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And so I am, and I saw the funniest birth video. And we're going to talk about that in a minute. But today's guest is Emily Bozeman. Some of you guys may have seen her on Instagram or Tik Tok. And I'm super excited because she is also a fellow labor and delivery nurse. And a mama, and we're just going to chat about her experiences as both a labor nurse and a mama. 


So welcome, Emily. 


Emily: Hi, my first podcast. Very excited. Yeah. So 


Emily: So I became a nurse and I worked on med surge and my sister, she was a nurse three years before me and she just went right into labor and delivery, postpartum and then labor and delivery. 


And so we were sister units, like we worked, not sister units, we worked right next to each other. So I would go visit. And I never wanted to do labor and delivery. It just wasn't my passion. When I would visit her, I realized I love how I feel over here. I just loved, and then all the nurses were so close. 


And so a position came open and it was actually for days, which I'm a night nurse. And so I was like, Ooh, Oh, I don't think I can do it. I'm not a morning person. And then I just ended up doing it. And I loved it. And so then I stayed over there for the next 10 


Trish: years. I love that so much. And I knew you were a night nurse. 


Like I, I knew it. 


Emily: Yeah. I'm not a morning gal at all. 


And when you're doing travel, and I did it like a travel vacation, like I homeschooled and the kids went with me. Oh yeah. And we pretty much spent all that I made on doing fun stuff. It's a lot more fun when you are not tired and crabby. Oh, I 


Emily: wouldn't have been able to do that. Yeah. It was 


Trish: hard. Yeah. 


It was. But night shift, it's just such a better vibe. And so you don't deal with all the BS. 


Emily: You feel Yes, and you feel closer in a way, I don't know, cause you're so tired, you like, have to fight to stay awake and talk and bond. That oxytocin 


Trish: is flowing it, 


Emily: right? Yes. 


Trish: You feel so lovey. We used to have like the 3am like dance party and. 


It was so much fun. 


Emily: Trying to get over that hump. 


Emily: So if I had my family, cause I did night shift before kids, I would have to do day shift nights. If night shift is very hard when you have kiddos, it's just, it's exhausting. Like I wouldn't be able to do full time night 


Trish: shift. That's, I was just about to say the same thing. As a PRN nurse, a night shift is not bad because you can spread it out and honestly, what I did, I had a system. 


And then go. 


Emily: Go to bed that night. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot easier to do PRN, like night shift PRN. Yeah. I 


Trish: like it a lot. Okay. So you start as a labor and delivery nurse and it's funny that you said that it was never your thing because I truly believe either you are or you are not a labor and delivery nurse. 


And I've had some friends that have switched from whatever it is that they did, whatever specialty, and they are like, Oh my God, I hate labor and delivery. I am not cut of this cloth. Okay. 


Emily: Yes, I felt the opposite whenever I, because I know several people who were like, Oh, I just want to do postpartum only don't, I don't want to go near labor and delivery. 


Trish: I love it too. Like for sure. It's the only reason I went to school was to be a labor and delivery nurse, not a nurse, a labor and delivery nurse. 


And I did med search for a year because that's what. Everyone I knew that I respected that did labor and delivery were like, yeah, do med surge and I hated every stinking bed sore Colonostomy poopoo all of it. I hated it. I don't mind mama poop for you guys who are thinking. Oh god poop. I don't mind Childbirth poop. 


It's different. It's different. It's different. Sick poop is sick poop and it smells bad and it's not fun. And I don't like bed sores. It's 


Emily: just a different vibe. Yeah. Yeah. I 


Trish: do, I do love elderly people though. That part of it I loved because I worked night shift, of course, and I would sit and I would hear their stories and I loved that. 


Yeah. 


Trish: Yeah. Okay. So you're a labor and delivery nurse. So you became one before you had kids? Yes. Okay. Because I wondered when I saw the video, and for those of you guys, I'm going to link to the video. I'm going to repost it on Labor Nurse Mama, and I am going to link to this video because all I can hear in my head is my 


Emily: butt. 


My butthole. Yeah. 


Trish: But it's so true when you're unmedicated. Did you mean to be unmedicated? 


Emily: No, I did not. With my first? Oh, I to. We're going 


Trish: to rewind because I want to hear it. So obviously this is the birth experience with Labor Nurse Mama and we stinking love birth stories. I love birth stories myself. 


Emily: so the video that you're talking about is my second 


Trish: birth. I figured okay So tell us about your first though. I want to hear about your first. 


So 


Emily: my first I was working days at this time and I was 37 and four and I woke up on a Saturday morning and I was like, oh My cramps are different and I told my husband because we were remodeling our house and we weren't living there yet We were living with my parents and I was like Oh, I think I'm gonna have the baby. 


We don't live in our house. Oh, no. And I, and he's don't worry. So I labored all day, kind of 9 minutes apart. And when I left, one of my, nurse friends checked me and I was a 3. So then I went home that night and I took a PM to go to, cause I was like, I got up early. I'm just going to sleep good tonight. 


That was the stupidest thing I've ever done. So 


Emily: Extremely. So I woke up at 11. Someone actually butt dialed me and woke me up. 


And I realized, oh my gosh, I've been having contractions and they hurt. And 


Trish: should we call that person out? Should we call whoever it was out right now? 


Emily: She is so sweet. I don't even know if I've ever told her because I don't want to make her feel bad. But I was like... My sister, she's a labor and delivery nurse, she actually spent the night, and we slept in our old bedroom. 


And I labored all night. My sister checked me in the morning and I was only a 5. And it was like pretty excruciating back labor. And so I was pretty devastated that I was only a 5. But, I still was like, I have to go to the hospital. Went to the hospital, they gave me a dose of fentanyl. And I literally felt, I didn't even feel my next cervical exam. 


I loved that sentinel. I loved it so much. 


Trish: And people either love it, and it works fantastic, or they just... Don't love it or it doesn't work. Yeah. 


Emily: Yeah. I'm not, I can't take meds. Usually I get so sick. So I was terrified. I was able to take it and I couldn't wait for my next baby. So I could have sentinel again. 


I was like, but that's 


Trish: That's like me when I have surgery. I'm like, I love that feeling. 


I asked if I could sleep for another hour because I didn't want to start pushing until, baby was lower. And then I started pushing, I pushed for 15 minutes and she was 


Trish: out. Oh, see, I love it. Labor down. It's fantastic. But second time moms, it don't matter. You don't need to labor down. But first time mamas, I love laboring down so much. 


That's what I coach my students. I think it's so stupid to start pushing when the baby's still high. Such a waste of your energy. You're going to 


Emily: swell. Yes. Your energy. It's just, I always like when doctors would be like, Hey, go push that patient. I was like, I already talked to them and they said they want to wait and labor down because I was, really? 


Trish: No, I would just oh, she's nine. I think she's nine and a half now. She still has a lip. Can't push it. 


Emily: Yeah 


Baby's good. Let the baby passively move down. 


Emily: Yes, and I used to the doctors, they're impatient and they need to get back to the, their doctor's office. So they're like, let's do this. But they would always say actually, it's proven that laboring down is, and I'm like, where, one, where are those studies? 


And what is it? Because when you're pushing, that is a little bit traumatic too, it can be. Especially if baby's high and they're, 


Trish: yeah, and it's the most stressful time for the baby is during the pushing stage. If we can allow the baby to passively move down, it's not using up their oxygen reserve. 


It just makes so much sense. 


Emily: It's so much easier. Yes. Yeah. I love 


So I know that's what you do. And you said you do it because studies have shown, can you go print those studies for me? And then I tell my students, unless it's we need to send you to the, to L and D now asked to take it home, tell them, you're going to read it over with your partner and you'll come back at your next appointment because your emotions won't be kicked up. 


Yeah. And I tell them whatever they highlight, ignore, read the rest because they highlight what proves what they want, but they don't want you to read it. Yeah. You need the context. It's so stupid. Yeah. So I love that you said that. Okay. So then 


Emily: I knew with my next baby, I wanted fentanyl. My epidural, and it was just going to be, super smooth. 


Now this is where I've changed my views on things is cause I was like, yeah, just induce me, break my waters. Now I'm probably a little bit more on the, don't force it. Yeah. But I did force it in this case. So I went in and it was 3. 30. I was not in labor at all. I just had contractions here and there. 


She broke my water. This is why 


Trish: you looked so good. Yeah. Your hair and makeup looked so good. I got ready. Yes. 


Emily: I fixed up. Now 


Emily: That was, I checked that before I went. Yeah. And okay, my daughter was there. Crew, my first for my first was two and she was two years and four months. She was there, this was before all of the restrictions. So whenever, I have three sisters. We're all very close and labor days are like our most exciting days. 


You can hear in the video, everyone's there. 


Trish: I did hear a good group, but I didn't realize, I thought that was your nurses. 


Emily: No, some of them, but it was my sisters, my mom, my husband, nice. And my daughter left right before I delivered my two, cause I, I ended up going so fast. So I walked down to the cafeteria with my mom. 


I want to see it 


Trish: Do you have a clip of this? I've got to 


Emily: see. I do. I posted it. It literally was me pretending my stomach was a basketball and I was, like, bouncing it because I couldn't do anything else. I was in too much pain. And so I realized oh, I feel like I need to poop and I'm sitting on the toilet and I'm like, oh, like, all of a sudden it got real so fast and it was getting bizarrely real, I had back labor with crew, but this was just like all of a sudden I'm getting hit. It was like, it was just so intense. So I get in the bed and I asked for my dose of fentanyl. I'm so excited. It's going to work great. They give me fentanyl and I'm waiting for that first contraction. I'm high and I felt everything perfectly. 


And I'm like, Oh no. Please, no. No. And it didn't work. It didn't cut, it didn't control the pain at all. 


Emily: Nope. And it didn't. And so then I was like, okay, I need an epidural. So I, they were like, okay, he's going to come. They started my bolus. 


Trish: And no one checked you 


Emily: at this point? They did check. Okay. They were going to, I think they had checked me and I was like maybe a five. Okay. So now I'm really laboring, which in the video. 


I'm pushing at this point, so I'm a lot more controlled. I, on TikTok, have posted videos of me laboring. And because you're not pushing, pushing helps the pain so much. Because, 


Trish: because you have power. You have something you can do. 


Emily: Through your contraction. And during it, you're okay. In between contractions, you're okay. 


Ever again, like I'm holding onto the rail and I'm like, I want to, I 


Trish: want to, I want to watch this. This is okay. I got to repost this one too. Cause I love oh God, hold it. Holding onto the rail as a surefire universal sign baby is coming. 


Emily: And I had turned on my side and I thought it would help me feel better. 


And in this situation, cause usually back labor, when you're laboring on your back, it's the worst for me. I needed to be on my back and I got trapped on my side and I couldn't communicate. I need to be on my back again, and I couldn't get back on my back. I was just, I remember being like, oh my gosh, I'm in hell and I finally was able to get back on my back, and it helped so much. 


I don't know why, because usually it's it isn't the best position, but it did help me in this situation. 


Yeah. Because I was the same way with all of mine. I ended up in a wonky back position at some point. And then it's 


Emily: Yeah so then I'm asking for my epidural and then I said, I think it's time for another dose of fentanyl and my sister's I don't think it's time. And I'm like, go check. She's okay, I'll go out. 


So she goes and asks and they tell her it's been 30 minutes. You have to wait an hour. And I was just writhing. It was so intense, I was needing to push a baby out. He comes in to do the epidural, and right before, they checked me. Because I'm about to have the baby, and I was only a 5. 


And so I'm thinking, 'cause with my first one, I go very numb with my epidurals and even with my third help I didn't, nothing. Not a hint of anything, like no numbness, no tingling, no nothing. And so I'm trying to think, I don't even know if they ever gave me a full bullet. I don't know. Cause honestly, it's just bizarre. 


Like I should have felt something. And I have the video too, where she's I guess we don't need this. And then later when I'm pushing, I'm like, I don't want to get charged for that. Cause I didn't use it. Okay. And I'm pointing to the full bag of epidural fluid, and so I. 


Trish: Because you weren't prepared. 


Emily: I wasn't prepared at all. I didn't, I wasn't prepared at all. And I didn't realize how intense the pain would be. Yeah. I couldn't process it. 


It happened so fast. So I delivered at 647 and I, so I started at 330 and I delivered at 647. 


Trish: Yeah. I always tell my students that what they see in TV and movies like is not accurate unless It's an unmedicated patient who didn't mean to be. Yeah. Cause they are not prepared for it and as long as you're prepared, you will never look like what in the movies or on Emily's TikTok, but if you are prepared and you have a coping tools to pull out of your bag and you're ready and like mentally, this is coming, this is what it's going to be like, and here's how I'm going to cope and you want to. 


That's what you want. You can handle 


I can't even explain how, it was the most insane experience. I was like, holy 


Trish: cow. Yeah. I have very weird labor patterns, and I have given birth six times. My last few, I go from three to ten within minutes. They will check me, and I've been three, three, three, three, three, three, three, pushing baby out. 


Oh, wow. I have no middle ground. Yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible, especially if I have a new nurse who's not listening to me. Yeah, 


Emily: they don't believe in, because they're like there's no way you're a three. 


Emily: which is awesome. 


Sure word, but that was probably a few minutes are probably just the most So 


Trish: my last because I was induced because I was on Heparin, I was on love and oxygen and so I agreed to be an induced and I was, I leaned up and I said, if I am still three centimeters, I am going to kill you. And that is what my daughter remembers the most from my birth is me telling the midwife I was going to kill her. 


And sure as hell, I was three and I was like, I'm going to the bathroom. So I got up, went to the bathroom and then came back out, laid down and had him. 


Emily: You went complete on the way to the bathroom or, which is scary too. 


Trish: Yeah. Yeah. But I knew, like I knew in my brain, cause it had happened to me with my two previous births. 


Emily: touch with reality. 


Trish: I, with my daughter who was straight OP, I literally, and I had a brand new nurse. She was a new nursery nurse who. Was training she wasn't training. She had just come off of training. So she's by herself It would have been better had she had someone training her with her But she I every sign of an OP baby ever and this is my daughter 17 Started labor and delivery when she, in her first year. 


No, and you know how OP babies, I call them poopalicious births because if mama's got anything inside, it's coming out. It's pushing, squeezing them out. Yeah, so she would not let me go to the bathroom. And I was like, in so much pain, I didn't just go. So she brought in a bedside and I had to my worst nightmare in the whole world. 


And I, again, for you guys, I don't care if you poop, but I do care if I poop. Like my husband has to go, my husband has to go out of the bedroom, out of the upstairs, downstairs and outside. Yes! He's not going to hear me. See me nothing. They had me on a bedside doing big girl poo in a bedside toilet. Like I avoid that with my patients at all costs. 


Cause it's humiliating. 


Emily: I've never actually had a patient poop. It I'm like. I'll help you as best I can get to that 


anything. And she was like, you're too far for us to do IV narcotics. Like it's too close to delivery. And then I was like I want to epidural. And so she went to go and he was in the OR and they felt that she needed him more than I did, which I felt like. I need him way more than she needs him. 


Put her 


Emily: surgery on. 


Trish: Yes, exactly. And so I was so insanely angry that I remember looking around the room and I had just, I was going, I had already taken a position there. So I'd been there a couple of times in shadow, but I hadn't quite started, but I worked for the same hospital. And so I knew where they kept everything. 


Emily: Yeah. Then pushing her with the pain. Yeah. 


Trish: It's the worst pain in the world. And for years afterwards, if my patients, if I knew, and when they're babies wonky, yeah, or any wonky malposition, but Opie, my knees would go weak because I have so much drama from that situation. She was just a little hellcat. She tells me she's 17 now and she said of course I didn't want to come out looking at your. But 


Emily: that's great. Yeah. 


Thank you. You did it. 


Trish: You did it. But anyway, so you, on the other hand, all you were talking about was poop and butts. 


It does. I swore she was pushing my butt out 


Trish: Yeah, it's a bad feeling. 


Emily: It was so 


Trish: intense Yeah I love it so much. So tell me about baby number three. So 


Emily: I thought this was gonna be a huge baby. The only thing is I always check myself because I'm a labor and delivery nurse and I have to know, and so I'm like checking myself. 


It was so different. So I kept Telling them like, and then feeling baby, cause I would always do Leopold's and I would tell them, I think they, the baby's spine is with my spine and like baby's looking straight up. I couldn't find the body. It was just, and I was always really good at Leopold's figuring out their little position and I couldn't on myself. 


And then because we had the switch with our women's unit centers. I couldn't really just check on it. It was really hard to get an appointment. I called and I said, Hey, I need to schedule my, I was 36 weeks. I need to schedule an appointment for my GBS swab. And they said we can get you in at the end of July. 


And I'm like, my date is due. The middle of July, like what? I'm 36 weeks right now. Yeah, 


Trish: Why would I do that exactly? It was 


I was pumping as well. And I was just so excited let's do this. Around 9 p. m., I think it was 9 My water broke and Baby was still so high. It was just so weird. When my water broke, that's when I realized oh I had a ton of fluid and I have a video of that on tik tok too because my sister was filming me sitting on the Toilet and you just hear It sounded like a waterfall for probably 20 minutes. 


I really didn't want one, but I The person who was on call that night didn't have the best reputation and I had a friend who said he would come in it was 4th of July weekend and he has two little kids and so I couldn't call him at 4 in the morning So I was like so torn and I didn't want one, but I also was like, if I really need one, I was just I just did it and I regret doing that, but I also, I don't know, because it didn't work out great. 


And it was a lot of work because I couldn't help very much. My legs were so numb. And then in the morning, he came in, checked me and I made no change. I was a four and I was like, what? And so I'm like, we're going to keep doing this because 


Trish: Set number three, they always throw you for a loop. 


Yeah. 


Emily: Like it was, I was like, what? And C section wasn't even in my mind. Like I'm a labor and delivery nurse. I work people through this all the time. But for me. I didn't even consider that. I did. And then he checked me a little while later, a few hours later, and I, he felt baby's face. Oh, God. 


Trish: it a straight face presentation? 


Emily: I asked him if he would allow me since I was really high still to try to get baby to reposition because it wasn't like baby was engaged in the pelvis. 


And he said, yes. Yeah. So for, we looked up stuff, me and my day nurse and she helped me, which they had given me Benadryl. And that was also a big mistake, because for a normal person, they get sleepy, for me, I became comatose, and so she had to move me and Jake, and they would have to hold me in position, because I just was dead to the world physically. 


Trish: Yeah, no. Cause I feel like they would have taken you right to the OR, but she wasn't engaged. 


She wasn't 


Emily: engaged, or he. We found out he. So we ended up doing the c section and I was bleeding a lot too, like a ton. And so my family was really stressed because they're seeing all the bleeding. I wasn't that worried about it, but they were like hyperventilating because they're down there just seeing. 


So much for some reason my I was bleeding a lot and but baby always looked fine So I ended up doing the c section and whenever he did it when he cut through which he did my incision really low My placenta had attached right there where he cut through so he and so I'm wondering if that's why Baby couldn't get in position. 


His 


Trish: ability. Yeah. Interesting. It 


Emily: was a really awful. I was so sick during the procedure, I was shaking so severely, I had muscle cramps for days. And then I ended up getting a spinal headache. I know, because they did a spinal as well. Because I could feel on my abdomen on the right side, so I knew my legs were numb and I couldn't feel contractions, but I would be able to feel that. 


Trish: That's what I've heard. Yeah. I've heard that it's pretty instantaneous. 


Emily: It was and I thought I told Jake because he thought I was having a he thought I was gonna die I thought I might too. I was like, I'm gonna have to leave him with the kids and I said if this doesn't work I am NOT leaving this hospital until I get a CET because something is wrong with my brain like so bad Yeah, 


Trish: and then it worked Thank God. 


I had a patient who got a spinal headache during labor from her Yeah, and it was like I've never had that happen before it was awful I felt so bad. I was almost crying with her. I felt so bad. It was insane. Do 


Emily: you stress to push and then you're leaking that fluid? 


Trish: This was before she even started pushing. 


Emily: was awful. Knowing what I know now with how bad the pain is, I think I would have to have them. I don't know. It would be brutal. 


Trish: It was terrible. 


Yeah, it was terrible. So you, the nurse curse hit you. It 


Emily: did. It sure did. All of us, we talked about it. Every nurse in our unit, I think has had to go for an emergent type C section. One of their babies. I didn't know that. It's crazy, right? Yeah. Now I do. 


Trish: Yeah. Now you know. So I love a couple of things I wanted to ask you just because you have a unique perceptive or perception of being a labor nurse and a mama. 


Emily: It will be over and you will have a baby in your arms. So just hang on to the fact that no matter how excruciating the pain is progress and you're gonna have a baby at the end of it. 


So you just have to look at the And you can't stop, you've got to do it you just got to do it, but it's a reward like you've never experienced, a juicy little fat baby in your arms or a little bird like baby, whatever you have, it's a reward. And honestly, I, all of the tips I give my patients went out the window whenever I was experiencing it. 


I can't even, I'm trying to think of what helped me. 


Trish: Did you have any breathing techniques you tried or any coping techniques or were you just insanely out of it? 


I moaned a lot. I prayed. I was like, God, please please, 


Trish: I love the moan though, cause that low guttural moan will help open up your cervix and everything. So that's good. That's a good coping tool. 


Emily: I did a lot of the guttural moans. Yeah. I did. 


Trish: So my tip to moms is I tell them to always have a plan B when it comes to their pain management plan because you and I both know epidurals are not guaranteed. 


They, people think that their plan is as soon as I feel something, I'm getting epidural, but what if there's a line of mamas ahead of you? Or what if they have someone cut open in the OR and they don't want to come and prioritize you, happened to me, or they get a hot spot, or it doesn't work at all. 


Emily: you're screwed. Because if it doesn't work, you're going to be very 


Trish: unprepared. And it's insane. I do think that the most insane thing is for a mom who's not prepared for unmedicated who goes unmedicated. 


Yeah. It's not a good situation. 


Emily: Yeah. And that was me. I will say though, the high I get from labor, I get a major high and so I am excited for the pain and everything like all of it used to excite me until the third baby. Now I'm a little bit terrified because I had the C section and I'm just scared more. 


Are we 


Trish: having another baby, 


Emily: you think? Yes. I want two more and I've already talked to everybody about doing a V back and I do not want a needle near my spine because if you have a epidural spinal headache or I can't remember spinal leak. What's the term? I forgot. 


Trish: Subdural. That's okay. That we don't need. 


Emily: Yeah, you'll, you're prone to having another one. 


Trish: Yeah. And you don't want to ever go near that again. 


Emily: Yeah. So I do want 


Trish: more. So you know that we have the VBAC lab, right? One of my birth classes. I have two birth classes, calm labor, confident birth, which is for everyone. 


And then the VBAC lab, which is for mamas like you who have had a cesarean. No, I 


Emily: didn't know that. 


Trish: Yeah, so we have, I have an incredible community of VBAC Mamas in, inside my birth classes. 


Emily: Yeah. Oh, I'm going to have to do it. 


Trish: Yeah, it's a great class. It's totally, everything about it is infused and geared towards VBAC Moms because a lot, now you're going to be a little different because you're not worried about standing up to providers, I'm sure. 


According to ACOG. Huh. And it's really insane why so many people get so much backlash about that decision. I don't 


Emily: know. Especially when the people who are giving backlash are okay with the risks of inducing just for fun. Yeah. And it's look at what ends in a C section, 


Trish: yeah. And according to studies, A repeat cesarean carries a lot more risks if you are a safe candidate for a VBAC. 


Yes. 


Emily: Yeah, cause that's my plan I want to so bad, and so I'm gonna, I didn't know that's awesome. 


Trish: Yeah it was so nice to have you here today, and thank you so much for coming on and sharing. 


Emily: It was fun! I've never been on a podcast, 


Trish: I loved it. You are no longer a podcast virgin. It's done. 


Was it, was that good for you? 


Emily: Yeah, it was really nice. I really, thank you. Awesome. 


Trish: It, tell everyone where they can find you. 


Emily: So just Emily Bozeman is my, on TikTok, on Instagram. I used to have a blog. But I'm not a good blogger, so it's gone. And that's pretty much. You're not a faithful blogger. 


And then I do, did homeschool stuff on YouTube, which I haven't been doing since I got pregnant. I had hyperemesis gravidarum. We need to touch on that one day. Yeah. And so I stopped all of that, but mainly Instagram and TikTok, Emily Bozeman. 


Emily: Yeah, he beat me up. He really. Yeah. He really. 


Trish: Yeah. Oh gosh. I can't imagine. Yeah, we definitely need to do an episode on that because, oh gosh, I just feel so sorry for mamas who have to go through that. 


Emily: It was crazy. It's terrible. It gave me all these experiences. Thank you so much for having me. 


Trish: Thank you so much for coming and I will link to Emily's information and watch out for these videos because now I'm going to go stalk you and repost some of these videos because there's just nothing like 


Emily: real birth. 


I have them all. Yes. Yes. 


Trish: I love it. Thank you so much for today. 


Emily: Thank you.