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00:27 – Six figures and still unhappy
03:09 – The day I quit
10:45 – The Bloomberg article
17:15 – Starting over from scratch
19:42 – Five years later
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And, um, I'm gonna be resigning from
ExxonMobil That was me quitting my
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:six-figure data science job almost
five years ago to do something
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:ridiculously stupid, and it was almost
the worst decision I ever made in my
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:entire life, and somehow it's ended
up being the best thing I ever did.
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:Today, I'll tell you the full story
that I've waited to tell five years
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:on exactly what happened, why I did
it, and was it worth it in the end.
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:I started my career as a chemical lab
technician, and I absolutely hated my job.
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:I learned about data science
and got immediately hooked.
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:I was like, "Wow, this is
the coolest thing ever.
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:I wanna become a data scientist."
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:And I worked really hard to learn all
the stuff I needed to learn to become
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:a data scientist, and I ultimately
landed this six-figure job at
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:ExxonMobil, which utilized my chemistry
background to be a data scientist.
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:I moved from Utah to Texas
to work at their headquarters
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:there, and it was a great job.
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:It was awesome.
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:I got paid over six figures.
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:I got a really cushy desk job.
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:I literally never worked
over 40 hours a week.
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:Um, I liked my coworkers.
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:I liked the campus that we were on.
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:Everything was really great, and I
had my dream data scientist life.
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:And that's how everything was until
it wasn't, and everything went wrong,
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:and I was absolutely miserable.
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:Although everything on the outside
looked amazing, and it was, I really
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:wasn't fulfilled at my job for a couple
different reasons, but basically, I
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:thought I was a really good contributor.
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:I thought I had really good ideas.
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:I thought I was bringing a lot to the
table, and, uh, not a lot of that was
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:getting reflected at the company, and
I grew really tired and sick of it.
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:For example, earlier, I had built an app
that they, not me, had deemed worth over
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:a billion dollars, and yes, that's B
with a billion dollars, and I don't feel
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:like I was getting the ownership or the
credit that I did on this entire project.
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:I had also started to post a lot
on LinkedIn and become kind of a
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:thought leader in terms of data
analytics plus oil and gas, and I...
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:My posts started getting
recognized by people at Exxon.
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:So for example, a VP of Exxon saw one
of my posts, reached out to me, and
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:was like, "Hey, I wanna talk to you
about data analytics at ExxonMobil."
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:And I said, "Great.
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:My manager and I would love to do
that with you," because keep in
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:mind, I'm an individual contributor.
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:I'm not a manager.
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:I'm a nobody.
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:And the VP says, "No, I don't
want you to bring your manager.
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:I just want you to come."
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:And I said, "Okay."
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:And so I told my manager, I'm like,
"Hey, this VP wants to talk to me.
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:I'm gonna go talk to him," and
my manager wouldn't let me.
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:And I was...
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:felt like I was being trapped, basically,
in my role, and that got really
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:unfulfilling in this, like, corporate
bureaucracy that I really just got
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:sick of, and I knew I was miserable
because I started tracking how happy
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:I was to walk in the door every day.
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:And instead of, you know, sevens and
eights on how happy I was, it was,
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:like, twos and threes, and at that
point, I knew something had to change.
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:But to what, I didn't really know.
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:I was always interested
in being an entrepreneur.
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:I had tried to start some businesses
in high school and college, and none
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:of them had worked out whatsoever,
but I was always fascinated by, you
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:know, owning your own business and
trying to do something on your own.
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:But I'm, like, extremely risk adverse.
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:I'm pretty cautious, and starting
my own business seemed way too much
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:of a risk for, for me to pursue.
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:And honestly, I would have never
have pursued it had it not been
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:for my loving and supportive wife
really encouraging me to try it out.
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:She knew how much it meant to me.
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:She thought I could do it, and she
believed in me more than I believed in
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:myself, and so with her confidence, I- I
went ahead and I did this: Hey, what's up?
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:And, um, I'm gonna be
resigning from ExxonMobil.
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:Um, it's a super hard decision.
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:Um, I just think I, I see
myself going in, in different
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:directions than, than the company
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:Um, yeah, it pretty much has.
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:Okay, sounds good.
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:Thanks.
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:Bye
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:I did it.
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:Oh my gosh, that was so...
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:Crazy.
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:And you might have sensed a little
bit of emotion at the end of that
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:last clip, and it's because I had
just done something that terrified me.
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:I was really scared.
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:I didn't know what I was doing.
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:I didn't know how I was going
to bring income to my family.
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:I didn't know if this was gonna work.
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:Heck, every indicator of me being
an entrepreneur previously proved
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:that this wasn't going to work.
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:I had no track record, no idea how
to actually run a business, and
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:you can hear a little bit of my
thoughts from this journal entry of
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:my last day driving home from work.
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:I'm just grateful beyond belief
to my Heavenly Father for, for
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:giving me that experience, um,
and giving me my next experience.
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:I don't know much about
my next experience.
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:It's, it's new, and it's scary,
and it's, you know, not something
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:I've truly done before, and there's
a huge risk that I'm taking.
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:Um, but definitely leaving your corporate
job to set out on your own is huge, and I
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:thank God for giving me this opportunity.
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:I really feel lucky and almost
unworthy of this experience Um, but
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:instead of feeling unworthy, I'm
just gonna feel grateful and lucky.
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:And yeah, we'll see what
the next six months bring.
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:Today is January 20th, 2020.
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:I'll see you in a year or six months.
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:The next six months were some of the
craziest months of my entire life,
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:and I was scared out of my mind.
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:I was scared to be doing
this whole business thing.
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:I didn't know what I was doing.
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:Um, but I did it, and I did it
scared, despite being scared.
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:So basically, I was doing consulting
work and freelance work, where basically
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:companies would reach out to me for d-
doing different data projects, and I
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:would do the data projects for them.
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:So I worked for a cybersecurity
company analyzing their
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:data, and it was lots of fun.
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:I got to analyze data, kind of be on
my own terms, and be a little bit more
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:useful and helpful to these companies
than I was previously at my last job.
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:And then one day, a LinkedIn influencer,
Kate Strachnyi, reached out to me,
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:and she's like, "Hey, I'm looking for
someone to make these data visualization
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:courses," and I love data visualization.
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:And I was like, "Sure, I'll be
the author of those courses."
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:So I made a Python data visualization
course and an R data visualization course.
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:And at one point, she offhandedly said,
"Yeah, well, maybe someday you'll have
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:your own academy, your own data academy,
and you could do more courses like this."
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:And I was like, "Who, me?
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:I don't think that's the case."
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:But as my time went on with
freelancing and consulting, I
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:actually realized I love to teach.
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:I reflected back on what I did at Exxon
and what I actually really enjoyed
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:there, and I actually led basically a
data nerd club at Exxon, and I loved it.
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:I loved teaching them.
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:I loved learning from other people.
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:I loved, you know, just helping
people do data projects.
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:And I realized, man, I love this.
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:This is something I actually wanna pursue.
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:And I thought, well, I pivoted
from being a chemical lab
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:technician to a data scientist.
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:What if I made a course all about
pivoting your career into data science?
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:I think that would be really
interesting, and there's not a whole
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:lot like this on the market right now.
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:And for the other 20 hours a week, I'd
work on my education product, this course
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:I was building that I was gonna call
Data Career Jumpstart because it was all
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:about jump-starting your data career.
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:And after working on that course
for about four months, I launched
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:it on August 18th of 2021.
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:And I was really nervous 'cause
I had literally just spent three
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:months of my life making this
course, and I made $0 from it so far.
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:So I was very nervous because I
had to make that money up, because
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:otherwise I just wasted all this time.
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:And I was like, "I don't
know if anyone's gonna join.
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:I don't know if I- this is worth it.
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:I don't know if I did
the right thing or not."
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:And looking back on it, I would change
a lot of things that I did differently.
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:But the course launch came
along, and, uh, it went okay.
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:It was a little bit worse than
I expected, but not terribly.
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:I was, like, kind of in the middle of
like, "Okay, do I spend more time on
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:this, or do I go back to contracting?"
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:And I, I ended up picking up a few
more contracting, uh, agreements
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:because I was like, "I don't know
if this course thing, uh, is for me.
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:I don't know if I'm good at it.
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:I don't know if, uh, you
know, how this program is.
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:Let's just see these first
batch of students, how they
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:do, and we'll go from there."
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:Now, this program was designed
around landing your first data
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:job, pivoting into data science
at the time, by building projects.
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:I've always been such a big
believer in building projects.
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:Um, and at the time, you know,
now I have the famous SPN method.
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:At the time it was the PPP method,
the 3P method, uh, which was to build
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:personal projects on your portfolio.
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:And the idea was that in this
boot camp you'd come to, we'd
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:build personal projects that
we'd put them on a portfolio.
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:What made them personal projects?
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:It was all using your data.
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:So, like, for instance, we'd use your
Spotify listening music data, your
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:Apple Watch or Fitbit fitness data, um,
your screen time data from your phone.
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:And we built projects in Google Studio, in
Python, in R, all with your personal data.
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:And of course, I still had all of
the resume and the networking, the
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:cold messaging, the actual, like, how
do you talk to hiring managers and
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:recruiters aspect of the SPN method now.
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:But I just didn't call it
the SPN method back then.
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:I was also doing weekly office hours
with our students and meeting with them
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:one-on-one to make sure that they got
all the help that they possibly needed.
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:Now, in that first batch of students,
some of them did land jobs, but many
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:of them really struggled to land jobs.
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:And when I looked back at, like, who had
success versus who didn't have success,
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:I learned something really important.
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:Number one, although doing personal
projects was really cool, I think it held
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:a lot of students back for two reasons.
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:One, using your personal data is often
hard to collect Especially if you
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:haven't been trying to do it for months.
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:Like, if you're not collecting
your screen time data, there's
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:not, like, a magical button on
your iPhone that just exports it.
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:You have to kind of be thinking about
it, how to get this data out as you go.
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:Getting your Spotify data
required using an API and also
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:for you to be using Spotify.
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:Maybe you don't have a Fitbit or
maybe you don't have an Apple Watch,
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:so some of that analysis was hard.
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:Personal data is really cool, but
you have to be really deliberate on
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:collecting it over a long period of
time to get any meaningful analysis.
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:And number two, although I really
believe that personal projects are
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:great, I figured that doing more
industry-focused projects would be better.
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:Because although analyzing your own
screen time data is cool, and, like,
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:obviously that shows that you can gather,
clean, analyze, and visualize data, and
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:that can be applied to any industry,
doing, like, more industry-specific data
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:would perhaps make a better portfolio
project for a more generic student.
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:The second thing I learned when I
looked at who had actually landed jobs
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:is the people who landed jobs weren't
landing data science jobs like I landed.
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:They were landing a little bit
lower-position jobs, like data analyst
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:or business intelligence engineer.
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:And I realized that teaching people to
pivot from, you know, a non-technical
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:space into a data scientist role was
way too big of a jump, especially
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:to do that in less than six months.
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:It made a lot more sense to do a
smaller jump of from whatever role
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:that they were in to a data analyst
role, and then eventually from a
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:data analyst to a data scientist, you
know, a year or two down the road.
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:And so I had a big problem.
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:I had built out all this curriculum
where I was teaching people to go from,
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:you know, a chemical lab technician or
whatever non-technical, non-data role
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:that you were in to a data scientist
role by building personal projects.
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:And that method didn't really 100% work
because personal projects were hard
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:to make, and the jump from wherever
you're at to data scientist was too big.
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:Around this same time, I had a really
interesting professional/personal, I
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:don't wanna call it a crisis, I'll just
call it an event that went on in my
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:life that, uh, was pretty traumatizing.
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:And this event is basically the
reason I haven't talked about
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:this for five-plus years now.
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:I didn't really feel
comfortable talking about it.
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:And now I feel like it's been long
enough in the past that hopefully
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:no one else cares and everyone
else has forgotten about me at
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:Exxon and it's all in the past.
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:But I'm fingers crossed on that.
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:And to be honest, I don't even
remember exactly how it started.
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:My guess, if I had to remember
back, is when I left Exxon, I made a
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:LinkedIn post in front of the famous
ExxonMobil cube, you know, announcing
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:my departure from the company.
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:And I guess a journalist must have
seen that picture and reached out to
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:me on LinkedIn wanting to interview
me for a story or something about,
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:you know, leaving ExxonMobil.
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:And in my head I was
just like, "Okay, sure.
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:Whatever.
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:I don't...
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:I go- I'm happy to talk about
leaving Exxon, no problem.
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:Not a big deal," right?
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:But I really wasn't paying attention
to who the journalist was or who they
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:worked for or what they were doing.
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:I was...
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:It was all just kind of on the side
for me and I was like, "Hey, maybe some
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:exposure would be good for business."
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:And honestly, I pretty much forgot
about it because it was just, like,
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:a one-time interview, and then they
sent a photographer to my house.
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:They're like, "We might use
photos, we might not," right?
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:And then a few months go by, I forget
about it, and then I, uh, basically get
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:a magazine with Elon Musk on the cover.
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:And look, I'm in the freaking-
Bloomberg Businessweek magazine.
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:So they published this huge article
about people who were leaving Exxon,
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:and I was one of the only named sources.
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:In fact, I was one out of two
named sources in the article.
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:And like I said, I didn't
really know what I was doing.
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:I was young.
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:I was just kind of doing this
as a side piece, and I was like,
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:"Oh, maybe some extra exposure."
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:And that article went extremely viral.
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:It was posted on Bloomberg and
Reuters and Yahoo, and picked up
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:by dozens of different outlets and
posted all over the internet with
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:my happy face on the front page.
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:And this kind of opened a can of worms
that I wish had never been opened before.
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:But basically, on a corporate
forum called The Layoff, people
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:started posting about this article
and specifically posting about me.
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:Now, this forum is completely
anonymous, and so it's kind of like
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:Reddit, where people can say whatever
they want with no accountability,
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:responsibility, or reliability
on if it's actually true or not.
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:So in one of these forums, the
article got posted, and basically
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:people started commenting.
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:I'll go ahead and read some of
the comments that people left.
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:All right, number one, "Avery Smith
is a worthless data scientist."
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:Hmm, great.
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:Number two, "For all the fact-checkers
out there, Avery didn't leave.
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:He got pipped."
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:I was in his group.
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:He continued to miss deadlines for
projects and barely logged in during
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:the work from home era last year.
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:So that's 100% false, and if
this person was in my group,
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:you know better than that.
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:If you don't know what PIP means, I used
to think it was an ExxonMobil only term,
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:but I've seen other people use it as well.
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:It stands for performance
improvement plan.
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:It basically means you weren't doing
good as an employee, and they warned
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:you by PIPping you, by basically saying,
"Hey, you need to get improved quickly.
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:Otherwise, we're gonna let you go."
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:And then they let you go.
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:Now, there were layoffs at ExxonMobil
happening around this time.
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:In fact, they told us in July that
layoffs would be happening in December.
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:And truth be told, I kind of did wanna
get laid off because then I'd get a
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:three-month severance package of pay.
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:And I already knew that I wanted
to quit my job, so yeah, sure,
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:I would've loved to get PIP'd.
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:I did every project I was asked
to do, and I did a good job, but I
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:wasn't gonna be mad if I got laid off.
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:I unfortunately was not laid off, and
I had to quit in January and only get
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:two weeks vacation paid out instead
of the three-month severance plan.
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:Comment number three.
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:"Wow, that one pump chump Smith
left to start his own company.
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:Must be one of BK's hot shots."
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:I don't even know what
that means, but thank you?
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:That's offensive.
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:Comment number four.
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:"No telling how inflated Avery Smith will
get seeing himself featured in an article.
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:Cringe."
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:Yeah, to be honest, that
was probably the case.
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:I was probably pretty stoked to be,
like, the front page of Yahoo for a day.
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:I wish I wouldn't have done
it, to be honest, so...
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:Okay, that of itself,
not really a big deal.
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:I- when I chose to do content and
put my life on the internet, I knew
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:these types of comments would come.
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:However, things continued to get worse.
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:A few days later on the same
forum, this post was left here.
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:"What happened in Energy 3 today?"
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:Energy 3 is one of the buildings
on the campus at ExxonMobil.
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:"Got a stand down meeting
invitation but suddenly canceled.
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:Rumor said something obnoxious happened."
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:So basically this means, like, the
campus was put on emergency mode where
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:"A former employee, he was mentioned
in some article that was posted on here
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:last week," that's me, "for creating
a data science company while working
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:at Exxon last year, came back onto
campus and caused a scene in E3."
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:"I suppose the attention the article got
caused ExxonMobil lawyers to look into it.
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:And then there was a bunch of comments
that I started my company on ExxonMobil
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:time with ExxonMobil computers, and
I should be stripped of my company.
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:And that wasn't true at all, but I just
didn't like the rumors being spread
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:about that because you just never
know in corporate world what people
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:will say and what companies will do.
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:'I suppose the attention the article
got caused ExxonMobil lawyers to look
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:into it, and they seized ownership
of his company since it's technically
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:company property as it was created during
ExxonMobil time on an ExxonMobil computer.
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:And today he came back
to express his rage.
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:Not sure what it accomplished though.
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:Long story short, if you're going
to create another company during
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:ExxonMobil time on an ExxonMobil
computer, don't advertise it.'"
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:And the comments went on in that forum to
basically insinuate that I, like, jumped
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:in an Uber and snuck onto campus 'cause
the campus there is super high security.
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:You basically can't get in the
campus, and then you can't get in
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:any door, and then you can't get
up any elevator without, like, two
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:different keys basically to get in.
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:That I somehow snuck through all of
that and started throwing papers all
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:over the place and trashing the office
because I was mad at ExxonMobil.
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:Now, obviously, and I shouldn't even
have to say this, none of that is true.
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:And honestly, it felt
like a smear campaign.
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:It felt like someone was out to get me.
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:And I honestly just got kinda scared
because I just didn't like people
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:talking about me in untruthful ways.
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:So this is where my risky bet
of quitting my job and starting
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:my business has gotten me.
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:In a boot camp that half works,
and this whole newspaper written
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:about me and everyone writing
mean things about me online.
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:Was it worth it?
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:At this point, I didn't think it was.
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:My wife and I had also decided at this
point that we wanted to have kids and
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:bring in some babies into the world,
and, uh, I was in a position where
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:it didn't feel like I was ready to
add the extra responsibility into
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:my life because look at my business.
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:It's not doing as well
as I hope it would do.
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:And so truth be told, I honestly
felt like giving up some days.
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:I wanted to go back to
the corporate world.
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:I wanted to stop doing the boot camp.
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:I wanted to stop doing consulting and
just do a normal job because that was
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:normal and boring, and no one would get
mad at me, and, uh, it would be easier.
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:And honestly, thanks to God and some
other mentors, I did not give up,
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:and I redid the entire Bootcamp.
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:From beginning to end, I redid everything.
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:Now, the core concepts of projects
and networking and learning the
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:skills were, were still there.
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:In fact, that was the whole basis of it.
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:I sat down on a piece of paper
and pen for days trying to come
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:up with the method name, and
eventually landed on the SBN Method.
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:Learn the skills, build the project,
and do the networking, and that is the
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:formula to landing your first data job.
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:I redid the entire curriculum, redid
all of the projects from scratch,
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:focusing on industry projects, not
personal projects, and put greater
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:emphasis on skills that were actually
being used by the general practitioners
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:of data analysts, not data scientists.
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:I no longer was trying to help
people go from, you know, whatever
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:job they had to whatever data job.
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:Specifically, I wanted to help
people land data analyst jobs,
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:because those are the people in
my first bootcamp who had success.
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module would have a skill, and each
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of:
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they've been unbelievable.
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accelerator program, and we've helped so
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and my new babies into my family's
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out of helping people get out of
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I felt at my chemical lab technician,
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they truly and actually enjoyed.
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my LDS mission called me one day.
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teacher, and she said, "Avery,
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become a data analyst.
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me and left me this voicemail.
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just got a phone call from Chase.
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like to move forward with the hiring
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official offers in probably three days.
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so excited I can't even, like,
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has made me extremely, extremely
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Lord has blessed my life with.
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you thank you so much, and I am
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and I'll message you and fill you
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last five years, and it's 100%
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:The opportunity I've had to help people
shape their lives and shape their careers
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and I'm really grateful and humbled
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:So that big risk, that stupid
decision, that reason why I quit my
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it, and I've got a good feeling
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:So if you wanna experience the next
five years of this data journey,
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:please hit Subscribe, and I'll
see you guys in the next episode.