On today's July 5th, 2021 episode, you’ll also hear from painter Sandy Rodriguez. Her paintings on amate, the ancient bark paper, have been central to our work. You’ll hear Sandy talk about how she creates colors and dyes through ancient methods and the meanings behind how she uses colors.

Also, Project 1521 writer Sara Harris is a master gardener. You’ll hear some of that knowledge in this piece she read during a Project 1521 reading at the Beyond Baroque in 2020.

Thank you for listening to this podcast. This episode was produced by Darren J. de Leon and Adolfo Guzman-Lopez.