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This week on Podcaster Stories, I sit down with Nate Garrison of The EXTRAordinary Podcast.
The EXTRAordinary Podcast profiles ordinary people living extraordinary lives, who adhere to a lifestyle by design mindset.
Topics up for discussion this week include:
- how Nate's show evolved from being a co-hosted show into a solo host
- how the show came about from a personal development program that Nate created, the 8 Keys 2 Great
- how Covid changed the way he records and plans his show
- how he used to identify cities and advertise he was coming that way, to find guests for his show
- how Nate identifies what he feels would make an interesting guest for his show and listeners
- why he adheres to a lifestyle by design mindset
- why Covid has seen both a positive and negative change in personal behaviours
- how our lives have the chance to be redefined post-Covid
- what the 18 month rule is for podcasting, and why he uses it
- the two episodes that stand out for him
- how his endurance sports lifestyle prepares him for handling disappointment in life
- the moment he found he needed to step away from corporate life
- why you should judge success by how your life meets your actual needs, versus your material successes
- how his goal is to gain something from every guest he interviews
- his plans for scaling his podcast, and why he's looking forward to getting back to in-person interviews
- why he has no interest in interviewing celebrities and uber-successful people
- why meaningful conversations make for the best podcasts
- why his biggest piece of advice for podcasters is to be consistent
- why his parents are his heroes
Settle back for an enlightening talk about making and living by your own rules.
Connect with Nate:
Contact me: danny@podcasterstories.com
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Speaker:money. The success success is very important because I think
Speaker:success leaves characteristics and traits that are very important. But
Speaker:when it's so tied up into money into the financial
Speaker:side of it, then there's these other things to get
Speaker:neglected. These are the things that get removed. And when
Speaker:you can see when you can realize your success based
Speaker:on the lifestyle that you're able to craft, when you're
Speaker:able to value success on how you spend your day.
Speaker:Okay, well now we're onto something that we can kinda
Speaker:say, okay, well, let's Kraft a lifestyle that allows me
Speaker:to have the day.
Speaker:Did I want to have a hi and welcome to
Speaker:Podcast the Stories each episode, we will have a conversation
Speaker:with Podcast is from across the globe and share their
Speaker:story. What motivates them, why they start to do to
Speaker:show how they grew up in Moore will also talk
Speaker:about their personal lives. And some of the things that
Speaker:have happened with the dam, the person you are today,
Speaker:and now here's your host. Danny Brown. Hi, and welcome
Speaker:to another episode of Podcaster. Stories where we talk to
Speaker:the people behind the voices of the shows we were
Speaker:listening to this week. I'm speaking with Nate Garrison is
Speaker:host of The EXTRAordinary Podcast profiles, ordinary people living extraordinary
Speaker:lives. Nate welcome to the show.
Speaker:I really appreciate you joining us today. How about you?
Speaker:Tell me a little bit about yourself and the shot.
Speaker:Thanks, Danny. I appreciate you having me. All right, man.
Speaker:This is really exciting. A big fan of this show.
Speaker:I really love listening to it and yeah, so I'm
Speaker:a fellow Podcaster so we're all in this together. And
Speaker:my podcast is called the EXTRAordinary podcast and basically very
Speaker:similar to yours. We profile ordinary people, living extra ordinary
Speaker:lives and above and beyond that, my primary goal, a
Speaker:goal as the host is to share stories, stories, and
Speaker:experiences that shaped your life that had an impact that
Speaker:a left some kind of meaning or, or, or moral
Speaker:or something that made an impact in your life. And
Speaker:so, yeah, that's what I've been fortunate enough to know
Speaker:some really neat people.
Speaker:And they've been kind enough to grace me with some
Speaker:of their time and, and I've just had to share
Speaker:their message and share their story.
Speaker:No, no. I was looking at you show up at
Speaker:night and less than catch up on some of the
Speaker:episodes. And, and as you mentioned, you've got a wide
Speaker:variety. It meant a lot of people on the show
Speaker:honor, and a wide variety of experiences of the stories.
Speaker:And I know yourself has got your own story that
Speaker:will be talking about a relater and the changes you
Speaker:made. So how do you come up with the show
Speaker:idea? Is that based on your experiences yourself or was
Speaker:it something you always want to do it anyway?
Speaker:Yeah, it was kind of an evolution, to be honest
Speaker:with you and I, and full disclosure, I will say
Speaker:this, the original plan for this show was to be
Speaker:a, a co-hosted show with a buddy of mine. And
Speaker:he's the one who actually came up with the name
Speaker:They EXTRAordinary Podcast. And, and so if we were rolling
Speaker:with it and as it got down to brass tacks
Speaker:and really ready to execute, he didn't really want to
Speaker:do it anymore. He kind of backed out and said,
Speaker:know you take it and run with it. So, so
Speaker:that's where the name came from, but the premise behind
Speaker:the show, it was really about two years ago, I
Speaker:came up with the idea of a personal development program
Speaker:and, and I, and it was through some of the
Speaker:things that I was going on are some of the
Speaker:things that were going on in my own life.
Speaker:And that kind of lead to that. But through the
Speaker:process, I came up with this or through this self
Speaker:development process that I was going through. I came up
Speaker:with this idea of the Eight Keys to great. And
Speaker:what it was was I've got a construction background I'm
Speaker:way more comfortable swinging a hammer than I am behind
Speaker:the Microphone, as you can tell, by the way I
Speaker:talk. But so what I did was I took the
Speaker:way that you had remodel your home and applied that
Speaker:to how you would remodel your life. And I broke
Speaker:it down into these Eight Keys to, there is a
Speaker:lot of principals and, and a lot of background that
Speaker:goes into developing this Eight case. And so what I
Speaker:wanted to try to do is find people that were
Speaker:exhibiting some of the aspects of those Eight Keys to,
Speaker:and then profile them, find out where they got the
Speaker:ideas from what's working.
Speaker:What's not, and, and then they can showcase them through
Speaker:the Podcast and then you use their stories and their
Speaker:experiences to then validate a lot of the program that
Speaker:I was trying to put together. And so that was
Speaker:kind of the impetus for it. And it's just, quite
Speaker:honestly, the podcast has gone into a lot more than
Speaker:they are Keys are still coming along and there, it,
Speaker:like, we were just talking before we started recording we're
Speaker:in beta testing now, which is extremely exciting, but, but
Speaker:the podcast has since kind of taken off a little
Speaker:bit
Speaker:And speaking to the podcast that you mentioned there, it
Speaker:was originally going to be a co-host had shopped so
Speaker:right away, I mean, you've jumped down and you have
Speaker:done it yourself, all right away with a lot more
Speaker:of a challenge there what's been the biggest challenge. Have,
Speaker:you know, since the evolution of your show, since you
Speaker:started at it and how, how have you can do
Speaker:to overcome that?
Speaker:I think COVID was a real kick and the teeth.
Speaker:So for me, audio quality was something that was very
Speaker:important to me. I'm not an audio file and I
Speaker:have no background with this, but as a Podcast fan,
Speaker:and I would have, I would struggle to enjoy podcasts
Speaker:that you could tell they were divorced. They have a
Speaker:recording, or they were, you know, they were, they were
Speaker:not live or in person did the quality of the
Speaker:audio just really turned me off. So one of the
Speaker:deal's for me was when I started this podcast, it
Speaker:was all going to be in person. And of course
Speaker:that was great and amazing. And again, I had some
Speaker:really neat friends that I was able to corner and
Speaker:get to interview with me, but then COVID hit. And
Speaker:that obviously changed the game for everybody and for what
Speaker:its worth as the podcast was progressing.
Speaker:I also saw before COVID hit that, you know, the
Speaker:in person interview wasn't going to necessarily be sustainable. And
Speaker:of course at that same time, I was blessed with
Speaker:this gift of SquadCast that you and I are both
Speaker:recording on today. And that also changed the game for
Speaker:me because it allows me to get in person quality
Speaker:audio, but do it remotely. So overcoming that challenge was
Speaker:huge for me. And it opened up at a whole
Speaker:plethora of different guests that I'd never considered before a,
Speaker:and opened up a lot of new windows of opportunity,
Speaker:but one that never would have happened if it weren't
Speaker:for those circumstances.
Speaker:And of course, as you mentioned, it was going to
Speaker:be an in-person Podcast eye and you, you, you said
Speaker:it yourself and that there was, I guess, has a
Speaker:finite, a finite amount of people that you can do
Speaker:in your location and your geographical, you know, like circle
Speaker:of you like to do in person interviews. So what
Speaker:was your plan before a squad SquadCast or before a
Speaker:remote record and et cetera, what would your plan to
Speaker:continue to add to maybe the scale that then we
Speaker:have the impact
Speaker:And interviewing well for what it's worth? I have traveled
Speaker:with it. I took it on the road. I basically
Speaker:my new, my plan originally was to identify a city
Speaker:and then go to that city and get as many
Speaker:interviews there as I could. And so the first trip
Speaker:was out to Denver, Colorado, and I was able to
Speaker:line up some really neat guests and, and knocked out
Speaker:about a half a dozen the first day or the
Speaker:first two days. And then it got a couple of
Speaker:more than just stumbled into my lap. As a result
Speaker:of me letting the world know, Hey, I'm going to
Speaker:be in Colorado doing these podcast interviews. And, but, so
Speaker:that was my first experience. And it worked out really
Speaker:well and a better than expected quite honestly.
Speaker:And then it became this thing where I was like,
Speaker:started identifying these, all the towns I wanted to go
Speaker:to and who could I get while I was there
Speaker:and said the next one was to salt Lake city.
Speaker:And Well just to really the state of Utah, because
Speaker:I ended up putting in about 800 miles of my
Speaker:rental car in a few days. So just bouncing around
Speaker:this state catching interview's, and again, I've got to stay
Speaker:with friends. I was able to do it really inexpensively
Speaker:on a, on a, on a really cheap time and
Speaker:the experience and the memories from it were amazing. So
Speaker:it was like, well, that's a model I could follow.
Speaker:I can get into this. This can be a lot
Speaker:of fun. And then again, like I said, COVID hit.
Speaker:So it changed things, but I was, I was really,
Speaker:and for what it's worth, I have intentions in an
Speaker:hour and still on the process of getting back to
Speaker:that format as well.
Speaker:Look out in new Orleans here I come on. No
Speaker:worries.
Speaker:So that would be a good protocol. And you get
Speaker:some really good vibes behind you that when you were
Speaker:a card and now for sure. Oh, no, definitely. That's
Speaker:one of the things I find call about your show
Speaker:that you had mentioned that when you were doing the
Speaker:same person is especially, you were saying that you are
Speaker:gonna have a steady up and, you know, let's do
Speaker:a podcast for example, and you're sure has a huge
Speaker:variety of guests. I mean, once a week you might
Speaker:be T speaking to craft brewer, for example, and the
Speaker:next you're talking to someone it's just like putting your
Speaker:body through how we have a tough motto of course,
Speaker:and you know, somewhere in June and say programs and
Speaker:courses and triathlons, et cetera. So is it a formula
Speaker:for who you think would be a good guest for
Speaker:the show and for your listeners, or is that sort
Speaker:of evolved as a team come by as well?
Speaker:Well, I've definitely had an and still have to this
Speaker:day. I keep a running list of guests that I
Speaker:think would be interesting or our guests. I think they're
Speaker:a good fit for the show, but at the end
Speaker:of the day for me, well, and so it started
Speaker:off with, alright, well, who do you know, who do
Speaker:you know that it has an interesting story and as
Speaker:luck would have it, it was really interesting. I happened
Speaker:to have gone to high school with some really some
Speaker:people that have gone on to do some really neat
Speaker:things. And some people that were quite honestly weren't that
Speaker:interesting or, or becoming in high school, they have now
Speaker:gone on to achieve some, some re and to do
Speaker:some really neat project. So that was number one that
Speaker:was really cool to kind of go through and connect
Speaker:with people that I hadn't seen for a long time.
Speaker:But the, again, the original premise was who do I
Speaker:know that are exemplifying a lifestyle by design. And that
Speaker:is really kind of a key for the H that
Speaker:that's the backbone of the Eight Keys to Great and
Speaker:it's really has become a big theme for the show.
Speaker:It's how are you crafting your lifestyle? Like you talked
Speaker:about for you, for example, you guys decided to get
Speaker:out of the big city and move to a location
Speaker:that gave your kids a better environment for there, for
Speaker:them to grow up in. And for me, that's a
Speaker:huge aspect that I feel like we've gotten away from.
Speaker:I think that we've gotten so focused on money and
Speaker:fortune and success, which I think success is an important
Speaker:part of the equation, but we forgotten about some of
Speaker:that lifestyle aspects that are so important.
Speaker:So it really, with my guest is like, what, how
Speaker:are they living in an amazing lifestyle? And if they're
Speaker:living a lifestyle by design by their own design, then
Speaker:there is somebody I want to talk to.
Speaker:Hm. And it's interesting, you mention about the fact that
Speaker:I have, so my family move to a quiet place.
Speaker:I know you make some big changes for the life
Speaker:that you guys are living. Do you think there with
Speaker:COVID obviously is having a major impact on a hope,
Speaker:hope people work. There are a lot of companies that
Speaker:are making people stay at home, et cetera. Do you
Speaker:think it's allowing people the time to sort of breathe
Speaker:a bit and take stock and they may even changed
Speaker:their own approaches to how they want to live posts.
Speaker:I mean, there's not going to be a post COVID
Speaker:if you like, but once see a vaccine as a
Speaker:widespread, et cetera. And, and what can we get back
Speaker:to the seminar morality? Do you think it's like, it's
Speaker:a big opportunity for people to reset their lives at
Speaker:this stage?
Speaker:Well, I think there's a tremendous amount of opportunity is
Speaker:coming from all of this. But unfortunately I think we've
Speaker:seen a lot of negative consequences in that it's been
Speaker:a real easy for us and myself included. I mean,
Speaker:I'll put myself at the top of the list to,
Speaker:you know, dive heavy into a social media and to
Speaker:spend more time on Netflix maybe than we normally would,
Speaker:and to get into some unproductive behaviors. And I think
Speaker:really, particularly at first, for myself personally, I found myself
Speaker:falling into that trap quite a bit. And, and for
Speaker:what it's worth, you know, We are, I just was
Speaker:lucky enough to start crafting this lifestyle design idea in
Speaker:concept about a year, a year and a half before
Speaker:this hit.
Speaker:So I feel incredibly blessed and lucky that I was
Speaker:already kind of laying the groundwork for this when all
Speaker:of this hit. And it sounds like that was the
Speaker:same case for you, but you guys, so you had
Speaker:fortunately been kind of taking steps to get right before
Speaker:all this happened. And then when this happened, you would
Speaker:then be better prepared for that. And I think for
Speaker:myself as well, we were very fortunate that that was
Speaker:the case, but for a lot of people that was
Speaker:not the case. A lot of the first that this
Speaker:caught us with our pants down, you know, we just
Speaker:were really caught off guard, but now that it's, there
Speaker:is opportunity. We were, were seeing our, our, our work
Speaker:be redefined, were seeing our job descriptions be redefined, were
Speaker:seeing our day to day activities be redefined.
Speaker:And I think that provides opportunity to really begin to
Speaker:craft our lifestyle. This is the really an eye-opening slap
Speaker:in the face, if you will to say, okay, what
Speaker:is your lifestyle look like? What am I doing every
Speaker:day? How, what has my life turned into as a
Speaker:result of COVID? Has it gotten better? Has it gotten
Speaker:worse? And if so, what am I going to do
Speaker:about that? And so I think its given us all
Speaker:of the big, kind of a bit of a reality
Speaker:check.
Speaker:So you mentioned earlier on the shore has really taken
Speaker:off. Umm, and even though you got to study flip
Speaker:that a little bit of from it and person interviews
Speaker:to get them up state, it still continues to grow
Speaker:at, has really taken off a nice lift for you.
Speaker:And it's been gone it's for about what is it?
Speaker:18 months? No, I think it was at the last
Speaker:me when, when you publish it, have there been any
Speaker:episodes that have certainly stood out for you all over
Speaker:the other is not for any better reasons or whatever
Speaker:bit there just for whatever reason connected with you and
Speaker:if so, why that one and why do you show
Speaker:us in particular?
Speaker:Yeah, I'll give you a good one and a bad
Speaker:one. But before I do that, there is something to
Speaker:be said about that 18 month rule. And I'm really
Speaker:glad that you brought that up because as podcasters or,
Speaker:and again, I'll just speak for myself as a Podcast
Speaker:or you know, that first year I felt like I
Speaker:was really putting out some great content and nobody's listening
Speaker:man, and it's crickets out there and you and he
Speaker:and I could get, I used limps and which provides
Speaker:a tremendous amount of information, background demographics and all this
Speaker:kind of stuff, which is great when you have people
Speaker:that are listening, but it's incredibly depressing when you don't.
Speaker:And, and I like many people thought of podcasting as
Speaker:this, this growth curve would be a diagonal line where
Speaker:you had, you know, it just gradually start to build,
Speaker:start to grow and whatnot, but I'll listen to a
Speaker:Justin Schneck has a podcast and really smart guy.
Speaker:And he talked about its an exponential curve. It's not
Speaker:a straight line. And really when he said he's got
Speaker:that 18 month rule where he says around that 18
Speaker:months around that, you know, 60, 75 episode Mark is
Speaker:when you begin to, if you've got a good product,
Speaker:you begin see some are some things take off and
Speaker:you begin to see some growth and some sustainability and
Speaker:you know, knock on wood. That was appears to be
Speaker:what is the case for me? And I hate to
Speaker:even say it out loud because having lived in the
Speaker:dark for so long, I'm so scared every day that
Speaker:is going to go back to that. You just never
Speaker:know. But, but as far as episodes go, the, the
Speaker:episode, I have an episode called three habits in 30
Speaker:minutes and for what it's worth, I have done a
Speaker:quite a bit of promoting of that episode.
Speaker:And it's also one of my shortest. So you don't
Speaker:know what that tells you, but I'm that episode has
Speaker:really done. Well, it's done substantially better than any of
Speaker:our other episodes by far leaps and bounds. And I
Speaker:don't know why, and I don't care, but again, like
Speaker:I said, I do promote that one because it's a,
Speaker:it's a short self-help tool that helps us establish a
Speaker:morning routine, but that episode has taken off and its
Speaker:been that episode is given me the confidence to really
Speaker:move forward with my Eight Keys to Great. But I'll
Speaker:tell you the opposite of that. Write about that same
Speaker:time or shortly thereafter. I did an episode with a
Speaker:Grammy award winning artist speech from arrested development.
Speaker:He's a hip hop guy. He's he's old school. You
Speaker:know, I give you that he is from my generation
Speaker:and kind of nineties hip hop and, and what not.
Speaker:But to me the guy won two or three Grammys,
Speaker:a rest of the vault Mami. There is still, their
Speaker:music is still relevant. It's still being played. They played
Speaker:it at some of the Falcons game. So I mean
Speaker:it's, there, there, there are somewhat relevant. And I, and
Speaker:I did a really great job preparing for this interview,
Speaker:spent a lot of time getting ready and met them
Speaker:down at this place. We videotaped it in 4k high
Speaker:definition and it was this amazing experience. He had a
Speaker:blast, it went way longer than what he had allotted
Speaker:for, but he like, I kept trying to end it
Speaker:and he kept it going. So I'm like, man, this
Speaker:is a mess. And then at the, and he was
Speaker:like, man, we should do this again.
Speaker:I'm like, Oh it was so great. And then I
Speaker:go back and listen and it felt like the interview
Speaker:went great. I just thought I'd knocked it out. And
Speaker:I'm like, okay, validation. This is my thing. I'm ah,
Speaker:yes. You know, finally and I publish it like a
Speaker:couple of weeks later
Speaker:And one of my worst episodes. Wow,
Speaker:No, no body like, especially right out of the gate.
Speaker:No. I mean, did you talk about Cricket's? I mean,
Speaker:I, I was shocked. I mean, because my podcast has
Speaker:kinda been building a little bit of momentum at that
Speaker:point. And so I'm really thinking that the, the concept
Speaker:is working and I've got this amazing guest to go
Speaker:with the Great concept and it tanked man and the
Speaker:whole podcast for the next couple of weeks did not
Speaker:do very well. And so it was like, man, that
Speaker:was a tough time. It was really what you started
Speaker:to question and why is this what I'm supposed to
Speaker:be here?
Speaker:But now we know you like you were into definitely
Speaker:like endurance sports, you know, you know, you had a
Speaker:triathlons Marfa and stuff, a moderate, et cetera. Does that
Speaker:help you when you mentioning like an episode like that,
Speaker:for example, you think, you know what? I've got it
Speaker:here. This is a golden ticket, so to speak and
Speaker:were going to knock out of the park and I'm
Speaker:gonna grab a knife. Those are the new subscribers overnight.
Speaker:And then it tanks like you see an end, it
Speaker:still, it still platters with that side of the law
Speaker:audience number. Does that kind of you, or does the
Speaker:stamina you need and then doing this, do you need
Speaker:for your physical life transport over to the Podcast when
Speaker:you see stuff like that, they keep you going?
Speaker:Definitely, definitely. I mean, I'm obviously a big fan of
Speaker:endurance sports and one of my motto is a one
Speaker:of my little things. And if you go to the
Speaker:website, I actually have a challenge and it's called running
Speaker:a marathon challenge. And it's just how to walk someone
Speaker:through training and completing a marathon. And I think, and
Speaker:I believe that everyone should go through either that experience
Speaker:or something like that because in the marathon you hit
Speaker:this classic thing called a wall where the wheels fall
Speaker:off, everything goes astray. You feel like your broken, most
Speaker:people assume its an injury. Oh, I just broke my
Speaker:it band or I tore my ACL or I mean
Speaker:like literally they think that they're, you know, on death's
Speaker:doorstep and if you can keep going, if you learn
Speaker:how to push through that wall and most of the
Speaker:time you're just walking at that point.
Speaker:So it's not even like your, you know, going in,
Speaker:you know, but having this big aha moment at the
Speaker:end. But if you're just persevere and see that through,
Speaker:it gives you this mental toughness, it gives you this
Speaker:edge that you learned that you're capable of more than
Speaker:what you thought you were. And I think that once
Speaker:you do that, it's like it's an extra bullet in
Speaker:your, in your holster. You know, it's an extra little
Speaker:something that, you know, it's an extra ACEP, your sleep.
Speaker:And I think that that serves you well when it
Speaker:comes to any kind of business or podcasting or anything,
Speaker:that's going to be hard or difficult to work to
Speaker:achieve.
Speaker:And if you do that enough time than you realize,
Speaker:man there who are capable of some really amazing thing.
Speaker:And, and speaking to that, you are sure, obviously it
Speaker:pulls from your experiences and a guest that you have
Speaker:on it, you know, a loose your own experiences and
Speaker:moving from corporate and to the life that you and
Speaker:your family have known that you plant for you and
Speaker:your family. And as you mentioned that it keeps it
Speaker:a great program and, and everything that is attached to
Speaker:that, what was the moment you pivoted? And then you
Speaker:realize that, you know what this, because you don't have
Speaker:a real successful corporate life, you know, a corporate background
Speaker:and you were, you, you mentioned success early are in
Speaker:it and where, you know, success is important, but, but
Speaker:you step away from that sort of speaker. You step
Speaker:away from that success to a new success. So what
Speaker:was a moment that, that, that suddenly blight went off,
Speaker:you just saw what I'm doing this and this is
Speaker:why,
Speaker:Well, its funny, cause I've actually had a couple of
Speaker:those, but I mean, I have been, I feel incredibly
Speaker:blessed in an incredibly fortunate because so many of the
Speaker:opportunities that I've gotten have I have just stumbled upon
Speaker:for what it's worth. I mean, I, I feel like
Speaker:I do have a pretty good plan and vision now,
Speaker:but most of my life has certainly was not the
Speaker:case, but a lot of these opportunities that were a
Speaker:lot of it was just being in the right time
Speaker:and the right place. And, and a lot of times
Speaker:just knowing the right people every time I was reflecting
Speaker:back on this, as I was trying to write some
Speaker:for this book and get some of this work done
Speaker:and, and trying to 'cause when I would go in
Speaker:through the ranks.
Speaker:And as you're in the moment, you don't always have
Speaker:time to reflect back on what you've been able to
Speaker:achieve or, or where you're at at, at this stage
Speaker:in your life or things you've done well or even
Speaker:things you've done bad. So it wasn't until I got
Speaker:into this stage of this podcast and this personal development
Speaker:thing that did some of that reflection and what I
Speaker:thought going into it, I was going to be, I
Speaker:felt a little disappointed, like a Well, you know, maybe
Speaker:we haven't had all of the financial success that some
Speaker:people have not this multimillionaire live in, you know, I
Speaker:don't have the boat and the mansion on the Hill
Speaker:and all that kind of stuff, because that was my
Speaker:mindset, you know, but then as I started going through
Speaker:this personal development process and really identifying, okay, well, what
Speaker:do you want your life to look like in 10
Speaker:years?
Speaker:What are the things that you want to have in
Speaker:it? What are those material possessions? If you could have
Speaker:anything that you want and through going through developing the
Speaker:process of, of determining that, I realized that I didn't
Speaker:put a lot of value on some of these material
Speaker:things, my values and what our placed importance was on
Speaker:family and like being at my kid's soccer game and
Speaker:like, or like be more potent, being able to be
Speaker:the coach for my kids soccer team. And you, you
Speaker:know, some of those, all of these different again, when
Speaker:I started realizing, well, you know, it's really not so
Speaker:much about the, the money, the success success is very
Speaker:important because I think success leaves characteristics and traits that
Speaker:are very important.
Speaker:But when it's so tied up into money into the
Speaker:financial side of it, then there's these other things to
Speaker:get neglected. These are the things that get removed. And
Speaker:when you can see, when you can realize your success
Speaker:based on the lifestyle that you're able to craft, when
Speaker:you're able to value success on how you spend your
Speaker:day, okay, well now we're on to something. Now we
Speaker:can kinda say, okay, well let's Kraft a lifestyle that
Speaker:allows me to have the day that I want to
Speaker:have that every day, day now, you know, the, I
Speaker:want to live on a beach and drink pina coladas.
Speaker:Okay, well that's a fantasy and that's going to be
Speaker:fun for about a month until your 500 pounds in
Speaker:a drunk, but you know, and we with a sunburn,
Speaker:but how do you want to spend that everyday day?
Speaker:And I think that that's, what's really fascinating to me
Speaker:about you is that you guys began crafting that with
Speaker:your move out to the it's getting out of the
Speaker:city and saying like, Oh, because I'm a big believer
Speaker:like that, connecting with nature, that getting back to your
Speaker:roots, like walking, just walking the woods, you know, just
Speaker:hearing the birds chirp and the little squirrel digging around
Speaker:in the dirt and whatever it seems stupid. But I
Speaker:think there's meaning in that. I think there's purpose in
Speaker:it. And I think that having that as part of
Speaker:our lives as necessary for our overall health. So for
Speaker:me, that's what it is, what it came down to
Speaker:as all right, well, how can I craft my life
Speaker:and my everyday activities to do what do I love,
Speaker:what I love and what I really enjoy so that
Speaker:when it came down to, okay, well, what do I
Speaker:love?
Speaker:What do I enjoy? How am I going to spend
Speaker:my day? And that takes a little bit of thought.
Speaker:And that takes a little bit of time because for
Speaker:what I thought was gonna make me happy with it,
Speaker:I thought it was how I want to spend my
Speaker:day was an accurate, and it wasn't through continual morning
Speaker:meditation and affirmations going through this, some of this process
Speaker:of figuring some of that out, that, okay, now I've
Speaker:gotten some clarity to what that needs to look like.
Speaker:And so now I spend everyday trying to visualize that,
Speaker:make it happen.
Speaker:I know what you mean. My wife and she suffers
Speaker:from anxiety, my assurance like a mental health blog too,
Speaker:to speak about her experiences. And a lot of the
Speaker:things she did when we moved down here at As,
Speaker:she really started listening to a lot of Jim quick.
Speaker:And that, that guy
Speaker:Before you said that what's the name of her blog
Speaker:is a mental health on me. And tell me her
Speaker:name because I didn't catch it.
Speaker:Oh, her name is Jacqueline, Jacqueline Jacqueline. So yeah, she,
Speaker:she take a break over the study. We went and
Speaker:while we were doing the movie and everything, but she
Speaker:was getting back into that, throw a podcast for a
Speaker:long enough, or I have no idea of where that
Speaker:idea would have come from. So yeah, I completely agreed
Speaker:that the movie or made all the difference with just
Speaker:being in a week and up one morning and say,
Speaker:dear, what a cross like the backyards, you know, what,
Speaker:where did that come from? I mean, he is, and
Speaker:I know it's a pleasure to see beautiful, like a
Speaker:dedicated father man, where we were speaking earlier about your
Speaker:kids. And, you know, you mentioned there about, you know,
Speaker:you want it to be there, the coach for the
Speaker:soccer team and being involved in your kids' lives and
Speaker:making sure that you're there for them with the shore
Speaker:and, and the Podcast get in so many different insights
Speaker:from people live in lives, on their own rules or
Speaker:by their own rules as you, like, how has that
Speaker:helped you achieve then state and site and say to
Speaker:even have the helped you be more apart of the
Speaker:family for want of a better description of your phone
Speaker:out of you, if you're always been the, the, the,
Speaker:the, the farmer person?
Speaker:Well, yes. So for what its worth, I have to
Speaker:have a total of five kids. My two oldest boys
Speaker:who are our, I call them adults'. Now when I
Speaker:was halfway through college or the other one is finished
Speaker:college, and he's out doing his own thing live in
Speaker:his own life. So yes, to, to your point, I
Speaker:have always been a bit of a family man, and,
Speaker:and families always been something that's very important to me.
Speaker:Now I'm also half way through my second divorce. So
Speaker:for what its worth it, I've also had some struggles
Speaker:in that area as well, but it certainly is something
Speaker:that's very important to me. I, I try to steal
Speaker:something from every guest. I talk to them and I
Speaker:know that every person that I talked to you, whether
Speaker:they're a guest on the show or not, they have
Speaker:some kind of value to bring to the table.
Speaker:They have some knowledge that I can take from that.
Speaker:They have something that I can benefit from. So that
Speaker:is a big goal of each of each interview that
Speaker:I have is to extrapolate the things that they are
Speaker:doing. And so, yeah, to have a man, every single
Speaker:person I interview and I'm gaining all kind of information
Speaker:from, you know, is it Jim Rowan has got a
Speaker:really great quote that says, you're the average of the
Speaker:five people that you spend the most time with Well.
Speaker:So if I'm spending my time with all these brilliant
Speaker:people in all of these amazing guests than hopefully some
Speaker:of that stuff's rubbing off on me a little bit,
Speaker:I know you'd mentioned obviously your goal for the show
Speaker:is to extrapolate, you know, and site or something from
Speaker:at least one thing from every guest. So what's that
Speaker:mean? Why should you go to the show you're 18
Speaker:months then you were, you know, we're at a nice
Speaker:part of a period of you're like, so what are
Speaker:your plans to do to scale that out and expand
Speaker:either of, you know, once in person interviews back in
Speaker:the lane again, or, or, or whatever.
Speaker:Yeah. So we've been fortunate to get back to some
Speaker:in person interviews. My, he had a recent are not
Speaker:the one that's out right now, but the one before
Speaker:that was with Eric nine, who is a local Atlanta
Speaker:artist, amazing talent. We got to do our interview in
Speaker:person. I have another really interesting one coming up with
Speaker:Nathan rough, and he's got a fascinating business and the
Speaker:kid's 27 years old and just got the world at
Speaker:his feet. And so that's a good when we get
Speaker:to do in person, I'm really excited to get that
Speaker:one out there. But as far as scaling it, I'd
Speaker:like the fact that its opened me up to interviewing
Speaker:more than just who I can get in person.
Speaker:The neatest thing about the Covid thing for me has
Speaker:been the international guests. I've spent more time in the
Speaker:Australian times though in the past month that I have
Speaker:in my entire life. And I've, I've got to interview
Speaker:guests in Japan, Spain I've been interviewed in Spain. I
Speaker:was interviewed in London. Yeah. So like this, this thing
Speaker:went international kind of overnight and that's been a tremendously
Speaker:exciting, umm, so I hope to continue with that. And
Speaker:as far as the future of the show, I think
Speaker:it's ultimately going to go into a couple of different
Speaker:directions. I hope to continue to get higher profile guests,
Speaker:kinda like the Ryan holiday's and the, the Tim Ferriss
Speaker:of the world that are still within this vein, but
Speaker:living in an interesting lifestyle or, or, or still fit
Speaker:within my parameters.
Speaker:One thing I'm not interested in doing is interviewing celebrity
Speaker:or going after celebrity status or startup or anything like
Speaker:that because I've done or, or, or quite frankly, Uber
Speaker:successful like the billionaire types. And primarily because that, what
Speaker:I've found is those types of people don't fit my
Speaker:profile. They don't fit my definition of what success and
Speaker:lifestyle design looks like. So I don't have much of
Speaker:a desire to go that direction. The desire that I
Speaker:had started to go down or the, the path that
Speaker:I started to go down to aside from the getting
Speaker:bigger and more exciting guests as, or more high profile
Speaker:guests rather is, I've also been getting some people that
Speaker:I didn't know.
Speaker:So it kind of going the opposite way. So the
Speaker:more of that ordinary person trying to craft a lifestyle
Speaker:by design through some of the coaching that I'm doing
Speaker:and that the self-help development program it's given me access
Speaker:to a lot of people that have a lot of
Speaker:potential and have their own cool little story to share.
Speaker:And as I've interviewed them, I've gotten some really neat
Speaker:take-aways and insights on number one, how to provide a
Speaker:better personal development program, but two things that I've been
Speaker:missing from doing some of these higher profile interview. So
Speaker:it's been really neat to add that into the mix
Speaker:as well. So I'm hoping to kind of a theme,
Speaker:some of those at a little bit as we continue
Speaker:to grow
Speaker:Cool. And then all of us have that will tie
Speaker:into your program. And as you mentioned, and then maybe
Speaker:I was like a sub train on and off of
Speaker:there, but it seems to it, I find it a
Speaker:lot of times, which is pretty cool. I got a
Speaker:podcast is a great ideation place for so many other
Speaker:cool things to happen. And it comes as you mentioned,
Speaker:because you have a guest that sparks something you heard
Speaker:from a good man. I really want to try that
Speaker:and all that sort of a really cool
Speaker:What's the coolest part about these experiences is like when
Speaker:you have meaningful conversations and its not just a, you
Speaker:know, a diatribe, if somebody just spewing out their book
Speaker:topic or whatever the case is, where you can actually
Speaker:have a good conversation, it's amazing how that comes from
Speaker:it. My buddy Walker, NIR has a really cool show
Speaker:called the wok show podcast. And the conversations that he
Speaker:gets into with guests are so engaged that we have
Speaker:reminds me of a ton of the whole Joe Rogan
Speaker:thing, but it's really, it's really engaging for the listener
Speaker:to see where they go with it. And I, I
Speaker:really find that appealing.
Speaker:No, no, no. And speaking of that, you are, you've
Speaker:got to show that it's being gone for 18 months
Speaker:now and you've got ideas as to where you want
Speaker:it to go up and up over the next 18
Speaker:months, for an example, for someone who is thinking of
Speaker:coming in to the podcast in industry, either, you know,
Speaker:within your niche or just like in podcasts in general,
Speaker:what would be your one piece of advice you would
Speaker:give them?
Speaker:I gave this advice out con quite a bit on
Speaker:the Facebook groups and in some of the forums and
Speaker:it's consistency show up at the same time, this same
Speaker:day, always weather that's. If your, if you decide its
Speaker:once a week, then due once a week, if its
Speaker:once every two weeks and do it once every two
Speaker:weeks, if its once a day or do it once
Speaker:a day, but whatever you do stick to that. And,
Speaker:and for me I've been really good about the weekly
Speaker:being very consistent and making sure that I got something
Speaker:out every week, but where I got off was the
Speaker:timing. Like I would make sure that we go off
Speaker:that week, but sometimes it would be Monday at noon.
Speaker:Other times it would be Sunday at midnight. And so
Speaker:there was some flexibility there and I got off track
Speaker:there and I think it, that hindered the growth of
Speaker:my podcast.
Speaker:And so what I encourage everyone is to think about
Speaker:it like a television show. You know, if you're from
Speaker:an older generation like me, you remember, you know, Hey
Speaker:Thursday night, eight o'clock, you know, Seinfeld's coming on or
Speaker:whatever your show of choice was at that particular day
Speaker:in time and you showed up for it. And when
Speaker:you can do that for your listeners, they'll keep showing
Speaker:up. Now they'll show up every day and they'll hear
Speaker:what you have to say. And if your stuff is
Speaker:good, they'll keep listening. Know if it's not good, they'll
Speaker:tune you out eventually. But, but they will listen if
Speaker:you show up every single day or if you show
Speaker:up consistently, if you don't and that first time you
Speaker:Ms. Mann, you feel it and you see it in
Speaker:the numbers and every time every listener you lose, I
Speaker:question if you'll ever get them back and, and the
Speaker:thought of losing a listener when they're so precious to
Speaker:me, that's terrifying.
Speaker:The point you made about T V though, like on
Speaker:a Sunday night air clock, you always knew what she
Speaker:was coming on. As we would sit down and you
Speaker:would get your popcorn, what are you doing?
Speaker:It was game of Thrones or Seinfeld back in my
Speaker:day, you would, you still showed up, you know?
Speaker:Exactly. And, and the fact that Podcast has to be
Speaker:accessible, you know, you get that a lot of enough
Speaker:to get notifications late on your phones to say, Hey,
Speaker:a new podcast just dropped a new episode, just dropped.
Speaker:So I really like that. You don't have that consistency,
Speaker:but not just for the regular weekly an event, but
Speaker:the time of the day at the time. But it
Speaker:all builds at the whole brand of the podcast app.
Speaker:And to think about this, when you were watching that
Speaker:TV show, you only had, let's say you had an
Speaker:extended package cable of a, a a hundred pack, a
Speaker:a hundred other channels to choose from. They have 350,000
Speaker:other podcasts. They can go listen to you. So don't
Speaker:think for a second that somebody else isn't going to
Speaker:snatch them up.
Speaker:No, for sure. You've had a, a, as you mentioned
Speaker:out of that, you've had a, a great line up
Speaker:of different guests. You know, throw them, you know, are
Speaker:certainly Sammy celebrities, I, and others that are celebrities, obviously
Speaker:to people coming through the ranks of your life, but
Speaker:all have these cool stories and, and your own life
Speaker:is, has been shaped in various ways because of, you
Speaker:know, experiences you've had. So if you were to name
Speaker:one passion and it stands up, it was a hero
Speaker:for you, a personal hero in our fitness here off,
Speaker:and you want to say it or whatever, who would
Speaker:it be and why that person,
Speaker:It would probably be on my parents as much as
Speaker:this is kind of a cheesy And answers. That is,
Speaker:umm, I have been blessed to come from Great stock
Speaker:I'm and you talk about some of the interesting guests
Speaker:I have had on the show. Several of those guests
Speaker:have been a result of the relationship with my parents
Speaker:as opposed to a relationship that I had. And they
Speaker:were kind enough to, to set those opportunities up for
Speaker:me. And you talk about me being into endurance sports.
Speaker:Well, that seed was planted very early on with my
Speaker:parents. They both have were active marathon runners with me
Speaker:growing up, they've always been into athletics and as triathlon
Speaker:became a sport in grew into a popular sport, they
Speaker:grew right along with that.
Speaker:And for any physical accomplishment that I've done, they have
Speaker:done that 20 years older. And then some of you,
Speaker:like I said, like, anything that I've done is the
Speaker:slightest bit impressive. I say, go take a look at
Speaker:my, my mother, for example, you know, I was fortunate
Speaker:enough to be able to do a couple of iron
Speaker:man triathlons. That's a 140 plus miles or whatever. And
Speaker:that's a, that's a feat in of itself. But doing
Speaker:those, if you, if you qualify a few plays high
Speaker:enough than you qualify to go to the world championships
Speaker:in Kona, Hawaii, and that's the one you see on
Speaker:TV, it's a real big deal. And like for somebody
Speaker:like me, I mean, I, there's no chance of me
Speaker:ever getting that.
Speaker:At least not for the next 20 years anyway, of
Speaker:getting an opportunity to be fast enough to go do
Speaker:that. Well, she qualified to go do that at 69
Speaker:years old, I believe she was. And, and, and went
Speaker:to Hawaii, did Kona, which has one of the toughest
Speaker:Ironman races out there. And three weeks later, three weeks
Speaker:later was back in Florida doing the race with me
Speaker:and my sister and her brother So. So you talk
Speaker:about heroes. You talk about an example. I like to
Speaker:toot my own horn. I like to think I'm something
Speaker:special, but all I've got to do is take a
Speaker:look down in Orlando, Florida to get humbled real quick.
Speaker:So the goal is for you yourself, when you were
Speaker:like six to nine, seven a year or so,
Speaker:I've got 20 more years of doing this before I
Speaker:can even come close to doing what they're doing. So
Speaker:yeah, I've got my work cut out for me.
Speaker:Oh, that's the last time I, I couldn't imagine, you
Speaker:know, I, when I was reading the, there, the stuff
Speaker:that you do passionately, I couldn't imagine being 17 in
Speaker:doing that are six to nine, so on. And so
Speaker:in doing that stuff as well, I was like, wow,
Speaker:really? That's, that's incredible
Speaker:Is pretty amazing. And they're a while. And then what
Speaker:I like about their story is that it just shows
Speaker:you what's possible. It just shows you how much of
Speaker:our day to day lives is. We live in that
Speaker:limited mindset. A lot of what we don't have, what
Speaker:we think is not possible. My mother just got done
Speaker:with the reconstructive knee surgery. It made it had the
Speaker:entire knee replaced so she can keep running. And then
Speaker:now she's closer to 75, you know, and, but she
Speaker:had that surgery done because she still in shape because
Speaker:she was still active and wants to be able to
Speaker:continue to do that. And when you do that for
Speaker:a year after year, decade after decade and you and
Speaker:I get to look and see the result of that
Speaker:long-term lifestyle, I mean, why, how could I not come
Speaker:up with a program that is about lifestyle design?
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:No, no for sure. Exactly. So now this has been
Speaker:an absolute blast. I really enjoy chatting with you today
Speaker:for people that want to check out your podcast or
Speaker:your Eight Keys to a great program, or even if
Speaker:they want to find out how to run a monofin
Speaker:and start to doing it for a matter of fact,
Speaker:where is the best people can find you and connect
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Speaker:Well, it's the EXTRAordinary, Podcast M and it's a giant
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Speaker:an EXTRAordinary podcast.net site, but the Eight Keys to Great
Speaker:site has everything.
Speaker:It's got the marathon challenge. It's got some what I
Speaker:think a pretty good blog posts. I'm pretty funny. The
Speaker:way you talk about stories, there are some pretty good
Speaker:stories on some of those blog posts. Then you can
Speaker:find that all of the podcast episodes there, and if
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Speaker:they come out.
Speaker:So thank you. Danny so much for having me. This
Speaker:was amazing. And I felt like I've done way too
Speaker:much talking.
Speaker:No, no, not at Dell. And I'll be sure to
Speaker:leave all the links to the website. They are our
Speaker:social channels, etcetera, where they can find a program in
Speaker:the show notes. So you are listening to the show
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Speaker:the power of the show notes as usual. And you'll
Speaker:find all the links for the needs to have a
Speaker:web site in details there so that you can mention
Speaker:that. Thanks a lot for appeared. And I really appreciate
Speaker:it today.
Speaker:Yeah. And I'll be sure to plug your podcast on
Speaker:all of my stuff and will keep that circle. Go
Speaker:ahead, man. Keep doing what you're doing this thing. And
Speaker:this kind of stuff is so important, man. And I
Speaker:love the direction that you're headed and grateful to be
Speaker:a part of.
Speaker:I love it. Awesome. Thank you. All right. So this
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