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To Centralize or not to Centralize .. That is the Question!
Episode 715th September 2021 • Generation Bitcoin • McIntosh
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In today's podcast we talk about the differences between centralized and decentralized exchanges as well as some news items.

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Hey everybody.

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The one on this podcast is a financial advisor.

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All information presented on this podcast

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is for informational purposes only.

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Now that we have the legal stuff out of the way,

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let's jump on in.

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Welcome to the Generational Wealth

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with Cryptocurrency podcast.

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I'm your host, McIntosh.

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And today we're going to be talking about

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how do you buy crypto?

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So these last few weeks,

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we've been talking a lot about crypto.

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And one of the things that I have pretty much avoided

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is how do you actually buy it?

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Because I wanted to give the listeners

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some basic knowledge about crypto

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before they truly think about investing.

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Understand with crypto, as with any investment,

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of course there's risk.

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The cryptocurrency market can be quite wild at times.

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We've discussed this.

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But that being said,

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there are obviously lots of people who are choosing

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to invest in crypto.

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Again, just as a brief recap of my theories on this,

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I would recommend that you,

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if you're going to invest in crypto,

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that you really look at it over the long term.

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We're not trying to make a quick buck here.

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We're looking at five to 10 years down the road.

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So where do we buy our crypto?

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Well, there's a number of options.

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So there are two main categories

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of places that you can buy crypto.

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These places are called exchanges.

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And the choices are,

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you can either buy it

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from what's called a centralized exchange,

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or you can buy it from a decentralized exchange.

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What do I mean by that?

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Well, with a centralized exchange,

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you have a company who sets up a business,

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who their business is to provide this exchange service.

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They charge fees for that as part of that,

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and that's how they operate.

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An example of this certainly would be

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probably the most prominent one at this point

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would be Coinbase,

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a company that actually just recently went public.

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They were valued at quite a bit.

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And Coinbase has been around for a long time.

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I believe I bought my first coin from Coinbase.

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I looked back at my transactions on Coinbase,

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and I go back to 2014.

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I don't think I'd bought anything before then.

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So anyways, they've certainly been around for a while.

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Solid company, going public,

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I do believe ultimately is going to be

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very beneficial for them.

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So anyways, they're certainly one of the candidates.

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Another one would be Kraken.

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Kraken is a company that's based out of San Francisco,

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if I'm not mistaken, another large centralized exchange.

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And then you've got places like Binance,

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and Bybit, Polonex, I believe is still around.

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So Gemini is another one.

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These centralized exchanges to an extent can come and go.

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If they're early in their history,

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I would be a little bit suspicious of them,

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not that I would necessarily assume

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that they're being malicious,

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but they have growing pains sometimes.

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As an example, I think I was looking,

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well, I was cleaning out my passwords.

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I move into a new computer,

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and I found a account on an exchange called Liqui.io,

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something like that, almost like liquid, but it's not.

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And I had made an account on there at one point

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to buy some currency that was not available

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on the bigger exchanges at that point.

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And I made my purchase and eventually sold that

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or moved it off, moved it to another exchange or whatever.

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But the reality is that exchange is no longer around.

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I actually went to their website and it's gone.

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And to be honest, I don't even know why.

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I don't remember, I haven't looked it up.

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One very famous example of a crypto,

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of a centralized exchange having a serious issue

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was Mt. Gox, which was one of the oldest crypto exchanges.

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It was certainly at a point in time,

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it was the world's largest crypto exchange.

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And unfortunately, it had about 850,000 Bitcoin

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were stolen, hacked from their website,

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from their network really.

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And I do remember that I actually had some money

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on Mt. Gox, not a huge amount.

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At the time, I didn't really have a very large amount

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in crypto at all.

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And eventually I recovered some percentage of it.

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They were required to pay back that.

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And I didn't get all of it, like 80% or something.

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But of course, I also lost the opportunity cost

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because it was months later,

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it was probably six months later or something

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that I got that back.

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It may have even been longer than that.

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I don't know, it's been quite a while.

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So these are things that you have to keep in mind.

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We're gonna come back in just a minute

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to how you keep yourself safe,

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because that's a very important topic

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when we're talking about this.

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But we're gonna talk about decentralized exchanges first.

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With decentralized exchanges,

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they're a smart contract running on a network,

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typically Ethereum.

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So they don't, it's not the same experience.

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They do tend to do better during massive spikes.

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When you have, when the price of a coin jumps a huge amount,

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it may swamp a site.

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They may swamp a centralized exchange, okay?

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The decentralized exchanges certainly recently

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have done much better during these large run-ups

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in Bitcoin and Ethereum pricing.

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So there's other benefit.

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You are more in control of what's going on.

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Something that you fundamentally need to understand,

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a centralized exchange is very easy to think of.

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It's like a bank.

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You go to the bank, you put your money in.

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Now, you can trade that money

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and do other things with it once it's in there,

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but you are going to the bank

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and you are taking that money

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and you're placing it with them.

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And they will tell you that money's yours,

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but the reality is they basically have an IOU

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that they hold and that money is not yours.

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They don't keep, let's say I deposited $20,000 in my bank.

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That money's not gonna sit in there safe

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until I withdraw it.

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They're gonna do things with it.

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And with a centralized exchange,

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you don't own that crypto once you send it to that address.

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Now, you may have a login and a password

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and a wallet on that centralized exchange,

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like your bank account,

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but the reality is you don't control it.

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You don't own it.

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Now, with the decentralized exchange,

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you're a lot more in control.

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You're taking it from your personal wallet

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and you're typically using it to swap for something else.

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It goes from your wallet to the smart contract to the swap,

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and then you take the coins that you get back

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and they go into your wallet.

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So as long as you're managing that wallet properly,

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that seems a very safe system and it certainly can be.

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Now, in just a minute, I'll describe an issue

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with decentralized exchanges

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that a centralized exchange doesn't have,

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but you can see certainly that that's a difference.

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Now, my recommendation would be

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don't put all your eggs in one basket.

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Now, when you're just getting started,

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you're not gonna wanna have multiple accounts

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on multiple exchanges and things all over the place.

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If you're only investing a couple hundred dollars

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or a thousand dollars, I wouldn't worry about that too much.

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I would go with a reputable exchange, Coinbase, Kraken,

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and I am not getting any benefit from saying this.

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I actually have accounts on both of them

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and use them for trading.

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I use them for holding my crypto, some of my crypto,

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but I don't keep everything all in one place.

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I don't wanna get in a situation like Mt. Gox

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where they were shut down for quite a while,

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and I lost, like I said, I lost some money there

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that wasn't returned.

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The percent that I got back

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wasn't returned for months and months.

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I don't want all my stuff in one place for that,

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especially as my stash gets larger, okay?

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So that's something you should think about.

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If you're serious about this

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and you're getting a good stack,

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you probably want to invest in,

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you wanna manage some of your coin in a software wallet,

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like Metamask, or even a hardware wallet,

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which is a little hardware device

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that you can literally store your coins on.

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In a digital representation, of course,

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they're not physical,

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but they're stored digitally on that little hardware,

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they're stored digitally on that little hardware box.

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So you can throw that in a safe,

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and only you know the passwords,

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and you're good to go.

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There's no way you could be hacked

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if your money were in cold storage like that.

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It's just not gonna happen.

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You may lose the password,

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the device may burn up in a fire, I suppose,

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and those are things you even need to think about

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as you go through this process.

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Certainly the password's fairly easy.

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You might wanna keep the password

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in a couple of different places.

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Offline, not online, but don't rely on your memory,

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because five years from now,

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you may not remember that password.

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And what you have stored in there

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may be worth a lot of money,

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and you have no way of getting it out.

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Certainly with fire, again,

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if you really are getting a good amount of money

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and you treat it like cash,

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would you keep $10,000 in cash

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sitting on a shelf in your house?

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Probably not.

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You're not gonna leave $10,000 on a shelf.

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You're gonna put it in a safe,

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and that safe's probably gonna be a fireproof safe,

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and maybe it's rated for a few hours.

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Again, you may wanna split things up.

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You may wanna put part of your money

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in one hardware wallet that you keep at home,

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and one in a safety deposit box.

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It's all relative, and it depends on the amount of money

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that you actually are managing, okay?

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One key difference, this just came to me,

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and I wanna emphasize this.

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We could do a whole podcast about this, but I won't.

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One key difference between managing this,

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managing your crypto, and managing, say, a 401k,

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or money in the bank.

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You manage your money.

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It's your money.

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It's your crypto.

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Nobody else does.

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It's not really Coinbase's.

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You're giving that management over to them

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when you allow Coinbase to hold that money,

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but when you have it in your wallet, you manage it.

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So that makes it safer,

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but then you need to think about things like passwords.

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You need to think about things like,

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what happens if my house burns down?

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Because statistically, there's a percentage of houses

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that catch fire, and they burn,

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and you don't wanna lose your hardware wallet

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because of that.

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So these are good problems

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if you're thinking about these things, and don't panic.

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It's okay.

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Start small, build into it.

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There's plenty of time to figure out

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hardware wallets and things like that.

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Even if you said, oh, I've done all my research,

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I'm all in on crypto,

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and I wanna put 10% of my savings in crypto,

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and you've got a significant amount of money,

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and that 10% is tens of thousands of dollars, maybe.

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I would not recommend, even in that case,

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that you just take tens of thousands of dollars

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and just go out and buy a bunch of crypto.

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Don't do it.

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Ease yourself into it.

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Figure it out.

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There's a lot to learn here,

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and you can't learn it all in a day or a week.

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It's going to take some time,

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and it means you may lose some money.

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Not lose money, it may mean you lose some opportunity costs

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because you didn't put it all in,

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but you're saving yourself from potential disaster

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because you made the wrong choice.

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Oh, and I went and bought, oh, I don't know,

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not to pick on anything, but Dogecoin,

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and it went down.

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I bought it at the peak, and it went down.

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Now it's down to a quarter,

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and my money went in half, and it may never go back up.

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Now what?

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Well, you shouldn't have invested completely in Dogecoin.

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So anyways, I think that's probably enough about that.

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So you've got centralized exchanges.

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I've listed a number of them.

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You've got decentralized exchanges.

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I did want to go through a few of those.

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I was actually looking at a list here on CoinMarketCap.

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I've mentioned this site a few times.

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It has a list of top crypto decentralized exchanges,

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and it's very interesting because the top one, two, three,

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four, the top four decentralized exchanges

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actually are half the market share, almost exactly,

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and these are not small volumes.

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I'm going to read these out to you.

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You may have never heard of these.

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That's okay.

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You may have heard of them.

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DYDX is actually number one right now.

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Its 24-hour volume was $800 million, almost a billion dollars.

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Uniswap, version three, 800, just under 800,

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799, 988 million dollars, so it's right under DYDX.

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PancakeSwap, $718 million, and then one-inch liquidity,

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which there's two entries for it,

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one that's called a liquidity protocol,

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and one that's an actual exchange.

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Together, they're about 600, I can't do,

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675 million, roughly, so they make up the top four.

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There's others, SushiSwap, you may have heard of.

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I, most of these you probably wouldn't have heard of.

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Believe it or not, it's actually not very difficult

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to build an exchange like this.

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The trick is creating the, kind of the marketing opportunity.

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The early ones, like Uniswap, for example,

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was a very early one.

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They had a big advantage.

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So these decentralized exchanges, like I said,

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you're doing a wallet-to-wallet transaction almost.

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There's a smart contract involved.

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Of course, that's the whole point.

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So you're taking your money, oh, I've got 10 ETH,

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and I'm gonna trade you for,

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I don't even know what the ratio would be,

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but let's say half a Bitcoin.

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I'm sure that's not even close to being correct,

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but 10 ETH for half a Bitcoin, and we do that.

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And there's fees that are paid for the network,

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and your money goes from your wallet to their wallet,

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and from their wallet to your wallet.

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And that's all managed by that smart contract.

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Now, I mentioned there is a drawback.

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It's very easy to put coins on this, and it's interesting.

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There's a new meme coin,

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and I've not done an episode on meme coins,

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but things like Dogecoin, Shiba Inu.

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Well, there's a new one called Flokey.

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It's only been around since June.

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And apparently Elon Musk has latched onto it.

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So it's had a huge spike in the last little bit.

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The thing about Flokey at this point,

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and this is very, very typical, coins don't just,

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well, it's not on a centralized exchange.

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Let me say that so that you'll understand why,

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what's going on.

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Flokey's not on a centralized exchange,

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and that's very typical for a new token.

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They don't just pop up on an exchange.

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So they're all done through PancakeSwap

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and some of these other exchanges,

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these decentralized exchanges.

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The thing is, it's very easy to make one token

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look like another token.

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You say, well, that's crazy,

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but a name on a token is just a name.

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And a reputation, it's very easy to create a clone,

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essentially, and then somebody, an anonymous wallet,

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can simply sell those coins on a decentralized exchange

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to someone who's thinking that they're getting

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another token.

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There will be differences and you have to be very careful.

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But it is possible, and it certainly happened with Flokey

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where some people got scammed.

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You hear a lot about scams in crypto,

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a lot of it is because of a lack of information.

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So if you don't understand something, stop.

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Just don't do it.

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In the case of a token like this,

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you can go to the website of the originator,

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the Flokey token.

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I don't recall offhand what it is.

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I'll look it up real quick.

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I'm definitely not recommending

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that you invest in this token.

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I'm just using this to help you understand

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and I'm just using this as an example.

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This is not investment advice in case you didn't get,

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in case you didn't get the hint.

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If I'm not mistaken, the website is theflokeyinu.com.

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So it's a play on Shiba Inu or whatever.

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It's called Flokey Inu, I don't know.

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I guess apparently that's the name of Elon Musk's Shiba Inu.

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Elon Musk apparently actually has a Shiba Inu

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and I'm probably butchering that name, but regardless,

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and its name is Flokey Inu.

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So somebody said, oh, I'm gonna run with that.

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They created a Flokey token

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and then somehow he's got involved.

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And if you know the real owner,

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you can find out the contract, the originating contract,

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and then you can actually look that up

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and make sure that you're doing it correctly

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when you're doing an exchange like that.

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You have to be careful.

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People do get scammed.

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So again, this is just a warning.

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Now, I don't know what Flokey Inu is gonna do.

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They've got lots of things going on here.

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They're way too early for people

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to be seriously investing in them.

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If you're moving into this,

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don't go out and buy Flokey thinking it's gonna moon.

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It may, most likely it won't.

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Most crypto coins don't.

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It does not have a proven track record.

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But they have a roadmap.

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Apparently they're partnering up with Elon Musk's brother

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to do this charity thing about real,

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it's something about gardening,

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which I actually find interesting.

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But anyways, and they've got a game that they're working on.

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So if they pull it off, it may go very, very well.

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Six months from now, you may be going Flokey who?

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Isn't he like some Norse God?

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I don't know.

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So who knows?

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But the point is you could very easily get scammed

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trying to buy this coin on a decentralized exchange

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if you're not careful and know what you're doing.

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Now, that's one reason you would buy from a central exchange

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because they're not gonna put a scam coin on their website.

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It would hurt their reputation tremendously.

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A decentralized exchange by its very nature,

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they don't have control over that.

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You don't understand how a decentralized exchange works

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if you're saying, well, why do they even allow that?

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There's not a real good way to manage that.

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So you just have to be careful, verify what you're doing.

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So anyways, enough about that.

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You can choose to use what you want.

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Typically for people, they're gonna start

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with a centralized exchange.

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And that's what I would recommend.

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Long-term, that may not be what you do for various reasons,

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including worried about the central exchange being hacked.

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Maybe you want tokens that aren't available

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on that central exchange or whatever.

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All right, so that's gonna wrap it up on our exchanges.

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What do you actually do on an exchange?

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It's pretty straightforward.

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You go set up an account.

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You're gonna need to fund that account.

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You do that by hooking.

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If you're on a centralized exchange,

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you're gonna hook that up to your bank account

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or a credit card.

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And that's how you go out and buy your ETH

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or your Bitcoin or ADA or whatever.

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So decentralized exchanges,

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you already have to have that in there.

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So that's a bit of a trick.

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You may end up going through a centralized exchange

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to start with anyways, if just to get the tokens

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that you begin with.

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Another small category of ways of buying crypto.

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You can actually buy crypto with PayPal now.

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You can go buy BTC with PayPal.

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I actually think that's pretty cool.

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Now, I would tell you might not be how you wanna do it

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because you can't get that Bitcoin off of PayPal

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at this point, which I don't think

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is a long-term plan of theirs.

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They have to, they're not,

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I just don't think they built that feature in.

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Maybe you've got a big PayPal account

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that you've sold comic books or baseball cards

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or something and you collected your money with PayPal

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and now you wanna buy crypto with it.

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I don't know.

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You've got that option.

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Robinhood is another way of doing it.

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There's other various little things like that,

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ways of doing that that don't neatly fall

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into a centralized exchange or decentralized exchange

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that we've been talking about.

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But certainly these exchanges are the most common way

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of getting your crypto.

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All right, we're gonna shift gears.

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We're gonna go to the news for the week.

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So we're gonna talk about two new items

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and then we're actually gonna talk about El Salvador

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for just a minute, a little update on things

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that are cooking down there.

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So first of all, I did wanna say congratulations

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to the Cardano team.

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They did have a successful upgrade.

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Last episode was right before the upgrade

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and I said I wasn't sure how it was gonna go.

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Well, Sunday, two, three days ago at this point,

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they pulled it off.

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As far as I can tell, it went without a hitch.

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Now, remember what I said, don't buy into ADA.

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Well, I said don't buy into ADA right now

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because of all this upgrade and that kind of thing.

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The price of ADA has been going down and it still is.

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I don't truly understand at this point why

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since it's been live for three days without any issues.

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I would have thought any price drop

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would have reversed by now.

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But as of today, it's still going down, no big deal.

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Long-term, we'll see what the Cardano team can do,

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what developers on the Cardano network can do

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with smart contracts.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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I think competition is great in this space.

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I think we should welcome it.

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What's the other news item?

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The Ukraine.

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The Ukraine has legalized crypto and crypto operations

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in a almost unanimous vote.

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The parliament adopted a law that both legalizes

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and regulates crypto.

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So they're starting to build a framework.

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They're starting to build a framework

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on how to work with crypto.

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And you're gonna see all these countries doing this,

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whether they choose to make it legal tender

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like El Salvador did or not,

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they're going to be passing laws over the next few years

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to both legalize it and regulate it.

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And that way, in the countries

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that are going down this route, they can tax it.

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They can look at it from that aspect.

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From other places, it's just to provide

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that regulatory framework.

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So there's that.

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El Salvador, I wanted to give an update on this.

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If you recall, I thought it was very interesting.

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So El Salvador has been,

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I think it's been right about a week

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since El Salvador has actually, the law was passed.

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So let's see, this was published on the 14th.

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So that was yesterday on Tuesday.

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And yes, so it was roughly a week ago.

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So about a week ago, El Salvador passed their law.

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If you remember when we were discussing El Salvador,

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I said that roughly 70% of the country was unbanked,

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meaning they don't have access to a bank account.

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And that's a challenge for any country.

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Can you imagine if 70% of the United States

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did not have access to a bank account?

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Now, these people truly don't have access.

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I don't know what percentage of the people

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in the United States don't have a bank account.

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It's not 70.

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There is a decent percentage,

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but it's almost always by choice.

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In El Salvador, a lot of times,

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they live hours away from one of the major cities

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and there's no bank.

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Well, 70%, keep that in mind.

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So to prime the pump, just,

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I don't know if you've heard this or not,

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but El Salvador, the country, bought 400 Bitcoin.

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Offhand, I don't know what that means.

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But as of right now,

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they've got 200 Bitcoin ATMs up and running.

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They actually have 50 installed in the United States.

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And those allow the users of the Chivo app,

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which is a Bitcoin wallet

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that the country of El Salvador developed.

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It allows users to top off their app with no commissions.

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Los Angeles, San Francisco, Atlanta, Chicago, Houston,

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Dallas, El Paso, El Doral, Laredo, and McAllen

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all have working Chivo ATMs.

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So that's cool, but this was the interesting thing.

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This article I was reading,

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it said that 500,000 people

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have already got a Chivo wallet.

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Now, this is in a week, 500,000 people.

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Now, maybe that's not a mind-boggling number to you,

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but keep in mind, the population of El Salvador

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is only six and a half million people.

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And if you run the percentage,

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that means that in a week, 7.7,

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almost 8% of the population of El Salvador

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has a Chivo wallet in one week.

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Now, every household, every person, I should say,

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in El Salvador is not gonna need a Chivo wallet.

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If you're two years old, you don't need a wallet.

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So they will never reach 100%,

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but I'm gonna guess this number's gonna blast

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way up there really quickly.

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Now, the rollout hasn't been perfect.

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There's just no way possible on a national scale like this

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that it's going to be perfect.

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But overall, I think it's gone very well.

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The people will get used to it,

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and they always have the choice of US dollars.

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They do not have to take Bitcoin as a individual.

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Businesses have to take Bitcoin.

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That's part of the law.

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Any retail shop that you go into,

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they're gonna have to take Bitcoin,

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but they can always turn around and sell it.

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One of the big worries, I think, is they're like,

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oh, it's volatile and the price swings.

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I've seen this a lot.

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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is volatile

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and the price swings.

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I think it went up.

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Let me see.

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As I recorded this, we're at 46,965,

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so almost exactly 47,000 US dollars.

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And in the last 24 hours, it's gone up $1,500.

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Now, it was a good day.

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It went up.

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Maybe a few days ago, it went down.

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It is volatile.

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But all you have to do,

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all you have to do is back up a little bit

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and look at the long picture.

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Bitcoin now been around for more than 10 years.

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The price is going up.

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The price will go up over the years.

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Now, the issue is if I'm poor

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and I get some Bitcoin and then I turn around

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and I have to sell it in a month

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and the price has gone down 5% or 10%

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and I've lost 10% of the value.

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And that's tough.

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They may choose to, I would probably,

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hey, people in El Salvador, this is not financial advice,

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but I might tell them that they probably need to keep cash,

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at least an emergency fund,

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so that they don't have to worry

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about these price fluctuations

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and just buy that Bitcoin as you gain it and hold it.

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Because five years from now,

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their children will thank them

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as their children potentially come out of poverty

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because of this kind of stuff.

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I see the potential of this as a life-changing event.

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Now, they don't have to.

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They can keep doing things the same way

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and Bitcoin's just another currency

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and they can turn right around and dump it back into USD

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and nothing's going to change for them.

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And that's the reality.

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Anyways, I thought that was cool,

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really good penetration of that app

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in a very non-technical,

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well, what most people would consider a third world country.

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All right, so that's it for this week.

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I've gone pretty long this week.

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I'm going to try and keep these down,

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but there was a lot to talk about.

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So next week, I think we're going to talk

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a little bit more about hacks,

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about how you can protect yourself.

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Most of it's just common sense.

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It may be a very short episode.

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Don't click on the link that you get sent

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in your instant message.

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I mean, we know that, I hope we do.

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The internet, it's interesting because

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if you've been around through the evolution of the internet,

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the internet has scams, just like crypto has scams

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and it's the same stuff.

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You send out messages to people who aren't expecting it

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and they think it's something and click on it

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and this, that, and the other.

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You learn how to navigate these things.

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You learn what not to do.

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You learn what looks suspicious.

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So really, it's probably not a whole lot,

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but we'll talk about some general principles,

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some guidelines.

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And then episode nine,

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the next episode coming up after that,

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we'll be talking about dollar cost averaging.

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I've mentioned it, but it is the simplest

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and one of the most effective investing plans that there is.

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So we'll talk about that.

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And then we'll go on from there.

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So thanks a lot for listening.

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You can always give me feedback,

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mcintosh.fintech at gmail.com.

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Would love to hear from you guys.

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One of the things I would actually ask that you guys do,

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we're starting to build a little bit of an audience

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and I work full-time.

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This is not a full-time job for me,

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this podcast or crypto at this point.

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And so, I'm not glued to my computer 24 seven

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gathering crypto stuff.

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I would love to hear from you guys.

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You can send an email to that,

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the address I just gave mcintosh.fintech at gmail.com

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with maybe news you come across

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or maybe you got a question about something

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or maybe you got an idea for an upcoming episode.

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Would love to hear from you.

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I am actively looking for ways

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to get the listeners more involved.

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Want to hear from you, okay?

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So you guys have a great week

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