Meet the CEO of Unstoppable with Jamal Robbins
Episode 1122nd June 2023 • Total Michigan • Cliff Duvernois
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Jamal had a life much like anyone else. Until Covid-19 shut down his world. Sinking into depression, he found his only way back was to be Unstoppable. This gave birth not only to a clothing line but to a movement and a mission. His mission: to let other people know that they are also Unstoppable.

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Jamal Robbins:

But I never knew that from there that a business would pop out of it.

Jamal Robbins:

And I would be able to encourage other people, that they're unstoppable and

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that they can do it every single day.

Jamal Robbins:

hey, I've been through these things, but it says unstoppable cuz no

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matter what, I am unstoppable.

Cliff Duvernois:

Hello everyone, and welcome back to Total Michigan.

Cliff Duvernois:

I am your host Cliff DuVernois.

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As usual, I run across these stories out there, and I think to myself, I

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have to interview this person because their story is just too compelling.

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And for today's guest, I'm gonna let him go ahead and introduce himself.

Cliff Duvernois:

But, for ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show Jamal Robbins,

Cliff Duvernois:

CEOs of Juniors Collectibles.

Cliff Duvernois:

Jamal, how are you?

Jamal Robbins:

I'm doing fine.

Jamal Robbins:

How are you?

Cliff Duvernois:

I am doing awesome.

Cliff Duvernois:

Thank you for asking.

Cliff Duvernois:

So I know somebody in my audience right now just did a head snap.

Cliff Duvernois:

So why don't you tell us how old you are?

Jamal Robbins:

I'm 13 years old.

Cliff Duvernois:

Okay.

Cliff Duvernois:

You're not like 13 and a half.

Cliff Duvernois:

Almost

Jamal Robbins:

almost 14.

Jamal Robbins:

my birthday's in August.

Cliff Duvernois:

All right, cool.

Cliff Duvernois:

Happy Birthday.

Cliff Duvernois:

It's coming up here in just a couple days.

Jamal Robbins:

Thanks.

Cliff Duvernois:

Why don't you tell us a little bit about

Cliff Duvernois:

what Junior Collectibles is?

Jamal Robbins:

Okay.

Jamal Robbins:

I basically started Juniors Collectibles to encourage people

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through merchandise and motivate them to be the best versions of themselves.

Cliff Duvernois:

Okay.

Cliff Duvernois:

So when you say you wanna motivate people, what do you mean by that?

Jamal Robbins:

I wanna motivate them to not only be the best versions of

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themselves, but to remember that they're unstoppable, um, and that they can

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keep going, even when it gets hard.

Cliff Duvernois:

So why is that important to you?

Jamal Robbins:

Well, it's important to me because when I went through

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depression, people would always encourage me to be the best versions of myself.

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And so when I got out of it, then I wanted, um, to encourage other

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people to, you know, just be the best versions of themselves.

Cliff Duvernois:

And so I want to, I want to delve into this a little bit.

Cliff Duvernois:

But first let's take a step back.

Cliff Duvernois:

What made you decide to become an entrepreneur in the first place?

Jamal Robbins:

Well, it all started when I had to do a fundraiser for the

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Washington DC trip, for my school Sasa.

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Cuz I didn't have like enough money cuz it was like two of us that had to go.

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So I had to do fundraisers for that.

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Um, cuz I didn't wanna do the candy bars.

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So I came up with these cups that have affirmations on the front.

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And candy on the inside.

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So it says You're Unstoppable or, I am enough, or just very like motivation,

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inspirational stuff on the front.

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And so then I sold those and it made people very, very happy.

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So I was like, man, I could do this like all of the time.

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So that's why I started Juniors collectibles a

Cliff Duvernois:

a very, it's always nice when you have that feeling

Cliff Duvernois:

of like satisfaction, like you're really touching people's lives.

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

That's the best part.

Cliff Duvernois:

So you got your taste of being an entrepreneur.

Cliff Duvernois:

Now what I'd like to do is if you're okay with it, you mentioned before about

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how you had gone through depression.

Cliff Duvernois:

Talk to us a

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little bit about

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the reason why I fell into depression was because uh, of the pandemic.

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In March, they told us that we were gonna be like going home for like

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two weeks and then coming back.

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But it ended up becoming three weeks and then it was, seemed

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like it was gonna be forever.

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And so I'm a very interactive person.

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I have to be in class learning, and have that interaction with people.

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So I just broke down.

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It was very hard to like, get out of that stage.

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But you know, I did it and with the help of everybody else, so now I can just

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encourage other people to get out of that.

Cliff Duvernois:

So when you're going through this depression and you're coming

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out of it, what would you credit as that really helped you to start moving forward?

Jamal Robbins:

My parents and my therapists.

Cliff Duvernois:

Okay.

Cliff Duvernois:

Was there any key piece of advice that you remember that they gave

Cliff Duvernois:

you that just really helped you out?

Jamal Robbins:

To just really not, what's the word?

Jamal Robbins:

So they basically told me that I could get through it.

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That, I could do anything that I'm unstoppable, which was one of the

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words um, that, I put on my shirt.

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So that unstoppable word really touched me.

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And so that's why I put it on the merchandise.

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So I think them telling me that I could do anything, that I put

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my mind to, really helped me.

Cliff Duvernois:

So at what point did you decide to marry your interest in

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entrepreneurship with your lessons that you learned from your depression?

Jamal Robbins:

I combined it them, based on, the thought that I would be able to

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just go to like many different places at the vendor events and, at the kids'

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room, our events and all this stuff.

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I would just be able to go to those different places, um, on my free time

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or just any time to encourage people.

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So I put those two ideas together because hey, I can make money

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to start the, special surprise that I'm gonna say at the end.

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And I could also encourage people.

Cliff Duvernois:

Nice.

Cliff Duvernois:

Now, what made you decide to do merchandise?

Jamal Robbins:

Well, I really love shirts, hoodies and hats and stuff.

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because I really love just shopping and clothes and all that stuff.

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So, um, I did merchandise so that, I could, it's like something that I like,

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something that everybody can like wear on themselves to show other people.

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Cuz you know, people go up to other people and it's like,

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hey, so what does this mean?

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What's the meaning of your shirt or what's on here?

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And then it can be like, hey, this young kid told me that this is unstoppable

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and what it means and all of that stuff and what it means to them and

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how I can encourage other people.

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And now many of other people are being encouraged and hey,

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I want this shirt, I want this.

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And now I can pour back into the community.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, and the people that helped me.

Cliff Duvernois:

Oh, that's awesome.

Cliff Duvernois:

So I gotta ask you this question.

Cliff Duvernois:

You decided to be an entrepreneur, you've got your own business up.

Cliff Duvernois:

You are CEO.

Cliff Duvernois:

So what did your friends say to this?

Jamal Robbins:

They were like, what?

Jamal Robbins:

A ceo, e o.

Jamal Robbins:

Like, what's going on here, man?

Jamal Robbins:

How did this happen?

Cliff Duvernois:

Did they get behind you?

Jamal Robbins:

Well, they were like, man,

Jamal Robbins:

I'm your biggest supporter.

Cliff Duvernois:

Now, when you came up with the merchandise and you're trying

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to come up, how do you come up with, cuz I don't know anything about design.

Cliff Duvernois:

I actually, I just, I go find people that know stuff about design.

Cliff Duvernois:

So how did you go about designing?

Cliff Duvernois:

The logo, the unstoppable being on the shirt.

Cliff Duvernois:

How did you do, how did you do all that?

Jamal Robbins:

I wanted it to be distressed.

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so that basically meaning that, it went through like the shirt,

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that I have on right now.

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It went through some things like it's been scarred.

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It's been pushed.

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It's been tested.

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But it's coming out.

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It came out of whatever it went through.

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And that's what made it unstoppable cuz we never gave up and all that.

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So that's why I came up with the distress looked.

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So that it basically lets people know, hey, no matter what you go

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through, you can still do it man.

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Come on.

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Just pick your stuff back up.

Jamal Robbins:

Pick yourself back up, and just get back to it cuz you're unstoppable.

Cliff Duvernois:

I am loving this.

Cliff Duvernois:

So now the question I got for you is, the reason why you and I were able to connect

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was because of, Rhonda Alexia Webb.

Cliff Duvernois:

And for our audience, you can go back to episode 92 and

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listen to my interview with her.

Cliff Duvernois:

But she's got the program called Kids Ruled Now.

Cliff Duvernois:

Yeah, but you were in that program.

Cliff Duvernois:

Talk to us about your experience in that program.

Jamal Robbins:

it was very cool.

Jamal Robbins:

I think the first time I went was 2017.

Jamal Robbins:

oh, you've been in it for a while?

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

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and it was very cool.

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of course I was younger then and I was like, wait a minute.

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These, there's.

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Telling us like very important things because, this one, the 2017

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one and the previous one that I just went to her, last one, they were

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teaching us how to like, work the cameras and do all that other stuff.

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And, he was also teaching us about business, which is, another reason

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why I wanted to start a business.

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Cause I was like, Hey, this is another, another way that I can do it.

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And he told me, Hey, you're really good at this stuff.

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So, you know, might as well, just do it.

Jamal Robbins:

So, um, I can get the word out.

Cliff Duvernois:

And what would be some of the key lessons that you

Cliff Duvernois:

learned going through that program?

Jamal Robbins:

To never give up.

Jamal Robbins:

Like I've heard, never give up.

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And you can do it.

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And you're not nervous.

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You're just excited.

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Hey, I love you.

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And they embrace me like with warm hugs and it's just like

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a really cool atmosphere.

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So yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, I've heard a lot of those things, keep going.

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You got this.

Jamal Robbins:

You know.

Cliff Duvernois:

I love that you're not nervous, you're excited.

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

That's what Miss Rhonda said.

Cliff Duvernois:

So tell us about the first time that you had a product

Cliff Duvernois:

to sell, and I don't know if it was Unstoppable or not, but you had a

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product to sell and you're all of a sudden now facing the public.

Cliff Duvernois:

You got people coming in.

Cliff Duvernois:

It's no longer theoretical.

Cliff Duvernois:

You now have to actually get out there and try to sell something.

Cliff Duvernois:

So talk to us about that.

Jamal Robbins:

Well, um, like I said, it started with the Washington DC trip thing.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, and so I went to the Freeland market.

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in the Midland area around, yeah.

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In the Midland area.

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And, I had to sew the different people and they were like, wow, you're doing

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such a good job and all that stuff.

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And at first I was nervous.

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I actually was, I was like, oh my gosh, how am I gonna do this?

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But, I ended up doing actually really, really good that day.

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And so I was like, I can turn this into a business.

Jamal Robbins:

So that, the Kids Rule Now and everything else just Put

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together made me, want to start.

Cliff Duvernois:

So in that moment when you said, I can do

Cliff Duvernois:

this, what do you think changed?

Jamal Robbins:

I think it was that people telling me, Hey,

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you have a great sales pitch.

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I'm gonna take you to my dealership.

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You can help me sell cars you like better than all my other

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workers on all that stuff.

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I was like, wait, so if I'm that good, then, I can have an impact on people.

Jamal Robbins:

Because I normally just, it's a connection, with people that

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I try to have, like a personal connection, uh, when we're at the

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sales and just in general life.

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So I said, Hey, I can add my personality into the business ethic

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and sales pitch and everything.

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So I was like, wait a minute.

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If one plus one is two, then I can do this.

Jamal Robbins:

You know,

Cliff Duvernois:

You talked about your skills, you talked about your personality.

Cliff Duvernois:

Why don't you share with us maybe some of the some of the things that

Cliff Duvernois:

you thought, you know, like maybe you were thinking one way and then you

Cliff Duvernois:

started thinking another way, right?

Cliff Duvernois:

When you got into,

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when you got into sales part of it, for instance, when you're talking

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about that, like what was some of the, I guess the word that comes to

Cliff Duvernois:

mind is preconceived notions that you had that maybe you thought, okay,

Cliff Duvernois:

I thought that was gonna work this way, but naturally works this way.

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

so that day, I'm not gonna lie, I didn't think I was going to do too well

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because like I said, I was nervous.

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so when I started doing really, really well, I was like, wow, you know,

Cliff Duvernois:

what do you credit when you talk about doing really

Cliff Duvernois:

well, what do you credit that to?

Jamal Robbins:

You're saying like, to people who helped me do that?

Cliff Duvernois:

either that or, what was that?

Cliff Duvernois:

Did you find some confidence in you that you didn't have before?

Cliff Duvernois:

Did you find the right words to say?

Jamal Robbins:

I think it was the confidence.

Jamal Robbins:

I found some sort of confidence.

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Because at first, like I said, I had no confidence, that I was

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gonna be able to like do well.

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But cuz I wanted to touch people, to I,

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but I didn't think I was gonna be able to do it.

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cuz you know, hey, I'm just this little kid, But, um, I ended up doing it in

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I, my cons, my confidence level boosted and, that's why I have the business now.

Cliff Duvernois:

Nice.

Cliff Duvernois:

I know that Kids Rule now has been working with, Saginaw Valley State University.

Cliff Duvernois:

Now, were you in that program as well Okay.

Cliff Duvernois:

So talk to us about your experience working at S V S U.

Jamal Robbins:

Ms.

Jamal Robbins:

Rhonda selected me and my sister for this program, called the Vitito Fellows, over

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at S vs U in the business department.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, So it basically was like this huge boost to my business.

Jamal Robbins:

It helped me come out with new merch and new just everything.

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It boosted my business to it took it to the next level.

Jamal Robbins:

Nice.

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And so it was really cool being able to do like a pitch presentation in front of

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everybody, which they really loved it.

Jamal Robbins:

And, we had really good time with the Vitito fellows.

Jamal Robbins:

And I actually really missed them.

Cliff Duvernois:

For our audience, we're gonna take a quick break to thank our

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sponsors and when we come back, Jamal's gonna tell us about that future project

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that he's keeping for the end of the show.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to Total Michigan.

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I'm your host, Cliff DuVernois.

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Today we're talking to the rather extraordinary Jamal Robbins,

Cliff Duvernois:

C E O of Juniors collectibles.

Cliff Duvernois:

Now, Jamal, before the break, we were talking about your experience working

Cliff Duvernois:

with the Vitito Fellows, and I hope I said that correctly, at S V S U.

Cliff Duvernois:

Why don't you talk to us a little bit about what has happened

Cliff Duvernois:

since your experience with them?

Jamal Robbins:

Well, um, I've been very blessed to, receive a lot of offers to

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go speak to people, which is what, I wanted to become or, and still want to

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become, which is a motivational speaker.

Jamal Robbins:

So I've gotten offers to speak at Bavarian Inn in, um, Boys and Girls

Jamal Robbins:

Club in various, other places, and I'm very excited to, do it.

Cliff Duvernois:

That's absolutely wonderful.

Cliff Duvernois:

Has there been any other doors that have opened up for you because of that?

Jamal Robbins:

Oh, I've gotten new merch styles.

Jamal Robbins:

So not just the distress look that I talk about earlier.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, I've also gotten one that says unstoppable and then like a line and

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then says every scar has a story on it.

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Not just new merchandise, but new logos and everything.

Jamal Robbins:

And an Instagram account.

Cliff Duvernois:

Oh, nice.

Cliff Duvernois:

And we'll have to delve into that.

Cliff Duvernois:

when we get closer to the end of the show, what I would like to

Cliff Duvernois:

do is talk maybe about another, I see that you are also in a band.

Cliff Duvernois:

Yes.

Cliff Duvernois:

You're quite the musician.

Cliff Duvernois:

Talk to us about, I have you always had a love for music.

Cliff Duvernois:

How does that work?

Cliff Duvernois:

Yeah,

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah, I've like, since I was four, I've

Jamal Robbins:

always had a love for music.

Jamal Robbins:

I play, can I tell you the instruments that I play?

Jamal Robbins:

Uh, please do.

Jamal Robbins:

Okay.

Jamal Robbins:

so I sing, um, I play piano.

Jamal Robbins:

I play the drums, the ukulele, the guitar, the bass guitar, the trump, the ooh,

Jamal Robbins:

the trumpet, the baritone, the tuba.

Jamal Robbins:

And some other instruments that I forgot.

Jamal Robbins:

I kind of forgot.

Cliff Duvernois:

Oh man, I love it.

Cliff Duvernois:

Yes, I played one instrument and I was lucky to do that.

Cliff Duvernois:

So you played 'em all.

Cliff Duvernois:

Excellent.

Cliff Duvernois:

So what made you decide to pursue this?

Cliff Duvernois:

Because I see that you got videos online posted, you got like an

Cliff Duvernois:

actual band that's going on there.

Cliff Duvernois:

You got all kinds.

Cliff Duvernois:

So what, why pursue this?

Jamal Robbins:

because, Since the Kids Rule Now event, the first

Jamal Robbins:

one that I went to, I, I've had a passion for business since that age.

Jamal Robbins:

and I really wanted to pursue this, at, not just in entrepreneurship wise,

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but um, also at S V S U, going there for like college and stuff and like

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having minor in music or something.

Jamal Robbins:

So ever since like my inspiration to have a business or become a young entrepreneur,

Jamal Robbins:

that in music have been like, tied for first place of like my most, like

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the things that I really love to do.

Jamal Robbins:

And, and it's not just become like a hobby or whatever, but like it's actually

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something that I, it's like a dream for me or you've actually gotten gigs.

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

Tell us some of the places that you played.

Jamal Robbins:

We've played at the Red House by the Temple Theater.

Jamal Robbins:

I forgot what it was called.

Jamal Robbins:

But the Big Red House and it was like some sort of club, not, community club.

Jamal Robbins:

Okay.

Jamal Robbins:

I forgot what the name was.

Jamal Robbins:

But yeah, it's like this red building by this temple theater and a lot of bands and

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everything come to play um, like really cool music from jazz to like regular,

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like actual band, like orchestra stuff.

Jamal Robbins:

So, um, we've played there and various of other places.

Cliff Duvernois:

Because this has come up a few times during your talk

Cliff Duvernois:

between the music and entrepreneur, and I'm just curious as well, is there an

Cliff Duvernois:

entrepreneur out there that you admire?

Jamal Robbins:

Miss Rhonda Alexia Webb.

Cliff Duvernois:

Boy.

Cliff Duvernois:

I could just hear her laughing right now when she hears this episode.

Cliff Duvernois:

That's gonna be cute.

Cliff Duvernois:

What is it, what is it about Rhonda that you, that you truly admire?

Jamal Robbins:

Her always having a smile on her face and, always

Jamal Robbins:

has this like warm embrace.

Jamal Robbins:

She always tells me the nervous or you're not nervous.

Jamal Robbins:

But you're excited.

Jamal Robbins:

That whole thing.

Jamal Robbins:

And she just like, The first time that I met her in 2017, I was

Jamal Robbins:

like, wow, this lady is amazing.

Jamal Robbins:

Like, So it's just, we've always had that like bond or whatever, ever since.

Jamal Robbins:

So yeah, she's like a really amazing person and she's the reason why I

Jamal Robbins:

wanted to start this special thing again

Cliff Duvernois:

Yes.

Cliff Duvernois:

So let's talk about this special thing.

Cliff Duvernois:

So the question I got for you is, cuz I know this is off to the future,

Cliff Duvernois:

but tell us what the future holds.

Jamal Robbins:

In the future, the very near future, when I turned 18, so roughly

Jamal Robbins:

around 2027, I want to start a nonprofit organization, um, like Kids Rule Now.

Jamal Robbins:

Like I said, Miss Rhonda is my inspiration to start it.

Jamal Robbins:

Because I don't want people to just buy from me to be encouraged.

Jamal Robbins:

But I want this business to be able to grow so that I can support that

Jamal Robbins:

nonprofit, when I turn 18 because I want to be able to do it for free.

Jamal Robbins:

Like not just people buying from me.

Jamal Robbins:

Cuz I've always just wanted to be like, Hey, like basically over Oprah Winfrey.

Jamal Robbins:

Hey, you get this.

Jamal Robbins:

You can do anything except I'm motivating people.

Jamal Robbins:

and encouraging them to like be their best.

Jamal Robbins:

So the nonprofit will actually really help me do that.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, Instead of just going to sales and stuff and selling stuff.

Jamal Robbins:

So my business that I have now can support the nonprofit in

Jamal Robbins:

the future, which is my plan.

Cliff Duvernois:

What is the nonprofit?

Jamal Robbins:

The nonprofit.

Jamal Robbins:

I don't know what I'm going to name it.

Jamal Robbins:

I'm still deciding that.

Jamal Robbins:

So

Cliff Duvernois:

the mission of the nonprofit?

Jamal Robbins:

mission to just encourage people, No matter what, tell people

Jamal Robbins:

that they can do it, go to like various different places, like around the

Jamal Robbins:

country and hopefully around the world, um, to just spread the message that we

Jamal Robbins:

are unstoppable and we can do anything.

Cliff Duvernois:

I know when you talk about inspiring people, and that's a

Cliff Duvernois:

very laudable goal, when you talk about inspiring people, what is it exactly

Cliff Duvernois:

do you want to inspire them to do?

Jamal Robbins:

like I said, be the best versions on themself.

Jamal Robbins:

Just try to be positive, instead of looking at the negative things

Jamal Robbins:

in life because there's always a bright side to to a story.

Jamal Robbins:

And some things happen to make greater things happen.

Jamal Robbins:

you could, your car could break down, but next thing you know, hey, there's this car

Jamal Robbins:

for sale for that's very affordable in.

Jamal Robbins:

Now look, it's just basically in your hands and, hey, I have this new

Jamal Robbins:

nicer car, better than the other one.

Jamal Robbins:

So sometimes things happen for a good reason.

Jamal Robbins:

And so sometimes when bad things happen, people um, get down and sad.

Jamal Robbins:

Like I did when Covid happened.

Jamal Robbins:

But I never knew that from there that a business would pop out of it.

Jamal Robbins:

And I would be able to encourage other people, that they're unstoppable and

Jamal Robbins:

that they can do it every single day.

Jamal Robbins:

Even though I had to go through some things to come out and be like a

Jamal Robbins:

better person and have um, the business so I can encourage other people.

Jamal Robbins:

It just, it's just wow.

Jamal Robbins:

It's amazing cuz I'm able to do it now.

Jamal Robbins:

So, yeah.

Cliff Duvernois:

Why don't you talk to us about some of the new

Cliff Duvernois:

merch that you've been working on?

Jamal Robbins:

I know earlier that I mentioned, about

Jamal Robbins:

hoodies and hats and shirts.

Jamal Robbins:

So I already had shirts, before the Vitito.

Jamal Robbins:

But the Vitito at, the Innovation Lab, with, I believe his name is John.

Jamal Robbins:

I could be wrong, but anyways, we made hoodies that says every scar

Jamal Robbins:

has a story underneath unstoppable.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, and those like all sold out at the event.

Jamal Robbins:

The pitch presentation that we had to do.

Jamal Robbins:

They all sold out.

Jamal Robbins:

So I had to make some more, so that, you know, I can,' sell

Jamal Robbins:

'em, But that was amazing.

Jamal Robbins:

I

Cliff Duvernois:

Oh, that's okay.

Cliff Duvernois:

I was actually gonna lead right into my next question that I had for you when

Cliff Duvernois:

you were talking about, now talk about the Innovation Lab and part of the S

Cliff Duvernois:

V S u and I missed this part before.

Cliff Duvernois:

The innovation lab is where you can actually go and make products.

Cliff Duvernois:

So when you talk, when we talk about making products,

Cliff Duvernois:

is it like a one-off thing?

Cliff Duvernois:

Could you like run a hundred t-shirts?

Cliff Duvernois:

Could you do a thousand hoodies?

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

I can.

Jamal Robbins:

I actually I can't remember how much I made.

Jamal Robbins:

I think I made 50 to a hundred different like hoodies or shirts.

Jamal Robbins:

And so it's actually really cool process.

Jamal Robbins:

So you have to, it fits, um, a gray hoodie, like how we had to do

Jamal Robbins:

with the gray hoodies and shirts.

Jamal Robbins:

You have to put it in this like big red machine and then it

Jamal Robbins:

like, coats it with something.

Jamal Robbins:

And then you iron it and then you put the, ink on there for the

Jamal Robbins:

thing, and then you iron it again, and then bam, there's a shirt.

Jamal Robbins:

I had the really cool opportunity, with the Vitito fellows to go to the innovation

Jamal Robbins:

lab, and make the products myself.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, And it was like a very fun experience.

Jamal Robbins:

So I can really just go there, anytime, but like I have to set up a date or

Jamal Robbins:

something, You know, plan it out with him.

Jamal Robbins:

So yeah, I can just go there and just make stuff, for my business.

Cliff Duvernois:

Talk to us about the first time that you held up one of your

Cliff Duvernois:

shirts and you saw your logo on there.

Cliff Duvernois:

This is now your product.

Cliff Duvernois:

Talk to us about that.

Jamal Robbins:

So when they came to my house, and my mom showed me, I was like,

Jamal Robbins:

whoa, that's, I'm gonna be selling these?

Jamal Robbins:

And I was like, wow.

Jamal Robbins:

Really?

Jamal Robbins:

was that bad?

Jamal Robbins:

No, it was good.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, I was like, wow, it's, this is actually like really happening.

Jamal Robbins:

It was only like a dream, some time ago.

Jamal Robbins:

But it's like, wow, it's actually happening now.

Cliff Duvernois:

And It became a reality.

Cliff Duvernois:

And you sold out.

Jamal Robbins:

Yeah.

Cliff Duvernois:

So what does that tell you?

Jamal Robbins:

That I can do it.

Jamal Robbins:

This is just living proof that I can, and that anybody can, do whatever they

Jamal Robbins:

put their mi their minds to, which is what I was told the entire time,

Jamal Robbins:

before I had my business started.

Jamal Robbins:

Little did I know that it was actually going to manifest that I could do

Jamal Robbins:

anything that I put my mind too.

Cliff Duvernois:

That's great cuz that seems to be a

Cliff Duvernois:

reoccurring theme today yeah.

Cliff Duvernois:

For you to be able to do that.

Cliff Duvernois:

Nice.

Cliff Duvernois:

so with regards to, the nonprofit, the question that I got for you is

Cliff Duvernois:

this, cuz having a nonprofit is tough.

Cliff Duvernois:

So why do the nonprofit?

Cliff Duvernois:

Why not just do speaking engagements right underneath of your company now?

Cliff Duvernois:

Why make a separate entity?

Jamal Robbins:

I really don't know.

Jamal Robbins:

I just, it's just something that was put on my heart to do.

Jamal Robbins:

Just one day, it was just like an idea.

Jamal Robbins:

Because how Ms.

Jamal Robbins:

Rhonda's Kids Now, really touched me and it was like all just for free.

Jamal Robbins:

It's just was set in my hands.

Jamal Robbins:

And I could do whatever I wanted to, do with it and be encouraged and everything.

Jamal Robbins:

I was like, Hey, I don't want to do this when people have to pay for it.

Jamal Robbins:

I wanna do it for free.

Jamal Robbins:

And yeah, that's why I wanna do the nonprofit because I don't

Jamal Robbins:

want to take, I wanted to do it with my business that I have now.

Jamal Robbins:

I don't want to take like anything out of it.

Jamal Robbins:

I don't want to earn any money.

Jamal Robbins:

I don't wanna do that.

Jamal Robbins:

I'd rather get a job, somewhere else.

Jamal Robbins:

But I was like, wait a minute.

Jamal Robbins:

This business could be funding another thing um, that I

Jamal Robbins:

wanna do for the nonprofit.

Jamal Robbins:

And so I was like, Hey, this is actually gonna be a cool plan.

Jamal Robbins:

It's actually gonna work out.

Jamal Robbins:

and so that's why I did that versus, my other plan.

Cliff Duvernois:

Okay.

Cliff Duvernois:

Another question I got for you is circling back to the, to the speaking gigs, right?

Cliff Duvernois:

People saying, Hey, we want you to come talk to us.

Cliff Duvernois:

Is it just doing your business presentation?

Cliff Duvernois:

Or is it you inspiring people.

Jamal Robbins:

It's me inspiring people, both, really, but

Jamal Robbins:

more of the inspiring people.

Jamal Robbins:

Because people that showed up to the event and people that wasn't

Jamal Robbins:

able to make it, but heard about it.

Jamal Robbins:

They were like, wow, this dude is like, He's, he's encouraging people.

Jamal Robbins:

He's doing this.

Jamal Robbins:

He's telling us about Unstoppable.

Jamal Robbins:

And so, um, they wanted me to go to other places and tell them about Unstoppable.

Jamal Robbins:

So I believe at the Bavarian Inn it's going to be like a a staff day.

Jamal Robbins:

So like they relax, whatever.

Jamal Robbins:

And I can encourage the staff to keep going and keep doing what they do, um, and

Jamal Robbins:

doing what they're, what they really love.

Jamal Robbins:

So it's like a mixture of both.

Cliff Duvernois:

And for your speaking engagement, so I asked this question

Cliff Duvernois:

because this is something that I'm getting into myself, but for your speaking

Cliff Duvernois:

engagement, do you have already an outline prepared of what you're gonna say?

Jamal Robbins:

I'm actually working on that.

Jamal Robbins:

right now.

Cliff Duvernois:

Cool.

Cliff Duvernois:

Anything you can share with us?

Jamal Robbins:

I'm going to tell people about Unstoppable.

Jamal Robbins:

in every car, in every scar has a story.

Jamal Robbins:

And what that means to me.

Jamal Robbins:

And I've been coming up with an acronym for Unstoppable, or

Jamal Robbins:

either every scar has a story.

Cliff Duvernois:

Where did you get every scar has a story?

Jamal Robbins:

Well, um, that was another thing that was just like on my heart.

Jamal Robbins:

Every scar has a story.

Jamal Robbins:

Because like I said, with the distressed look, the distress tells or it shows

Jamal Robbins:

people that, hey, I've been through these things, but it says unstoppable

Jamal Robbins:

cuz no matter what, I am unstoppable.

Jamal Robbins:

And those scars tell stories.

Jamal Robbins:

And, yeah.

Jamal Robbins:

So how we come out of those scars and how the scars can still be

Jamal Robbins:

there, but, it doesn't change you, you know what I'm saying?

Jamal Robbins:

It just, it makes you better.

Cliff Duvernois:

Jamal, for our audience, if anybody's listening to

Cliff Duvernois:

this and they want to connect with you, they wanna follow the excitement

Cliff Duvernois:

and the journey that you're on.

Cliff Duvernois:

And I know you mentioned instagram before, is there a website we can

Cliff Duvernois:

direct people to social media?

Cliff Duvernois:

What's the best way for them to get in to, to follow you?

Jamal Robbins:

The best ways for them to follow me or get in contact

Jamal Robbins:

with me is Facebook and Instagram.

Jamal Robbins:

Instagram, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, it's at Junior's Collectibles.

Jamal Robbins:

Um, Or you can just look up my full name and hit the search button.

Jamal Robbins:

Don't forget the search button cuz it won't work.

Jamal Robbins:

But my full name.

Jamal Robbins:

And then hit the search button.

Jamal Robbins:

And then it should be the first one up there and it says Junior Collectibles

Jamal Robbins:

with my red hat for my logo.

Jamal Robbins:

And then on Facebook you can either just look up junior

Jamal Robbins:

Collectibles or my full name.

Cliff Duvernois:

Awesome.

Cliff Duvernois:

Jamal, thank you for taking time to come and chat with us today.

Cliff Duvernois:

It's really great and There's a lot of great things and I actually

Cliff Duvernois:

look forward to having you back on the show in the future so you can

Cliff Duvernois:

tell us how everything's unfolded.

Cliff Duvernois:

So thank you.

Jamal Robbins:

Thank you for inviting me.

Cliff Duvernois:

And for our audience, you can always go to total michigan.com,

Cliff Duvernois:

click on Jamal's interview and you will see all the links that he mentioned above.

Cliff Duvernois:

We'll see you next week with another exciting story.

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