In this interview, we delve into the practice and techniques of Rune Abo, a renowned muscle therapist from Norway. Personally, I have found relief from tension headaches, jaw pain, and back aches through Rune's one-minute exercises. Rune explains the importance of muscle contraction and lymphatic drainage in alleviating persistent pain. And he provides advice on how to counteract the negative effects of prolonged sitting and screen time, emphasizing the need for movement and fluid flow regulation in the body.

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In this talk, Rune mentioned a video that helps relieve sinus pressure. You can watch that video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXpBzIcImKQ

Speaker Links: 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/runeabo/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/runeabo/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PainfreeU

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rune%2D%C3%A5b%C3%B8%2D4b8a8032/

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If, like me and most mid career professionals, you sit down too

much and spend far too long on screens.

And that unnatural inactivity shows up in our bodies.

Stress headaches, recurring back pain, jaw aches.

If that's you, you need to know our next guest from Norway.

His name is Rune Abbo.

I've been obsessively following Rune since the beginning of the year.

After a long day of Zoom calls, I do two of his one minute

exercises and like magic, my jaw tension disappears instantly.

Let's dive in.

. Rune Abo: Hi, I am Rune Abo.

I am a muscle therapist and have my own practice and lymphatic

treatment and pain free you founder.

Fabulous!

I'm so excited to meet you, because I've been following your work for quite

some time, and more and more often I find myself dipping into your work

for some release of immediate pain.

But I'm so curious, can you tell me how and why you got into this kind of work?

Yeah.

Thank you.

It's a good question.

Because when I started like a personal trainer at first, I was starting to uh,

people have back pain and I needed to uh, how can we address the back pain?

And this is a good story because if you have back pain and people come to me with

back pain, they try to not use the back.

Oh, I have pain.

So I'm not using the back because it's painful to use it.

So I challenged them to say, okay, we have to.

make the muscle contract.

We need to make the muscle pump again, because when we use it and try to

activate the nerves, activate the muscles, they actually pumping the waste away.

If you have back pain, a muscle is overused and it will contract.

And that will block the lymphatic drainage, the waste drainage, and

it will pull on your hip, it will pull on your back, it pull on your

hamstring, your calves, everything because it will block the fluid flow.

So all this I understood when I was a personal trainer.

But it took too long to fix.

Five sessions later, the back was fine because we were

doing exercises for the back.

So I needed to learn faster.

How can I fix people faster?

And then I heard about a guru, a muscle therapist.

He fixed people, one treatment, two treatment and how?

And I asked went to him and watched him go and he fixed people in seven minutes.

What he did, he was opening up all the small passages in the body.

If you have tension in your head, like a tension headache.

In his world and now, my world is only unregulated fluid flow to your head.

So we need to address the fluid flow and how to regulate

the fluid flow to your head.

So many people have watched my videos like the drainage of the sinuses.

One of those videos have been watched over 100 million times

Oh, my god!

I gained so many followers on that video because it works.

Because if you have clogged sinuses it blocked the natural

drainage for your sinuses.

So by making the lymph node that I expanded smaller, you

will drain the sinuses normal.

Cool.

Because your muscles are pumping the lymph and the tissue fluid.

Huh?

It's quite nice.

Yeah.

So pain, you could say, in my world, in my research, I have

learned this lymphatic treatment.

Yeah, so I, over the last number of months that I have

known you, probably six months or so, I have become more and more obsessed

with your work and the work, the tiny little hacks, the tiny little tips,

but instantly, and I mean instantly, if I have a headache coming, or neck

strain, or even some jaw tension, I just do one of your videos and it releases.

I cannot believe how magical it is.

Does everybody have that level of instant relief?

but the problem is people not going deep enough.

No, not hard enough on a lymph node.

Maybe the masseter muscle is really contracted.

So they maybe need to go quite deep, quite hard to drain that muscle.

But the instant result is because of, if you have a garden house

and you have a knob on it, fluid doesn't go, you cannot use the house.

Yeah.

And same principle here.

So if you have tension to, to a headache in the front of your what is it called

Forehead.

Yes.

thinking Norwegian.

So when you have pressure in the front of your forehead it's in

my world, unregulated fluid flow.

And then I think, how can we drain that fluid flow?

How can we get that fluid flow onwards?

And then we can check the lymph nodes pressing here.

Is it swollen?

Oh yeah.

Mine is actually a little bit swollen.

So by draining that lymph node, it gets smaller and the tension because

expanded lymph node again, put some pressure on your blood and your nerves

and could actually add that pressure.

Okay.

Thank you.

Wow.

So everybody who's listening are likely to be mid career professionals.

And I'm going to generalize completely, but they often spend a lot of their time

sitting A lot of their time staring at screens or on Zoom or Teams meeting.

This seems to be a pattern that this is happening more and more.

What impact is that change of us becoming less and less

mobile on our day to day work?

What impact is that having on us?

A lot.

Because when you're sitting, your are not straight, or your muscles

are contracted on your hip muscles, your thigh muscles, but you have

to, you're not sitting up and down.

You're actually using the mouse, the keyboard.

And when you Put your arms in front of you.

If you have air between you and your elbow, if you have, I can

show you a little bit more here.

So if you have air between you and your elbow,

Yes.

then, or you have it in front of you sitting in front like this,

I put some pressure on my shoulder.

So I'm in front it's like a trebuchet, you know, all the power

comes from the shoulder blade, the shoulder muscle, the neck muscles.

So If I have too much air between me and the elbow, I will spend too much

overuse of the muscles in the neck, your shoulder blade, your shoulder.

So you wouldn't go to the gym and spend eight hours doing pull downs.

Exactly.

But that's what people are doing that because we need to work

with sitting on a computer.

So when we get pain, In shoulder blade on neck, we'll lean on the

other side and then the shoulder comes up and you get neck pain.

So we are compensating all the time.

We don't want pain.

So the body is a perfect machine to compensate.

Wow.

So what can we do?

So obviously when we have pain, we can release it and we can learn more about

lymphatic drainage and we can follow you.

But what else should we be doing as people who are stuck

at desks in front of screens?

What can we be doing?

Okay.

As a personal trainer and my own research treating 25, 000 people, I

can see we are overusing the muscles, but how can we drain the muscles?

And then I will jump right into the Tour de France cyclists.

What are they doing after they have been six hours on the

seats, like six hours at work?

What are you doing right after?

They are jumping on the bicycle again, and they are going slowly.

Why do you do that?

Because they are flushing the blood, they're flushing the tissue.

So they are ready for the next day.

Oh really?

if we are gonna learn something from them and how we can help

our body to heal or, um, get all the garbage we have produced, the waste

management, the waste drainage, we have to move, we have to move with slow

pace, like 60% of the maximum pulse.

So if you have 200 and maximum pulse, that would be not more

than 120 beats per minute.

For a long time or for a few minutes?

What?

I have tried a lot of things, but the least at least 15

minutes you have to do if you have less than that it will help the mind,

but not so much of on the drainage,

Okay.

So if we sit for eight hours, we've got to move for 50 minutes or more.

Yeah.

Five zero.

no, 15 minutes.

Oh, 15.

Only 15.

Oh gosh, that seems easy enough.

Yeah, but if you have gone on a walk, if you're tired

after work or something, if you go for a walk afterwards, you will

feel, ah, life is so much better.

I feel refreshed.

And that's because you have actually drained all the waste management and

you have cleared your brain for fluid and you have cleared your body and

the muscles are actually, pumping so that, that's my good award advice.

Move more.

'cause your muscle are the pump for your lymph lymphatic

system and your tissue fluid.

And so move more, feel less pain.

If you feel less pain.

Follow you on Instagram and feel immediately pain-free

in certain parts of the body.

Excellent.

Thank you so much for your time.

This

Ah, you're

wonderful.

If you enjoyed this, you might also enjoy my Life Satisfaction Assessment.

It's a 30 minute program where I guide you through a deep dive into 10 areas

of your life to assess what's bringing you joy and what's bringing you time.

I call it D.

It's a fabulous place to begin a joy at work redesign.