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The Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception with Dr. Marguerite Rigoglioso
Episode 944th August 2024 • Home to Her • Liz Kelly
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What if virgin birth isn't simply a story, but a real and documented ancient phenomenon? This is the topic I explore in the latest episode with my guest today, Dr. Marguerite Rigoglioso. Marguerite is the founder of Seven Sisters Mystery School, a world-renowned teacher of sacred knowledge, and the foremost authority on the history of virgin birth. A trusted mentor to people on healing and spiritual paths, she draws on her decades-long research and experiences with Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene to help uncover their hidden, timeless teachings and apply them to our present-day needs. The award-winning author of several books including "The Secret Life of Mother Mary: Divine Feminine Power for Personal Healing and Planetary Awakening," and "The Mystery Tradition of Miraculous Conception: Mary and the Lineage of Virgin Births."

In this episode we discuss:

  • Marguerite's introduction to the Sacred Feminine, first through her interest in Mary Magdalene during her upbringing in the Catholic Church, and later through classes and Goddess pilgrimages which eventually led her to academia
  • Marguerite's research into the history of virgin and divine births in Ancient Greece, and how this eventually led her to studying the story and history of Mary's birth of Jesus
  • Why the practice of virgin birth existed and how it was practiced by divine priestesses
  • The work of the late Sri Kaleshwar and his teachings on the holy womb chakra
  • Why Marguerite feels this information is coming to the forefront of consciousness at this moment in time

Notes related to this episode:

  • You can learn more about Marguerite and her work at www.sevensistersmysteryschool, and follow her on social media: facebook.com/sevensistersmysteryschool and instagram.com/margueriterigoglioso
  • Register now for Marguerite's Free Masterclass: What’s a ‘Mary’ Priestess? What’s a ‘Magdalene’ Priestess? And is This a Path for YOU? https://www.sevensistersmysteryschool.com/mary-magdalene-priestess-training/#masterclass
  • And find out more about her Mary & Magdalene Priestess Training: https://www.sevensistersmysteryschool.com/mary-magdalene-priestess-training/
  • Marguerite mentioned several people's work including the channelers Sanaya Roman and Barbara Brennan, Greta Bro and the late Carol P. Christ, Anna Maria Corredini and Drunvalo Melchizedek and the book "The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life"
  • She also spoke of the books of Claire Heartsong, including "Anna, Grandmother of Jesus" and "Anna, Voice of the Magdalenes"
  • We also discussed the teachings of the late Sri Kaleshwar and the Divine Mother Center in Laytonville, California

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Liz Childs Kelly: Hey everybody,

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So let's get on with the show.

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If you have been listening for a while,

you might notice that I get really, really

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fired up when I get to have conversations

that bring together the historical and the

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spiritual aspects of the sacred feminine.

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This is kind of my jam.

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That's kind of what my book is about too.

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And so my guest today, she's been on my

radar for quite some time and I'm just

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super, super excited to have her here.

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Cause I know we're going to be able

to get into both of those things.

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So let me go ahead and

introduce her to you now.

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Dr.

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Marguerite Mary Rigoglioso is the

founder of Seven Sisters Mystery School,

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a world renowned teacher of sacred

knowledge and the foremost authority

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on the history of virgin birth.

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So I just want to say that again

because we're going to talk about

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that a lot the history Of virgin

birth not just a story y'all.

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This is so exciting.

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A trusted mentor to people on healing

and spiritual paths, She draws on her

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decades long research and experiences with

mother mary and mary magdalene to help

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uncover their hidden timeless teachings

And apply them to our present day needs.

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The award winning author of several books,

including The Secret Life of Mother Mary:

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Divine Feminine Power for Personal Healing

and Planetary Awakening, and The Mystery

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Tradition of Miraculous Conception:

Mary and the Lineage of Virgin Births.

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She lives in Western

Massachusetts, and she is joining

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me from her home there today.

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Marguerite, thank you

so much for being here.

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It's such an honor to have you here.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Oh,

thank you for having me, Liz.

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I feel really moved to be here.

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It's wonderful.

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I, I can feel your excitement

and it's happily contagious.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Oh my gosh.

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Yes, it's there.

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And I have to tell you that I, Heard

you on another podcast, Sarah Poet.

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She's been a guest on this show.

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I've been a guest on her show.

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I'll make sure to put that in show

notes if you all didn't listen

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to that because it was wonderful.

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But I heard you on her podcast, I

don't know, a couple of years ago.

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And, and I think it's because Sarah

told me about your work initially.

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And, and I was like, It

just totally blew my mind.

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So we'll get into it.

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I'm going to leave y'all on a cliffhanger

right there, but I'm just, I'm really

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excited to have this conversation.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yes.

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She's another wonderful

mystical esoteric sister.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

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So yes, she's amazing.

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Well, so I usually start with

guests just hearing some about

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their spiritual background.

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And as I told you before we

hopped on, I, I'm just curious.

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I just, I love to hear these kinds

of stories from people, but I'm

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especially curious as it relates to

the sacred feminine and whether or

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not you got anything that was useful

that you sort of carried forward and

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informed you from where you are today,

or, you know, it wasn't a journey of

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something that you had to discard.

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So I'd love to start there.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: You know,

as it happens the longer version

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of what I'll tell you today is in

the Secret Life of Mother Mary,

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the new book that just came out.

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So people can really get more of a sense

of that because I think it's instructive.

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It's just so interesting to hear

what other people are up to and

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how it compares to your own life.

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And sometimes it's inspiring.

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I mean, I would say just the spiritual

journey for me, I could pick so

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many different points to enter

with but I was brought up Catholic.

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And I always try to, you know, get

into the homilies and things like that.

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But even though it was kind of boring,

I mean, I did have, I was earnest

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about, about trying to get the spiritual

juice that there wasn't very much

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of in, in the masses where I went.

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But my ears always perked up when

Mary Magdalene would come along.

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And so fast forward, really, I mean, gosh.

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I started having an awakening to mystical

material in the form of, of what we call

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channelers, what I call oracles, like

the work of Senea Roman and Barbara.

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But the one who, who the one who

has hands of light her last name

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is going to come to me in a minute.

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I don't know why.

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Is it,

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Liz Childs Kelly: there's two.

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Okay.

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Is it, is it Hubbard?

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Is it that her or is that, am I

getting mixed up with somebody else?

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No,

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: that's,

that's Barbara Marks Hubbard.

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This one is, and it's not Barbara

Marciniak cause she came later in my life.

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Barbara Brennan, okay.

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Barbara Brennan, Hands of Light.

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I started getting into that in my 20s

and there was this organization called

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Interface in the Boston area where I

was living in the, in the, at that time.

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And I started going to all these juicy,

Evening events and workshops that they

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had, including one on by Greta bro.

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Who's this therapist who told us that

it was all about women and self esteem.

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And she said, well, in order for

you to understand how much your self

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esteem has been wounded, you have

to understand that we've all been

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cut off from the sacred feminine.

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And did you know that our ancestors

and, you know, most of the world did or

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does still venerate the sacred feminine.

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And it was like this big aha, right?

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And so from there, it just led

me onto a true investigation.

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Cause I was, I became a junkie with books,

even archeology books like Maria Gimbutas.

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And I started going to a women's

spirituality program that

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the interface foundation had.

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It ended up being like this three

year journey where I met and worked

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with some of the leaders then of the

women's spirituality movement, read,

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read, read, had experiences, went on

goddess pilgrimages to Crete and Sicily

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and Greece and that sort of thing.

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And then eventually landed in grad

school because I said, I am so eager

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about uncovering the historicity of all

this that I, I need to become a scholar.

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And so I ended up at the California

Institute of Integral Studies.

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And then that was really

the beginning of the weave.

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Much more of, of my professional

self, my writing self and my, my

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ability to be a, a spiritual teacher.

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And then, you know, it

just went on from there.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

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And I love it.

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And I feel like you kind of answered

what's often my second question, which

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is, I'll give you a chance if you want

to add to it, but you know, how did the

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sacred feminine come into your life?

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And it sounds like it's through this,

this interface work that you did.

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Yes.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yes.

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Yes.

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And then on the heels of that,

there was a goddess pilgrimage to

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Crete with the late Carol Christ.

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So I went on her trip, and it

was going to these ancient portal

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sites, literally doing ritual.

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I mean, this opened me

up in a whole new way.

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I did another one in Sicily.

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And so I just took off from there.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Yeah.

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I mean,

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: I

was all about the goddess

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Liz Childs Kelly: Well, one thing that I love about your journey, and maybe

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it's because I relate to it too, is

that it's, it sounds like that it was a

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at least somewhat sort of like more of

a, a spiritual kind of awakening that

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you then went and reinforced or dug

into from the historical perspective.

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Yeah.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: That's always

been my way and my passion because

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I've been bookish and schoolish and

you know, all that kind of stuff.

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I, I love to dig into what history says

and because you get a lot of nuggets.

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That then can open your own what I

call oracle knowing so that's what

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would happen a lot is it would be

like a figure eight moving between

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the intellectual and the intuitive.

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One would always feed the other they

would, they would play within and

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that's how I did my entire grad school.

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It's how I did my dissertation on

divine birth in ancient Greece, you

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know, and then that led to that.

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That was where I really went

into the study of Mother Mary

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as a divine birth priestess.

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And that led to the two books

that you've mentioned that the

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secret life of Mother Mary.

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And the mystery, the previous

one, the mystery tradition

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of miraculous conception.

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So yeah, the secret life of mother

Mary just came out July,:

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So here we are.

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Very exciting.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

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And it's a wonderful book.

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And I, okay.

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So I just, I'm so excited to talk to

you about this is, this is one of those

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things that I think is there've been so

many gifts on this path of the sacred

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feminine since it started for me.

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But one of them is this realizing that the

things that we have treated as fiction,

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or like, oh, it's just like a story, to

actually realize, like, oh, wait a minute,

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what if that's just like a breadcrumb?

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It's kind of the same idea of how fairy

tales are actually kind of encoded, like,

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with spells and things like that, and

things that we've kind of, Culturally

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forgotten the significance of and so I

so perked up when I I mean just the idea

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of virgin birth is It's it's so it can be

so fantastical and so wild And so I just

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I want to just dive into this with you

like tell me how you got on this path.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yeah, so my first

two books emerged out of my dissertation,

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really my first three, including the

one about Mother Mary, the mystery

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tradition of miraculous conception.

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Well, that was through two things.

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One is I had started to read Drunvalo

Melchizedek's book, The Ancient

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Secret of the Flower of Life.

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I was in graduate school at

CIIS at the master's level and I

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was doing my own research about

Demeter and Persephone in Sicily.

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That was my master's thesis.

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And I can't quite remember

the order of things.

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I think I might've read in Drunvalo's

book that his guide Thoth, the Egyptian

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god Thoth, was his direct channel,

channeler information guy, said that

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virgin birth was real that Mother Mary

engaged it, that there were kinds of

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conception capacities and so forth.

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You know, tuck that away.

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And then when I was researching this

book on, or my, my master's thesis on

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Demeter and Persephone, as they were

in Sicily, my origin place, three

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quarters of my ancestors are from there.

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The, the author Anna Maria

Corradini was writing.

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With such rapture and in a mystical

way about Demeter and Persephone

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as being a story of Parthenogenetic

birth, that Persephone actually

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came out of Demeter in this direct

line without any male interference.

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And I just received right then,

it was a kind of like separate and

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apart from anything I'd heard from

Drunvalo, I directly received,

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Oh my gosh, divine birth is real.

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And women were doing it.

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So she was talking about goddesses.

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I really understood that it was

on every level of the hologram,

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and it was including women.

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And so this was a flash of insight that

felt so palpable and strong within me

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that it was like always with me and my

dissertation for my my doctorate was going

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to be a study of priestesses of ancient

Greece, cataloging every single thing that

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had been said about them in the texts.

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Well, as I was doing that

research, what did I find?

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All of these stories about divine

birth, divine conception, virginal

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conception, and sometimes it was

with like male gods and female women.

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And so I started collecting

all these stories.

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pieces and chunks of information

and realized that I could categorize

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them into types of divine birth.

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And I thought, this is a

real priestess practice.

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This is not just a made up thing.

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And Mary was not the only person.

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And of course, I All the time with

that I was thinking about Mother Mary

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and at some point I found her gospel,

the infancy gospel of James about her

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divine birth from her mother and her

divine birth of Jesus, which is, you

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know, what the mystery tradition of

miraculous conception book is all about.

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And I kind of had to put that on hold

while I just focused my dissertation on

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ancient Greece, but I would have cartloads

of books coming back and forth from my,

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the CIIS library for interlibrary loan.

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It literally was hilarious.

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And by night I would be scanning, reading,

posting, noting, and by day I'd be like

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writing and that process took nine months.

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And the cult of divine birth

in ancient Greece was born.

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Well, my dissertation was born,

but out of that were two books.

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The cult of divine birth in

ancient Greece and then virgin

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mother goddesses of antiquity.

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Those are the two really

strong academic backgrounders.

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of the evidence for divine birth

in the ancient Mediterranean

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world, especially Greece.

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And so with all of that information,

I had the understandings, the

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signs, the codings, the cataloging

of types of divine birth.

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I knew the symbols.

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I knew what things meant.

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So then when I went into Mother

Mary's gospel, which originally was

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called Birth of Mary, by the way I

was able to decode and read it easily.

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I, and I understood what was going on,

how these women were part of a lineage,

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what they were actually doing, as many

details as I could glean about the actual

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process of divine birth and so forth.

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So all of this, you know, has

been feeding into each other.

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And, and at the same time, you

know, I'm, I'm a trained Oracle.

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I've, I trained my, I trained in

psychic school for clairvoyance,

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but then I really trained myself in

Oracle, knowing clear cognizance,

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and I have used sacred medicines

to further open my consciousness.

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And so all of this has been,

you know, working together.

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I'm like an academic oracle or an

oracular scholar, whatever you want

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to call it, you know and, and even

that has been migrating lately as I've

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been presenting this book, the secret

life of mother Mary to the world.

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And I've been really understanding

through these conversations I've been

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having with people that I'm up leveling

to a whole new level of being able

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to embody this material and these

teachings, particularly from the Mary's.

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So I'll just pause there.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Oh my gosh.

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So much.

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So fascinating.

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Okay.

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I have so many questions.

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This happens sometimes.

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So they're like all kind of

bouncing in my head and we'll

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see if I can remember them all.

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But so going back to your dissertation.

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What, tell me what kind of or just

an example of like, what were,

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what are some of the sources where

you were finding these references?

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Because they're not known

in, in our culture, right?

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And I don't, I wouldn't even imagine that

you're coming across it if you're studying

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ancient Greece in a master's program,

you'd have to be looking for it, right?

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So I'm super curious, like

where you, where you were,

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Marguerite Rigoglioso:

where you caught the

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Liz Childs Kelly: trail.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: I had that theory

in my mind that women were conducting

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divine birth as part of a holy practice.

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And then I just, as I would start with

the secondary scholarship, right, Jane

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Ellen Harrison Arthur Cook you know,

there are a whole bunch of other other

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scholars of the ancient world from the

early:

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like Connolly is one of them.

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There's a whole bunch.

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I haven't looked at my list lately.

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You know, all these, all these

people in, in contemporary and

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shards, like there was this whole big

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series called Zeus by Arthur Cook.

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That was like a Bible to me.

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at the original sources.

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And there's this also this wonderful thing

called theoi com, T H E O I dot com, and

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that would have the cataloging and the

descriptions of all of the characters

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in the ancient sources with all of their

original, you know, references to Pindar

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and you know, wherever it was, Plato

and, and all of these sources, right?

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Herodotus, Herodotus, So I was able

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to track very quickly, and because

we're in the online world now, you can

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find things accessible pretty, pretty

easily, the original source material.

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of Greek to be able to get through

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some of it, to be able to look at

some terms and say, well, that's not

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exactly how it's translated, or it

could be translated in another way.

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with as much original material as I

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could, and I was just able to piece

it all together from the women's

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hermeneutical perspective, if you

want to use an academic term, meaning,

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you know, the looking for the

hidden materials, what, what's been

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denigrated, dismissed, disappeared, and

so forth from a feminine perspective.

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Yes.

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And I guess with my head's going

many different places and you

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mentioned her in your book too.

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I'm pretty sure you mentioned the

book Anna grandmother of Jesus.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yes.

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So there's an example.

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of someone on the other

end of the spectrum.

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Yes.

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A perfectly open oracle, right?

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A channeler who was bringing

forth very amazing information.

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finished my dissertation on divine

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birth and already had in mind all

the material about mother Mary and

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what I was going to say about her.

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And I was already starting to teach about

her and that material at the university

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level hadn't yet written the books though.

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I Was synchronistically

led to Claire's books.

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I thought I was ordering another

book, and I ended up ordering

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And this came, and I poked into it,

and I was like, oh my gosh, she is

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saying the same thing that I am.

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And she was, she was channeling it,

or putting it together, kind of right

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around the same time that I was putting

the material together as a scholar.

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Claire, and meeting with her,

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because we had so much in common.

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I mean, I was verifying

what she was saying.

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She was verifying what I was saying.

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I haven't really fully read her books

because I, I want to keep my own

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Oracle channel, sort of clear and not

being influenced by her material, but

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I have highly high respect for her.

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And after she, you know, delivered

those two babies to the world, she

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was like, well, I'm taking a backseat.

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I tried to arrange for her to teach

with me or, or something like that.

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out of that loop now.

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she contracted for in this lifetime.

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that's That's enough for her.

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Liz Childs Kelly: And I'll put a link

to that book in the show notes too.

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I believe her last name is it

heart song, Claire heart song.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yeah.

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And it's Anna grandmother of Jesus.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Magdalene's.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: So, so we're

all related, you know, and she, she

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did give a very nice endorsement

quote for the mystery tradition of

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miraculous conception, which came

out in:

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So here we are.

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Liz Childs Kelly: And here we are.

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And so tell me, and

maybe it seems obvious.

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I mean, if we know the story of Mary and

Jesus, like why virgin birth was such

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a thing, but what, what, what was the

point of it from your understanding?

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Well, this

is what the Greek tradition material

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research was so helpful for.

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It explained it.

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It was, I realized through going through

all of these not just mythical stories,

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not just legendary stories, but some

historical stories as well of women

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who had given birth divinely that the

purpose was to bring forth a high holy

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being, an avatar, somebody above the

normal vibration who could help humanity.

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That's what virgin birth was at its best.

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Of course, it became hijacked by

negative influencers and forces.

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to co opt it to be used to bring in

the patriarchal heroes you know, those

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who would decimate the matriarchy,

those who would decimate the divine

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birth priestess hoods, and so forth.

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But originally it was to bring forth

high queens and high kings who would

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then bless the land by bringing forth

their children, And letting their

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DNA, you know, go into the tribe to,

to raise the vibration of humanity.

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And also these high beings bring in

abilities and knowledge that, that

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most people don't have ready access to.

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So then it was, it was perfectly

understandable why Mother Mary would

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be involved in this, why her mother

Anne would have given birth to her

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completely parthenogenetically, meaning

in virgin fashion, no men involved.

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And who Jesus was who what he was all

about and that he was part of a worldwide

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stream of people all over like on every

continent who have done this work,

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you know, because I went deeply into

into I think heartland is his name.

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Stories of virgin birth all

around the world, including

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Native American traditions.

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Okay, the Haudenosaunee, the Chalagi,

the Cherokee, or right, or the Iroquois,

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they have the same story in a way of

a virgin, a virgin born peacemaker.

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Okay, so it's all over the place.

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And when you realize Mother Mary did

not act alone in the best sense of the

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world, the whole thing becomes very

interesting because then we, we wonder,

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well, what are women's capacities?

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And that is, that is a line I crossed

as well when I became instructed in

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the Holy Womb Chakra system that the

late Hindu Saint Sri Kaleshwar brought

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up and he said how these are some of

the, these are some of the processes,

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mantras, and yantras that Mother Mary

and Mary Magdalene used to do their work

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and, and bring forth divine children.

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So it's, the net continues to connect.

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And grow and, and the holy womb

chakra teachings are teachings

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available to all people.

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So it's like, Oh my gosh, if mother

Mary used these, you know, what

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benefit can they confer upon me?

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And I talk in the book, the

secret life of mother Mary, what

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benefit they did confer upon me.

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And I've seen them conferring

benefits and, and miracle

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experiences to other people as well.

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We are on a doorway to, you know, I mean,

a pathway to open the door to the sacred

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womb again in ways that have not been

opened for quite some time and that we

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deeply need on the planet right now.

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And I, once again, I

have like three kind of

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follow up threads, but I want to go

back to a question, which is so when

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I think about the story the story that

we've been given about the birth of

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Jesus and, and the, the Annunciation and

the you know, the Immaculate Conception

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and how that's been interpreted in a

way of like, Well, you know, I guess

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I'm just, I'm thinking of original

sin and how, you know, like people

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being polluted by woman or whatever.

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But what, I guess what I'm, what I'm

wondering about is what is it about

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the involvement of, or maybe even the

lack of involvement of the masculine

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that takes this to a more, Sacred, holy

place, like, I don't feel like in any

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of your writing you're implying that

there's a pollution that's happening

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from the masculine necessarily, but like,

what is it about the parthenogenesis

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that makes this different somehow?

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Right.

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And I should mention that I've, I

discovered several methods of what

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we would call divine conception.

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One method was virgin conception,

parthenogenesis, the woman alone.

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Another one is the woman working

with a disembodied person.

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Astral being a God, you know, so

called another is a woman working

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with the God, but he's coming

now through a male actor or King.

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That was ancient, ancient Egypt.

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And then another one was pure, like

King, Queen coming together and

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sort of incorporating the high

sacred feminine, the high sacred

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masculine in a tantric right.

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All of these done with specific

rituals, intentions, processes, mantras.

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in order to bring forth

a very high holy being.

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Now in terms of the parthenogenetic

part of that, the virginal part,

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those women were high adepts who

basically were able to develop inner

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androgyny, inner hermaphroditism.

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They're masculine and feminine became so

strong that they were able to conceive.

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And that's what I talk about in

in these two most recent books.

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So that is a process, a very

deep yoga that one could undergo.

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But essentially, what I've what

I've realized, even just this past

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year, teaching other material from

the Gnostic sources is that we

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originally were hermaphrodites, humans,

humans, humans, were hermaphrodites.

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Our original form was

both male and female.

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And so when we were split, we were

split by these same negative archonic

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forces that the holy family incarnated

back into:

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so in various forms and families to

address, to help us get out of this.

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I mean, it boggles the mind

what you start learning about.

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of our ancient human history,

just in the Gnostic sources, let

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alone what a lot of channelers and

whistleblowers and disclosers are doing.

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So this story becomes huge

when you understand it.

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So the fact of virgins becoming

sovereign, hermaphroditic, in and of

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themselves, able then to unite with

the, the divine of, of all creation,

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you know, Mother Divine, And give birth

was like a high quantum level technology

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that that really is a technology

that comes from our starry ancestors.

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The Pleiades is very

much involved in this.

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You know, that's that's a whole

related story with Mother Mary

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and so forth, but also Greece.

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And so one of the reasons is,

you know, the main reason is that

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the woman is becoming whole in

of herself, in and of herself.

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She doesn't need a male partner.

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And therefore she doesn't have to worry

about the level of vibration of that man.

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Any, any DNA that he lineages that

he might be carrying in that could

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be good or could not be good.

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Any karma that he might be

bringing into her vagina, right?

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Those are the virgins.

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That's the mother Mary.

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But on the other side is

the tantric unification.

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All right.

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Mary Magdalene and Jesus as

partners and, and conceiving

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that way in a very high level.

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And let me just say, this is

not just for high holy people.

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The holy womb chakra teachings that

Sri Kaleshwar brought forth that

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I was certified to teach in and do

have a class in available for people.

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It brings in how to, how

to conceive a divine child.

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By just an ordinary couple who

is spiritually minded and wants

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to do a specific mantra while

they are having sexual relations.

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And then once the child is conceived,

because it's a clearing and cleansing

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mantra that draws in divine powers

and a divine soul to the woman's womb.

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And then the woman after she's

conceived becomes pregnant.

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She does another mantra as much as

much as possible in order to keep

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her place, her womb, her palace

clear and this child protected.

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And so there are numerous stories

from, you know, Sri Kaleshwar's

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tradition of children born in this

way that are a cut above because

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this is about conscious conception.

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So it's not just about these women

who are impossibly high level

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avatars that will never reach that.

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It's about all of us meeting ourselves

where we are and trying to raise ourself

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up through these various understandings

and practices that are available today.

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And I talk a lot about that in the

secret life of mother Mary book.

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Liz Childs Kelly: So fascinating.

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And you mentioned, you know, just

these Holy womb chakra teachings.

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Well, and you know what, maybe let's

back up and just speak a little

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bit about who Sri Kailashwar was

because I wasn't familiar with him

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until I read about him in your book.

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And he's fairly recent, right?

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He passed in the last 10 years or so.

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Did he not?

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He lived until he was 36 years

old and he had his Maha Samadhi,

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as they call it, left the earth

back in:

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So do the math.

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He was born in whenever he was born.

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I don't know, the 70s

or something like that.

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So he was a young man who came in to

India and they still have an ashram to

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him in Penaconda where his Maha Samadhi

is laid, you know, where his, his body is.

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And then there's another ashram

in Laytonville, California,

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the American branch of it.

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He came in and largely.

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In India and then Europe, like Germany,

especially, but then came to the US.

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He was teaching materials from the

ancient palm leaf manuscripts that he

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had collected through all the it's like

this Indiana Jones story of how he had

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received or received synchronistically

collected all these manuscripts that

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had written on them, the methods, the

mantras, the drawings, the yantras, right?

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For not only the Holy Womb teachings, but

other teachings, like how to work with the

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five elements in order to gain mastery.

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And, and of the Siddic practice,

the Siddhis, being able to work

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in miraculous ways and so forth.

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So there were many teachings that,

that are codified and printed out or

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available in, in audio or video, not only

by him, but also by then his students.

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Through the Divine Mother Center

in Laytonville, California, and

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then through the shrikaleshwar.

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org, which publishes his books

and probably has other manuscripts

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and monographs of teachings

that he did and so forth.

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And then the Divine Mother Center, you

know, has these classes that are available

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and then You know, I being certified, they

let you, if you get certified, they let

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you teach the Holy One Chakra material.

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So this has been going through the world.

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There are still people who

work through this lineage.

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It's, it originally goes back to the

Sai, the Shirdi Sai Baba lineage.

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That was Sri Kaleshwar's teacher.

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So it goes back to India and, and

there are people, you know, active.

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Right now, my friend Angela de la Agua is

coming back from India, maybe tomorrow.

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Having brought a group to

that ashram over there.

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So all of these things

are very much connected.

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And this man made a splash, you

know, a small splash that's having

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a big wave in this lifetime.

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And because now I've put a lot

of that stuff in the secret life

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of Mother Mary, his material.

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In a very accessible, readable,

condensed way that connects with

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Mother Mary and that connects with

all of us, makes it accessible.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

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And I was so fascinated by his

teachings and sharing that well,

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yeah, that Jesus ended up in

India and Mary, Mary did as well.

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I was just like, Oh, it's

all, it's also fascinating.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There are, there are numerous

people who've said over the years,

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and there apparently is evidence.

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That Jesus was in India and some

say after his resurrection that his

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Kaleshwar basically implies that Jesus

resurrection, which happened by the

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way, through Mother Mary doing these

yogic practices with his broken body

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resurrected him body and soul,

and then zoop, he went off

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to India with Mary Magdalene.

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That's one timeline, and there's, there's

evidence that Jesus was there, and

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whether it was again before or after the

resurrection, that, that is a whole study

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that would be completely fascinating,

but people at the Divine Mother Center

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might know about it, and so it, it,

it turns things on its head for us.

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It opens new doors, new possibilities,

it gets us out of the dogmatic

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storyline and picture the hijacking

of these beings and their images

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that has kept us down for so long.

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That's my point in the Secret Life

of Mother Mary is to uncloak her.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Almost,

I almost used the title, The

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Uncloaking of Mother Mary, right?

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But I decided to go with The Secret Life

of Mother Mary because there was something

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a little more compelling about that.

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But I'm helping to uncloak her.

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And Sri Kaleshwar was helping to

uncloak her and we're working in, you

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know, a chain link fashion together.

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There are other great teachers

right now William Henry, he's

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really uncloaking the Marys.

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It's, it's astounding.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Amazing.

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I wonder if you could say a little

bit more about the holy womb chakra,

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because this is different, right?

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Than the traditional chakras

that we, we know you're not

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talking about the sacral chakra.

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You're talking about

something different, correct?

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And I'd love to hear you just

explain that a little bit more.

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yeah.

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So Shri Kaleshwar never really.

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said exactly where it's

located in the body.

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But the implication was it's

more like a kind of an overlay

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of the pelvic region for a woman.

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And there is an important point

that's in the bodies of everyone.

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And this is the democratic nature of it.

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So that, you know, It opens up these

practices and these powers to all people.

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It's called the Nada Bindu point.

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And it's an inch and a half or so below

the navel, and it's a floating energetic

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point that's kind of like the entry

point to the powers of the Holy Womb.

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So it's, it's, it's.

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In, in I think he says that Vishnu has

it attached to his navel, but most other

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people have it sort of floating around.

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But it's, it's your inner portal to

the holy womb of all creation, you

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know, mother divine through your

lineage, through your mothers, mothers,

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mothers, mothers, mothers, right?

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And so that women have the actual

structure of the womb, the physical

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womb, and men have the fragrance of

the womb through the holy womb not a

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bindu point portal, and they can access

the holy womb energy more strongly

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through the love of a woman, he says.

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You know, or the, the thinking on or

connecting with your mother, right?

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So the holy womb chakra is another

whole chakra, another whole

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pelvic chakra that really needs

to be recognized and cultivated.

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First of all, purified.

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And then uplifted through all of these

mantra recitations and things like

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that, because this will give you power.

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This will give you power for

manifesting in the world.

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It gives you power for, you know,

bringing in a higher consciousness child

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for doing healing for other people.

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There's, there's a whole series of

things you can do to become a healer.

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in this tradition.

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And my teacher, Cindy Lindsay, is

that type of healer and mentors

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others in that cultivation as well.

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And, you know, I talk about in the

secret life of Mother Mary, some of the

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miracle ish things that happened for me.

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Liz Childs Kelly: I

wanted to ask about this.

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Yes.

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With

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: my own use of the

Holy Womb Chakra practices, the timing

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of the three months, the hundred and one

days that I, when I started working with

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this, this process in earnest, it's 101

day practice with, with your doing your

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mantras, a certain number of mantras, a

certain number of times a day, 108 times.

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And the timing was that well, I'll

leave it to readers, but I had a health.

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reversal in a positive direction.

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I manifested something very major

in my life and something I didn't

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write about because the book was

already going to press by that time.

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But I believe that all of this, you

know, helped me manifest a partner,

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which had been years of like, You

know, Ajita essentially and so,

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you know, and I've, I've seen other

things happen in other people's lives

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and clients that I've worked with.

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I mean, things that start going on once

they do or complete the mantras or right

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away, you know, so it's there are felt

effects in the three dimensional world

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in short by doing these kinds of things.

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that Sri Kaleshwar has brought

onto the planet and that he says

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Mother Mary did, Mary Magdalene did,

Jesus did, and that they actually

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contributed to palm leaf manuscripts.

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They wrote things down, you know, I mean

that would be a whole exploration, right?

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I mean, in another lifetime, but you

know, you could go to people in the

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Divine Mother Center in Laytonville

Monica of Peniconda there, and Nityananda.

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They are closely associated

with all this material.

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They may have done some of

this research, you know, so.

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Liz Childs Kelly: Fascinating.

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So I've got a question for you

that I think I'm just curious about

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what has it been like for you to be

holding what I think, well, we start

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to manifest the people around us

who are like ready for this, right?

685

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Like they show up in our world

and like, you know, but, but

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there's still that reality, right?

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Of you are researching

something that feels very non

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traditionally academic to me.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, and I'm wondering like sort

of that holding those energies

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because what you're talking about is.

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It's, it's It's numinous and

it's esoteric and it is, and yet

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you are also approaching it from

this academic kind of place.

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And I think of academia as being

solidly sort of patriarchal

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in organization, right?

696

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It was not created with women

the participation of women.

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So I'm just curious, like what that's,

what has that been like for you?

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Well, I had

to keep accessing academia from

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the outer, more and more outer

rungs until I wasn't there anymore.

700

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And I created my own academia.

701

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I created it.

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Seven Sisters Mystery School.

703

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I stepped out of trying to teach at

university level, which I had done,

704

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trying to get a job at university

level, which just wasn't happening.

705

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And I just, you know, I, I met a coach.

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She helped me weave everything together.

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I started my own school and I was able to

fully then do my research on my own terms.

708

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Luckily, for my dissertation

at CIIS, I had Jorge Ferrer,

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who was my dissertation chair.

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I had Lucia Chiavola Birnbaum,

I think was on my dissertation

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committee, and the late Lucia.

712

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And then Marvin Meyer was my outside

reader, who was very well known in

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magical traditions of, you know,

ancient Greece and Egypt and so forth.

714

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And when I asked him one time,

I was like, why, why did you

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agree to be on my dissertation

committee as the outside reader?

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He's like, I don't know.

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And he has crossed on too now, but he

just, I think he just saw something

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in me and what I was doing, saw that

the research was good and sound.

719

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And and wanted to help me so he

anchored it as that validation from

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the classical Greek world in academia.

721

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Thank goddess.

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You know that I just had and I

was just very careful about who

723

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I had on this committee because I

had could have done other people.

724

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And I was like, Oh, my God, that would

be I received a medicine ceremony.

725

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Do not have that guy.

726

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He will take you down and he will

not have any problem doing it.

727

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So that was like, Okay, I'm

not going to be with him.

728

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And so, you know, I was able to get it

together enough to get the PhD letters

729

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and a very, very solid dissertation

that I'm super proud of that went into

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books that Paul Grave Macmillan was

the publisher, now Springer Nature that

731

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took it on, you know, and then as I was

732

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Accessible, you know, because my aunt

would say, why don't you write an, you

733

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know, a book that everyone can read?

734

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And that was the mystery tradition

of miraculous conception.

735

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It's taking unbelievable esoteric

material and just making it readable.

736

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Like, I was so happy when people

have been able to have been

737

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saying to me, Oh, these two books.

738

:

Oh, my God.

739

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I read it in two days.

740

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You know, I'm like, wow.

741

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I mean, that is deep material,

but there it's going down with

742

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a spoonful of honey, right?

743

:

Totally.

744

:

That was my, that was my goal.

745

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That was my aim.

746

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It has to be, it has to be accessible.

747

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Same with the secret life of mother

Mary, which is why I really brought

748

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my personal story into this and really

came out more as with my Oracle side.

749

:

Right.

750

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None of the other books really talk so

much about my Oracle side, certainly

751

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not the two very academic books.

752

:

So I've just been working

my own way, doing it my way.

753

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And I know what solid scholarship is.

754

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I know where it gets constipated

and I don't want to deal with that.

755

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And I know where it's grounded and

I know how you can weave in the

756

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more intuitional part of it and the

personal and that's what I'm doing.

757

:

And I, and I can tell you Liz you know,

lately in some of these interviews,

758

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I am astounded at the level of the

conversation that I'm having with

759

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people because I'm like, oh my gosh,

I'm just an open channel right now.

760

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I mean, I, this was happening at

the previous cycle of interviews for

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the Mystery Tradition of Miraculous

Conception, but I just got the message

762

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over these last two weeks since the

book has come out that I'm moving up to

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a whole new level with this material.

764

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That all of the agony I've gone through

personally, the personal stuff I've had

765

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to heal is starting to come to fruition so

that I can hold this stuff at a, at a, a

766

:

deeper level and talk about it from there.

767

:

And that's the magic and mystery of what

seems to be happening with this new book.

768

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I literally.

769

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I have had one interviewer say to

me, I have slept with this under

770

:

my pillow because I feel like

there's transmissions coming.

771

:

I had another friend, friend

who said she had a hysterectomy.

772

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She was having pelvic problems.

773

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Unbelievably, one night she

woke up, she was so upset.

774

:

She just got in my book and she

just had the intuition because she's

775

:

kind of a medical ish to intuitional

person to put the book on her wound.

776

:

And I just am like, Oh my gosh,

you know, what is happening here?

777

:

Like, it just feels

like doors are opening.

778

:

So it's, there's the content of the book.

779

:

And then there's the meta of what's going

on around the book that is so amazing.

780

:

And I just had a client today who

just told me about a dream she had,

781

:

where she had been given a message

about the importance of this book.

782

:

And I'm like, Oh my gosh,

783

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Liz Childs Kelly: amazing.

784

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: Right.

785

:

And, and I'm like, Okay.

786

:

You know, cause I'm, I'm coming from this.

787

:

You know, more like it's from the

academic e moving into this whole

788

:

thing, but I'm just feeling like a lot

of doors are suddenly starting to open

789

:

for people around this material and

it's, it's taking my breath away a bit.

790

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yeah, it's like, I

mean, what came up for me as you were

791

:

saying that is even thinking about how.

792

:

You are perhaps not as a, like as a

physical child, like a human child,

793

:

but you are playing this role that

you're talking about in like birthing

794

:

this material, which has, has a purpose

and a ripple and all of that so much

795

:

larger than you, it's really powerful.

796

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: You know, because

I didn't have children in this life.

797

:

I never became pregnant and I

just didn't feel that was my path.

798

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yeah.

799

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: And.

800

:

I just had a passion.

801

:

I call it a transmission.

802

:

Just yesterday in Kakao ceremony,

I'm like, Oh, that's so cool.

803

:

Thank you.

804

:

Transmission.

805

:

Transmission.

806

:

I've had what I'm delivering

is a transmission.

807

:

And so that that's my baby, you

know, these are, these are my babies.

808

:

And yeah, so it's pretty astounding.

809

:

Yeah,

810

:

Liz Childs Kelly: well, and I know

we're almost out of time, but I wanted

811

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to ask you, cause I feel like you're

kind of alluding to this and let's just

812

:

give this a little bit more space and

tap into that oracular part of you too,

813

:

which is what's your sense of why now?

814

:

Right.

815

:

There's always a time in which

we're ready for information and

816

:

we seem to be ready for this.

817

:

Why now?

818

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yeah.

819

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Cosmic global timing.

820

:

I think we've all seen a lot of us

who've been around for a few decades

821

:

have seen the Mary Magdalene movement.

822

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

823

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: That

started 40 years ago with various

824

:

things that started coming out and

then it's like a tidal wave now.

825

:

People can't get enough

Mary Magdalene, right?

826

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

827

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: But mother

Mary has taken really 40 years.

828

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To start being unveiled and unclothed

like that, even though there have

829

:

been some wonderful scholars like

Allie Catouse, who along the way you

830

:

know, and Charlene Spretnak and so

forth, who've been looking at Mother

831

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Mary from different perspectives.

832

:

But again, those books have been

largely sequestered in academia.

833

:

And so I'm, I've been

teasing these threads.

834

:

And, and bringing it into

accessibility, combining it, you

835

:

know, with all of these other aspects.

836

:

And I think that it's, when I

listen to other oracles and my own

837

:

inner oracle, there's something

momentous about this time on earth.

838

:

You know, Barbara Marciniak, who, who is

a Pleiadian channeler, used to call like

839

:

this 25 year window from, I forget which

it was, but it was like kind of like right

840

:

around now as the nanosecond, but that

it's an important point, a pivot point in

841

:

like the destiny of our universe because

we're all holographically connected.

842

:

It's spooky action at a distance.

843

:

It's, it's you know, the holographic

connection, the nested realities.

844

:

So, and we're not alone on planet Earth.

845

:

There are interdimensional beings

of every stripe and color and

846

:

they've been working with us.

847

:

They've been working against us.

848

:

We are part that, you know,

we're even understanding our DNA.

849

:

Oh my gosh, we're not even what is

a human, you know, where am I from?

850

:

I'm from the stars.

851

:

Okay.

852

:

We're connecting with our star lineages.

853

:

Our star understandings.

854

:

The, the calcification is coming

off our third eyes after a long

855

:

descent down in the Kali Yuga.

856

:

We're starting to reawaken

and people are remembering.

857

:

They're remembering who we are, who we

were, where we're going, what we need to

858

:

do, and Mother Mary and the, the Mary's.

859

:

And the Sophia Christos mission as I call

it is a big part of this that has been

860

:

around for quite some time in various

forms and guises the most recent one

861

:

of 2000 years ago, but they're still

active on the on the inner planes.

862

:

And, and so they're here for us.

863

:

They're here for us as personal healers.

864

:

They're here for us as spiritual mentors,

activators, awakeners, empowerers.

865

:

This is what mother Mary did in her life.

866

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And that's what I talk about in quite a

bit of detail in the secret life of mother

867

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Mary, about how she was a mentor for all

of those early apostles and especially

868

:

the women and how this continues today.

869

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She was a mentor to mother Mary Magdalene,

all these hidden things, you know, so.

870

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Like, just even hearing these concepts,

like, oh my God, Mother Mary was

871

:

the mother in law of Mary Magdalene.

872

:

Boop!

873

:

You know, your mind starts going, what?

874

:

You have an awakening just with these

concepts, let alone the details,

875

:

let alone then how you access these

beings to find your own inner Mary,

876

:

to find your own inner Magdalene,

to find your own inner Jesus.

877

:

That's what they're doing.

878

:

They're holding up the mirror.

879

:

They're like, we are you?

880

:

You know, this is the latest

channeling I've received.

881

:

We are you, we are simply here to show

you this is you and how to access it.

882

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yeah, absolutely.

883

:

I'm wanting to, this is a, for,

well, listeners won't be able to see

884

:

it, but I'm, I'm going I wear Mary.

885

:

She is she's, yeah, she's always with me.

886

:

And it's interesting because I have

a little eight pointed star for the

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goddess Inanna that I wear as well.

888

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And I recently just put them

on the same chain because I

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think they belong together.

890

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There's there's that aspect of Mary to

the, to me is holding Just something

891

:

so much larger for me, she's, she's,

I've always known her to be so

892

:

much bigger than what the Christian

church was telling me that she was.

893

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: Right.

894

:

She's the eighth Pleiades sister.

895

:

She's the eighth star.

896

:

And okay, that's what

I channeled recently.

897

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That was like, holy crap.

898

:

You know, as I've started to become

aware of the seven sisters of

899

:

the Pleiades as the seven virgin

star seed mothers of the world.

900

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yes,

901

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: and Mary,

William Henry has really helped me

902

:

to connect how Mother Mary is part of

that whole stream and then I received.

903

:

Yes, Mother Mary is the eighth.

904

:

Pleiades, the eighth Pleiadian,

she brought forth, you know,

905

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the Jesus Christ avatar.

906

:

They brought forth these other beings

onto the planet and seeding humanity

907

:

with their higher vibrational DNA, right?

908

:

So these are deep stories that are

only now we're at a critical mass of

909

:

being able to even understand them,

comprehend them and go forward with them

910

:

where 10, 20 years ago, It would have

been too much, but people are ready.

911

:

Now our consciousness is opening

many, many more people on the

912

:

planet are suddenly having

these conscious awakenings.

913

:

And that's why the now.

914

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yeah.

915

:

Amazing.

916

:

I feel like our time

has flown by Marguerite.

917

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I want to hold up your book again.

918

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For those of who are actually watching

the secret life of mother Mary,

919

:

divine feminine power for personal

healing and planetary awakening.

920

:

Go read this book, y'all.

921

:

It's amazing.

922

:

And now I want to read all your

books, even the academic ones.

923

:

I love getting down into the academia.

924

:

So so exciting.

925

:

Tell us.

926

:

Where people can find more information.

927

:

And I know you've got

some things coming up.

928

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Marguerite Rigoglioso: Yes.

929

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So obviously the easiest thing is to

go to seven sisters, mystery school.

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com.

931

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The seven is written out

S E V E N sisters, plural.

932

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And all the information will

be right there, but just to.

933

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You know, and you can be kept abreast.

934

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You can get on our email list.

935

:

I send out a sacred Sunday e news

with all sorts of information and

936

:

the latest of what we're doing.

937

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But as of this recording I believe this

will come out in time just prior to a

938

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free masterclass that I'm doing, which

is called what is a Mary priestess?

939

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What is a Magdalene priestess?

940

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And is this a path for you?

941

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So it's going to be 45

minutes on August 6th.

942

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You can sign up at seven sisters mystery

school dot com or I think you might

943

:

provide a link at the show notes and

anchor link and that is kind of a little

944

:

introduction to the Mary and Magdalene

priestess training that I'm doing that

945

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starts September 10th and runs six months

where you're going to have really a lived

946

:

embodied experience of of all sorts of

initiations that are tied to what I'm

947

:

writing to and writing about in the book.

948

:

And then new Oracle material that

I'm going to be bringing forth.

949

:

I mean, we could have a whole

conversation on this, but there will

950

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be explanation of this in that free

masterclass so that you know what it is.

951

:

The, the registration

continues through August 28th.

952

:

You must register by August 28th to be

part of that training and it's going to

953

:

be very exciting and very manageable.

954

:

It's not like huge, humongous

amounts of homework or it's

955

:

going to stress you out, right?

956

:

It's just going to be a fascinating

experience into, into a temple that

957

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That we're just kind of co creating

together and that that draws in the

958

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powers of the Mary's into our own lives.

959

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Liz Childs Kelly: Love it.

960

:

And it sounds amazing.

961

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: Thank you.

962

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yes, and I'll make

sure this is all in the show notes.

963

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And Marguerite, thank you

so much for your time.

964

:

This was amazing.

965

:

So it's an honor to know you and

I so love your work in the world.

966

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso:

Thank you so much, Liz.

967

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I really appreciate that.

968

:

And thank you for having me and, and

allowing people to find out about this

969

:

and also for the amazing work that

you're doing through these conversations,

970

:

bringing them to the public.

971

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yeah.

972

:

Oh, it's such a joy.

973

:

Such a joy.

974

:

Isn't it fun to do work?

975

:

I put in air quotes that just

like food for soul, right?

976

:

It's the best.

977

:

Marguerite Rigoglioso: Of course.

978

:

Yeah.

979

:

Liz Childs Kelly: Yes.

980

:

And thanks to all of you

for listening as always.

981

:

I'm so grateful for you for tuning

in and, and being interested in

982

:

these conversations and sharing back

with me how they're changing you.

983

:

I love hearing that too.

984

:

So yeah, if you like the show,

you can subscribe, you can

985

:

tell your friends about it.

986

:

There's a third one that I usually say,

you can give it a favorable review.

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:

Yeah.

988

:

You can do all those things and until then

take very, very good care of yourselves

989

:

and I will be with you again soon.

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Home to Her is hosted by me, Liz Kelley.

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You can visit me online at hometoher.

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com, where you can find show

notes and other episodes.

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You can read articles about the

Sacred Feminine, and you'll also

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find a link to join the Home to

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995

:

discussion and exploration of Her.

996

:

You can also follow me on Instagram,

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:

date with the latest episodes.

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Thanks so much for joining us

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