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025: Ultimate Guide to Traveling with Kids: Top Mindset Hacks and Travel Essentials
Episode 2516th January 2024 • Transform With Travel • Kelly Tolliday
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After traveling to over 40 countries and now 10 countries with her children, Kelly Tolliday of Rising Nature Retreats is here today on a solo episode to discuss her top mindset hacks, travel strategies and products to help make traveling with kids as easy and stress-free as possible.

What We Discuss:

  • How to regulate your own emotions
  • How to calm sensory-seeking children on long travel days
  • Naming your triggers and identifying strategies
  • Ensuring you have solo time to rest and recover
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Speaker:

Here we go.

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Welcome to the transform with travel

podcast, where we share stories of

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personal transformation and life

lessons through our experiences of

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traveling and exploring the world.

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Travel is the ultimate accelerator

for personal growth, and it can be

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the root catalyst for the pivots and

plot twists we make in our lives.

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I'm your host, Kelly Tolede, and

it's my mission to inspire you to

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live life to its fullest, travel with

an open mind and heart, and let the

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world show you a new perspective.

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I'm so grateful you're here with

us today, so let's dive right in.

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Happy exploring!

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Kelly: Hello, everyone.

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Thanks for tuning in.

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My name is Kelly Talladay, and I'm your

host of the Transform with Travel podcast.

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Earlier this year at the very first

episode of the year, I mentioned that

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we are going to be changing the format

a little bit of this podcast where

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instead of weekly guest interview

episodes, we are moving to bi weekly.

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And in between the guest interviews, I'm

going to be sharing shorter episodes.

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more bite sized episodes where I share

travel stories, where I share travel

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hacks, travel tips, just ways to be

able to bring my experience as a self

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proclaimed veteran traveler at this

stage, having traveled to 40 plus

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countries and living all over the world.

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I really want to be able to share a

lot of the experience that I have,

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a lot of the knowledge as well as

the funny stories, the mishaps,

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just, there's so much to share.

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So I want to be able to offer.

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Not only the long form conversations

that are anywhere between 45 minutes

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to 60 minutes, but also be able to

offer these 5 to 10 minute episodes

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where you're really able to get a lot

of value in a short amount of time.

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Because I know we are all short on time.

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So in today's episode,

I'm going to be sharing.

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Some of my top tips for family travel.

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I think that's one of the biggest

questions that I get on Instagram

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from friends from people all over

the world is how can I travel with

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a little more ease with my family?

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I'm really anxious to

go on this road trip.

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I'm really anxious to go on our first

flight with our toddler or our baby

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How do you manage jet lag like all

of those things I get asked all the

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time as well as my top products So

people come to me all the time when

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they're building their baby registry

and they're like Kelly I need to know

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what do I need to put on this registry?

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That's travel related That's gonna help

me travel more with my baby or with

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my toddler so that is something that

I'm gonna be sharing with you today

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and Some of it is gonna be more like

emotional mental Strategies like mindset

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strategies and others are gonna be very

practical Things as well as products

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that you might want to look out for.

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I will link all of the

products in the show notes.,.

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So it's very easy for you to click and

go to Amazon or whatever store it is.

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And yeah, my biggest goal is to get

more families out there on the road.

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I am definitely still learning.

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I have a three year

old and a one year old.

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The three year old has been to

seven or eight countries at this.

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stage, my one year old has been to

Greece and at the airing of this

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episode she will have traveled her

way through the southeast Asia.

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So lord knows how that's gonna go as

I'm, as I'm saying this out loud, it has

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not happened yet but it's something that

I'm definitely still learning as I go

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but I have a lot of experience so far.

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So.

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/The number one tip, the number one piece

of advice that I can give to families who

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want to start traveling but are nervous or

anxious or overwhelmed is that it, at the

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end of the day, the vibe, the energy, the

mood of the family, it starts with you.

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You are the leader of your family and

not just from what you do on a day to day

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basis but also the mood that you set as

the leader of your family trickles down

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all the way through to your kids, right?

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So while yes, there are tips

that you can do to help.

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Manage meltdowns and, you know, get

energy out and whatever it is, at

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the end of the day, they are going

to have a meltdown at some stage.

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And the same way that you feel

stressed and anxious sometimes

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traveling, your kids feel that too.

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They're out of their routine.

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They're out of nap time.

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It's a new environment.

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They're feeling all the

anxiety at the airport as well.

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And so just the same way that

they're having that meltdown,

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you're feeling that too.

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And so we have to come

from a place of calm.

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Right?

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So, chaos breeds more chaos.

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So if you're meeting your kid's chaos,

or your kid's meltdown, or tantrum, or

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just, you know, emotional uproar, with

more chaos and yelling at them to just sit

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down and be quiet and shhh, what are you

doing, get off the floor, like, yelling

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at them, which I, trust me, I've been

there, so I know exactly what that's like.

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You just want to get from one gate to

the next gate without somebody ripping

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their pants off and running around.

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And hopefully that's your three

year old and not your husband.

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So, so The thing that we have to

remember is it starts with us.

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When you see the meltdown starting

to happen, because we all know the

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signs and symptoms of that, we have

to start our emotional regulation

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practices well before that.

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Whatever that looks like for you, maybe

that's deep breathing, maybe that's going

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for a walk just for two minutes on your

own, maybe that's having a little space

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to stretch in the airport, maybe it's a

meditation like music that you're just

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playing softly in the background and

your headphones, you find what works for

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you, but yeah, yeah, It starts with you.

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We need to be emotionally regulated,

calm, to be able to meet the meltdown

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in a way that's going to tell our child

that they are safe, to be able to have

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those feelings, but then be able to

return back to neutral a lot faster,

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because like I said, chaos breeds chaos,

and Your perception of what's happening

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around you is only going to feel more

heightened and more stressed if we're

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coming at it from Fight or flight if

we're coming at it from this, you know,

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it's got to stop right now You know

put put a lid on it type of thing.

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It's only gonna feel feel worse for you

And something that I always remind myself

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is that, yeah, maybe people are annoyed

on the plane because my baby's crying.

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Maybe someone is pissed that they're

sitting next to a three year old,

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but I don't know this person.

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It's not going to matter in three

hours from now and four hours from now.

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They're going to carry on with

their day and not even remember it.

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And so it's just one of those things

that We have to be coming at it from

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a place of calm and from a place

of regulation so that our kids can

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be, can model that behavior, right?

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And so something that Emily

Calvo, who is a licensed mental

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health counselor, she was on the

podcast back in December of:

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She talks about not trying

to hide these anxieties away.

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Oftentimes you'll hear people say, you

know, it's just expect the meltdown.

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It's gonna happen.

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Lower your barometer of, you know, what

you're expecting out of this situation.

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And while yes, even that's

That's something that I say too.

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It's not necessarily helpful for

somebody who has anxiety about

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traveling with their family, it's

not going to go away just because

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you're quote unquote lowering the bar.

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In the moment, in your mind,

you can say, yeah, of course

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I'm going to lower the bar.

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But then in the moment of being in that

heightened state of stress and this little

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like microcosm of chaos that is an airport

and an airplane with a baby and a toddler.

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It doesn't help, right?

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And so Emily says pre trip, the same

way that we'll make a packing list

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of your toothbrush, your toothpaste,

your shoes, your socks, your this,

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your that, all the things also write

out a list of what your triggers are.

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So if you're triggered at home around

your child being a picky eater, if

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you're triggered around your child

not sleeping through the night, if

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you're triggered around loud sounds

and screaming and your child having

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a physical tantrum on the floor and

in the middle of a store at home.

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Those are also going to be triggers that

are going to happen when you're traveling.

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So write them out, put a name to it.

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Don't try to push it or hide it under the

rug and then create strategies for them.

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Okay.

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If I get to a restaurant where there is

only escargot on the menu, but my child

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will literally only eat chicken nuggets.

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What is my strategy?

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Am I going to have snacks on me?

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Should I bring fruit with me?

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What are we going to do?

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If my trigger is my baby not sleeping

through the night, what is my strategy

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when my baby is jet lagged, or I, she just

wakes up and she's not sleeping very well.

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What's my strategy for that?

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If my trigger is, you know, loud sounds

and chaos and being trapped in a seat and

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not being able to let my baby move around,

what is my strategy going to be for that?

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And that is something where if you

actually don't know how to name

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your triggers, it's something that

I highly recommend actually working

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with a therapist or a licensed

mental health counselor to be able

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to note those triggers out for you.

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So that's something that's been

really helpful for us as a family.

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So Number one, it starts with you.

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Emotional regulation.

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Find what works for you to be

able to calm yourself before

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you try to calm your child.

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Number two, know what your triggers are

in terms of being out of your comfort

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zone and write your strategies out for

them so that you, in that moment, you

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can say, yes, I'm feeling triggered and

I have a strategy for that instead of

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trying to just like shush your child

into submission basically because it's,

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we all know that's not going to work.

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Number three is.

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Getting energy out and sensory input

for your child input and output, right?

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So some children are just happy go

lucky just like sit in the stroller

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for hours and fine other children

like my children They got a run.

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They got to get that energy out.

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They got a jump They got to go upside

down and the same of course is gonna be

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when they're traveling So what we always

try to do is my husband, one of his

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triggers is being late to the airport

or like running late to the flight.

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So we're always at the airport

like three hours beforehand.

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And what that means is we have a lot

of time, which is great because then

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we let them run around the airport.

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We find an empty gate in the

airport and we let them run around.

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Or perhaps if you're on a road trip,

just find a little like a rest stop on

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the road and let them run around in the

little green area that they usually have.

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We let them run around empty gates.

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Usually sometimes there's

play spaces in each terminal.

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I have yet to find a terminal that hasn't

had even the most basic play space.

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So that's, even though it's probably

like the most germy place on earth,

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whatever, let them just run around.

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If you're trapped in a seat, let's say on

an airplane and your child starts getting

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that just restlessness, literally, if

they're, if they're small enough, I would

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say like three and under maybe, just

play a game with them or you just flip

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them upside down in their seat, like hold

them up and flip them upside down a couple

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times so they get that sensory input.

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Some kids need more sensory input and

some kids need more sensory output.

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And just knowing what, what works

for your kid and Emily Calvo,

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also who I just mentioned in the

December podcast, she talks about

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bringing Play Doh on the plane.

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which is messy, but that molding

and really using something with your

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hands that helps them get that sensory

input as well, which is awesome.

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So getting that energy out and then

when you land or when you arrive at

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your new country or your, your new

town, do some research ahead of time

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and find the coolest parks to go to.

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I have literally have a list.

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of places in my phone of the coolest

parks around the world that we've been

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to because your kid's not going to want

to go to a museum every day, right?

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You got to think about what your child,

what's going to work for your child

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and also what's going to work for you.

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And so do some research, find some really

cool indoor or outdoor play spaces that

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they can get that energy out as well.

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It's just going to help

regulate them even more.

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So, number four is

taking turns as partners.

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If you're traveling with a partner, if

you're traveling with perhaps a family

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member, just if you have a duo with you,

this is where this works, and then I

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have a suggestion if you're by yourself.

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Your child is probably gonna have to nap

or at least have some downtime during the

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day, most likely, depending on the age.

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Of course, I'm coming at this from

toddler and baby perspective, but

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even I've talking to fr, I've talked

to friends who have seven-year-olds,

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eight year olds, nine year olds,

and everyone needs a little bit of

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downtime take turns as partners.

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If your partner is someone who really

likes to have quiet time and home time

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and they like to rest at the hotel,

they like to enjoy the amenities of the

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hotel, maybe while your child's resting

or taking a nap, they can stay and

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watch TV and watch a movie and have that

downtime, and then you can go to the

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spa, you can go do that yoga class, you

can do that tour you wanted to do but

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you know it's not suitable for children.

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And vice versa, then swap the next day.

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You're the one that stays back at

the hotel and hangs with the kids.

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And then your partner gets to go

do something that they want to do.

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My partner, my husband, he

loves to just hang at the hotel.

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Like he likes to have a

couple hours of just resting.

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Whereas I like to fill my

day up with everything.

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So he's always like, yeah,

I'll stay back with the kids.

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We'll watch a movie and you

go do the things that I don't.

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Want to do so it works really well for us.

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So taking turns with your partners

of having kind of off times and solo

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times, that solo time is so important

for you to just kind of like recuperate,

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bring your energy back to yourself

and then be able to give that back

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to your family as you're traveling.

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So.

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If you're by yourself traveling or

if you and your partner want to go do

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something on your own without the kids

and you're on, let's say, a longer

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trip, I have been a big proponent of

talking to the hotels or the villas or

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the Airbnbs that I work with for vetted

and recommended nannies or babysitters.

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Of course, this is totally up to

your personal preference, and this

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is something that you really have to

get a feel for the person when they

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come in, but we have worked with some

incredible babysitters and nannies around

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the world that have been recommended

by the villas that we've stayed at

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or the hotels that we've stayed at.

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There's also some great nanny

services online, like in Ireland,

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there's one called littlesitters.

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ie, and they're all police vetted.

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And they all have their background checks

done, and we had amazing sitters through

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Dublin, through Killarney, through Galway.

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I would, I have their numbers, and

I would happily, like, reach out

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to them if we went back to Ireland.

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And it was just a way for me and

my husband to get out and have some

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dinner by ourselves and feel like

this trip is also for us as well.

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So those are some of my top

tips for traveling with kids.

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One, it starts with you.

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Emotional regulation, meet

the chaos with calm first.

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You have to become calm before you

start to try to regulate your children.

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And it also just helps you see the

world with a little bit more of an

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objective, neutral view rather than

coming at it through the survival, fight

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or flight, just absolute shit show.

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Number two.

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Number Write your triggers out as if

you're doing your packing list, like write

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your triggers out, what triggers you at

home, what gives you anxiety at home when

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you go to a restaurant and something goes

off, like what was that that made you feel

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really anxious or angry or frustrated,

write all of those out and then create

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strategies for them so that you can Bye.

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Bye.

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In the moment, know, have a tool

in your toolkit to pull out and be

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like, okay, I know what to do in this

situation because it works at home.

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Number three is that energy output,

that sensory input, so let them run

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around empty gates at the airport.

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Find play spaces inside

the airport terminals.

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If there's rest stops on your road

trip, let them run around in the grass.

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If you're stuck in your seat on

an airplane, just flip them, flip

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them upside down a couple times

or bring some Play Doh with you.

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And just find ways for sensory seeking

children to get that in and or out so that

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they feel a little more regulated as well.

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Number four was taking turns as partners.

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So if one partner stays back and wants to

have a little rest with the kids and you

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get to go out and go take a walk, take

a run, go get a massage, whatever that

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looks like, and then vice versa flipping.

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And then also if you're by yourself

traveling with kids and or you

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and your partner want to go have

a night out, being able to trust.

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The recommendations of villas and Airbnbs.

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Of course, this is totally

personal preference.

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I have some people who would have

some friends who literally would

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do not feel comfortable with that.

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And I 100 percent respect that.

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But reaching out to people in the local

area that you're going to be staying at

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and having a nanny or a babysitter giving

you some some very well deserved time off.

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Now, the very, very last one

I wanted to touch on before

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I go into products is sleep.

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So I mentioned that one of

my triggers is around sleep.

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I get the thing that makes me the most

frustrated, the most angry, the most

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zero to a hundred like that is sleep.

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And so we're, we go to a lot of

countries where the jet lag is real.

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It's a 12 hour time difference.

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It's a five hour time difference.

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And even just like a one or

a two hour time difference

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can really throw a baby off.

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So.

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What I have had to learn is Letting

go of those really tight sleep

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schedules that I keep with my family.

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I'm pretty strict at home and Just, again,

telling someone who has like anxiety

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around sleep just to let the sleep plan

go isn't always necessarily helpful, but

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I have had now three years experience

of traveling all over the world with

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our little ones and that is the number

one thing that I've had to practice.

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So even if it doesn't feel possible

for you to let your kids skip a nap or,

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you know, go two hours past bedtime,

I recommend just trying baby steps, so

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maybe just seeing, okay, maybe we're

still going to have that hard stop at 7 p.

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m.

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for bedtime, but maybe let's see if we can

push during the day a little bit, or maybe

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we can plan our long road trip from one

town to the next town around the midday

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nap so that they can get that nap in.

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And just kind of testing your boundaries

around how comfortable you are about

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letting some of those sleep schedules go.

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Because the more that I've been

able to kind of relax into letting

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some of those sleep schedules go,

the more that we as a family, as a

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whole, are able to enjoy the trip.

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And yeah, sometimes that means

sleep is an absolute mess, you know?

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And sometimes that means I didn't

sleep very well that whole trip, but

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during the day we were able to actually

enjoy ourselves as a family instead of

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revolving the entire day around nap times.

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So that's the very last one that I have.

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So I wanted to move like from sleep into

products because that's the number one

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thing that I get asked is what are some

things that you take with you on your trip

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so that it is easy to be able to replicate

this little perfect cocoon that we create

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at home if you're like me with your

sleep, with your baby's sleep at least.

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So my number one products that

don't take up a lot of space

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in your bags is a slumber pod.

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It's an amazing product.

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It goes over the pack and play

or over the mini cot that you

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might bring for your baby.

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And it's like a blackout tent.

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And the new versions of the slumber

pod are great because they have

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mesh lining so that there's actually

some breathability going through it.

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And they have a little pocket for

a fan that you can plug in and they

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have a pocket for a sleep monitor.

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So it's, it's like a little tent.

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It doesn't take up that

much room in your bag.

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And it allows you to maybe have

one hotel room and you put your

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babies caught in the hotel room.

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The slumber pod.

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Over the baby's cot and then it's a

blackout room for them, but you can still

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have the lights on or watch TV and it's

able to, it's a great way in case there's

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not a lot of space where you're staying to

be able to keep the whole family together.

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There's no connecting

rooms, that kind of thing.

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The next one for sleep is

a Yogi ROM sound machine.

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It's a tiny circular sound machine

that plays a couple different

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sounds at varying levels.

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to be, but it's super small, which is

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great because you can throw it in the

stroller if you're out and about and you

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want your baby to sleep in the stroller.

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We've used it on the plane.

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We've used it, you know,

obviously for nighttime at sleep.

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So that's a really super

small portable sound machine.

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Another thing that you can get is,

is portable blackout curtains if you

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weren't going to use a slumber pod.

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There are like reusable blackout curtains

that you can stick using like these

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rubber stickers on windows in hotels.

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So that's another great way

to have a blackout room.

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But usually that's more so for Airbnbs

if you're not sure what the curtain

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situation is going to be like.

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Most hotels have great blackout curtains.

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That one's not so much necessary but

it is nice to have something that

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can be portable so you're not using.

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A cheaper version of that might

just be using like garbage bags

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and painters tape on the wall.

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We've used everything.

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If you can tell I'm obsessed about sleep,

so I think that's it for sleep, but

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the next one, a couple other products

that are really, really great for the.

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plane or a road trip, a busy board.

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So a Montessori busy board,

it's like 10 to 20 on Amazon.

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There's all these different

buckles that they push in and out.

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There's things that they can, you

know, rip off and stick back on.

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It's just a really great way to keep your

child busy without having to use an iPad.

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Or if you've used the iPad for four

hours, like we have, and you're like,

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all right, this kid needs a break.

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Here's the busy board.

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We love that Montessori busy boards.

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Magnetic drawing boards are great

because while yes, coloring, Crayons

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and pen and paper are awesome that

you could just find the crayons all

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over the floor and you're constantly

bending down and picking up the crayons.

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So a magnetic drawing board is great

because they can just swipe it and it's

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clean again, you don't have to have a

new paper and typically the magnetic

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drawing utensil is like attached to the

board so they can't ever freaking lose

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it because their kids are really good

at throwing things all over the plane.

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So magnetic drawing board is awesome.

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And then, like I mentioned, an iPad, a

Kindle, a Fire, if you are not above using

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some sort of tablet, I, it's a really

great tool to use it when you need it.

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It helps them kind of just zone in on

their, on their show for a little bit.

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There's also other

things that you can use.

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They have, you know,

drawing games on the iPad.

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There's lots of educational

games that you can use.

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And while we personally don't

use tablets at home, my oldest

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will definitely watch TV at home.

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the tablet itself she doesn't use at home.

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That's just a personal preference but we

keep the iPad specifically for flights.

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And she knows, like, we're going to

Thailand and she's like, I get my iPad.

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I get my snacks.

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I'm like, cool.

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Yeah, girl, you got it.

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And then the last thing for

the flight is painter's tape.

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So if you can get like a roll of

painter's tape, you can stick it.

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This is more for maybe like 18 months and

younger, but you can stick painter's tape

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on the back of the seat or on the window.

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And then they just like, Try to take

it off and put it back on, take it

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off and put it back on, and that's a

really cheap toy to be able to use.

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Oh, and then Emily Calvo

mentioned the Play Doh.

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That's also a great, a great option too.

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So I mentioned a couple things to bring

on the plane, and that's really just it.

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I've seen moms on Instagram just

have an entire fishing tackle box.

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Like three levels worth of drawers

of all these different toys

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and snacks and this and that.

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And yeah, maybe that's a thing.

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Effective, but man that literally

gives me stress just looking at that.

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I, my biggest motto is less is

more, less is more, less is more.

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Three to four staple toys,

an iPad, a handful of snacks.

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You can always get snacks, although

overpriced, but you can always get snacks

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at the airport, like less is more in your

bag that also helps breed a more calm.

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environment for you.

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So you're not just literally rummaging

through a bag to find the tiniest little

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toy in the bottom of the bag, or you're

just picking up shit all over the floor on

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the airplane or the terminal or your car.

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It's just less is more.

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Minimalist as much as possible.

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I know it doesn't seem possible

with kids, but it actually is.

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The more that we've implemented this as

a family, The more it, it is just easier.

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It's just she asks for a toy,

Nope, sorry, I don't have it.

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What do we have?

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This is what we have.

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And she just makes due with what we have

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So definitely less is more.

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And that even goes to things like diapers.

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So if you have a child in diapers, we

bring enough diapers for maybe like

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two or three days worth in ca in case

there's a delay in case we have to

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stay over in a country that we weren't

necessarily planning on staying over with.

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We bring enough diapers and wipes for

like two or three days and then as

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soon as we get to where we're going,

we go to the store and we pick up.

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whatever diaper brand,

whatever wipes they have.

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So it just helps us minimize the

amount of stuff that we have.

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So, the last few products that I

highly, highly recommend to make

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your life easier is if you have a

baby with bottles, formula, or pumped

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breast milk, the Baby Brew Portable

Electric Bottle Warmer is incredible.

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Again, it's tiny, it's small,

it charges electrically.

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And it's a really easy way to be able

to warm up your baby bottles on the go

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without needing to add, you know, super

hot water to the canister and warming up.

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It takes like 10 minutes.

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This thing can warm up a bottle

in like four or five minutes.

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It's super small and super effective.

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So I highly recommend the baby brew.

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And then the last thing that

I'll say is the stroller.

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Stroller recommendations are, are

literally the one of the biggest.

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questions that I get asked on

the podcast or on Instagram.

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Do I bring my up a baby?

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Do I bring my big one?

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Do I bring the double?

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Do I, what about the travel stroller?

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And so for us we have never traveled

with our at home stroller, like

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our big up a baby double stroller.

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We use a GB pocket.

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I think it is again.

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I'm not sponsored by

any of these products.

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These are just things that I've genuinely

loved and used over three years.

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The GB pocket is great because it folds up

super small and you can actually fit it in

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the overhead compartment on an airplane.

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So they can't force you.

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Well, I guess they can, cause they

can do whatever they want, but

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they typically don't force us.

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to gate check our stroller and we really

try to avoid gate checking our stroller

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because the strollers are typically

the last thing to come off the plane.

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It takes forever.

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You're waiting there at, you know,

literally on the tarmac, just

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waiting for your stroller to come

off and the babies, you know,

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it's just, it's all these things.

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We just want to be able to get off

the plane, get where we're going.

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Efficiency as much as possible.

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So we use the GB Pocket because it's super

small, super compact, super lightweight.

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Now the only thing is that there's

not a lot of under storage space.

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The umbrella isn't super deep, so there's

not a lot of sunshade for your child.

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But we just make do with what we have.

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We'll put Layla in the, in the stroller.

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I'll strap Indy onto my chest

with the Ergo Ergo baby carrier.

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That's another great product is having

a baby carrier if your child is,

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likes it or small enough for that.

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Baby carriers are great to be

able to have multiple children

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at multiple touch points.

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But yeah, really trying to, again, like

minimize the amount of stuff that you're

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bringing, that you're checking on the

airplane and just the less space that you

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have to store stuff, the better because

it means you don't bring as much stuff.

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And so I think overall, I think

you can see the theme is just

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don't bring that much shit.

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Try to minimize as much as you can so that

you're have not as much physical clutter.

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And then that helps free up

space through all the mental

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clutter that's going on as well.

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Just bringing yourself more space, more

ease, more flow as much as possible.

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So this episode was a lot

longer than I intended it to be.

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This was only going to be 10 minutes,

but I guess probably we'll end up

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doing a part two, especially after we

go to Southeast Asia for five weeks.

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As I'm speaking this out, you will be

hearing this while I'm in Southeast Asia.

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So I will definitely be doing a part

two of, you know, all the things that

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I've learned through maybe longer

term trips, but this is what I got.

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I also get a lot of questions around.

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Do I bring a car seat on the plane?

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How do I check the car seat?

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What do I do?

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And that's like a whole

other conversation.

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So maybe that'll be within part two,

because we've done that as well.

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And I have thoughts about it.

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But if you have any questions, personal

specific questions about what you want

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to do with your kid, I am so open.

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Please find me on Instagram at kelly.

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toladay.

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yoga and just DM me and I will.

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Send you a voice note with an

answer with my best tips and tricks.

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And yeah, I, I'm hope you enjoy this

episode for those who have kids.

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I hope this helps you with any sort of,

you know, mindset hacking to get over

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the anxiety of traveling with your kids

I hope it brings you practical tips so

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that you're able to have confidence with

the products that you're purchasing.

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I'll link again everything in the

show notes so that it's easy access

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for you to be able to find them.

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And I'm looking forward

to the next episode.

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