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Episode #108 - USMNT Flop in Panama, Scotland Can Boogie, The State of Women's Football
Episode 10811th October 2021 • Squeaky Bum Time: An English Premier League Podcast • Laurent Courtines, Mike Salerno, Chop Sports Media
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In Episode #108 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Mike and Laurent discuss the latest disappointing result for the USMNT, after they fail to register a shot on target in a 1-0 loss at Panama. Also:

  • France are UEFA Nations League champions!
  • Scotland can boogie! The Scots get a big win in a World Cup qualifier, and have a new song to celebrate!
  • Scandal overruns the NWSL, can it survive much longer with these systemic issues?
  • Meanwhile, in England, the WSL is THRIVING... why the hell don't American women's leagues do it this way?

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00:02

hello and welcome to the squeaky bum

00:05

time podcast with mike and laurent it is

00:08

tuesday october 12th 12th in this

00:10

episode france are the nation league

00:12

champions leila blue they weren't very

00:15

good there are no good strikers but

00:17

first mike you subjected yourself to a

00:20

moment of pure death like i did two

00:22

weeks ago or two months ago and watched

00:24

the us men's national team

00:27

lose for the first time in 15 attempts

00:31

to panama

00:33

what say you about that game i think the

00:36

thing that i took away from it was

00:38

there are so many things to think about

00:40

that a this is far far cry from our our

00:43

top 11 and our best you know the best

00:45

thing we could put out there there was

00:46

no pull sick there was no reina

00:48

um

00:49

i had trouble recognizing some of the

00:51

players in the lineup

00:52

um

00:53

but

00:55

panama

00:57

away panama

00:59

didn't have a shot on target

01:01

just that's that's it that's the

01:02

headline like

01:04

you

01:04

[Music]

01:05

you got outplayed and outclassed now i

01:07

don't care

01:09

every player on this on this squad in

01:11

this lineup

01:12

plays professional soccer

01:15

most of them playing mos which is sort

01:18

of mike why are you spending your time

01:20

on this

01:20

but

01:21

they are professionals

01:24

they are considered

01:25

that they do they do this for a career

01:27

and they did not get a shot on goal in

01:29

90 minutes in panama and before you go

01:31

into um oh well concacaf has some really

01:34

tough road environments that stadium was

01:37

about 40 full there was nobody [ __ ]

01:40

there like

01:42

it it smacks of the desperation we were

01:45

talking about it

01:46

you know off air but they the the bottom

01:49

line is the united states of america is

01:51

just not deep enough

01:53

to compete on any stage

01:55

and we thought that that the opposite

01:57

was true you know this summer when they

01:59

won that who gives a [ __ ] cup yeah but

02:01

they were played all the awesome men's

02:03

and music they won that backing up

02:04

basically they were terrible and they

02:06

just happened to win yeah

02:08

uh

02:09

and it's performances like this where

02:11

you go mike even as a tottenham fan

02:13

that was bad right

02:16

yeah so so i i

02:18

i didn't watch this game but i do know

02:20

what the performance looked like it must

02:22

have looked like first half versus

02:23

honduras where it's ponderous

02:26

it's lost

02:28

guys literally with the ball at their

02:30

feet with their hands up like where are

02:31

you what are you doing where are

02:34

where's the movement what's happening

02:36

and i'm assuming that you know for

02:38

panama it's a big deal they have that

02:40

famous qualifier against uh against

02:43

against mexico they made the world cup

02:45

last time and we didn't yeah um and

02:47

they're gonna play to win and they're a

02:48

good team it's close to close to

02:50

colombia that's a strong side and

02:52

conquer cafe is tough listen a draw

02:54

would have been okay right i know a draw

02:57

would be they would have struggled and

02:58

got their goal and whatever i think the

03:00

thing like like at some point

03:03

sorry at some point during the game we

03:04

were down one nil and i i forget who was

03:07

doing the game uh on um paramount plus

03:10

which is the other thing the us men's

03:11

qualifiers is jumping around a lot of

03:13

the different uh streaming services

03:15

everybody's hard everybody's getting a

03:16

piece of the action yeah but do they

03:19

really want it and do i really want to

03:20

spend my time on it but um they were

03:23

like would you take a point out of this

03:24

game they were down one in like the 70th

03:26

minute and the guy yes

03:28

i heard the three seconds of palpable

03:30

silence from the commentator going what

03:31

the [ __ ]

03:33

yes of course of course

03:35

yes of course i would have said that

03:37

when it was zero zero i i wanted no yeah

03:38

i mean a point would have been great

03:40

they could have they wanted the nine but

03:42

they could have finished with the seven

03:43

but now this costa rica game becomes big

03:45

yeah and i think they're not going to

03:47

qualify but i mean we said that last

03:48

night i don't know

03:50

i think the big takeaway is this

03:53

whether ball halters bad good nepotism

03:56

i don't care about that

03:58

the big question that i have is

04:01

the united states men's national team

04:04

does not have enough depth in good

04:06

players to be taking teams like panama

04:10

lightly like you have to play your best

04:13

11 over and over and over again until

04:17

you qualify then you can [ __ ] around all

04:19

you want like this lo this draw or

04:21

whatever this loss just makes it worse

04:23

later like ball halter you're not

04:26

[ __ ] in the champions league there's

04:28

not a game next week it's not about the

04:29

league it's just win these [ __ ] games

04:32

like who are you kidding what are you

04:35

thinking it's not your job to [ __ ]

04:37

develop players your job is to win this

04:41

group get to the world cup and then you

04:43

can do whatever you want you can have

04:45

camps because just getting to the world

04:47

cup at this point for the u.s

04:50

i think

04:51

getting out of the group stage would be

04:53

a win like i'll be in a circle by the

04:56

way it often is because we often find

04:58

ourselves in a really challenging group

05:01

because we're lowering that's why you

05:02

need to be highly ranked right multiple

05:04

times in the group of death right that's

05:06

kind of the way that the the dice sort

05:08

of roll when you're in the situation

05:09

that you're in and then so so we we

05:12

talked about it really quickly about

05:13

like uh

05:15

qualifying from different groups and i

05:17

just was really super duper curious and

05:19

had an argument with a guy about other

05:20

countries and like populations of

05:22

different areas the us men's national

05:25

team has the easiest qualifying of any

05:28

[ __ ] country in the world i mean

05:30

aside from aside from oceania i think

05:33

but there's no big country there right

05:35

like i guess like china is supposed to

05:37

be but i mean

05:38

when you look at africa which has almost

05:43

half a billion people there's 54

05:46

countries they have

05:47

10 groups of four teams each the first

05:51

five

05:52

you win your group and then you play two

05:54

legs to get in they get only five teams

05:57

yeah i think concacaf gets five as well

05:59

but it's in this little tiny group of

06:01

eight like half the teams make it so

06:03

it's just like

06:04

if we were in africa we'd get killed

06:07

we'd never make it out of europe we're

06:09

a mess

06:10

we'd be san marino if we were trying to

06:12

cough on you west could beat sweden no

06:14

[ __ ] way no chance sweden is awesome

06:17

like it sucks with scoring goals like go

06:20

back to the go back to the euros

06:22

there were 24 teams in the euros and it

06:24

was good

06:26

how many teams

06:28

are

06:28

are not as good as the us

06:31

two

06:32

two

06:33

north macedonia

06:35

you had north macedonia who had more

06:38

spirit than any us team has had arguably

06:40

ever

06:41

are we as good as scotland

06:45

do we have anybody better than any

06:47

robertson nope no

06:49

do we have anyone as good as john mcginn

06:52

no

06:54

no

06:54

no

06:55

like he is a premier league player

06:58

playing every week for two seasons

07:00

carrying an up-and-coming team in aston

07:03

villa like

07:04

yeah jack grealish got moved not john

07:06

mcginn john mcginn and his crooked face

07:09

that has been smashed more times than

07:11

he'd like to admit is a better player

07:13

than any player on the men's national

07:15

team and that's what he's gotten into

07:16

some bar fights i love him for it i mean

07:19

that's maybe tyler adams can be john

07:21

mcginn

07:22

maybe

07:23

one day

07:24

right when his face gets smashed enough

07:28

anyway

07:33

a little bit of credit because let's be

07:36

fair

07:36

weston mckinney

07:38

christian pulisic right giorena they're

07:41

not there they're i don't even know if

07:42

they're allowed to be to be honest all i

07:45

know is that i've watched all these

07:46

internationals i watch argentina

07:49

literally all their players go oh what

07:51

you want us to jump off of a [ __ ]

07:52

cliff no problem geolog

07:55

right right off the cliff whatever they

07:56

say guys so

07:59

those players

08:00

have no problem living dying bleeding

08:03

for the shirt and for their country

08:05

uh and i'm not saying that i need this

08:08

psychotic level of jingoism from pulisic

08:11

and company but he doesn't seem to want

08:14

to rock the boat at chelsea

08:16

right and

08:18

i think he he he i think he cares about

08:21

the us men's nationality i think he does

08:23

i think he takes

08:24

extremely personally but i think the

08:27

issue with pulisic is he can't stay on

08:28

the field he can't play hard yeah he

08:31

gets hurt

08:32

yeah just no

08:34

he does

08:35

yeah i know and reyna reyna as well

08:37

right he's 18 right like

08:39

that's fine but he's still the best we

08:40

[ __ ] got but

08:42

um that's not good but like no that's a

08:46

whole nother thing but

08:48

like you said

08:49

go to panama go win

08:51

right go take these games i don't care

08:53

if you lose to mexico i don't care if

08:55

you lose to the ticos i don't care about

08:57

that because

08:58

it's the same thing we always say about

09:00

the top four you don't have to win the

09:02

[ __ ] thing you just have to qualify

09:05

right i don't care you're never gonna

09:06

catch city you're never going to catch

09:07

liverpool tottenham just go be better

09:11

than lester that's all please never ever

09:14

play down to burnley like whoop that

09:16

that's just go beat burnley just go

09:18

right so so as much as let's go beat

09:20

north

09:20

let's go back let's sort of make an

09:22

analogy right like

09:23

one of the things that

09:25

was what arson wenger used to do was

09:27

when they were making the top four all

09:29

the time they never beat anyone ahead of

09:31

them or around them maybe spurs

09:32

sometimes sure may take a point here and

09:35

there they'd get smoked that was their

09:36

big thing they'd get killed but let me

09:38

tell you when they played

09:40

a bottom half team they put a [ __ ]

09:43

clinic on them

09:44

because they passed the ball around them

09:46

and kicked their ass and and they'd get

09:48

their 79 points but like you know what

09:51

top four didn't beat anybody never going

09:53

to challenge give it but we'll take that

09:55

money put it on a bank and we'll make it

09:57

to the round of 16 and we'll be good

09:59

thank you are you suggesting that

10:01

arsenal the us is already the coach

10:03

of the united states yes that would be

10:05

awesome

10:07

actually we're not good enough he would

10:09

try and make us play okay we'd get

10:11

annihilated yeah yeah but just think for

10:13

a second about all the chance i would

10:15

learn spanish just to hear what the

10:16

mexican fans said about arsene wenger

10:19

i would i promise i would take classes

10:21

um

10:22

yeah yeah i don't know there's a lot of

10:24

there's a lot of fodder there imagine if

10:26

we got england in the group stage again

10:29

oh god almighty

10:30

so as we as we as we transfer from

10:33

europe the the thing is is i i do have

10:36

one thing is like maybe we just need to

10:38

stop the hyperbole and just accept that

10:40

our national team is not good

10:42

and just kind of go from there i think

10:43

that's really the issue it's just we're

10:45

just not good enough and that's okay

10:47

it's look and again it's whatever

10:49

qualify and and it'll be fine and then

10:52

you know we just call it a day and be

10:54

like okay we got where we got but we're

10:56

not there it's we're just not close it's

10:59

nice that we have players playing in

11:00

europe but we're not there and i'll tell

11:02

you how i know we're not there because i

11:05

watch france and spain

11:07

and

11:07

i watch spain and they're 18 year olds

11:10

and none of them can run fast none of

11:13

them are strong

11:14

none of them can do anything but what

11:16

they can do is they can play the ball

11:18

with both feet without even thinking and

11:20

they bossed france for a half it was

11:23

boring but super duper tactical first

11:26

half so this is the nation's league this

11:28

is what europe created out of friendlies

11:30

and you know what

11:32

it worked they play hard they want to

11:34

win

11:35

who knew when you put the good teams

11:36

against each other they play hard uh and

11:39

i thought spain were really good they

11:41

couldn't

11:42

they couldn't uh break france down

11:44

france played:

11:47

literally look a half a foot taller than

11:49

every single spaniard in every position

11:52

and then i looked at it

11:54

and then i looked at the spanish

11:55

backline and i'm like oh there's my

11:57

friend eric garcia the smartest most

12:00

clever defender i've ever seen who's not

12:02

fast not quick and five foot eight i'm

12:04

like you're gonna get beat and i'm very

12:07

honest

12:08

he did uh i was watching the pre-game

12:11

with ian dark who i love listening to

12:13

him on the call

12:14

um

12:16

i just i was watching the first like

12:18

half hour of the game and i was like i

12:19

don't

12:20

i don't give a [ __ ] about this game

12:22

anymore i turned it off i was like i

12:24

don't that's okay

12:25

yeah i mean it was but but eric garcia

12:27

was one of you saw them moving the ball

12:29

boom boom boom yeah yeah i just was like

12:31

i can't do it today

12:32

no it's okay it was it was boring the

12:34

first half the second half opened up

12:36

after i can't even pronounce his name

12:38

orisable orizable whatever he was

12:40

playing the nine for spain yeah their

12:42

problem was they don't have benzema and

12:45

balbi and that's why they lost them

12:48

uh benzema

12:49

scored an amazing world e and bape

12:52

scored what would have been an offside

12:54

goal for all of

12:56

soccer history but now is not an offside

12:58

goal

12:59

ball played to him he was offside took a

13:00

touch from eric garcia who uh is too

13:03

slow and not athletic enough

13:05

in these games and uh that's what

13:07

happened like that's what i that that's

13:08

the takeaway i've been taking away from

13:10

spain is that

13:12

in general their entire league

13:14

and why they're declining in general

13:17

even in the champions league is they're

13:19

not fast enough big enough and have the

13:22

athleticism they simply value something

13:24

different and the french team

13:27

with their i don't have a better way to

13:29

say this and i'm just going to say it

13:30

with the way i say it is with the

13:32

immigrants with all the african

13:34

immigrants and whatever that means

13:36

however you think of that maybe the

13:38

whatever they're bigger and stronger and

13:40

hungrier and whatever

13:42

yeah they like you see pogba in the

13:44

midfield and you're just like they

13:47

he just posts up on them and then

13:50

bobby's just runs like eric garcia he

13:52

just ran once he decided that he was

13:54

gonna run past him he ran past him well

13:57

yeah it just shrugs him off just imagine

13:59

paul pogba standing there what would you

14:01

say here six three roughly six two six

14:03

one yeah sure

14:05

and he's a brick [ __ ] ass right like and

14:07

he runs like a gazelle he doesn't really

14:09

get out of first gear that often because

14:11

of a where he plays he doesn't have to

14:13

he doesn't have to and he looks at it

14:15

and goes i'm gonna light this

14:16

[ __ ] up like that's gonna happen

14:18

you know why because i want to

14:20

but to be fair like spain when they do

14:23

their game right they've got tr

14:25

everything's moving around they don't

14:26

have to use their athleticism and they

14:28

do beat you with technical skill but

14:30

when the push comes to shove

14:32

and the battle happens

14:34

and those moments happen with a big team

14:36

versus small team

14:38

they just get bullied uh and they i see

14:41

it happen sometimes with city sometimes

14:43

you know when fernandinho is not there

14:44

i'm just like oh there's roderi again

14:48

was it was it italy that they lost to on

14:50

penalties in the in the year yes yes yes

14:53

they should have beat them too yeah they

14:54

absolutely should they were far better

14:56

in that match

14:58

that was italy playing like the old

14:59

italian style where they just they went

15:01

but they went bonucci

15:03

yeah they were like we got this uh but

15:05

it was really good i really thought that

15:07

the

15:08

nations league is a good tournament you

15:10

get to see all your players uh we did

15:12

have a lot of

15:14

fun

15:15

exciting stuff like i said mbappe and

15:17

benzema class if somehow

15:21

in the ether spain pulls an athletic

15:24

center forward out of the sky which they

15:26

seemed to be disappearing slowly but

15:28

surely i think the last one they had was

15:30

probably david villa

15:32

never worked really with um

15:37

costa would be the last one i suppose

15:39

but it didn't really jive with them

15:41

because he was a premier league like he

15:43

was an english striker playing in spain

15:45

yeah but like are you saying from like

15:49

he was the most recent one though right

15:51

like not just he was the most recent

15:52

striker who was

15:54

who was clinical but the way they played

15:56

did not suit him like they wouldn't hoof

15:58

it to him yeah and let him do his

16:02

his louis suarez impression he wouldn't

16:03

let him do his mourinho ball [ __ ] right

16:06

which so i i hated him but i loved him

16:09

diego let's let's man we talked a lot

16:11

about hearts

16:12

we talked a lot about this off air and

16:14

with our good friend uh producer chari

16:17

as we call him in the in our twitter

16:19

group

16:20

um there seems to be

16:24

a maybe how would you characterize this

16:26

like a talent gap at the number nine

16:28

just a weird gap yeah in number nines as

16:32

what we mean by that is certain of a

16:34

certain cohort right okay so the way

16:37

that the way you characterize it is um

16:39

it's not that there's not players it's

16:42

that there's no

16:43

next world class right and maybe super

16:46

young or they're super old right and

16:49

maybe holland is the exception to this

16:52

um

16:53

and and fine but if that's the case he

16:56

still seems to be

16:57

by himself

16:58

um in the sense that

17:01

part of this we we were talking about it

17:03

and we think that it it has to do with

17:05

players in that

17:07

i guess

17:08

one foot out the door genre

17:12

in that class i should say that prime to

17:14

late prime they're hanging on now

17:17

i mean how old is benzema is he above 34

17:21

is he okay because i was thinking about

17:23

this i'm like well kane's only 27 right

17:25

so

17:26

can he he's the one

17:28

he's the one he's the one between

17:31

realistically

17:32

right but he's but he's a nine like he

17:34

he shows other skills but i think the

17:36

thing to think about is is that

17:40

the nines we're talking about these

17:41

scoring players these strikers whatever

17:44

they're not back to goal they've all

17:46

kind of started as wingers and kind of

17:47

stay out there like and bape is a winger

17:50

really yeah yeah right he doesn't wanna

17:52

we're not he's not a hold up man he's

17:54

not he's not giroux

17:56

right right okay that's what we're

17:58

talking about we're talking about those

17:59

yeah

18:00

forceful

18:01

middle of the field

18:03

kick it to him

18:04

hold it up

18:05

bring wings into play and then get into

18:08

the box and get on the end of things

18:09

yeah yeah hardly any of them

18:12

right

18:12

right and that's the gap that's missing

18:14

that's what city was like well if i

18:16

can't get kane

18:19

then

18:20

all right so that's the perfect example

18:23

yeah exactly city's sitting there and

18:25

they're like hmm we need a striker let's

18:28

spend 100 million dollars on jack elish

18:30

okay

18:31

hmm

18:32

we need a striker we're going to go get

18:33

harry kane right no you're not um

18:37

[ __ ] it like there was no you know like

18:39

it's not there's not

18:42

i think the thing to be clear about is

18:44

like

18:45

there's i know it sounds it sounds

18:46

cheesy to say but there are levels to

18:48

this right there is

18:50

there's the trends at the high end sort

18:52

of late stage champions league

18:54

where that's really

18:56

the football we're talking about where

18:58

the competitions and the margins are so

19:01

narrow like you know like you know juve

19:04

aside from last the last season wasn't

19:05

worried about winning the la liga uh

19:08

psg's not winning worried about winning

19:10

france

19:11

uh bayern munich doesn't care about

19:12

winning except that they didn't last

19:14

year

19:15

but i looked it up that was a fluke like

19:17

it was

19:19

scored i looked at their xg plus they

19:21

were 15 goals over every single one of

19:24

their goals was over like was it just

19:26

luck it was incredible

19:28

france france did a lester last year i

19:30

guess we shouldn't say right and they

19:31

were good and and magnon is really good

19:34

so that's fine because they don't care

19:36

right but we're talking about that that

19:38

top level that top group of players yeah

19:40

and where is that next group of strikers

19:42

coming is it because i think there's

19:45

sort of multiple factors right it's

19:48

wingers who have to press in

19:50

fast-passing teams that are now playing

19:52

striker and people aren't being actual

19:55

strikers so you have that piece and then

19:57

you have are we developing them are they

19:59

letting are they allowing them to play

20:01

are they being moved are they becoming

20:03

center forwards if you have a decent

20:04

enough touch and you're big enough maybe

20:06

they just stick you in the back i don't

20:08

know what's happening but it is

20:09

interesting and i do think about

20:12

one of the trends historically in

20:14

football is

20:16

forwards disappearing

20:18

we went from four to three to two

20:22

to one and now you have city playing

20:23

with none false nine yeah yeah right

20:26

right so

20:27

it's interesting it is a question to

20:29

think about like where is this next

20:31

group of traditional big men gonna come

20:35

from it might just be holland it's not

20:37

ambape it may be benzema sticks around

20:40

forever it may be that those older

20:42

players just stay forever well right but

20:44

even if it's holland and holland becomes

20:46

the next

20:47

ronaldo messi esque player right um he's

20:50

by himself which i think is the

20:52

important thing but

20:53

i just i touched on something there that

20:54

i think he has to he has to compete with

20:57

him papi that's the only way to get sure

20:59

but what i'm saying is we're coming out

21:01

of an era

21:02

where we had not one but two of the

21:05

greatest players in the history of any

21:08

sport not just football

21:10

so massive

21:11

they transcended everything they reset

21:14

expectations they

21:16

they brought players along with them

21:18

because basically they said this is how

21:20

good you have to be to even be in the

21:22

conversation of competing with me and so

21:24

you had

21:26

for short stretches you had agueros you

21:28

had bales you had benzemas you had you

21:31

know different players over the last few

21:33

years yeah sure absolutely

21:35

um

21:36

and and even he's even he is a is a

21:38

fringe

21:39

winger

21:40

he's a winner he's a winger right he's a

21:43

goal scorer but he's a winger he's a

21:45

winger with an inverted touch just like

21:46

bale right so um

21:50

there's there's not that

21:53

that next generation of players that's

21:56

really ready and chomping at the bits to

21:57

take over but i do think it's partly

21:59

because these players are still here

22:00

right we're still talking about them

22:02

it's not like they're gone it's not like

22:04

you know tyrion reed left

22:06

and everybody was like uh we're next we

22:09

got next right like so you know wayne

22:11

rooney

22:12

the the we've gotten there was like i'm

22:14

right here

22:15

yeah but we've got next thing is always

22:16

really laughable when you look at the

22:18

guy's age that they're comparing them to

22:20

you're like dude messi won the ballon

22:22

d'or at 20. like what the [ __ ] you

22:24

talking about like right and it's like

22:26

the thing is

22:27

the 40 goals this is

22:29

interplanetary although i do think that

22:32

these types of players like the

22:34

influence of ronaldo is being seen now

22:36

right like it's

22:38

it's 10 it's a 12 year old 10 years

22:40

later it is mbappe who was a fan like so

22:42

they may raise the ceiling they may he

22:45

was maniacal about his body you know all

22:47

those things could happen like we don't

22:49

know what'll happen like i think the way

22:51

i think about it is like steph curry

22:54

became

22:55

he he has sons of that are in the league

22:58

now there's all these guys who play like

23:00

him and now oh yeah i'll shoot from the

23:01

[ __ ] logo yeah that's normal i'll hit

23:04

that no problem and it's completely

23:05

changed the way people play so there's

23:07

that piece of it that i i do think about

23:09

but i do have one a few years off from

23:11

that really taking hold right like it is

23:16

it is concerning if you think and this

23:18

is a good a good jordan comparison

23:22

messi and ronaldo are going to leave a

23:24

massive hole that's what i'm saying yeah

23:26

like like

23:28

a big

23:29

there's not anything close to that

23:32

behind them but the but as they were

23:34

coming up the hole that was left by

23:36

those in front of them the henries the

23:39

rooneys the ronaldinhos right

23:42

they were big

23:44

yeah i know but they were the other

23:46

ronaldo they were gone

23:48

they were gone already or and if they

23:50

weren't they were hanging around for the

23:52

paycheck right they weren't dominant at

23:55

36 and 37. they were there they were i

23:58

mean ronaldinho was gone like donnery

24:01

was hanging out at red bull like the

24:03

gone like this the idea of 35 36 is

24:06

insane like zlatan is a space alien

24:10

and now he's finally done at 40.

24:12

yeah right but and that's the thing is

24:14

that

24:15

i think it was the apex of like

24:18

sports medicine and nutrition and

24:20

technology that allowed these

24:23

otherworldly other like planetary

24:25

players to go from all right we're gonna

24:27

take the the check at 31

24:30

and now they're in 35 36

24:32

and and as part of that like you said it

24:34

sort of blocks

24:35

players but just look at someone like

24:38

like bale or or or hazard these are guys

24:41

that got their moves at i mean bail

24:44

bale's move was good like he he came

24:46

through like i'm not gonna kill bale but

24:48

hazard got his move at 28 and it's a

24:50

disaster

24:52

basically well all right he never kicked

24:54

on

24:55

ever robert lewandowski is 33 years old

24:58

i just looked it up he's fantastic

25:00

he scored 40 goals last year in the

25:03

league

25:05

in the [ __ ] league man and i get it

25:07

boone's league is a farmer's league and

25:08

i'm the first one to stand in line and

25:10

talk [ __ ] about that but the man scored

25:12

40 goals yeah like

25:15

like you asked you asked in the group

25:16

you know the ballon d'or we should talk

25:18

about that too the ballon d'or um

25:21

you know finalists or nominees were

25:24

named and and there was what a list of

25:26

like 15 20 guys mason [ __ ] melt was

25:28

on there and

25:30

um

25:31

and uh

25:33

you know you were like who who should

25:34

win i'm like it's not listen

25:37

i'm

25:38

the card carrying like president of the

25:41

harry kane fan club right the man had

25:43

the most goals and assists in england

25:46

last year and it's still not really

25:48

close it's not right like it's slowing

25:50

down it should have been lewandowski the

25:51

year before as well absolutely and you

25:53

know what he did he went out and went

25:54

[ __ ] you watch this

25:56

right so he breaks gerd muller's record

25:59

but he did that at 33 years old 32 33

26:02

years old that's not you you have to be

26:04

in a really good team to do that right

26:06

you can't yeah you'll also have to be no

26:08

but you also have to be a one of the

26:10

best players in the world which

26:11

obviously he is but you have to be

26:12

taking care of your body and and all

26:14

that stuff rooney was he would have been

26:16

playing showing up on at 33 he showed up

26:18

[ __ ] based i bet

26:20

you know i think i think rooney's 33 now

26:24

like

26:25

no i'm not even i'm not even sure how

26:27

old he is if i had an over under him i'd

26:30

say 40. but let's see dude he's 35 now

26:34

oh my god

26:35

i ate like milk look at that he's

26:38

35.

26:40

he was done at 26.

26:43

yeah

26:44

jesus christ

26:45

makes me feel great 33 huh yeah well i

26:48

mean that's the thing that i think about

26:49

i don't want to go into a rooney

26:50

digression is this like

26:52

he might be

26:54

the

26:55

one of the most disappointing players

26:57

that i can think of like

26:58

only because he's compared to ronaldo

27:01

right right

27:02

he never kicked on he never got to be

27:05

super fit he was basically

27:07

washed at 30.

27:09

he started at 16.

27:10

but he was looking at john filner

27:13

he was watching he was in mlm

27:16

everton maybe by the way

27:19

he was watched well before that's not

27:20

the point but it certainly was he's 35

27:22

now christ i thought he was 45 like

27:25

no i know but so this is this is what

27:27

i'm saying is that he

27:29

he didn't he had the opportunity and the

27:31

resources but i also feel like that

27:33

really got into overdrive

27:36

about five to ten years later than him

27:38

and that's where you're seeing the

27:39

ronaldo's now i'm not taking anything

27:41

away from the renaults and lewindowskis

27:42

of the world what i'm saying is that

27:43

their opportunity

27:45

has been

27:46

they've seized every second of it

27:49

by soaking in all of this science all

27:51

this nutrition all this everything which

27:53

has elongated their

27:55

dominance from

27:56

from a small period or a medium period

27:58

to just the just like a world domination

28:01

period yeah yeah and that's what that's

28:03

what allows you to become

28:05

super famous and become transcendent

28:07

right it's yeah

28:09

it's not brady at year 15

28:11

it's brady at year 20 when people go

28:14

i

28:15

i don't know a world without him

28:17

right that you become bigger than the

28:18

league right ronaldo's now like i don't

28:21

know a world without him he's bigger

28:23

than the league at this point right yeah

28:25

he's and he literally is bigger than

28:27

those leagues i do have to talk about

28:29

something uh related

28:31

separately from this conversation but i

28:35

have to talk about scotland playing

28:37

israel because i've been sharing with

28:40

you

28:40

disco songs i've been sharing with you

28:44

uh scotland fans

28:46

singing i like to boogie

28:48

uh so scotland beat

28:51

israel their nemesis they have a long

28:53

history of losing to uh israel randomly

28:57

israel was like no no no we want to be

28:59

in europe

29:00

i don't know why that happened anyway if

29:02

azerbaijan can be in it they can be in

29:03

it whatever yeah

29:05

um so they win 3-2 in hamden park which

29:08

is the home of scottish football and

29:09

it's the first time the fans have been

29:11

in the stadium since the pandemic and

29:14

they're

29:15

bonkers

29:17

the game has everything

29:19

they go down immediately

29:21

they tie it up

29:22

they have a penalty in the last minute

29:25

of the first half

29:26

blocked they have a var controversy

29:29

where goal gets reviewed but then stands

29:32

they give up the tying goal on a

29:33

ping-pong shot and then they win it on a

29:36

shin in goal from scott mctominay oh and

29:39

a wonder goal by the aforementioned john

29:41

mcginn and the scenes at the end of this

29:44

uh thing are

29:46

are special and uh i think i need to

29:48

play it but i'll have to just we just

29:51

have to give me a minute to queue it up

29:53

so while you're doing that i want to

29:54

talk a little bit about uh our buddy joe

29:57

at attitude of gratitude consulting um

30:00

if you know the show by now you know our

30:02

friend joe he uh he's helped us with uh

30:05

laurent saving for aveline's college

30:07

fund me saving for my newly in the past

30:10

wedding uh and now my next venture is

30:13

buying a house i was just telling

30:14

laurent so um you know i i annoy the

30:17

hell out of our buddy joe so much uh but

30:19

i am gonna have to call him again

30:20

tomorrow and talk to them about you know

30:22

the best ways to start looking at and

30:25

and you know kind of

30:26

digesting uh mortgage payments which are

30:29

terrifying um

30:31

but uh do us a favor go to

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30:36

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30:38

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30:40

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30:43

he's going to take the time to get to

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30:46

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30:47

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30:48

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uh tell them mike and lauren send you

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all right so laurent what do we got

30:59

this is full time in

31:01

scotland uh this is the scott singing

31:06

i like to boogie

31:07

a:

31:10

song

31:13

and this the backstory behind this look

31:15

at this guy

31:19

so the back story behind this is

31:22

scotland one of the scotland players

31:24

whose name eludes me

31:26

is on his stag do

31:28

and which is the the uh stack of the uh

31:32

bachelor party and he's in drag as the

31:34

singers of this song i like to boogie

31:36

this weird uh 70s

31:39

band that stole some music and

31:41

apparently he makes a video of him

31:43

singing that song and his teammates of

31:45

course

31:46

hammer him because they're like you're

31:48

singing i like to boogie with your team

31:50

and when scotland lasts one and i i'll

31:52

see if i can find uh this one as well

31:55

uh they just and it becomes and it it

31:58

escapes

31:59

from social media

32:01

to the world

32:02

uh and becomes their song i expect that

32:06

i like to boogie will now be the

32:08

scotland the unofficial scotland song

32:11

forever like it's coming home for for

32:13

england did and it's just so scottish

32:16

and

32:17

i was listening to the totally football

32:19

show and they had this younger woman and

32:21

reporter from scotland telling the story

32:23

and she was just over the moon like and

32:25

these are the things that like national

32:26

teams that have these moments that you

32:28

know to loop it back to the us men's

32:30

national team can we have these moments

32:32

can we have a national stadium

32:35

can we get there against el salvador in

32:38

columbus where we have our songs that

32:41

mean more like it's got to mean more

32:44

it's not just a sporting event to go to

32:46

it's our

32:47

let me just finish it's that it's that

32:49

third pillar it's not

32:51

team

32:51

[Music]

32:53

ownership

32:55

and money it's gotta be the supporters

32:57

need to be the third in the try in the

32:59

holy spirit of this whole [ __ ] thing

33:01

like we just need that because okay

33:04

what's missing

33:05

yeah but here's the thing

33:07

we have a [ __ ] version of it just like a

33:09

[ __ ] club

33:10

right like we have the american outlaws

33:12

who stink

33:14

right

33:15

they're just

33:16

they're just second best man i was a big

33:19

part of them for a long time they

33:21

wouldn't sing i like to boogie from a

33:22

stag dude offensively

33:26

pretending they're in iceland or they're

33:28

too busy uh what's that [ __ ] i believe

33:31

that we will win oh my christ almighty

33:34

dude it's just it's like nails on a

33:35

[ __ ] chalkboard i have something to

33:37

say about i believe it will win that

33:39

relates to the wsl woman's scandal just

33:42

please do

33:43

um

33:44

i have a very scary and sad thing to say

33:47

that worries me like so

33:49

the women's league in the us is in

33:52

trouble but an existential crisis

33:54

they had a coach

33:56

who was molesting grooming whatever

33:59

whatever he was doing he was [ __ ]

34:00

with the girls on the team right

34:03

abusing his power maybe some of them

34:05

were okay with it maybe some of them

34:06

weren't it doesn't matter you just can't

34:08

right yeah no it's not something you do

34:10

and the women's team a lot few of the

34:12

players related it to the commissioner

34:14

and they covered it up

34:16

basically we're just like oh whatever

34:17

and this is not because it's all men

34:19

it's a female commissioner

34:22

and they have this existential crisis

34:24

are they going to survive and

34:26

i do have this sort of sinking feeling

34:30

that the market just doesn't

34:32

want all these teams it wants

34:35

five women's team wants just a woman's

34:38

team i don't know like what is woman

34:40

sports supposed to do

34:42

they simply can't survive

34:46

trying to be in the

34:48

cohort of what men's sports are if

34:50

that makes sense like you're never gonna

34:52

you you might not make fifty thousand

34:54

dollars a year because it's just not

34:56

there and don't tell me about equity

34:58

it's just not there like it's not there

35:01

right no no it's not it's

35:03

and it's not fair it's not fair you

35:05

didn't get 150 years of people playing

35:07

it's not fair that you didn't get to

35:09

start in the 20s it's not fair that

35:12

title 9 didn't happen well hold on time

35:13

out all this stuff isn't fair i know

35:15

wait a minute it sucks it's not fair

35:18

if you're trying to

35:21

first of all it's not fair if you're

35:22

trying to compare your game to the men's

35:24

game which you should never [ __ ] do

35:26

don't do it make it something else

35:29

but if you're going to do that

35:32

and i said this in our literally second

35:34

episode ever we got in trouble

35:37

hey we got some i hope are you still

35:38

here are you still here fan

35:40

yeah you're still talking about women's

35:42

sports i want to talk about the

35:43

manchester darby something happened i

35:45

never thought i'd see happen in the

35:47

women's the wsl in england that league's

35:49

doing well but now we'll talk about it

35:51

why is it doing well right it's because

35:53

it's manchester city women and

35:54

manchester united women you talk about

35:56

how oh it's not fair that these clubs

35:58

haven't had the opportunity to be around

36:00

from the 20s of course it's not fair but

36:02

you know what the smart ones did they

36:03

went hmm those brands are worth billions

36:06

of dollars that's right billions with a

36:07

b they have 100 years mostly more

36:11

more than that more

36:13

right a lot of these clubs have more

36:14

than 112 20 years of [ __ ] equity and

36:18

sweat equity and all the the community

36:20

involvement and everything

36:22

and even literally has an even worse

36:23

thing it was banned women weren't

36:26

allowed to play for 70 years they banned

36:28

it

36:29

i'm even crazy and i'm not saying for a

36:32

second that i don't side

36:34

side with the fact that this is patently

36:36

ridiculous

36:37

as i remember that my battery is dying

36:40

and

36:42

it what you need to

36:44

realize is that you get to either do

36:46

your own thing and swim or sink and god

36:48

bless you

36:49

or

36:50

you use those trademarks those logos

36:53

those crests that have been worth

36:55

everything that you've ever wanted you

36:57

get to have who's the best player on

36:59

manchester city women

37:01

uh well the captain is steph houghton

37:03

but uh okay let's go ahead and page

37:05

ellen page ellen

37:11

i just didn't remember with the name now

37:13

uh

37:14

the england striker i can't remember her

37:16

name's ellen but it doesn't matter what

37:18

was the captain's name

37:19

steph houghton yeah awesome you would

37:21

have a hounton jersey in the manchester

37:24

city pro shop or club shop or whatever

37:26

right next to kevin de bruyne right next

37:28

to phil foden's jersey that's what you

37:30

would get

37:31

right there's no question about that so

37:33

if you had and i said again go back to

37:35

our literally second episode ever i went

37:37

on this whole diatribe about it it's

37:39

actually one of the only times i've been

37:40

coherent on this [ __ ] show we're

37:41

doing 108 episodes okay where you

37:44

basically have

37:45

uh pick whatever league you want

37:48

right the wnba stop it with this new

37:50

york liberty [ __ ] if you're a new york

37:52

knicks women you're in madison square

37:54

garden you're not playing in [ __ ]

37:56

westchester you're in msg you're hanging

37:58

out you're getting you know what

38:01

the rangers i'll use personally me right

38:03

if the rangers instead of the new york

38:05

riveters which don't even [ __ ] get me

38:07

started

38:08

yeah

38:09

the new york rosie the riveters is a

38:12

[ __ ] team name and if you would have

38:14

had the arc rangers women

38:16

and let's say they're playing the new

38:17

york islanders women well that's rivalry

38:20

game that's real generally i don't i

38:23

wouldn't probably watch most of it

38:25

there's no contact in women's hockey

38:27

it's fine do i watch the usa canada gold

38:30

medal game because they're the only two

38:31

teams that can [ __ ] skate in the

38:33

world in the olympics yep

38:35

and it's usually pretty [ __ ] good the

38:38

swedes can escape dude they get beat by

38:40

10 [ __ ] goals it's not even close

38:42

okay they do

38:44

like every time it's ridiculous russia

38:46

not even [ __ ] close but the point is

38:48

that usa canada on equal footing roughly

38:51

and it's usually a pretty good hockey

38:52

game but the point is i watch that

38:54

because a i know it's going to be good

38:55

and b i [ __ ] hate canada so if you

38:58

have this where you go

39:00

you wean into

39:02

everything that you feel during the

39:04

olympics basically that that that

39:06

involvement that patriotism

39:08

and here's the perfect example

39:10

manchester darby in an international

39:12

break

39:13

city

39:14

versus manchester united got the largest

39:16

reading of any women's game in england

39:19

they had 1.2 million viewers that's

39:21

bigger than any premier league game in

39:24

the us

39:26

i believe that we don't get we don't get

39:28

over one and a half million to watch a

39:30

premier league game in the us on nbc no

39:32

chance that's that was the biggest game

39:34

and not only that

39:36

there was a straight red

39:38

in a way oh

39:39

she went in hard and [ __ ] put her

39:42

spikes in

39:44

that's awesome

39:46

that's awesome i was so proud i was like

39:48

yes draw blood

39:52

that dude never see that in women's

39:54

[ __ ] and if

40:03

and if you were watching instead of you

40:06

[ __ ] elbow me i'm putting you in the

40:08

goddamn movie now let me ask you this

40:09

this is important if you were just

40:11

happening by

40:13

and you saw sky blue fc

40:15

versus the the lady red devils

40:18

would you give a [ __ ] no they were would

40:21

you blue fc no if they weren't yeah

40:25

right that's there's so much there any

40:28

even if you watch if you tune in you

40:29

wouldn't have that that

40:32

involvement you wouldn't feel like this

40:34

is your club as well right you're

40:37

basically co-opting every fan that

40:39

manchester city has okay bad example but

40:41

like every club

40:44

all of their fans would have another

40:46

thing to root for

40:47

okay

40:50

we came out of sports not being around

40:52

for so long it was in this moment where

40:54

i was like

40:55

yeah

40:56

i would watch it i would

40:58

because i'm dying for anything at this

41:00

point right and that was a year ago

41:03

they are fired up they get a draw down a

41:05

man they're [ __ ] fired up my team has

41:07

had a bad bad bad bad season so

41:11

in the women's super league in england

41:14

basically one loss two losses it's over

41:16

right so city have already got three

41:18

losses they're done they had too many

41:20

injuries too many players went down

41:22

whatever they lost in the they already

41:24

out of the champions league because of

41:25

real madrid

41:26

but you know chelsea is a [ __ ]

41:28

juggernaut and ars and arsenal are

41:30

juggernaut and

41:32

hey you know what you know who else is

41:33

doing well in the women's super league

41:35

brighton ladies

41:38

that's it that's it

41:41

oh the lady gulls

41:44

nice but uh yeah i really i really i

41:46

really do i do like the wsl it might be

41:48

anglophile again i don't know

41:51

but the quality is better it's still

41:53

more accessible the bbc actually

41:56

doesn't condescend and bring up other

41:58

[ __ ] it's just like the women are

42:00

playing and it's on and the guys who are

42:03

just like

42:04

i went to the game they don't have like

42:06

when don't have i know this sounds weird

42:08

but i'm gonna say

42:09

they don't have like dedicated

42:12

female reporters to do it they just have

42:14

alan shearer went to the newcastle game

42:16

you're just like oh

42:18

like they don't belittle it by being

42:19

like well this is the woman's thing

42:21

they're like no the guardian is gonna

42:23

have barry glen dang who follows

42:25

sunderland go cover this [ __ ] women's

42:28

game and he's gonna go oh this was good

42:30

and you're like thank you respect it

42:33

with like the best of the best like ian

42:36

dark doing women's games is good or like

42:38

but don't belittle it with

42:40

these i don't i don't i don't i know

42:41

that's just maybe that doesn't make

42:43

sense

42:44

i like her it's fine

42:45

[Laughter]

42:48

but she they just roll her ass out right

42:50

like it's just like oh this woman's

42:51

thinking let's get julie

42:53

right exactly

42:54

whereas you kind of want you kind of

42:57

want

42:58

maybe as a man to for it to be covered i

43:01

want my expected coverage right it would

43:04

be you know if there was nfl football or

43:07

like why doesn't woj cover the [ __ ]

43:10

women's the the the the wnba like

43:13

there's no word bombs and that's what

43:14

i'm saying but you would respect it more

43:16

right you might be like

43:18

it's not my it's not separated

43:20

it's because it has to be so segmented

43:23

and segregated right and if it didn't

43:25

have to be if it was just basketball

43:27

with women

43:28

if it wasn't women's basketball it was

43:30

basketball with women if it's soccer

43:32

with women instead of in soccer with men

43:34

right

43:35

totally different things but they're

43:37

just

43:37

they live in the same ecosystem and

43:41

you basically have the same clubs right

43:43

they're basically it's just another

43:45

pro line in the p l for many more but

43:48

the way that it's covered it matters

43:49

like i know i know you want that's true

43:51

right and there should be women covering

43:53

men it isn't like that it's not yes in

43:56

that way right

43:57

yeah it's just that i want the best

43:59

people covering the game right so i

44:00

agree when you roll out julie foughty

44:02

instead of uh stuart robson

44:05

stuart robson yeah he's good or ian dark

44:07

it it cheapens it a little you're like

44:09

oh this must mean it's a women's thing i

44:11

don't know maybe that doesn't make sense

44:12

no in many ways i mean listen there's

44:14

going to be people who listen to this

44:16

and go you bigots you pricks you sons of

44:18

[ __ ] and it's not that they'll just

44:20

do that no matter what we do right of

44:22

course they are but that's the opposite

44:24

of what we're saying what we're saying

44:25

is this is how it's been done for x

44:27

amount of years we're also not saying

44:30

it's perfect but what we're saying is

44:31

that when the biggest games and and the

44:33

biggest occasions happen this is how it

44:35

looks and this is how it sounds and what

44:38

we wish for the women's game is the

44:40

exact same thing the exact same [ __ ]

44:43

i want [ __ ] wodge bombs in the wnba

44:46

all of them he doesn't even cover it all

44:48

of it no what is that that means what

44:50

that means because it's not important if

44:52

roach isn't doing it it's not important

44:54

exactly

44:55

and what they and until you get a female

44:58

woj

44:59

you just get the you know how about you

45:01

have the other guy do it right so

45:04

there's

45:05

yeah there's a lot that's what i do like

45:06

about i've always said in england is

45:08

they do have their top reporters are

45:10

like i'm going to this game like one guy

45:13

was like rory smith from the times is

45:15

like i went to chelsea

45:17

women's and then i went to stanford

45:18

bridge the same day that he just skipped

45:20

town right that's awesome that's how it

45:23

should that's great and and and before

45:25

long you won't have to go anywhere

45:26

because chelsea women are going to be

45:28

playing at stanford bridge and it's

45:29

going to be great because they're really

45:31

[ __ ] good well they're really good

45:32

but like spurs women plays

45:34

somewhere else and they play at the bit

45:37

at the stadium like two or three times a

45:39

year and they hold up so we've got we're

45:41

in this sort of like lane of morality

45:43

and i wondered if you had any more

45:45

newcastle takes uh left

45:48

because i'm sort of super curious about

45:50

this

45:52

i don't know why football fans have to

45:54

become

45:55

the moral keepers like why should they

45:57

[ __ ] care like i've just been

45:59

thinking about it a lot well who's the

46:00

only in the new castle scenario who are

46:02

the only football fans who are not

46:04

suddenly moral about things

46:07

it's newcastle fans right so it's no no

46:10

no what i'm telling you is and you've

46:12

told me this many times everybody should

46:14

have a sheik right

46:16

so

46:18

i'm mad at you because i don't have a

46:20

sheik so what am i gonna do about it i'm

46:22

gonna [ __ ] moan complain about human

46:24

rights violations in a third world

46:26

country that

46:28

do do or do not happen of course they

46:30

happen i'm not saying i'm not denying

46:31

this they absolutely happen to they

46:33

absolutely

46:34

but what i'm saying is exactly right

46:36

the problem

46:38

is that

46:40

there's

46:42

okay so there was just an nfl game at

46:44

tottenham stadium yesterday none of that

46:46

money is going to be going to spurs

46:47

which frustrates the [ __ ] out of me but

46:49

otherwise what a clever way

46:52

to fight back against the cities against

46:54

the

46:55

the the big wigs right

46:57

what a clever way to get up

47:00

literally just generate more revenue as

47:03

a club and then punch back right so

47:05

you're going to be punching on even

47:06

ground or somewhat

47:08

but it just it feels like a [ __ ]

47:11

cartoon when you have manchester city be

47:13

the the

47:14

the you know the biggest and the richest

47:16

club in the land and then you have

47:18

somebody come in who's adding a zero

47:21

like it's not it's not like we're on

47:22

equal footing with man city now we we're

47:25

dwarfing you by what did we say 12 times

47:28

yeah they have

47:29

360 billion

47:34

i don't think it's the i don't think

47:36

it's the the human rights stuff or

47:38

whatever it's just

47:40

it's the literal

47:41

rest of the country going come on man

47:44

like that's [ __ ]

47:46

right yeah yeah i know i know but

47:48

you get you do get with the journalists

47:51

who are all

47:53

for lack of a better word they're all

47:54

basically trained in the same

47:57

school no not baseball right they're

47:59

football writers but they they're

48:00

they're they're baseball writers yes yes

48:04

they're holding on to some this ideal

48:06

this community thing like it's like dude

48:08

this what you're not gonna support like

48:10

what are you talking about like i'm not

48:12

gonna vote for this guy for the hall of

48:14

fame because it's like

48:15

kids literally

48:17

dancing outside of st james's park with

48:20

mom's [ __ ] kitchen towels on their

48:22

head

48:24

there were literally dozens of them all

48:26

dressed like saudi chicks

48:28

yeah singing like they were over the

48:31

moon they're off they're [ __ ] pumped

48:33

now buried in this and this is one of

48:35

these things where i get where i get

48:37

pissed off about the sexism thing

48:39

this woman

48:41

stavely stay re whatever she brokered

48:43

the man city deal because she's like a

48:46

big shot [ __ ] saudi money dealer she

48:50

brokered a deal that got shake monster

48:52

he wasn't gonna buy matches he doesn't

48:53

know who the [ __ ] he doesn't know where

48:54

manchester is

48:56

right

48:57

still doesn't and they and they have

48:58

this other guy and she broke her death

48:59

deal then she she tries for four years

49:02

to get this new castle deal over the

49:04

line she did the initial bid of 300

49:07

million with a different partner they

49:09

didn't rejected it then she went back

49:10

and got the saudis then this thing we

49:13

have a literal [ __ ] uh ted lasso

49:16

owner

49:17

has come in a beautiful woman who was a

49:19

model now is a badass [ __ ]

49:23

financial wits who just got this deal

49:25

done she's gonna be the chairman of

49:27

newcastle united and all we're talking

49:28

about is the saudis how about

49:30

this woman's is [ __ ] incredible like

49:33

we talked about marina

49:34

scaria like

49:36

there's women in football at the highest

49:38

levels taking over teams at the best

49:41

clubs in the world and they're being

49:43

buried like this should be a [ __ ]

49:45

celebration like hey wsl why didn't you

49:48

get her as an owner what the [ __ ] were

49:50

you doing

49:51

[ __ ] commissioner

49:53

yeah exactly like because she would have

49:54

taken that coach

49:56

by the throat and throwing them off of

49:58

the [ __ ]

49:59

the bridge okay yeah yeah so there's

50:01

these things that are happening that are

50:03

just like

50:04

why don't why

50:05

there's narratives that are just like

50:06

okay we want to talk about this let's

50:08

talk about this amazing woman who broken

50:10

this [ __ ] deal it's incredible who's

50:12

out in front she's on sky she literally

50:15

said newcastle is going to win the

50:16

league or the champions league within

50:18

five to ten years wow

50:20

yeah that's amazing

50:22

i don't know it's weird and she's been

50:24

in football for 10 years she's been a

50:26

part of the two biggest deals in the

50:28

world transformative deals whether you

50:30

agree with them or not

50:31

manchester city completely changed

50:33

english football and probably saved

50:36

arsenal by buying their shitty players

50:38

for way too much money

50:41

like samuel could you then argue that

50:44

this woman has ruined football and why

50:46

isn't there more of an argument about

50:48

that

50:50

let's talk about her fine

50:52

no no i'm not i'm not saying that

50:54

but that's fine

50:55

i feel like that would be a good that

50:57

would be a column that would get some

50:59

attention right right you want to write

51:01

it instead of singing

51:02

the winner of football right instead of

51:04

singing her praise back this woman came

51:07

in and she [ __ ] everything up and now

51:09

we have to deal with

51:11

man city and newcastle okay she's to

51:14

blame if yeah it was her if somebody

51:17

wrote that story i think you'd get some

51:19

i think you get some clicks is it pcp

51:21

capital wow that's a strange name amanda

51:24

i'm going to say her name properly

51:25

amanda stavely from the norf

51:29

yeah from the north yeah amanda stavely

51:32

from ripon yeah that's her she did both

51:35

the deals mm-hmm

51:36

pcp capital that is a strange [ __ ]

51:39

that's that's yeah

51:43

we're gonna let's you know what i think

51:45

we're gonna go on pcp capital because

51:49

the germans used it

51:51

yeah all right

51:53

all right doc ellis take us home

51:54

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