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042: "As your company is starting up, there are a lot of growing pains. With growing pains, there are a lot of things that you learn." Premium salad dressings with Stacy Currie

Stacy is the wife of a United States Marine Corps Veteran and has been an educator for over 25 years at the high school and university levels. She is always busy developing and testing recipes for a wide variety of salad dressings and marinades, including recipes using Semper Savage products. Her hard work ensures Semper Savage product offerings continue to grow, along with the company. She drives all aspects of product production guaranteeing continued excellence and quality so Semper Savage products remain the best in the marketplace. Stacy is an avid hiker who loves all aspects of outdoor life.

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all right. Hey everyone. Welcome back, Jen emos here with holding down the fort. And every time I get to do another show, it means that I get to interview another incredible person in our military community. I want to introduce you all to Stacy curry, who is the wife of United States Marine Corps veteran. Also Stacy has been an educator for over 25 years at the high school and university levels. She is always busy developing and testing recipes for a wide variety of salad dressings and marinades including recipes using sempere savage products. Her hard work ensures that sempere savage product offerings continue to grow along with the company. She drives all aspects of product production guaranteeing continued excellence and quality. So sempere savage products remain the best in the marketplace. Stacy is an avid hiker who loves all aspects of outdoor life. Stacy, welcome to the show. Hi, Jen. Thanks

Unknown Speaker 4:35

for having me.

Jen Amos 4:37

Yeah, it's my absolute pleasure. I'm so glad that Kirsten was able to connect us. I was curious to know how do you know her and Kimber and vert force?

Speaker 1 4:45

So um, great. So I think this veterans of supporting veterans, we were on a podcast a few months ago. And John actually was talking to the guys in the podcast afterwards, and he came back to me and said, Hey, we have this potential company that can help us with marketing strategies. So we talked about it. And we met up with Kimber, and had a conversation and decided that we were very interested. And we moved forward. And so we've been working with them for almost two months now, and have been extremely happy, met up with Kirsten, and this is my first podcast. So something's working, because she's, you know, she's definitely booking us on podcasts and blogs and Instagram.

Jen Amos 5:30

I love that I didn't realize that Kimberly and her team, were also offering marketing services. So I mean, we've worked with Kimber and her team for about a year ago, actually, she had helped my husband and I in our business that us but wealth, bring on interns, and really help us formulate like our internship program. Because I remember when we initially started, we were just looking for salespeople, and they mentioned like, you know, it probably would be better to offer what you're doing as an internship because you're more likely to get people who want to actually learn and actually want to be there as opposed to people that are just looking for a buck. So that was really profound advice from them. So yeah, shout out to Kimber and Kirsten and vert fours, and I'm just happy to hear that they have another happy customer working with them.

Speaker 1 6:14

Yeah, so we were looking at the website and whatnot. And, you know, we thought it looked good. And so after talking with Kimber, they went in, and they took just kind of a cursory look at the website, gave us some thoughts and ideas about how to change the website, how to get more people actually to come to look at it. And we're continuing and progressing very well. So the next step is going to be working with media outlets, and social media and things like that. So yeah, we've been really pleased, and we look forward to the next few months, and hopefully, things are really going to launch and take off.

Jen Amos 6:47

Yeah, absolutely. I also like that you have an affiliate program, I noticed that it's like, oh, for anyone that wants to promote the products. And I think in you reaching out to podcast shows, you might be able to find some, you know, podcast shows that want to affiliate, you know, with you and I was looking I was like, hmm, maybe, like maybe we can talk about this like afterward. But I think it sounds like you all are really doing great job like strategizing. And I'm happy to kind of be at the cusp of like your online marketing presence. And I hope that you know, this show will help amplify your business that much more and, you know, just be a part of your journey.

Speaker 1 7:23

You are right, we are on the cusp. And actually, after this podcast, I'm going to go on to our website, and do a trial affiliate submission or process, because we are so on the cusp, that we're not there yet, but we're hoping within the next day, and we are excited about joining and working with affiliates, because I think they can get the word out. And then they will have a benefit. You know, hopefully they will make sales and then also their customers will benefit because, you know, they can buy some product and the customer will get a discount. And then the affiliate will get payment for any products that they sell. And that's going to be a reoccurring thing too. So if that customer comes back, they can use the affiliate page, and then continue to receive the discount and fill it still gets to get paid.

Jen Amos 8:09

That's beautiful. I think more businesses should do that. More businesses should encourage raving fans, you know, to recommend their services and actually like profit from it, you know, so I think it's awesome that you're doing that. I mean, I can't really think of any salad dressing company that offers a program like that, particularly, you know, like a veteran owned business, offering salad dressing. So I think it's really fascinating. And that's why I felt like I needed to point out I was like, oh, that's the first time I've seen that for this type of business.

Speaker 1 8:38

Hopefully it's up and running by the end of today. So I really am feeling positive about that. Yeah,

Jen Amos 8:43

beautiful. Well, awesome, Stacey. So we're kind of teasing the audience about what we're going to get into. But before we do for people that are getting to know you for the first time, Stacy, why don't you share just a snapshot of your life right now? Particularly what keeps you excited or busy nowadays?

Speaker 1 8:57

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for sharing that. I was watching the about video on your website. And when I saw just a snippet of your family, I was like, Oh, that's a big family. And so am I appreciate you explain like, Oh, we're a blended family. It was like, wow. And so your husband is a veteran? How long ago? Did he you know, retire from the service?

I believe it's been about 10 years.

Okay. Okay. So it's been some time. Okay. I was wondering if it was like something recent and, and were you a part of his journey while he was on active duty?

No, I was not a part of that journey. Okay, but he's now working with the government. And he's deployed again. So we're on a new journey together.

That's awesome. And I appreciate you sharing that, because I met my husband after the service, you know, so he was already out of it, I think probably like, probably a decade also, like he's already been out of it. And, and yet, I still feel like I've inherited, I don't know, just some of the military life, like the way that he acts and how we're always restless and like wanting to move to another place and stuff like that. And you know, combined with my military child background of moving every two to three years, I was like, Oh, I guess we don't ever feel the need to settle anywhere. But I think Virginia Beach is going to be our place for at least three to five years. I'm like crossing fingers that this is like the place that we feel like, is our home together as a couple. Because we're a young couple as well, like we've been together for almost a handful of years now. And so just getting adjusted to Oh, like, Yeah, I'm gonna spend the rest of my life with you. Let's, let's figure out how to settle in on that.

So I'm in a similar situation, but a little bit different. Born and raised in Maryland, I've lived here my entire life. I've done a lot of traveling. But I've just moved from within our state and you coming from California, Maryland's not a very big state. So you're thinking about the possibility that we may move was a little bit shocking. I felt like I you know, I'm a little bit older now. I didn't think I was going to be up and moving. And we may we may not. But that option is definitely out there. But yeah, I'm born and raised in this small state of Maryland. But I've done a lot of traveling.

Yeah, well, it's a small state, but it's a mighty state. We can't deny that it's Maryland, you know, doesn't mean just a cat. I also think that's really cool. How you do what you call a long distance hiking, because in my mind, I thought, Oh, she's just out for a couple hours. I didn't know you'd be out for an entire week. That's amazing. Yeah,

yeah, the longest I've gone is 10 days. And so I've done things like I hiked the Shenandoah from the south end all the way up through the north end. And and it's hard to find people to do that with you. So sometimes, most of the times I would do that by myself. And I haven't done it a lot in the last couple of years. Semper Savage has kept me pretty busy. But I do enjoy a day hike. But yeah, for a little bit of r&r, and kind of just putting down your phone and just really getting back to nature and getting back to kind of thinking about who you are. Yeah, nothing better than out there by yourself hiking.

I wish I was brave enough to do that.

So I applaud you. Because I just think, you know, even if I step out of our house and I get a mosquito bite, I'm like, done, like I get, or like even right now, because we live on the beach. And yet, there's so many critters like in our area. And we've had like mice in the house. It's awful. And literally the other night, I woke up really late, or really early in the morning, however you see it. And there was this mouse in the house. And it was literally like it was trying to like sprint from one place to the other. And I was just like, it just just really freaked me out. It was really cute though, I was trying to get in this mindset of like, okay, it's a cute mouse. And it has its reasons for being here. And

we just got we just gotta make it work. You know, we gotta like, you know, call someone to help us with this. But anyway, I just want to say I applaud you because I even if I walk out on the beach at night with my dog, like even I'm kind of like looking over my shoulder. So I can only imagine what it's like to just be by yourself for 10 days hiking.

Yeah, it's you see a lot of people and I wanted to comment on your mouse. I'm the one that people call to get the mouse or spider. Um, I think being a biologist, you know, I've worked with a lot of different plants and animals and did a lot of my work outside. But I am the one that people would call this a and you know, the only thing I don't like our cockroaches

Yeah, I completely agree with you. Like we have cockroaches on the roof, especially in the summertime. And there was this one time where my husband left. It was bad. He like left a couple of wine out. And the next day there was a cockroach in it. And I was like how did that cockroach get in there to begin with? I mean, it's a wine cup. Like it has like a thin, like a thin you know, you know sticking the handle. It's like how did it make anyway? It's just just cockroaches or anyway like I said I applaud you for just how normal that is for you. Because for me, I can't even imagine, I don't know what I would carry. I don't know what I would bring with me, I would definitely bring my dog with me. I'm pretty sure I would do that. But I think that's an awesome hobby that you have. And even for myself, I'm thinking like, I need to find like a new hobby that gets me to just want to exercise. So anyway, thank you so much for sharing that Stacey. And we've been kind of teasing out this for a while now. So let's just jump into it. And let's talk about a little bit about Semper savage. So I was reading a little background about your company, and why don't you share the story because I think I think it's a beautiful story. Because sempere Savage is veteran owned, it's family owned. And I feel like in our conversations via email back and forth, I just felt this wholeness like this feeling of home from you. Like you just seem so homely is the right word. I'm trying to say yeah. And I think it really reflects on you know, what your business or what it stands for. So why don't you tell us a little bit about a Semper savage?

Sure, well, I'll even start with since we are a blended family, we got married later on in life, during one of our first dates, was over at John's house, and I was cooking a civil, let me come over and I'll cook a meal for you. And so he said, Well, let's have salad. And he says, I make this great salad dressing. And he talked about it before. And so he had not made it yet. So as I was preparing the food, he started to make this salad dressing. And what he would do is he had this plastic container. And then he would start with the olive oil and the vinegar. I bought this. And so he poured it all in. And the one thing that I think I don't really talk about it much, but was that he said, Now you have to shake the hell out of this stuff. And he started shaking it. And then he was making these faces. And he says, he then he stopped. And he said, Oh, I forgot to tell you that the salad dressing doesn't taste good, unless you do the mixing chant. And I thought, What is he talking about? And so then he started to vigorously shake it. Because as you know, when you make your own salad dressing with your olive oil, like you really have to shake it vigorously to emulsify it. So he had this mixing chant. But I didn't hear a thing. He didn't say anything. And so I said to him, Well, I can't hear the mixing. It's a secret, only the dog and I know the chant, right? Well, so I'll go, I'll go fast forward and say I finally did hear the mixing chant. And it was just this, this melody of all these crazy sounds and weren't any words. And on and on funny joke about I want to hear the mixing chant, I want to hear the mixing champ. So we that he first made it then for me. But when we went to family functions, or we would go out to picnics, people would say, you know, like, what are we bringing, I have this macaroni and cheese dish that I like, and people like me to bring that. But then people started saying, you know, John can bring the salad John can bring salad dressing. So it started happening that where we would just be bring it everywhere. And people wouldn't say to him, but you should mark it this, you should put this in a bottle. And so and so we talked a little bit about that every once in a while. And then said the fall that you were talking about was when my one daughter was the oldest daughter. She was going to school. And she was living off campus. But she was going to the same school where I teach, so I would see her quite often. So she sent me a text and she said, Mom, can you ask John if he would make some salad dressing? And can you bring it up to me? She said, I ran out. I tried to make my own and it tastes like ass is on attack. This is serious, right? Like, oh, so I said, Hey, can you make some salad dressing? And I'll bring it up for Rachel. He said, Sure. So we started this routine of I would collect the empty container. I would give her the container full full of salad dressing. And we did that all fall. And so then, before winter, before Christmas, she came to me and she said, Mom, I have this great idea for Christmas present for John. And we've done a lot of make your own Christmas presents, I really find that they they're it's fun to do. They're fun to give. And it's really personable. So she said I'm going to get a case of mason jars. And I'm going to get a picture of John's face on it. And the picture. It's it's on a lot of social media. And it's this picture where he has this armor on. He's making a warrior face we were at the renaissance fair. And so she puts the picture on and it says John Curry's world famous salad dressing. She put this label on all these bottles, and she wrapped it up and gave it to him for Christmas and said Merry Christmas. And inside was a note that said Please fill this with salad dressing. He was really tickled. You opened it up and he pulled out the jar. We still actually have some of the jars leftover. And afterwards we talked about it and said you know What we really need to start thinking about how we can do this. That's really kind of how the idea started.

That's awesome. I think it definitely is an art to make salad dressing. Like I said, I'm just super basic about it, just do, you know, extra virgin olive oil and a squeeze of lemon and pepper, and like sea salt, or whatever salt I have available, like Himalayan salt or something. And so that's usually like, my go to and your salad dressings are really fun to look at. First of all, they're just there's so much going on in them. And then I liked the whole activity of shaking it, or adding it to my salad. So I think that's really awesome. So let's talk a little bit about why Semper Savage has started. Now I know for myself, part of why I don't like to buy salad dressings is because I just don't know what's in them. And it sounds like that's something that you and your family wanted to tackle.

Yeah. So we really found out that the salad dressing industry has a huge problem. And the problem has been going on so long, that most of us are accustomed to this watered down flavor that they've added salt and sugar and all these other natural flavors added. And so again, just like you said, John has been making his own salad dressing for like 20 years. And he used to work at a pizzeria when he was younger. And then he found the salad dressing that he really liked. And he tried to emulate that. So he spent a lot of years trying to trying to get that exact tastes that he wanted. And so when we were looking at, you know, thinking about doing this, this salad dressing company, we spent first it was minutes than it was hours. And now I think it's probably days at the grocery store, standing in the salad dressing aisle looking at the back of these dressings. And what we find is that they might say extra virgin olive oil, but then there's a blend, so if it has extra virgin olive oil, there's a blend and you don't know if it's 20% olive oil and then 80 percents corn oil. There's a lot of other oils like safflower and other oil blends, they watered them down, they add salt, they add sugar, they add all these other preservatives. And so the more we looked at it, we said look, we want a salad dressing, that you can get those ingredients off of your counter off of your cupboard and pour them in and you can read and you can understand all the ingredients. And the best part I think about our product is that you don't have to make it we've done the work for you. And it's in a bottle, the only thing you do have to do is shake it up. You can't just take it off the out of the refrigerator and pour it because you have to make sure that that oil and that vinegar is mixed together.

Right. Otherwise you get too much of something or when want

to boil too much. The other thing I want to say is that our dressings are robust. So the olive oil if you know what that olive oil, I like it, but it's a strong taste. And then we also add vinegar and we don't water it down. So the vinegar adds taste vinegary. But again, the other thing I do want to say is because there isn't any water, you don't have to use as much. Because when you are using something with water in it, that water is going to drop down out and end up in the bottom of your container. Whether it's your salad or whether it's a container that you're marinating in. With this product, the olive oil sticks to all of your products and within the olive oil, especially because you shake it up all the other herbs and spices in the garlic so you really can measure something out and you don't need as much to coat your to coat your salad. I always like pour it on and then I just turn it turn it turn it with my fork to mix it up.

Yeah, the vinegar at one is my favorite just because I'm a big vinegar person. It's just like, and you could really taste it. So it's it's amazing. And I appreciate you sharing, you know that information. And yeah, it is quite interesting because we want to encourage people to you know, eat more salads in general, but I feel like dressings kind of defeat the purpose of why you're eating a salad to begin with. So it's really awesome that you know, you and your family and your company is really changing the way that salad dressing is being made.

We are trying so let me just tell you something else. So last night, right now since John is deployed I'm eating for one are cooking for one, definitely for one but cooking. And so I pulled out three scallops, so you know just the larger size scallops and I marinated them with some savage balsamic and I had the marinating for probably about four hours. And I grilled those with just with the marinate on it. And then I also added I was turned on to cauliflower. Rice and seeing it on Facebook people have been hearing all this delicious stuff. And I like cauliflower, but I never raised it up. Right I need a little rice medley and I used asparagus and spinach asparagus. And then I added the cauliflower rice to it and just did a little salt like a stir fry. And I added another tablespoon of that balsamic in there as well. So it is great as a salad dressing but there's so many ways to use it as a marinade for meat. It's awesome on salmon as a marinade for vegetables, whether you grill them or you saute them or roast them My one daughter she roast vegetables with it. But then there's all kinds of other ways you can drizzle it over the balsamic especially over the like roma tomatoes, mozzarella cheese with a little drizzle of balsamic. So there's a lot of ways that you can use our products.

Do you have a cookbook? Just curious if that if that's like in the works, because it sounds like there's so much you can do with your products.

It is definitely in the works. I have a Google doc where I've typed up some of the things. And so that's definitely in the works. And then also what I really love to see are people that are using our products, and then they send me pictures and they say you know I use I made crock pot chicken and potatoes with the savage Centurion. And so I'm like, send me your recipe. Because I think that there's so many different ways and people are so creative to think about how they like to use a dressing or marinade or sauce. And then the others I will tell you this my my brother in law called us up one day, John's from Georgia and said, I'm going to tell you what savage Cinterion is good for. It's great as a mopping sauce or he calls it a mop and sauce. He was eating pizza. And then the outer part the crust of the pizza. A lot of times, some of these pizza companies will sell you the garlic butter to dip your costume. Yep. Yeah, he thought that dipping the crust in the savage Centurion was the best. I haven't tried that. Yeah, ha

i Hey, yeah, that's it. That's a good thought. Because I mean, at least when my husband gets pizza, you know, lately, I just I don't always eat the crust. And so that's a good idea. Right?

I know. And so I think of that my brother in law did and you know, we need to add that to our recipe because people that do like crust, and you get the garlic butter, which tastes delicious, right? But it's a lottery and is it real butter? I don't know. And so our savage Centurion, mobbing sauce would be a really good way to enjoy bread maybe breadsticks with a healthy a bit of extra virgin olive oil, and no extra added column crappy oils. None of those other oils that you see on the back of the salad dressings and it tastes good.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, I always feel like if I do have a salad dressing from the store, I just, I don't know, I get like, full faster, but I also feel a little dissatisfied. And I think it's because of all of that extra added ingredients that like it makes me almost feel like I didn't eat a salad. You know, to begin with? And yeah, that's why I've always steered away from salad dressings from the stores. And so, you know, like, I feel like with your dressing when I the times I've tried it already, it just feels like it's it's like I feel like it almost what's the word? It's kind of like, it brings out the best of the salad. Like, I feel like I'm actually eating my salad, you know? And so yeah, no, I think I think it's interesting. And I really encourage people to I mean, one, you know, look at the nutrition facts or the ingredients of the salad dressings in the stores and be mindful of those, you know, bad ingredients, you know, and then to like, consider an alternative.

Exactly, no, I think you're 100% Right. Like I said, we have spent a lot of time looking at the back of salad dressings, and also at the marinade because the same thing goes for men and aids they can things that you can't even pronounce. And I think also our tastebuds, get accustomed to that sugary tastes. So we want so we think that an Italian dressing is supposed to taste watery, and sugary, but really it's not. It's supposed to be bold, robust, Savage, and our savage Centurion, Italian dressing is that we also have a few more I'm in the room in the process of really perfecting a few more recipes, and we hope to have them on the market and we're hoping by next year we're really trying to create meaningful, realistic goals. And so hopefully by this time next year, we can have a couple more products. I will give a teaser because being from Maryland we eat a lot of seafood had a lot of crabs. And we use apple cider vinegar before people really were using apple cider vinegar. You know, we've been using it. I've been using it all my life. So we have a few more on the horizon. So I'm excited to hopefully share them next year,

ya know, for sure. And we'll have to touch base with you again next year. Should the show be running? So which that's my plan.

I love the name Semper savage. We've been mentioning it like over and over throughout the show. And I'm curious to know, where did that name come from? Because I know for any business to come forward with a name, you have to put a lot of thought into it, because that's how you're going to be representing yourself and your brand and everything. So how did Semper savage come about?

So it wasn't easy. We were sitting down starting to think about different names for the company. And we created a list actually, John really did most of that he had this vision. And so there was this list going back to his family farm, things that he had experienced over his life. And so we came back to Semper savage so that Sempra first word Semper, John is a Marine Corps veteran. And so Semper comes from Semper Fidelis. And then savage actually was the callsign of the US Marine Corps attack squadron H, MLA, the red dogs. And they were a during service in Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005. So he really felt like that was a personal fit of the name for him. And so we also had to create a logo, and we actually created one logo, and we have a new logo, so we had to change it. And so as your company is starting up, there's a lot of growing pains. With growing pains, there's a lot of things that you learn. And so we actually have a new logo that we had to

recreate. Hmm, yeah, no, definitely, I think that's what I enjoy the most about talking to small businesses. And being a small business owner, myself, is just like that, you have to constantly evolve and change and your brand and logo and design is usually reflects that. So that's beautiful, in deep, profound, you know, just meaning behind the name. And I appreciate you taking the time to share that. The last question I have for you, Stacey is how's it like working with your husband? You know, like, have you worked with him before? Before? He said, Hey, you should do this, like, how's it been, like working with him and Semper savage?

So to answer the first one, no, I have not really worked with him before. I mean, things like moving things around or something like that, but but I have not worked with him before. And so first off, he has a clear vision. He has a clear vision of his what how he wanted that salad dressing to taste the original savages Centurion. And so we work well together, because then I have all these other ideas. So I'm bringing in these ideas like popcorn popping in the microwave. So his perfected this savage Centurion. And I said, Well, how about balsalmic? How about Apple Cider? You know, we were from Maryland, we have to have apple cider. So I'm bringing in a lot of these other ideas. I also think that being in the kitchen, and I love to grill, so John loves salad. He is a salad dressing fanatic, right. I like salad. But I like grilling my veggies and meat outside on the grill. And just like I said, my bio, I like to be outside in all kinds of weather, except for extreme heat and humidity, I'll do it, but I don't hold. I actually love the cold, and I don't mind the rain. So I'm outside in January in the snow grilling. I'm outside in April when it's raining, and I'm loving to grow. So I bring into the company, different perspectives on the ways that we could use this, this product. So he definitely has a vision. And he has a lot of connections being veteran owned. So I think we complement each other, with just being in very different places with kind of our thoughts and ideas. They don't conflict with how to run the company, but just when you have these other ideas that we can pull together. So it's like two people working not one, not one person with two manpower. Right, right, but two different people working. And no, we do share the same vision of supporting our veterans, our military, our first responders. We also support the mission for people that want to eat healthy, no matter who people are, that they will eat something healthy. That's taste good. And then also my final thing is I call it kiss. Keep it simple Stacy, like simple recipes, too. So a lot of the things I do I have like marinate the meat and then some veggies with the balsamic or the Centurion but I try to keep things simple. Yeah, shared that At same, and also our family too. I mean, we really value family when John comes back for some r&r, we spend most of our time, up and down the East Coast, visiting family and then working on some for savage. So I think in working together that wow, he definitely has that focus on what he wants, the mission of the product and the look and the feel that we also share. running the company.

Yeah, it's beautiful. It's a very collaborative effort. And I have to applaud all couples that work together, because I think about the challenges that even my husband and I go through working together and doing everything together. And I mean, at least with John, he's deployed, so you get that that nice distance away from him. I don't know if you prefer it or not. But I'm just thinking it would be nice to have space away from him every now and then, or my husband, every now and then I say that jokingly, I love him. But now it's beautiful. And I love how collaborative you all are, and how your family focused and just your support for military and first responders and everything. So I want to thank you personally, Stacy for being a part of that and for you know what you do with your company and with John, and I appreciate you taking the time to speak with me today. And also for your salad dressings. I've been enjoying both of them so far. And I'm gonna have to try the marinating meat as well because we have a lot of, we have like just frozen steaks sitting in the freezer, we've been meaning to do something with it. I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna marinate it with a separate savage. So I just want to thank you so much for all of that for you today and for giving your time with us today. For people that want to learn more about Semper savage and want to contact you and learn more about your dressings. How can they do that?

Great. So go to www dot sempere savage.com. You can also find us on social media. We are on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and I think Tik Tok as well. That's John's been working on that one. There you go. All those are under sempere savage and we would love to hear from you. We would love for you to try our products. And then once you do, we would love to hear reviews about how you like the product and definitely the recipes that you used.

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