinct, emotion and rational thought. So it incorporates all of those three pieces. It was created by two dieticians back in 1995. So I did not create intuitive eating. It has been around for really, really long time.

Intuitive eating is weight inclusive evidence-based and it has validated assessment. So there's actually like a. A structure to it. I think a lot of times when people stumble upon it on social, they think it's just eat whatever you want whenever you want, you know, fuck

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Just, just the wording of it. You would assume the surprising that it, yeah, it has a structure it's actually, you know, founded by dieticians. There's actually like a method to Intuit diets.

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And I say again, because. We were all born into this world, trusting our bodies, but then we grow up in this $72 billion diet industry with the quick fixes and the pills and the supplements. And, you know, we're all raised by humans who have their own relationship with food. And there's just external disturbances that build a distrust with ourself.

So with intuitive eating, we help find that inner voice. Again, learn how to trust ourselves and be able to meet. Behavior changes that feel physically, mentally, and emotionally pleasant. It's really about coming home to your body. Again, kind of getting your life back to. Yeah,

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[00:14:27] Natalie McMillan: work.

It takes to be like, how many calories is this?

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[00:14:31] Natalie McMillan: so much of your brain capacity.

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[00:14:44] Sammy Previte: So the cool thing about intuitive eating is that all foods fit. So that means the fun foods, the play foods, which diet culture would call like crapper junk or cheat meals, air quotes, heavy air quotes over here.

So. Intuitive eating encompasses all of that food. And then it also encompasses nutrient dense foods, air quote, healthy foods as diet culture usually uses that term. So all foods fit with intuitive being. There's nothing that's off limits. So really an intuitive eating meal is anything it's truly anything in that moment that you're craving that you want.

That sounds good. That makes you feel pleasant in your body. But the difference, I would say. Is the intention behind the meal. So it's not necessarily what you're eating. It's the why behind what you're eating. So intuitive, eating the intention is to fuel your body. Listen to your hunger cues, give you energy because you enjoy it.

But a diet culture meal, the soul intention is how do I restrict myself, deprive myself, cut out in order to shrink my body. So when we see all of these diets out there, and now, unfortunately they're getting smarter and they're realizing people don't want to diet. So they're using this language that sounds like intuitive eating, but then the goal of their program.

It's to shrink the body. AKA restriction.

Yes, girls. I love it. We can go. Okay. If I can call out like companies. Oh yeah, no, we're, we're not, we all know. Oh my gosh. Oh, I feel so at home here, I have so many different videos. Fuck and all this shit, but anyways, can I hope I can swear my God. Okay. I very much so feel at home, but yes, so that, that is so problematic because so many people are looking to break free from dieting, but now it's more confusing than ever because before spotting diet culture was a little easier, but now it's getting more and more true.

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[00:17:15] Sammy Previte: Yeah, it wasn't. Unfortunately, until I was already a dietician practicing in private practice and I think it was. The cognitive dissonance that was coming up for me, that like, and the imposter syndrome of like, I hate my body. I have no idea what the fuck to eat yet. I'm sitting across from a table, like a table from someone trying to tell them what to eat.

This can't be right. And then I would help them. Air quotes, lose weight for, let's say weeks, maybe a few months. And then if they could overcome the guilt or shame, they would call me and be like, I need a reset. I failed. I'm a failure and this would happen over and over again. And I'm like, this is not right.

Like, this is not working. This is not helping anybody. And by. Um, recognizing how uncomfortable that was. I was still lucky enough to be exposed to intuitive eating and different eating disorder. Dieticians in my field were once I heard the intuitive eating message, I was like, oh my God, this is the magic answer I've been searching for because I went into the field as a dietician.

I think like most dieticians do one. They want to help people. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's a great intention, but to the majority of dietitians, struggle with disordered eating or eating disorders. So they're just going out and causing a bunch of harm thinking they're helping people. So I was very fortunate enough to learn from other colleagues about intuitive eating.

And then I realized, oh, the magic answer is that you shouldn't be focusing on weight loss. And it's like, I spent how many years of my life just chasing a smaller body and thinking my body was the problem.

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I thought. It's crazy that that's not the default. Yeah. The intuitive eating is not the diff I can't remember when I was little. I can't remember just being like, oh, I'm just gonna eat this for because I'm hungry. And that sounds good. It was always some sort of other thing happening, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

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[00:19:31] Natalie McMillan: we grew up in the nineties, you know, there was a million fad diets that were kind of obviously fad diets, but which ones are kind of happening now that you think are particularly dangerous that people should get away from. And maybe even some that aren't super obvious.

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This question it's hard. I would say, can I just say all, but, um, they all, because they're all a gateway. I mean, people that diet have the greatest risk of developing eating disorder. So I would say all, and, but if I had to pick. A few. I mean, we've already mentioned new and we might as well go there.

. And yet they're prescribing:

So I don't know how bad eight Watchers re-imagined. Yeah. So I think like that sticks out to me because like we said, they're being sneaky about it. Like they were calling themselves diet until December 31st. And then as soon as January one hit, they were calling themselves like the best weight loss program because they knew in January, everybody was looking for weight loss.

So I think. That is, is definitely where my head goes, but I also like to make it really clear to people when they hear me speak as a registered dietician, but more so as an intuitive eating counselor, that it's not our job to convince people not to diet. And I say this over and over on tech talk, like the people that we work with, they are at a point where they say.

Dieting doesn't work for me. I've been doing it for 5, 10, 20, 30 plus years. It has harmed my health, but I simply just don't know what to do next because my entire life's mission and purpose has been shrinking my body. So what the hell am I supposed to do now? So if anybody listening to this is dieting, right.

Is on nuMe is doing the keto diet or fasting. There's no guilt or shame in that. Like every single human I work with has dieted for like their entire life. And I think that we need that dieting experience to get to a place to say, This doesn't work. This has harmed me and we have the autonomy to choose.

Like, do I want to walk away from dieting? Or am I going to be fulfilled if 20 years from now I look back and say, I'm so happy that I didn't knew for 20. That is your decision. Right?

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[00:22:26] Natalie McMillan: Right. And I'm sure that when you're on the 12 years of new and you look at pictures of yourself and your, you could be tiny or whatever you want to be, and you you'd still look at yourself like, oh, I don't, I don't like how I look.

You know what I mean? More of your mindset

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Like food freedom. But if some of my colleagues, like I have colleagues that are in larger bodies and black say it, then they're like, you're promoting obesity and you're disgusting. And it's like, oh yeah, like what the fuck? So there's, you know, it's important to recognize that marginalized bodies can people in marginalized bodies can say the same thing as me.

And they are discriminated against, they are oppressed. So it's so much easier for me to say. And I think that's an important piece to pull into this conversation as well.

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And so I think it's really important that you pointed that out because that is a big piece in all of this too.

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[00:24:08] Corinne Foxx: like, like Lizzo gets that a lot.

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[00:24:15] Sammy Previte: than, you know, you know what I mean?

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And so my guy

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[00:24:38] Natalie McMillan: what's the difference? Or are they

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And that's not to count all of the people that never seek treatment. Right. Right. So yes, 75% of women are walking around with a fucked up relationship with food. So, and that's an, unfortunately we don't have a ton of research on men or non-binary. So, you know, not to leave them out because everybody has a relationship with food, but a lot of the research is on women.

But no, when we look at clinical diagnosed eating disorder, I mean, that's where we classically think of anorexia. Bulemia orthorexia. Those have some very, very serious self-harming behaviors and are very, very dangerous. And it's not that disordered, eating. Doesn't include self-harming behaviors, but it's a little bit easier to hide and it's a little more accepted.

And actually, if we think about it, disordered eating behaviors are praised in our culture. AKA noon, right? Tracking your calories. Maybe packing your food to go to a social event because there's not food that your air quotes allowed to eat. They're eating differently in front of others, like performative, eating, right, like eating the nutrient dense foods.

Not because you want it, but because people will think you're at air quotes, better human. Some of these things that. I think our are truly praised in our culture are disordered eating versus eating disorder. For example, bulemia is excessive amounts of food in a short amount of time, followed by vomiting, excessive exercise, excessive laxative use, really trying to rid your body of the food.

So those are some kind of different examples, but I would say. It's hard because disordered eating is becoming so much more common. And then of course, those who struggle with disordered eating are at a higher risk for eating disorder. So the line definitely does get gray sometimes.

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And so, you know, like everybody, we actually are gluten free, but you know, everyone has like a restriction and it's, it, it can feel sometimes like it's a cool kid thing to place a restriction on yourself, or when people are like, oh, you know, I'm this I'm that. And you know, you do wonder how much of that is disordered eating and how much of that is actually.

Necessary. Yeah. Especially out here, not to say that everybody's lying.

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[00:27:36] Corinne Foxx: guise of wellness, health, umbrella, umbrella, like you're going to

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[00:27:46] Corinne Foxx: was one thing that we had a listener write in about.

They, they were .

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There's so many things that we're lacking fiber, depending on the juices, if they're how they're processed. So. No, I do not support you,

but I will say that with intuitive eating, I think one of the big things people are misinformed about, like you're allowed to have food preferences, right? You're allowed to have, if you have a food allergy, right. Or if you have an intolerance, like you're allowed to make decisions around food. Because you genuinely want to, or because you genuinely feel more pleasant when you do that.

And I think a lot of times, but like you were saying Korean, like how much of that is actually a preference or how much are we pretending it's a preference. So it can be actually it's masked as a preference, but really it's a restrict.

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[00:29:10] Sammy Previte: allergy exactly.

To all food. Right. You all food

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[00:29:15] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. You kind of said earlier about how your upbringing affects your relationship with food. And I'm curious, like what. Beliefs can be picked up in childhood that kind of lasts throughout our adulthood. And how can we now as adults combat them and realize that we even have these negative beliefs to begin.

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Our parents were human. Right. And not to say that our relationships with food are solely dependent on our parents, but they are one of the biggest contributing factors to that. So recognizing that our parents have done the best that they could with the resources that they had and that they are human.

So recognizing for ourselves as we go into adulthood. What thoughts and beliefs do I have about food and writing those all down on a piece of paper and then identifying, okay. Where did these thoughts and beliefs come from? Did we hear mom saying this was this dad was this grandma. Was this a coach? Was this a mentor?

Was this a teacher? Was this not a person? And maybe it was 17 magazine. I, that might be a little, I might be dating myself here. Oh,

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[00:30:54] Natalie McMillan: something one time where I thought I was like 13 or something and it said that Jazelle was five 11 and 120 pounds. And I was 120 pounds at the time.

And I thought I just have to be

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[00:31:09] Natalie McMillan: And I'm five, four, and have been since then, I really thought.

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So it's recognizing what are the thoughts and beliefs we hold around food. And where did they come from? And really just building that awareness. First and then coming from a place of curiosity. So instead of judging or guilting ourselves for having these rules or following these rules, can we just get curious about them?

Where did they come from and recognizing that all thoughts? Affect our feelings, which then affect our behaviors. So of course, if we think, or have been told or believe that pizza is bad we'll then when we eat pizza, we are going to feel guilt or shame. So then when we look at our behaviors around pizza, it's probably going to look like a heck of a lot of restriction followed by bingeing, followed by restricting again, and then bingeing and recognize that.

That doesn't serve at us, but I rambled on there. So I would say just to make it more digestible for anyone listening, the first step is just awareness. You don't have to do anything with this, but just getting curious, where do my thoughts and beliefs about food?

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You're like, oh, that's not even my thought. Yeah. That doesn't even come from me.

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And it's, it's hard to, it's very pervasive

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[00:33:04] Corinne Foxx: hard to like,

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They're all caught up in all of that. How can they, what should they say? I guess, to their friends and family who have those kinds of beliefs.

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So. One of the first things I would say to anybody is release yourself of the responsibility of convincing everybody that they need to be an intuitive eater, because when you first get like woke to intuitive eating, you're like, everybody needs to know this and dieting sucks and all this stuff. And I know I did.

And I got burnt out real quick and I was like, whoa. Okay, no. So releasing yourself of that responsibility is huge. And then of course, like there's so much nuance to this because it totally depends on the person or the loved ones and how entrenched they are and how toxic they are, et cetera. But I think this is where boundaries.

You know, it was huge. I know you girls openly talk about going to therapy. So, you know, a lot of our clients work with a therapist in conjunction with our services, but whether it's creating actual physical distance from a person, like if you are really in the thick of your healing journey with food and body image, and you know that you get constantly triggered when you're around your aunt Sharon.

Well, maybe we try to create some physical distance from aunt Cheryl for, until we're at a better place and have a stronger foundation. So physical distance could be something, but if that's not an option, just depending on holidays or events or whatever, it's, role-playing. Kind of worst case scenarios before we get into those scenarios.

So that's a lot of what we do with clients is saying, okay, what is the absolute worst thing that aunt Cheryl could say to you? That's going to trigger you? What are you feeling and sensing in your body right now, what's coming up for you. And how can we work on responses that are going to serve you?

Because getting defensive about intuitive eating and trying to fight for it. A lot of times we walk away from those conversations. Defeated because that person was never reachable or teachable. So now we're just expanding our mental energy to try to convince someone of something they're never going to believe.

So really making sure that you have boundaries in place, you have kind of some idea of what you would say. If someone said something to you, but knowing that. It's not your responsibility. You do not have to convince people and just, that's going to look different for everybody, but doing the best you can to stay safe and just do what feels good for you.

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And you're right. It's tough. It's tough, especially when you're being triggered, you know,

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You will be triggered if you step outside of your house, right? Like diet culture is everywhere. So it's just a matter of building a toolkit. That's going to keep you safe.

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So I want to ask you, how do you work with your clients and what services do you offer?

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And I would say the best place to start if you're hearing this conversation today. And you're like, what the heck? I've never heard of any of. But I'm curious about it. Um, if they go to find food, freedom.net, there's a free beginner's training where we do one hour of really breaking down belief systems and educating on what intuitive eating is and what it isn't.

We do all sorts of coaching. So we have one-on-one coaching group coaching. We have a monthly membership, which is a great way to just connect with others that are on a food freedom journey. So we really have so many different options just depending on what people are looking for and they can find all of that at find food freedom though.

I think

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We can ask you a million, but we have to let you go. I just want to say, thank you so much, Sammy, for coming on here and speaking on this, I think this is going to be so helpful to a lot of our listeners who specifically wrote in for an episode like this. So we appreciate your time.

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[00:39:17] Sammy Previte: Thank you. This is our first and it has been a long journey to get here. So we are very, very

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[00:39:28] Natalie McMillan: Thank you. All right, bye. Bye. Bye

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[00:39:36] Natalie McMillan: I could talk to her for her.

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And we hope that you learn more about intuitive eating, finding food, freedom, and how to create a balanced, healthy relationship with eating. And you can always reach out to find food freedom. We'll have her linked in our show notes. If you guys want to start working with her or. A little one hour. She also has like the little beginners free little course.

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[00:40:21] Corinne Foxx: out. We love a course. We love a course. Okay. So not, should we circle back on the wine that our listeners suggested that read the risk Scotto Italia Gallia from our listener, Shelby. Shelby.

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[00:40:42] Corinne Foxx: I liked that. It is. Here's the thing. Shelby did not see the bottle lead us astray because it is very sweet.

Tastes like grape juice. Oh, I get it. What is

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[00:40:59] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. Yes. I didn't catch that. Yeah. It's like a sweet dessert wine. It's a little

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[00:41:07] Corinne Foxx: I think it's really fun. Like my mom, who doesn't like to drink and doesn't like the taste of alcohol, she would really like this because it's just like, like a sweet, bubbly, grape juice.

I feel like it's

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[00:41:19] Corinne Foxx: I could just put a straw on this and just

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[00:41:24] Corinne Foxx: You love grapes. This

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[00:41:30] Corinne Foxx: grapes. Okay. So let's introduce our Hottie of the week. Then we can rate it.

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Jennifer

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[00:41:46] Natalie McMillan: pizza there. She she's intuitive eating right there. That is

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And by the way, she looks in credit and she's always been really resistant to it. And she's like, I'm going to eat what I'm going to eat. And she was like, goes on red carpets and she's like, I'm starving. Yes. And let me say, I've been on a lot of red carpets and you were so hungry and those events are so long and they never have they little bite-size little and you're like, I need a meal.

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[00:42:13] Corinne Foxx: Uh, so for that reason, Jayla is our Hadi of the week. So one did Jayla, what are we thinking of this risk? Scott Gross. So Jay

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[00:42:27] Corinne Foxx: I like it. It is incredibly sweet. I was going to say it's

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[00:42:31] Corinne Foxx: almost, almost too sweet for me personally. I wouldn't give it. I

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I would just be chugging

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[00:42:59] Natalie McMillan: Yes, because we would love to try it.

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[00:43:17] Natalie McMillan: we just make it sound so terrible.

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[00:43:29] Natalie McMillan: don't know, you get on kicks. I don't think about it. Okay, well, one of them you did as a reason, obsession, I think true crime. Oh, that is a new obsession of yours. I

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[00:43:45] Natalie McMillan: what about salt lake city?

Um, Housewives,

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[00:43:59] Natalie McMillan: I feel like I also. I just, well, there's certain things that are so good that I'm like, oh my God, everybody has to know about this.

I'm like,

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[00:44:09] Natalie McMillan: I have, I'm very excited. You go, you

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Is it cake?

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[00:44:35] Corinne Foxx: worst show on earth. It is so bad, but basically the concept is there's baker. And then you have to decide if what they've baked is a cake or it's a real object and you're from far away. And so let's say, you know, they have a basketball or a purse or a little toy car.

You're like

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[00:45:01] Corinne Foxx: guess if it's cats? Yeah. So every episode there's a new judge that light there's three new judges that like kind of match the theme of the episode. Like for example, they did like a fashion episode. Karama was on. Okay. Um, and like he had to decide like, oh, is that a t-shirt or is it cake?

I, so, and I feel like the host is Mikey day is aware of how fucking ridiculous his show is. So he's like making fun of the show the whole time. Anyways, you guys, if you have absolutely. When I say you've watched everything else,

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Okay. You guys severance? Oh, I can't stop talking about it. Okay. I need to watch it. I can't even tell you when I ended it. I thought was that the best show I've ever seen? Oh my God,

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[00:45:57] Natalie McMillan: work, right.

But it's. Entertaining. Oh, it was entertaining. So entertaining. Whereas, so that's like a light, you can just like, watch that in the background severance, you need to have your phone down and you need to be eyes on the screen. Right. Cause if you miss two seconds of it, you're going to be like, huh. But. I'm going to say something controversial yet.

Brave what it's really up there for me with breaking bad and stranger things. Oh my God. I'm going to put it in the category of breaking bad and stranger things. Oh my God. It's on apple TV plus, which I don't have what? I steal it from our friend, Richard, Richard, who also

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[00:46:37] Natalie McMillan: login, their request to join the family.

Yeah, you have to start it. Okay. It's why yield.

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[00:46:48] Natalie McMillan: but you know what? Now that I finished severance, I don't know what to do with my life. So now I need to just guess if things are.

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[00:47:01] Natalie McMillan: we should put in a, a picture and have them guest if it's my God,

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[00:47:12] Natalie McMillan: cake. They're going to have to guess, and

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Cause it's easier to go on the Instagram story. So you guys can follow us on at, am I doing this right pod on Instagram and I'll be in the stories and I'll be an item and was going to be cake and you got to figure it out. Is it okay? Oh, and then we'll reveal it at the end. Like always, we will be back next week with another episode.

I love you guys love you so much.

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