In this podcast, John Riggi, highly decorated veteran of the FBI and Senior Advisor for Cybersecurity and Risk at the American Hospital Association talks to two leading experts and colleagues in the field of cybersecurity from the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency (CISA) / U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Dr. L. Reuven Pasternak, Interim Senior Advisor and Joshua Corman, Chief Strategist. Reuven and Joshua will discuss a CISA Insights report “Provide Medical Care is in Critical Condition: Analysis and Stakeholder Decision Support to Minimize Further Harm” a groundbreaking qualitative and quantitative analysis, which models and measures hospital strain associated with excess deaths, as well as the effect of ransomware and the impact such a strain can have on a hospital and region, further contributing to excess deaths. This report tends to corroborate what to many is intuitive - ransomware attacks on hospitals may disrupt care delivery, risk patient safety and are threat to life crimes.