I talk with Magalie René about rebuilding her business after getting diagnosed with hyperthyroidism. I loved this conversation because of the fact that I have hypothyroidism. We're dealing with opposite thyroid issues, but so much of what she's going through landed for me.

Magalie ended up in the ER three times with racing heart and anxiety attacks before she finally asked for a thyroid panel herself. Once she got the diagnosis, she had to completely restructure how she runs her business—because hyperthyroidism puts your body on overdrive, and she was already in hustle mode. Something had to give.

We get into what hyperthyroidism symptoms actually feel like, why 80% of people with autoimmune disease are women, and this connection between poor boundaries and autoimmune issues that honestly blew my mind. Magalie also talks about becoming "unavailable for bullshit" in both her personal life and work, which is something I'm also working on. I hope you get as much out of our conversation as I did.

Key Takeaways

• Your body is trying to tell you something—listen to it
• Weight loss, constant productivity, and high energy can be signs your body is in crisis, not thriving
• Poor boundaries may be at the root of autoimmune issues (80% of sufferers are women)
• Being "unavailable for bullshit" is self-care, not mean
• Slowing down creates space for better ideas and easier paths to your goals
• The middle might be the new normal—and that's the upgraded version
• You're tired because your body is tired; the thought follows the feeling

Timestamps

• [00:02:00] Introduction to Magalie and the messy middle
• [00:05:00] Diagnosis with hyperthyroidism and rebuilding her business
• [00:06:00] What hyperthyroidism actually does to your body
• [00:07:00] Why 80% of people with autoimmune issues are women
• [00:11:00] Moving too fast means missing out on creativity and aligned ideas
• [00:14:00] The autoimmune-boundary connection that changed everything
• [00:16:00] "I'm unavailable for bullshit now"
• [00:17:00] Racing heart, anxiety attacks, and the journey to diagnosis
• [00:22:00] Restructuring the backend of her business for flow
• [00:26:00] Advice: Listen to your body and love your life

Magalie's Advice

"Listen to your body and love your life. If there's something you don't love about your life right now, shift it. Shift it now. Work on shifting it now because your body eventually will respond to that."

Connect with Magalie

• Instagram: @magalierene
• magalierene.com
• Renaissance Woman Virtual Retreat: "Divorce to Destiny" – October 26-27, 2025
• Quantum Reinvention, the 4 stages to level up fast

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Welcome to Sharing the Middle, where we share the stories

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of the messy middles of our life.

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figuring out a custom piece of code for

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medal, I was throwing my arms

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Anyway.

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Today I'm talking to Mag Lee Renee.

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She is a lovely, lovely person

who I have a really interesting

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conversation with where we have both

have, chronic ill illness with our

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thyroid, but the opposite diagnosis.

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So I'm hyper and she's hyper, and it's

just for me was very interesting to

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be able to see the contrast and how.

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Contrast and I mean how

similar these things are.

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if you go to lacey shares.com,

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designing with my virtual art that are.

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a friendly reminder for someone who is

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watching you drink your coffee or tea.

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and honestly, I just get such a kick

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outta making them that I hope other

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Anyway, let's jump into our

conversation with Magley, and you

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will adore her as much as I do.

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Let's jump right in.

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Welcome to sharing the Middle.

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I'm here today with Magley Renee.

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I am so excited.

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She is one of the superstars who

rescheduled with me, and as listeners

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of this podcast know, they're always

my favorite because life is chaos

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and we're trying to make it work, and

she's been making it work with me.

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So welcome.

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Hello.

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Magalie: Hi.

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Thank you so much for giving me this space

and this opportunity to connect and chat.

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Lacey: Well, why don't you take a moment

and introduce yourself to our listeners.

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Magalie: Sure.

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. My name is Mag Lee Renee,

and I'm so happy to be here.

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I am a reinvention architect and I also

like to call myself a legacy creator

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because I support women in going from a.

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Their reinventions and these huge

life transitions to creating their

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legacy and something that they

feel really passionate about.

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Lacey: we are so much about life

transitions here at during the

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middle because that's where a

lot of the big work happens.

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And it started from my own life

transition of going from not

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chronically ill and that kind of stuff.

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But when you first heard of, the

concept of the middle or thought of the

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middle, what was your initial reaction?

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Magalie: first I love the title.

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I think the Messy Middle is something

not enough people talk about.

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I attempted a series years

ago, and it was all about.

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talking about what's real and not just the

aftermath and the pretty picture and what,

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everyone brags about the highlight reel.

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I love the idea of talking about

what's real, talking about what

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people really go through and what

it takes to get to the other side

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or get to wherever you're going.

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So I love the title.

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That was the first thing.

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Lacey: Yeah, I don't know about you,

but I want to be on the other side.

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I don't do well here in the

messiness, because I'm a masochist,

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I guess I like to talk about it, to

think maybe I'll get better at it.

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Magalie: I think not enough

people are talking about.

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what are their coping mechanisms and how

are they navigating the messy middle?

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the other piece that stuck out

for me about your podcast was

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your story and being chronically

ill, because I can relate to that.

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So that's another thing many people

talk about kind of generally, but don't

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really discuss what it actually takes to.

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Live a good life and be functioning

and potentially high functioning

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and doing the things you love,

while your body isn't cooperating.

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So I think that's another

really important topic.

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Lacey: Yeah, and I think the

definition of what a good life

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is doesn't necessarily change.

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It just becomes more clear.

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I think that's something that I've really

realized lately of had a lot of stories.

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impacting what I thought I wanted

and what I thought I should

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be doing and that kinda stuff.

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Magalie: Yep.

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Lacey: but instead it's just

become a lot more clear of oh no,

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this is where I'm supposed to be.

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This is the beauty of all this stuff.

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And it feels a lot easier

and a lot better to do that.

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Magalie: that's amazing.

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Lacey: we like to dive into a specific

messy middle and then I'm gonna ask you

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a bunch of questions 'cause I'm nosy.

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what would you like to share?

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What's your middle we're

gonna talk about today?

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Magalie: okay, so.

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The messy middle for me is rebuilding

my business right now after getting

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diagnosed with hyperthyroidism,

which has changed my energy level

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and what I can accomplish in a day.

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before I got this diagnosis, a friend

of mine complimented me and she said,

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your 100% is everybody else's 180,

meaning I get so much done and I'm

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so high functioning in the doing

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Lacey: Yeah.

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Magalie: right in my life that she

was basically saying it's amazing what

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you're able to accomplish and it's

so much more than most people can do.

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And now I get to shift that

and it's really challenging.

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It's very messy.

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Lacey: Well, okay, so

I'm a hypothyroid gal.

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That's part of my chronic illness,

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Curious about what led you to hyper

and what that even looks like.

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'cause I only hear about hypo

as much though hypo for me is.

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sluggish, gaining weight, all that stuff.

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So in my mind I'm like, so

you're hyper and you lose weight.

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That sounds great.

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Magalie: Yeah.

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No, no.

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Not when you're as, as petite as I am.

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No, you end up looking very emaciated.

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I didn't actually know what was

going on and I was in like, I don't

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know if any of your listeners.

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Have experienced any thyroid issues, but

the thyroid is like, what manages and

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n it like holds your hormones, right?

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It, it regulates your hormones

among other things, but essentially

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chronic illnesses overall.

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So just to back it out, like chronic

illnesses are affecting and autoimmune

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issues are affecting so many women.

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So my hyperthyroidism, I'll

share exactly what it does

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right after I explain this part.

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the chronic illnesses and the

autoimmune issues is actually what

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caused my hyperthyroidism I think

it's due to a lot of factors.

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I can't pinpoint one.

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I think it's the food that we're

exposed to in this country.

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I think it's the stress levels and

our, my hustle and grind mentality.

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It is not for women.

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Like 80% of the people with, autoimmune

issues and chronic illnesses are women.

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There is a reason for that, right?

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We're not wired to operate in

this hyper-masculine energy

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and we're praised for it.

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And it also feels really good

for me to get things done.

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Lacey: So

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Magalie: So yeah, it feels so

good to check it off the list,

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but we're not really wired.

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In that way, not to say we're not meant to

accomplish, we're just meant to accomplish

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cyclically and in a different type of way.

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So back to hyperthyroidism,

hyperthyroidism is the

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opposite of what you just said.

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So instead of.

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I do feel sluggish because

my body's on overdrive.

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So everything is fast.

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My metabolism is fast, so anything I eat,

the nutrients, it just goes like this.

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So I've gotta keep eating and continue

to kind of try and take in nutrients.

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My body's not doing what it's supposed

to do right when it comes to that.

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And also that means that, not only

the weight loss if I don't really

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eat very, very well, but also.

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the heart rate, everything is on super

speed and supercharge, which makes so

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much sense that it's happening because

of who I am and my friends that here

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are like, of course you what happens?

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I naturally move fast.

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I naturally am very like, peppy.

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This is just my pro.

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I'm passionate, a triple fire sign.

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It's like a lot going on.

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So like, it makes sense, but your

body is basically overheating.

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they even tell you to slow down on

exercise I was in the ER three times at

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the end of last year before I actually

asked for the thyroid panel, and then

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got diagnosed because I requested it I

advocated for myself, which is bananas.

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Lacey: Yeah,

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Magalie: Bananas.

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I mean, I'm gonna let you ask the

questions 'cause I'll just go on.

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Lacey: of all, preaching to the choir.

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I had to request, even though I was in

the hospital three times, that's bananas.

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Magalie: is crazy and like the symptoms

were so obvious that all it took me doing

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was Googling and not getting crazy, but

really looking into the specific symptoms.

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So I find it insane that so

many doctors miss this and

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didn't give me a thyroid panel.

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It's nuts.

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Lacey: what I think is really interesting

is what you just said of, there's

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this need in our culture and society

to go, do all these different things.

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And so when you were talking

about the hyperthyroidism of

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things, it's the stuff that.

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Society's telling us to do, right?

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It's telling us, you need to be losing

weight, you need or be small, you need to

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be constantly going, and all those things.

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So I imagine as a person that,

I don't wanna say naturally

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from your body, it's harder to.

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Recognize it's harder to, I think,

reconcile with in your brain.

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'cause for me, I'm like, oh,

that's why my body sucks.

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That's why I'm not meeting expectations.

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You know what I mean?

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But to hear that you, I just,

that's so mind-boggling in a way.

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'cause my brain is wait,

how do those go together?

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Magalie: Like a perspective.

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It's a real perspective and it's also

just to, it's a just notice around how

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we think of beauty standards, how we

like, how we think of the body, what

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our supposed to should conversations

are, and how irrelevance they

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actually are to whether we're living.

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A life, the life we're supposed to

live and whether we're thriving, right?

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We look at some people on social

media, some women in particular

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that have this like perfect.

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The look right is like perfect.

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And I'm not saying that's what I am.

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I'm just saying when I look at like the

beauty standards and we have no idea

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what's actually going on in their mental,

physical, emotional, spiritual life,

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we do not know where they actually are.

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And so there's just that dichotomy

of what we think success and thriving

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looks like and what it actually means.

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Lacey: The other thing is you were

talking, it really kind of hit me.

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Oh.

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your metabolism, if you are

metabolizing food that fast, you're

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not getting the nutrients you need.

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And I also think that's such a

interesting way of looking at it,

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of if you're constantly moving so

fast, you're missing out on so much.

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And so I just think that there, there's,

can lead to a bigger picture as well.

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Magalie: Yeah, I think that's really

interesting because that what you just

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shared is also a metaphor for life.

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if you're moving too fast, what I'm

attempting to create is a business.

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that requires much less.

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Pressure, stress, active doing

from me and something that is

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a little bit more sustainable,

in the way that I go about it.

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I'm realizing that I miss out on

my creativity and on ideas that

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actually let me get to my goal much

quicker because I'm moving so fast.

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And in the doing of the way

things are, traditionally done.

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And so if the traditional model

is to go, move, move, move.

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next thing, next thing, next thing.

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What's the new idea?

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New idea.

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New idea.

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When you slow down, I can only speak for

myself, but when I slow down and allow

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myself the space to be, and that could

be in nature, that could be resting,

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that could be spending time with friends.

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That could be just taking a

stroll after dinner, right?

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Just walking.

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Ideas that are much more aligned,

much more creative, and much more,

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easeful come through and then

I get to the goal much easier.

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But it's such a different approach

than the way that we've been taught

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to do things, that it requires a lot

of discipline from me now to not beat

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myself up for not getting enough done.

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Lacey: you were talking, I had this

realization of, what I like to say is I

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would've never slowed down , quote unquote

if my body didn't make me, essentially

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my body was like, you done girl.

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Magalie: No.

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Lacey: Yeah, to hear you not that you

had the opposite, obviously you were

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in the hospital several times your day,

but you have to be a lot more conscious

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and intentional in the slowing down.

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And that's one that's hard,

but two, that's brave.

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it's hard to say, no, I'm not doing this.

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So I just, I wanna hear a little

bit more about that mind shift of

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Magalie: Yeah.

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Lacey: you did that.

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Magalie: That's beautiful.

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Thank you for reflecting that.

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because I'm in it, so I

don't really see myself.

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It's nice to have someone kind

of reflect that back to me.

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I heard you say was boundary.

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Lacey: Yeah.

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Magalie: Like, how do you say

no, and what has it taken from me

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to shift into being able to hold

boundaries and say no to things?

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A few days ago I heard, I don't even

know where I heard it or read it.

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But I read somewhere that,

oh, I was doing okay.

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I just remembered I was doing a, an intake

with this, chiropractor and somebody that

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does something called ENET or something.

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It's like a body healing thing.

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I was doing an intake with him and

he said, yeah, autoimmune issues.

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The root of it is a lack of

boundaries, and I was like.

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Like my head exploded.

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I was like, wait, what?

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Like of course, because

so many women, right?

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80% of women are challenged

with autoimmune issues and.

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Most women are kind of raised

to have poor boundaries.

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We're meant to over nurture

overgive, be there for everybody.

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Say yes to everything.

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Make sure everyone's okay.

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Put ourselves last.

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So it's so clicked for me.

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and what it's taken from me is.

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I don't know.

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It was almost like a light switch

when your body is not having it.

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I don't know.

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It's just something in me changed.

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I just became unavailable for bullshit.

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Unavailable.

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I'm unavailable.

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I'm unavailable.

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Even this is in my personal relationships

too, like I had a lot of little, I

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didn't realize this, but I had a lot

of little resentments, little things.

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If a friend was not calling me as

much as I was, I was calling them.

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If I wasn't being asked in a

conversation, how are you doing?

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And the person was just

kind of like dumping on me.

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I mean, little things that I would

normally brush under the rug and just

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be like, that's the way they are.

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I'm unavailable for that now.

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Like

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Lacey: Oh.

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Magalie: literally will have the

conversation and say, Hey, which is super

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uncomfortable, but I don't know, it just

feels kind of like instead of holding.

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The problem people are presenting me

with or the issue, instead of holding

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the hurt inside of myself and saying,

ah, I'll just deal with it and change the

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way I kind of engage with that person.

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I'm actually laying it at their feet and

saying, this is how that made me feel.

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I'm not doing that so that they'll

respond to me in a specific

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way and become this person.

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I don't care what they do with

that information, but I'm not gonna

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hold it anymore because holding it.

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Does it like support me and not making it?

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They don't need to respond a certain way.

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It doesn't need to turn into anything.

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But I'm just letting people, I'm sharing

how I feel, and then people meet me at

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the capacity where they can meet me.

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So both in my and then I

make a decision, right?

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If they meet me in support and

friendship and reciprocity, then

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that's what continues to be.

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If they meet me in a different way,

I'm not in a back and forth argument.

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I'm just like, I understand.

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Thanks for sharing.

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Or Cool and I let them be where they're

at, and I choose differently in terms

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of how I spend my energy and time.

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And so I'm doing that in my personal

life and then in my work life, I

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just am like, if it doesn't feel

good, if it doesn't feel good and

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it takes too much energy, then there

gets to be a different way to do it.

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Either I'm asking for support.

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Or I am saying no to it,

or I am delegating it.

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I'm asking for support with it.

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I'm delegating it, or I'm saying no to it.

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So I hope that gives you, I

hope that's a solid answer to

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Lacey: It

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Magalie: how that should,

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Lacey: have had, a

parallel of realization.

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I call it.

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I'm getting over my nice white ladys

because, that's what we're supposed

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to do as white ladies is to make

everybody as comfortable as possible

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and our comfort is not important

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Magalie: interesting thing.

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Lacey: and so to hear you say that,

I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what I'm

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trying to do too, of being like,

no, I'm allowed to not do that.

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Magalie: Yeah.

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Lacey: Because I am cute, nosy as a On

the opposite, what were your symptoms

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that were taking you to the hospital?

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Magalie: so I had a racing heart.

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I had anxiety attacks.

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I'd never gotten anxiety attacks before.

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I was like making fun of people.

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This, which this is what

I get making fun of.

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Gen Z and being like all they have

is anxiety, which I understand why

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they have so much anxiety, but I was

like, what is this anxiety attack?

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I was watching some show and I'm like

tackling about it and like two days

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later I had a literal anxiety attack,

like hyperventilating head down,

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trying to breathe into it was a mess.

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And then I got five subsequent anxiety

attacks over the next You know, six months

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to a year, which was so not normal for me.

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And eventually I started

to feel like I was sick.

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Like I had the flu, but I had no cold.

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And then I started getting a racing heart.

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So when I went to the urgent

care, my heart rate was at 1 31

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Lacey: Resting.

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Magalie: My resting heart rate was 1 31.

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That's like somebody who's ran

miles marathon, and so it was 1 31.

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They told me to leave my car.

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They said just get an

Uber and go to the er.

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Do not drive, like do not drive.

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Do not pass.

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Do not.

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Like, so I get to the er.

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That was the, that was, the first thing.

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And so there were, the other

thing was, I thought I was in like

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perimenopause, which doesn't make

sense because my body, my, my, gyno

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was like, everything is checking out.

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You know, if you wanna have kids,

I'm in that good, I don't know what

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you would call that, but like, my,

my feminine, like feminine shape.

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I'm in like really good

health in that area.

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And, I was getting these

like severe hot flashes.

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So it was December in New York and I had

a huge event and I was, I had to take my

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coat, my sweater, everything, my hat off,

and it was freezing and I was literally.

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Boiling.

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There was like steam

coming outta my jacket.

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Like I was so hot, but

it wasn't very menopause.

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It was that I was overheating

'cause of my overactive thyroid.

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So those are some of the symptoms.

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Wanting to pass out, feeling like

you're gonna pass out was another one.

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probably extreme emotions like extreme.

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Up and down, emotions, like I was like

so depressed and then I'd be so happy.

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It was very manic in a way.

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It's hard to talk about this,

but that's what was going on when

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I was in like a thyroid storm.

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Lacey: it makes sense, like if you're

having anxiety attacks and your

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heart rates go up, then I'm sure your

body is like releasing adrenaline

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and all these different things and

you're, if there's anything that

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I've learned is that hormones are.

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Such a mess.

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Magalie: We need

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Lacey: we

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Magalie: them.

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Lacey: them and they have

to be in a certain way.

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science is just now starting

to study women's bodies, so

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Magalie: But that's because

men dominated the field.

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That was the, it wasn't a

field that was open to women.

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So of course men aren't studying

women the way women would study women.

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So that makes sense.

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Lacey: so yeah, so you've got all this.

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Stuff happening.

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You go to the hospital multiple times,

then you say, give me these tests.

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They give 'em to you.

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You get your diagnosis.

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Did you feel relieved

or were you frustrated?

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what was that like?

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Magalie: So relieved.

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Oh, I was with my friend on the

third visit when I asked, and the

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nurse comes back and she goes, well,

your thyroid is a little bit off.

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And I said, well, let me see the numbers.

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And they weren't a little,

literally my friend goes.

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A little bit off.

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These are insane.

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none of us knew anything

about like, but you could tell

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the numbers were not normal.

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Like they were so beyond normal.

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We go a little bit off, but I think she

probably wasn't allowed to diagnose me,

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which is why her language was that way.

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but the relief that washed

over me was beyond, I was like.

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So excited, and my friend goes,

why are you happy right now?

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I said, you have no idea what it's

like to know that your body isn't

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working and to not know what it is.

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Of course, you're thinking

of the worst case scenario.

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You're like, am I go?

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Am I crazy?

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Am I losing my mind?

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Am I a mer penny perimenopause?

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Which to be honest, I'm not

trying to rush menopause like.

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No, listen, it's beautiful.

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We get to be in our crone era,

but I'd like to live this out a

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ride this wave a little longer.

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So like there were so many things,

I'm like, could it be cancer?

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What am I missing?

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the relief was real.

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Lacey: I say for me is diagnosis

is, for me it didn't change how I

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felt internally, but it changed how

I could talk to people about it.

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And that is always such a gift to be able

to say, this is what this is, and that

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then people can wrap their mind around it.

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I also love that you also said it's

not all in my head because a big part

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of my own process was like realizing

yes, of course I think about what is

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happening, but that does not mean that

my thought is what is making it happen.

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And so especially because of

the culture of go do da, we're

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constantly blaming everything

on ourselves and this like hyper

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individualism and all this stuff that.

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It's taken me a while to learn, oh, I

have the thought because it's happening.

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My thought is not making it happen.

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So like it was, it's been so hard of

yeah, when I think, oh, I'm tired.

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I need to lay down.

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My body's feeling tired.

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It's telling my brain that

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Magalie: Yeah, that's powerful.

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Lacey: has

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Magalie: That's really powerful.

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, Lacey: You said, I wanna make

sure I understand this right.

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So you've had all this happen.

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This has caused you to

change your business.

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Magalie: Yeah.

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Lacey: Tell me about

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Magalie: Oh yeah.

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It's so interesting.

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It's caused me to change

the backend of my business.

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So, my systems, so it's a few things.

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I like the idea.

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To articulate what I'm, what I

wanna say, the idea of the masculine

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and the feminine working together.

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So in order for me to be able to be

in my flow and actually operate at

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the highest level of my femininity,

masculine structures in my business

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need to be super fundamentally sound.

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The processes, the systems, the

structures, the way things happen, the

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steps, automation, all these things

need to be kind of fundamentally

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sound so that I can actually operate

with cycle in my cycle, right?

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I can actually rest when I need to

because certain things are gonna

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keep working, whether I am fully

present in it, doing it or not.

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I just had something called the

Renaissance Women Virtual Retreat,

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and this was for women who were going

through life reinventions and wanna

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create something really powerful from

it, wanna alchemize it and become the

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best version of themselves, or launch

a business or start a passion project

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or write a book or whatever it is.

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we had about 208 women sign up.

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We had about 145 throughout the weekend

and about 50 that were like the strong.

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You know, 50 that stayed

throughout, just about, and what's

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interesting is I asked for support.

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I reached out to my network

of colleagues and coaches and

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friends, and they were my Zoom.

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They were doing all of the

zoom management was handled.

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even bringing women in, collaborating

with women and having them do some

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of the marketing for me, like there

was just so much ease and flow in me

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creating this event because I did it in

a way that was supportive to my needs.

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Right.

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the foundation and the structures were

tight and the marketing plan, everything

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was planned in advance, so wasn't

a rush, rush, get it done, freaking

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out hair on fire, kind of situation.

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And so I'm changing the things

in my backend, but also.

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I have been working with people

who are launching projects and

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launching businesses for years.

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And I also have a corporate arm,

an actual company called Workplace

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Catalyst, and we work with companies.

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And so we've worked with like Eventbrite

and Citi group and a bunch of names.

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some really amazing work.

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And even in that now I have

facilitators that support the process.

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So that I don't need to be the

one doing the facilitating.

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I have my framework and my

process and I teach them and

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they go out and they facilitate.

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and the women that are coming

into, the Renaissance woman who's

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my ideal client when she comes

in, even what I teach these women.

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I'm no longer teaching.

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get it done, get it done.

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Get it done.

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I have a process that is by call

it embodied achievement, right?

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Embodied accomplishment, where

we're learning how to do.

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Through being, we're learning

how to get things done without

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burning ourselves down.

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We're learning how to operate at the

highest level with ease, with flow,

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and there's structure that's needed,

but also like connecting to our bodies

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and somatic work that can help you feel

more at ease when you're doing work Body

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connected tools that help you to do that.

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So I've been practicing them in

my business, and then I'm also

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teaching people how to do it.

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So a lot has changed.

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Lacey: Do you feel like you've

gotten to a quote unquote end

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Magalie: I'm so in the middle

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I don't think I'm looking to, I don't

think there's gonna be this other,

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this magical other side of this.

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I think my body may heal, but even

if it does, there's always a chance

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that if I go back to what I was doing.

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So even if I get on the other

side of the diagnosis and I no

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longer experience the symptoms,

the change is a permanent change.

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This is the new version, the

upgraded version of who I am.

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So I'll always be in the middle, I think.

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Lacey: I feel like that's a

good end point to your story.

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I do like to ask people for

like a piece of tangible advice.

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'cause I love a piece of advice.

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I love a takeaway.

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what would you say is either

something that maybe would've helped

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you or something that you live by?

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Something like that?

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Magalie: I'd say two things.

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Listen to your body and love your life.

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Those are the two things.

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If there's something you don't love

about your life right now, shift it.

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Shift it now.

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Work on shifting it now because your

body eventually will respond to that.

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and not in necessarily a positive way.

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And I think the other piece and the first

piece of it all is listen to your body.

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Your body's telling you everything.

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It needs you to know to make

sure that you love your life.

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Lacey: how can people find you,

work with you, all that jazz?

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Magalie: Yeah, jump onto Instagram.

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I think that's one of the best places.

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It's Maglie Renee, that's

M-A-G-A-L-I, eCore, RENE.

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, I'll send a link and like with a gift

that anyone who's going through a

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life transition or wants to create

something powerful or is in the

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process of creating something powerful

on the other side of their, maybe

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post-divorce, maybe post career change

or something, I'll give them a special

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gift and I'll share that with you.

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The last piece is that I'm hosting

the Renaissance Woman Virtual Retreat.

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This is my second one and it's

called Divorce to Destiny.

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That's sort of the theme, and it's

gonna be on October 26th and 27th,

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I love to have you all there.

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We'll share that as well.

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Lacey: Awesome.

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That would be great.

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Thank you so much for sharing your

story and everything you've gone through

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and just your middle with us today.

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Thank you so much.