Have your loved ones been trying to send you signs... and you've been missing them?

From repeating numbers and vivid dreams to unexplained coincidences and messages that seem too specific to ignore, millions of people have wondered whether those moments are random—or something more.

In this thought-provoking episode of The Iconic Midlife, I sit down with intuitive medium Jennifer Shaffer to explore the extraordinary experiences that have made her one of the most sought-after intuitives in the country. Jennifer shares how she receives messages, the biggest misconceptions about mediumship, what she's learned from helping grieving families, and why she believes intuition is something we all possess.

We also dive into her fascinating work consulting on criminal investigations, her friendship with Jessica Alba, and the incredible story behind the upcoming Fox drama inspired by her life.

And yes... Jennifer gives me a live reading during the episode with absolutely no advance information, making for one of the most unexpected moments we've ever had on The Iconic Midlife.

Whether you're a lifelong believer, a healthy skeptic, or simply curious about what lies beyond what we can see, this conversation will leave you asking bigger questions about intuition, connection, and the possibility that love continues long after we're gone.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Are loved ones really sending us signs?
• The biggest myths about psychic mediums
• How Jennifer receives messages from spirit
• Intuition vs. mediumship—what's the difference?
• Her work consulting on criminal investigations
• The Fox television series inspired by her life and produced by Jessica Alba
• A live, unscripted reading during the interview
• The one message Jennifer believes everyone needs to hear

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Like, they were the first ones to help out. 29 Years later, he killed five people execution style.

Oh, my God.

And like, he'll be found tonight, somebody that has glasses. He's not being harmed. He just went. And all of that happened. A guy with glasses, tall, you know, found him. He was safe.

And when I went to the hospital to see him, he goes, jennifer, you were right. And he goes, I knew what you were saying, but I didn't want to believe it. What do you think is the biggest.

Misconception about people like you, like psychic mediums, medical mediums?

I think everyone has this innate intelligence. They might not have it on croc. Everybody has a voice. Not everybody should sing. Creating a show right now about my life, having somebody play me.

Your good friend Jessica Alba is doing a show about this. Have you ever had a moment you simply couldn't explain? Maybe you thought about someone moments before they called?

Kept seeing the same numbers everywhere or felt like a loved one who had passed was somehow still with you? Are those just coincidences or could they actually be signs? Today's guest has spent years helping people navigate those very questions.

She's a renowned psychic medium who has worked with everyone from everyday families searching for comfort to high profile clients looking for clarity. Her extraordinary work has even inspired a new Fox drama being produced by Jessica Alba.

Whether you're a lifelong believer, a curious skeptic, or somewhere in between, today's conversation just might challenge the way you think about intuition, grief, and the possibility that we're more connected than we realize. And yes, later in this episode, Jennifer has agreed to do something she's never done before with me, a live reading.

I have no idea what's going to happen and I haven't shared anything with her beforehand, so. So you'll experience it right alongside me. If you're enjoying the iconic midlife, I'd love for you to subscribe.

Wherever you're listening, leave a five star review and follow me on social media, redcarpetroxy and at the iconic midlife. Every review, share and follow helps us bring you more incredible conversations like this one. Now let's welcome Jennifer Schaeffer.

Welcome to the iconic midlife. Jennifer, how are you today?

I am fabulous. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me.

Oh, I'm so excited you're here and happy belated birthday.

Thank you.

Oh, my gosh. Was it fun? What did you do? Was it exciting?

It was actually a lot of fun. It was fun because the US played, the soccer team played and they won, which was very exciting. But I just I love.

I have two kids that are at home now from college. One graduated, the other one is still going to Berkeley, but very. I love having them home. It's just so much more fun. Yeah.

That is exciting to have the kids around. It, like, brings a new level, I'm sure, to the house, you know, when they're back.

Yeah, it does. Because now they can ask for a drink that's like, oh, yeah, you guys are legal.

That's wild. You can't say no anymore, right?

No.

That's amazing. Well, you know, I wanted to have you on, because we have actually met before at a Dear Friends charity event. Joan's wish list. Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

Was that when I read my. It was 97 people.

Yes. Yes, you did. And can I tell you. And we'll get into this a little bit later.

I love that. I don't know. But, like, I'm. I. One of the greatest gifts given to me is that every day is, like, new.

So even when I meet people, I tell them, like, please tell me that you've met me before or whatever, because I'm such a magoo. Especially when I'm in that, like, zone. Yes. That I was in. But that taught me so, so much that day.

I bet. I mean, 97 readings. Wow.

97 Readings.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. We're going to get into what you told me in just a little bit. But I.

It was literally one of those things where I was like, how could she know this? And both my husband and I said that because you gave us both, like, readings. And we just. We were so bowled over, and we couldn't even believe it.

So we'll definitely get into that.

Oh, I love that.

I love. Yeah, absolutely. It was so good. But I want to get into how you knew that you were gifted and special in this way.

Like, when did you know that you were different?

So what I've been told is because I had seizures at three and a half months old. It was called a larynx strider seizure. That my mom would race me to the hospital back then, no phones.

Finally, it lasted long enough because I turned black and blue. And sometimes when she'd get me there, it was already over. But one time, it lasted long enough, and there was a British doctor on staff, and he said.

He said. He goes, I've seen this before. I was the eighth documented case for this particular seizure.

And they gave me belladonna, which is a leucogenic and a poison. My mom was terrified, and she said, eventually I grew out of my seizures.

So Whether I charted that before, I'm pretty sure I did to happen, but my brain was fried. And then they gave me hallucinogenic on top of any. So like them back then, and they believe that was the gateway based upon brain scans and so forth.

And then I didn't know that I had this, but my. One of my earliest memories was, you know, not wanting to go across the street. I was raised Mormon.

Not wanting to go across the street to this Mormon household. I'm like, there's something really bad about, I felt about this kid.

And there couldn't have been the nicer, like, couldn't have been a nice, nicer family. Like, all of them. Like, the parents would come and bring food if somebody was out of a job.

Like, they were the first ones to help out, you know, to help out. 29 Years later, he killed five people execution style.

Oh, my God. Wow.

And so I had. I'm like. But my parents were like, why would you. I'm like, there's something really bad with him.

And he never did anything in high school that was wrong. Like, and I knew the five people that he killed.

Like, it was one of those things that I grew up in this little town called San Marcos, you know, down in San Diego. And he ended up doing that in Texas.

And I went on CNN with Dr. Drew because he, at the time, you know, this was 10 years ago at the time, to talk about how good the family actually was. It wasn't something that the child was abused or like, from a bad family. And I was the only one that knew the actual family.

The family was wonderful, but it was just so going back, I believe I was different. Like, I was a stockbroker. I knew all my boyfriend's passcodes to all their phones.

That's helpful. You can catch a cheater, right?

But I always tried to prove the worst part about it is I'm like, I know you're not good, but I like you anyway, you know?

So how did that talent, I mean, that really, that gift that you had, how did that resonate with the Mormon Church?

Like, didn't. Yeah, it didn't. But one day, one of their Boy Scouts went missing.

And they remembered because my parents had me on, you know, every prayer list and God bless them. And so they asked me, like, could you help us find this boy? I'm like, oh, that's interesting. And I did. I said there was going to be a gentleman.

I mean, they had one of the greatest things about Mormon community. There was hundreds and hundreds of people looking for this kid and my kid will be found tonight, and it's going to be by somebody that has glasses.

He's not being harmed. He just went, you know, and it feels like the park. And I told him. And all of that happened. A guy with glasses, tall, you know, phantom.

He was safe, but he. You know, so it's. They didn't know what to do with it. And I didn't feel comfortable.

I wasn't strong enough to be a part of the Mormon Church and do what I do for work. I just wasn't. You get to a place where, like, I'm super grateful that my dad, who was a Mormon bishop, believed in my work.

He.

And it was because he asked me. He's like, okay, so what's wrong with me? You know, because I do medical intuition. I said, his arm hurts. And I'm like, your arm hurts? Your right arm?

And he goes, my arm's fine. I'm like, okay. And I'm like, well, sometimes it. Maybe it just doesn't. Maybe it didn't work. I remember going upstairs and crying.

Like, how could you guys do this to me? It's my dad. A month later, he was at my house. My mom and my dad were at my house because we were going to Dr. Phil. He went for a running.

That run that morning, one of my cases was on Dr. Phil. And I. You know, I'm in the shower, my mom comes up and she goes, you know what? Your dad's defibrillary went off eight times. And we're.

I'm going to be going to the hospital.

I'm.

We might. I'm not sure. Like, she was in shock. I was in shock. Like, what's happening? He had a heart attack.

And when I went to the hospital this evening, he goes, jennifer, you were right. And he goes, I knew what you were saying, but I didn't want to believe it. And it changed our whole dynamic, our whole relationship.

Like, I love my dad dearly. I was so upset over giving him that information, but he goes, I knew what you were saying. He goes, it was my right arm.

He goes, I knew exactly what you were saying. I just didn't want to believe it. And look what happened.

He's like, okay. Mental note I gotta make. I gotta listen to her figure this out.

Figure it out. Yeah.

So what do you think is the biggest misconception about people like you, like, psychic mediums, medical mediums, like, people that, like, have these premonitions?

I think one of the big. One of the biggest misconceptions, I believe Is that people think that they don't have it. Oh, everyone has this innate intelligence.

They might not have it like on crack. Everybody has a voice. Not everybody should sing. It's. But everybody has it. And so they think it's just reserved for us. And that's not true.

So what would you say to somebody like that that is listening to their intuition, but, like, maybe our intuition is obviously different than your intuition. Right.

Everyone has. Everyone has different versions of it. Some people just fill things, which is actually the easier, which is better. I happen to see.

I literally see ghosts. I see. And I'm just classifying it as that spirit. I see the electric magnetic field that surrounds all of us. I see everybody's connections to it.

I get past, present, future. So I. I just had to learn what everything meant. And it's humbling. Like, the more I. I knew way more 10 years ago than I do now. The universe is vast.

Right. And I have a huge, you know, how would I say it? I'm much more sacred about what I do for work than I used to be.

Oh, interesting. So are you more. Just selective.

Very selective. Okay.

Okay. So what do you do in a case where you are receiving a message and you're not sure if you want to tell that person or you.

You know, because it could change their life.

Like, it carries weight. I ask if I should say it. Really? Not everything that I receive, I should say. And I learned that the hard way early on, so.

Oh, how was that?

Just with a case, you know, just because we get information, we shouldn't say it. Like, sometimes the parents aren't ready for it. Sometimes that's not.

You know, even if it's an open dialogue and they're there and they've said, please help me find my child or help me. So I asked the question, and I usually get told, you know, or how to say it, even. So this woman, her son was missing for six months.

And I knew he was in a tarp in the. Like, I can feel that. I'm like, okay, so what do I say? And I felt the spirit tell me. Tell her she had a dream about me last night.

And I told her what happened. And so I looked at her and I'm like, I'm getting the information that you. You had a dream last night.

And she just started bawling, so I didn't have to tell her. She knew what I was saying. And then we went from there.

So it's. I mean, the information you're getting is so specific. I mean, it's. It's usually always like that, right?

I mean, it's very specific, but it might not be for that person.

Oh, too.

So, like, for instance, when I'm too close to it, like my uncle, he said, he goes, he goes, jennifer, looking in my heart, I'm like, I do feel like there's something wrong with your heart. And I'm like, I feel like there. There is a heart attack.

Like, I couldn't figure out, well, his wife had a heart attack, so I felt one, but I didn't necessarily know where. And so now I know to dive deeper now, like this was, you know, early on.

And just because I see it with someone doesn't necessarily mean it's theirs too. It could be now. I'm very good about trying to navigate, but when it's close to my family, it's no fun, right?

Because sometimes you don't want to know, you know, those things.

My cross, for sure. People always say, can you turn it off? And I'm like, you know, I don't want to. I. I live my life. I never want to turn it off. And so.

But I just don't go around reading everyone. I don't want to have to be in a place where I have to, like, meditate. And I think meditation is.

I meditate every day, but I don't want to have to meditate to get information. I just want to always be in that state.

And so, because when I get called by law enforcement, it's not about having time to sit there, whether you could do it or not. You have to dive in whether you're driving a car, whether, you know, and I've just made my life like that. And so I never turn it off.

I just don't go around reading everyone.

I can imagine, like, girls night with you. Like, your friends get together and they're like, jennifer, Rebe, tell me what's going on.

I have groups of friends, but they, they don't. The worst problem is that they don't want to bother me. I'm like, I am not going to be the one that's going to. Unless you don't.

You have to tell me, hey, look into this, or, hey, something's going on in my life. Do not expect me to know and call you.

It just doesn't work like that, you know, sometimes, you know it does, but please just tell me, hey, I'm not feeling well. I'm like, I'm also not going to be the one that shows up at your doorstep with soup. I'll order it for you. Everyone knows I don't know how to cook.

If someone asked me if there was a bunch of people that needed me to cook, they would die. And then I would be able to talk to them. Like, I will be there for you for every illness, every.

Like, everything else, but don't expect me to know things either. Please just say, hey, Jen, can you look into this? And I will.

Okay.

Yeah.

Let me ask you this. When it's your own kids, how. Like, how does that work? Like,.

It's interesting because they knew. Like, when they would lie to me, I'm like, can you come here for a second? And they knew. And I could see them trying to clear their heads.

I'm like, you think that's gonna work? Okay. They're like, don't think, don't think, don't think, don't think. She's gonna reach her mind. I don't make a blank slate. It was just so funny. But.

But then I had to live with the fact that they tell me everything. Now, there's certain things where, you know, like, my daughter, she goes, I. She goes. I was asked, like, what is it like living with your mom?

And she goes, well, I just thought talking to plants was normal. And, like, my mom never had a plant die. Like, I. You know, I was. I just. I've had orchids that have lasted for five years. They keep coming back.

I'm an orchid whisperer in my house. Yeah. I just. I figured out some. Everything is alive. And so when you get to that place, like, I went vegan for a year. Worst time of my life.

Not because of. I couldn't eat. It was easier for me to eat meat than eat lettuce because it was still alive. So I'm like, where do I go from here? Really?

So you were kind of in your head about that a bit.

I'll do it. It got to that point, I'm like, okay, something has to change. This is my. This is so lame. How is this happening to me?

It was easier to pray over something that was already gone.

Really? Oh, that's so interesting. I've never heard that take on it.

We finally got a fake Christmas tree. My husband's from Pennsylvania. Not that means anything, but Christmas tree was. And I would get sick every single December. I would hear that.

No matter what, I would say, thank you for being part of our life. Thank you for celebrating. Like, I could hear the high pitch of the Christmas tree dying. And I'm like, we can't do this anymore.

And so we got a fake Christmas tree, and it's been the best thing ever. But I'm like, for many reasons, like, well, you know, I tried to get a Christmas tree where we can replant, like, all those things, and it just.

Never worked because they do die in the end.

Always tried my best not to fill it, and it just. No matter what I did, it just wouldn't work. It was just Christmas became miserable for me, and I loved Christmas so much.

Is it a painful death for Christmas trees? Like, is it something where.

I don't think it is. I think they know. So this is another thing I've learned since then. Trees and animals know. Know when they're gonna die. Like, they know their purpose.

They. It's humans that are. We don't know. We don't know when. We don't know what our purpose is. We're still trying to figure out. They know their purpose.

They know that they come in here, they. They do what they need to do, and then that they're contracted to us, and then they leave. We're the ones that don't know.

That's so interesting, I think, you know, you're so right about that. Their intelligence level is beyond.

Beyond.

Right?

Beyond. Like, if you want information, go. Literally hug a tree. Go to the ocean. I commune every day. I'm not gonna win.

I'm very grateful that I get to go to the water, you know, and I get to. And I used to take it. I didn't take it for granted, but it was my. It was every. It was my medicine.

But now when I go down there, I'm like, thank you for healing me. What? You know, can I enter? And when I ask, can I enter? I get shown pictures and feelings and emotions that I would never think of.

Like, the first time I asked that question, I was on a cliff. What came into my mind? I was on a cliff with these white, like, cool out pants.

And I had to have been five years old, and I was in Scotland, and I heard the words whisper to me saying, you've always been welcome. And then I got these flashes, and it's nothing I was thinking about. And it just made me feel so much better.

And when you do that, you know, like, another time that I went down there, they're like, hand it all over. And I was having a heavy, challenging, content day, I call it. And it just. I'm like, thank you. Like, we're meant to handle it.

And it showed me just the waves crashing. And, like, if.

The more that you get in tune with the earth and with whatever is your sanctuary, you're able to bring it back with you when you're in a place like this, when you're just, you know, you're meant to have big. Everyone's so deeply connected, they just don't know that they are.

So how do you find out? Like, how do you get to that place?

Through silence, meditation, prayer, whatever it is that works for you. It doesn't have to be one way or another. You don't have to sit there. You can go for a run and get in your meditative state.

You can play music and commune. You can. Whatever is your X, Y, Z. Cook.

Yeah, Cook. Yeah, whatever. You give you enjoyment, right? That's so important. Especially now. I feel like we're lacking joy in this world. You know, the other.

You know, I have so many. I look for algorithms with my work. I deal with the dead.

I have people that come in here that come in that want to know the last 24 hours of their child's life. I have people that. I had a client, you know, last week that literally was waiting for me to. I looked at him and I said, you.

You want to leave the planet? And he goes, yep. I can't tell you how many times I've had clients that have found me and that have, like, I was going to be their last call.

Like they went into their own life.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You think about death. So I thought about death as a child constantly.

And I believe the Mormon church saved me because I knew that if I committed suicide that I would go to the least heaven, whatever that means. I've never heard it like that, but at least. And so, But I thought about suicide.

Well, when you're a child, when you're a kid, if you play soccer, you get a soccer coach. When you, if you dance, you get a dance coach. When you think about death, you're depressed, you go to a shrink. That's if you're lucky.

And I just, It's. So when I explained this to him, I told him, I said, you or he very well known surgeon.

And I'm like, you deal with death, but you're not in charge of it. Like, you're thinking about death because not for you to be over there so that you can work with it. There's no death school.

So I thinking about suicide growing up and wanting to leave the planet myself. It wasn't for me to be over there. It was because I was going to be working with it in the future.

When you're younger, you get these ideas that a lot of times end up. You end up doing things later on, you know, that you're passionate about. My daughter would read World War II book novels with women.

She's now working for aerospace. She's an aerospace engineer. You know, there's just things. Who knew. Like, there was no way that I would have known, being Mormon that there's.

That's even a. Like, I'm going to be a medium one day. Not a thing. I know it wasn't a thing. Like, that wasn't. Everybody's like, what? You talk to dead people.

That's great, Jed.

Yeah. It's not something you can really train for or go to school for. I mean, it just comes like you're.

Saying, there's some great teachers out there that, you know, I was very fortunate. Lisa Williams took van reefer wing. John Holland, a lot of. There's some great teachers out there that will help you understand it more.

Because I think people are people now especially know ever since COVID they're just like, this isn't it. This can't be it. There's gotta be more to this. You know? And so it's made my job easier. Like, I don't have people that don't.

Even if they don't, I'm like, great, then we don't have to talk about it.

Right?

Let's just have fun. Let's have fun. But people need. So the people on the other side, too, they're like, you're wasting your bodies. You guys are not having fun. Oh, not.

They're like, you sit there in your heads, you on your phones. They're like, get outside. Go play. Go have sex. Go do this. Go enjoy. You still have your bodies.

That's fascinating. So they tell you, like, that's a repetitive message that you hear from them all the time.

They're like, one of the biggest things that I heard that I thought was very interesting is no one has ever said they wish they would have held back from the other side. Not one person.

Not one.

Not one person. Somebody's come through saying, I'm sorry you have trust issues because I cheated on your mom or whatever.

But no one has ever said, I wish I wouldn't have taken that kiss. I wish I would have had that, you know, whatever it is, that quality.

Time spent with loved ones.

You don't take your things with you.

Right.

Take the memories. So are you. Are you doing everything you can just to get those things? Or are you enjoying yourself for the things that are free? Right, Right.

Absolutely right.

I know it's.

Yeah. No, it's. It's really. It's a good lesson for people to know because it's something that we take for granted.

We're like, you're saying we're on our phones. We're, like, running around from meeting to meeting. Like, you know, we're parenting. We're, you know, in relationships.

It's like, it's never about that. What's really important. It seems like, you know, every day.

I look for things, I'm like, okay, this is what I want in my heaven, you know, this is what I want. This is what I want my kids to remember. This is what, like, this moment, like, I'm. I'm. I.

Because of the moments that I have been shown through thousands, I've get. Literally at this stage, I've given thousands and thousands of readings.

And I just now, like, I want them to be able to reflect on, wow, we might not have had everything, but my mom made sure we had fun.

Oh, that's, you know, that's what's important. You know, it's like that joy, that fun. So what do you think when people are coming to you? What do you think that they're looking for?

What are they searching for? What's missing?

Probably validation. I think that when people come to me, they know things, but they don't know it's true or they don't know. I validate what they already know.

And what I always say to people is that you're always connected. I just might move your awareness to that connection.

I don't change anything, but I just move your awareness to something that you've always been connected to. And that could be your intuition. It could be your grandparents, it could be your loved ones.

It could be, you know, the crazy dreams that you've had or things that you've had as a child that get validated.

What do you think people are looking for when they come to you? The validation?

And so it's almost like they kind of know in the back of their minds or their intuition, they're just not paying attention to it, right?

They sometimes don't want to know. So when people come to me to wanting a divorce, for instance, I never tell anyone to get a divorce unless they're in. In physical harm.

And like, there's been. I can count on one hand how many times I'm like, you know what? You need to leave now or you need to get out of this.

But I usually just validate what they already know. They usually know the answer before they come to me.

They either want to Be talked out of their answer or they want to be like, did they miss anything? Are they sure? You know? And I just. I will never say you need to do this. Okay.

So you kind of just give.

I give them the information and I get out.

That's amazing. Okay. If you're okay with it. I mean, it's okay if you're not too. Did I experience this firsthand with you? Okay. Okay.

I'm like, don't be scared. Yeah.

Just tell me if something comes.

There's something with a mother figure too, but I also had something that came through earlier. I know it was my birthday, but are. Are you celebrating a birthday with somebody?

So my daughter's birthday is this coming July 10th.

Okay. Is she named after somebody on the other side? Because that's what's coming through. Okay. And give me. Give me the name. Because I work with names.

Her name is Ray. B, R A Y.

And who's the person that's coming through that? She's has the middle name for my father's mother.

So it's her grandmother who he never met.

And that's her.

That was her maiden name.

So I feel like. So that's what was coming through.

So I feel like she's saying that they're super excited for her and that she's been really, like, striving over the last couple years. It feels like to. She's just straightened things out. It feels like. And I don't know. I don't know your daughter. I don't even know how old is she?

She's going to be 12. Okay. She's so cute. There's some teeth issues. She's growing, like, obviously she's growing, but she's growing into her body.

Like there's something that she's feeling a very. Like she. She doesn't have really spatial awareness right now. And she's still. She still wakes up in the middle of night.

Or is there anything that goes on with her?

So she has recently, like. Like to come back to bed.

Okay.

She's getting the parents because she's.

Okay. There's something about. Okay, so she has a tree that's behind her window, Right. Or is there a tree that. In her bedroom?

Yes.

Okay, hold on. I'm actually talking to the tree. There's a light that makes her scared.

So there's a light that goes on that might be a trigger, like one of those lights that if something goes by it, she might get the reflection of it. And that's what wakes her up.

Oh, yes. My husband put those Lights out. So, yes.

Even though it's for her protection.

Right.

I. What I'm receiving is that it's something that is. That's what's triggering her. The light is triggering her waking up. I was looking at, like, tree.

Are you hitting the window? What are you doing? No, it's not me. It's the light. But they're very excited for it because she also.

I don't know, what did she start doing two years ago? I know.

That's just.

She's 10, you know, she's always been.

Like a shy and reserved child, so I feel like she's coming out of her shell a bit.

That's what they're excited about. They're very excited about that. And is there anything with changing schools?

Yes.

Okay, hold on. It's so sweet. You already know what's going to go, but you're letting her make the decision, and it's going to be the right decision. And it's.

And it's. It'll be challenging at first, but it's really. It's gonna be so much better for her in the long run.

Yeah, that does make sense.

So that's the other thing. I do so much with my work, but I call myself an intuitive because then the universe gets. Gets to give me a lot more.

Right.

Because if I just say that I'm a medium, then that only references me talking. The universe just lets you have whatever it is that you vacillate on. But yet I'm really good.

Like, I love in helping women find their own power, men and women. And I love. I do love the other side, but I'm really good at finding missing people. I'm really. That's easy for me.

Crime work is easy, but it's not necessarily what I'm passionate about. Go figure. But anyways, so you didn't even ask me that question. I just went straight into it. But what questions do you have or what can I look into?

So, yeah.

Okay. Give me his first name.

Yes, his name is. He's Pakistani. His name is Amanullah.

He's on the other side, you said? No, he's still here.

No, he's actually still here.

Hold on. And you guys recently moved him, correct? Okay, yes. Someone's very happy that he was recently moved. He is so stubborn.

And what I have realized is that stubborn people actually live longer. I don't know why. He had a. Did he have a fall?

He did.

Okay.

He did. Yes.

Okay. Hold on. He's strong, though. He's not healing well, though, from the Fall love him as much as you can and how old is he?

He's 86.

You've definitely extended his life, and you've made it so much better. Don't forget that. No matter what happens.

Okay?

Just.

It's. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, it's hard just kind of seeing him go through, you know, those. I had to.

I had to watch my own parents.

Yeah. Did you. Did you have, like. Did you know that, you know what was going to happen? Came to be, or.

So my parents came home from Mexico. My dad was. He had that. I just thought it was Mama Zuma's room. Bench from Cop from Cancun, and. But I panicked. I'm.

Well, dad, you got to go to the hospital. You got to go. So he went to the hospital. They gave him some antibiotics and sent him home. And before that happened, I was.

I did a ketamine treatment where a doctor gave me. And this was. This was a long time ago. We're talking, like, 10 years ago. And my grandmother, his mom came through saying, he has cancer.

And I'm like, no, no, no, no. He was just sick. That's all he was. He was just sick, you know, in Cancun, when your mind. This is something that I've learned over and over again.

If my mind says no, I don't get shown it again unless I look for it again. Could I have saved him? Probably not. But he ended up with pancreatic cancer.

Oh, wow. Oh, gosh, I'm sorry.

Oh, it's something I was. You know, she tried to tell me when I was mad at her, and then he. My mom didn't. This was in June, I want to say, or October.

And then I get a phone call, you know, later on, like, a few months later, and she's like, your dad's not feeling well. I'm like, go to the go. Why did you wait so long? They went. And then he was literally, you know, and then I.

A few weeks later, diagnosed with stage four. And that was it. We had a month with him.

Oh, my.

It was interesting. I'm like, I wonder if we'd never told him or if they. We never found out if he would have lived longer.

You know, it's one of those things that, like, the second you say it. Yeah, there's nothing you could do.

Yeah, there's nothing you can do. And did it bring your mom and yourself, like, closer again, or was it.

Yeah, my mom was always a big fan. She thought. She's like, I'm worried about your dad. Not ever Coming to terms with what you do for work. And my mom's so funny.

She's like, we have a thousand years to repent. I'm like, okay, mom, stop being more like. They were married for 48 years.

You know, she's on the other side now, and she, you know, she had a fall that. And I was. I was the executive. I'm one of seven children, my gosh. And they put me.

And they're like, you're going to be the glue that has to get everybody together. And I'm like, why the non Mormon? Like, why. But I did. I made sure that my brothers, you know, everybody came to terms with everything. But it was.

Yeah, it's. I. That's the biggest thing is feeling like this enormous responsibility.

Are you the eldest daughter as well? Same. God, there's so much to unpack with that. It just all falls on our shoulders all the time. And, like. Right.

I feel like half the time, like, when things are going, you know, sideways, like, I can't even take time for myself to process things because I've got to, like, make sure everybody else is good. Do you kind of feel that same way? Do you feel that, too?

I do. Like, for years, every time my parents would show up, I would lose my. I would like, who's gonna die? And then they can't even.

When I get to that state in my mind, they can't even tell me hello. Like, then I start feeling freaking out if they give me anybody's picture, like, then. So it's a very, very.

I had to learn to let go and just allow them to come in because I was pushing them away. And once I did that, everything started. Like, I've realized that I can't stop the things that happen.

I can try, but that was one of the worst things that, you know, I've helped people. I've saved people's lives. Like, you have cancer, but. But they're going to figure you need to get in there.

And the fact that I can do it with my own dad, you know, is just. It's something that I've just had to learn to be okay with. And just because otherwise they could just take me down.

Like, I have to realize this is what I told some other doctors. I'm like, you're doing way more good doing what you're doing. Stop focusing in on the, like, I. Thousands of cases.

I only remember the ones that I didn't get right or I got the wrong interpretation right.

And I think that happens to so many of us in just any Walk of life, you know, it's like we focus on the thing that didn't go our way. Yes. Why couldn't we do it this way? Why? And it's like the rumination over and over again.

And, like, I want to be able to, like, turn my focus and be able to, like, focus on the.

Once I start. So my girlfriend, she's like, you need to meditate. You need to love yourself. And I'm like, fuck you. I was so angry at her, totally.

But she's like, you don't. I'm like, I'm in the delta state, which they've done brain scans. I'm in the delta state why I'm doing this work, which is the.

Which is the state that they put people in that have com. Like when they have severe brain trauma, they put them into comas to get them into this state, the dreamless state. And I'm like.

I'm in that all day at work. I don't need to do. You know, I don't. And she's. She's like, no, you need to. And we went to Dr. Joe Dispenza, four of us. And it changed my whole life.

And so when you talk about that, it gave me grace. And I realized I'm like, I've never done this for myself. And I had to unlearn. I had to unlearn.

And the more that I unlearned, the more was given to me, the more things can. Like, I realize for myself, in order to do the work that I do and not take it on, that there's an equalizer out there.

And I'm not in charge of who dies. I'm not in charge of who gets put in jail. I'm not in charge of. I'm in charge of just giving the information and letting the universe take care of it.

And just know that there's an equalizer out there. God, don't get caught up on semantics. It helped me tremendously.

So that was your game changer.

Game changer. It changed everything. And now I don't. I, you know, I deal. People could not spend five minutes in my head with the things that I have to deal with.

I mean, is it like you're just walking down the street and somebody passes you by half the time and you start getting, like, intuition and. Or is it like one of the things.

I have so many people that are alive that pop into my head, and then I'm like, okay, what? Wait, where is that? You know? And if I. My. One of my kids start pop, I'm like, oh, my gosh. What's. I'm like, can you hold on a second?

I need to call them. And it's always something, but yet more life. People pop into my head than even people. But it's a free fall.

When I go down to the beach, my meditation, though no one does, there's something that they've done. My guides, my angelic, you know, what did I call them? My angelic gangsters. Because they make me mad sometimes.

They make sure that that's my time, and so it's just for me. But when I'm down at the beach, if I open it up all everyone. I'm like a magnet for all the dead people I've talked to that are, like, around me.

You're like, all of a sudden, it's a party in my.

Okay. But no, I don't. Sometimes there's times where I'm like, ooh, ooh. That did not. That's not good. You know?

So are there times when you find yourself holding yourself back, like you don't want to tell people things that come up? Yes. Okay.

Yes.

Yes. It's like, you just can't let that.

Sometimes people that know me know. Words carry weight, right? And so I'm very, very, very careful about what I say and without diminishing what I'm supposed to say, right?

So if I get information, like, oh, somebody's parent is this or that, or like, I, I, I can give it in a way, just like I talked to you earlier, where they're like, just say, you know, she had a dream last night. You know, I ask him, like, okay, how. What should I say? And I usually get the information, what I should say.

I mean, it's, it's absolutely amazing that you have this gift, you know, and that you're able, you're able to give people peace too. I feel like a lot of the time, you know, it's like, I think it's.

I realize that we're. Because we're all connected. If I can see healing or if I, I'm just the facilitator that it comes through.

I don't heal people, but I get them connected to where they are healed, where they're already connected to it, because everybody has that intelligence to heal themselves too, along with doctors and along with, you know, people that work side by side with people. I'm not saying to negate that or to get rid of Western medicine by any means, but we are. That's one thing that Dr. Joe believes in.

He's just like, we're meant to heal.

Ourselves, and that's through different modalities, through food, through.

Yeah, this is our. This is the only one. We have our body. And that's the other thing. Love your body. Our body's a computer that takes in every.

Absolutely every single thing you tell it. We might forget what we tell it, but it does not. It holds.

Okay, so what advice would you give midlife women who are going through a lot of. You know, there's biological changes, there are changes in friendships, relationships. Kids are getting older.

You know, maybe they're going through a divorce.

Like, find your passion and don't think it's gonna come right away. Your passion could be a lifelong thing to find, which is. That's exactly what it's about.

It's gonna change what you believe in today could change tomorrow, and what you like today changes, you know, and my advice would be, give yourself some grace. Be and love yourself. If you want to be loved, love yourself. That is the. Probably the. The biggest thing. And then talk to yourself differently.

Like, okay, universe, you know how we always say, like, hey, you know, if whatever it is you want, you have to give it away or whatever it is, you have to feel like it is happening right now.

I take it a step further, and I would say, like, if you want a relationship, say, okay, universe, thank you for making the connections and helping me find the person that's already madly in love with me. Because there is somebody madly in love with you. There is no past, present, future if you.

Whenever I get shown information, I have to weave through and figure out if it was the past or the future, it shows up in the same spot. So in the universe, the best way I can explain it, talk to yourself, whatever your future self. Like, talk to as your future self.

Like, okay, thank you, universe, for giving me the person that is madly obsessed with me in the right ways. You could take that with your work. Thank you for connecting me to the people that. That love this work, you know?

And, you know, I said that one day, and then you asked to see for me to come on your podcast, and I didn't even know that we met before.

It's crazy how it works, you know, like how the universe works. And I think, too, it's like the inner monologue in our heads are. Is so powerful. Have a good loop.

Don't have a fucking. Don't have a loop that you have no control over. And that's the other thing. I had to completely let go of everything I thought I had control over.

Like, that's Crazy that I thought I have. I have control over who dies and who doesn't die.

Well, you kind of do. I mean, you could let them know. You're like, maybe you shouldn't take that trip next week.

I have families that call me, should I get on that plane? Really? It's usually because they've had someone that has died on a plane.

Okay, so do you ever say, no, don't get on the plane.

I have. Or somebody's. Somebody's gonna be held up because their passport is. You know, and sure enough that I'm like.

I'm like, make sure you get to the airport. There's gonna be. You know, you're in Europe. I'm seeing there's a delay, and you're barely gonna make your flight.

Do not miss your flight because you're gonna be there for two days. And it happens. And they're like, oh, my God, they get so mad. But I try. I look for things, you know, that's. That's easy.

And I get asked that all the time. And that was something with the kids, you know, I'm like, you know, I tell my daughter, I'm like, please don't go.

I'm like, and she knew, like, she was a junior. She's like, okay. And sure. I'm like. And I looked to see him, like, should she be there? Is she gonna save somebody's life by being there? Like, what?

And I'm like, no, she's gonna be associated the people that are, you know. And sure enough, somebody drank too much and they had to take her to the hospital, but because she was.

Was, you know, I'm just like, please just don't be a part tonight. But I always look to see Mike. Maybe she should be there, because maybe she's going to be the one that.

Right?

You know, Mike told them to not take anybody else's drink. She tried telling him, you know.

And do they listen to you, the kids, when you tell them these things? Like, my son, they're like, we're not going to fuck with.

Not so much my daughter. She's like, okay. You know, when she says. She's like, how did I do on my test? I'll look into it. And then I'll like. Or what should I study for?

And I'm like, whatever you studied for two weeks ago, you need to redo. Like, you need. And so she'll get things. It's not. You know, instead of telling me about her test, I'm like, oh, my gosh, you scored really well.

And then she'll get the test results.

That's amazing. Like, you're like, okay, you need to go back and, like, really focus on this.

I have no. Because she. She mapped out her freshman year. She had calculus for her first math class in college at Cal Poly. Slow. Yeah.

She's an aerospace engineer, and she's working it. I'm so. I'm very proud of her. And. And my son's at Berkeley. Philosophy, so.

Well, your work, I mean, speaks for itself. It's absolutely amazing. And so much so that your good friend Jessica Alba is doing a show about this. I mean, so tell me about that. Can you.

What can you tell us?

We're creating a show right now about my life, having somebody play me. So at Joe. Our first Joe Dispense, she's the one that dragged me to meditation. So at our first retreat, she's the one I. Three bats went.

I'll say real fast. Three bats went by my head at the beach in Cancun. And I'm like, knock it off, Eddie. And like, who's Eddie?

And he was somebody that passed away from a family that I love and adore. He was murdered, and his sign was bats. And they're like.

And we started talking about it, and then we started talking about all these cases, like, we got to do a show about this. I'm like, they can't do it. They can't follow me. It's. I never thought about it being scripted. And so we're in the process of that.

But she's just like, your life is already crazy to begin with. And all these cases that you've worked on with the. She's like, this needs to be a show. We're going to make this a show. So that's what we're doing.

Okay, so have you cast. Who's going to play you yet?

We're in the process.

Is there, like, a dream list? Like a dream list you have?

Those are the things I can't look into. Like, I've. I've let it go.

People are like, you know, they have their own list that they're thinking about, but it depends on what age they're going to have me. Like, some people are interested in me.

They're going to make it to where I'm divorced or younger, you know, but I've been married for 25 years this year with two kids. But they don't want to make it identical to my life, which is absolutely what I. It's. But the stuff that I do will be. But they.

Let's have her in the dating realm. How much fun would that be?

And I'm like, that's super fun. So you could be, like, having the time of your life out there dating those cute guys.

But yes.

Oh, my God. Yeah. When you're dating, you probably got intuitions of these guys that. So did that change how you dated? Like, was that the difference?

I didn't know what I had back then. You know, I knew their codes. I always knew when they were lying. But to prove it is a whole different story.

Story. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's. That's interesting. That's actually a gift when you're dating, especially in Los Angeles.

So did you ever think that your life would be a scripted series like this?

Is that so? No, I never.

You know, I am so grateful I get to do what I do, but I know that wasn't something that I ever like, oh, there's going to be somebody that's going to play me. That's amazing.

So what does the future look like for you other than the show? Like, what.

What.

What is.

Jennifer, I would love to. My dream is to go to wineries all over the world and do wine and spirits.

It's perfect. And that's the name of the show, too, right?

Because with translators. Because the information comes to me in English.

So I've had Japanese families that come to me that have their translator, and we go through the translator, but I get their relatives that are over on the other side that never spoke English. I get English. And so I'm able to still give every. And that's with every country.

Oh, interesting. So the ones on the other side will speak and will give you English.

Yeah.

Oh, that's interesting. So they kind of already know. They're like, we better speak in English.

That way because it's not talking. They project their feelings and thoughts, and so that's what I give them.

Oh, so it's not actually them speaking.

No.

Okay.

Dreams. If you ever watch your dream state, no one ever talks.

Okay, that's.

Yeah.

You don't see people's, like, mouths moving and interesting. So it's really their thoughts. So what do you think about signs? Do you think about, like, you know, the butterfly or the feather?

Like, is that somebody that's passed? I mean, it is real.

It is definitely real. I mean, I was sent flowers that had a blue butterfly and a pink one. And it.

To me, it just hit me like it was my parents because they're both gone and they're. They were fake butterflies that my cat tore down. My black cat, of course, of course. Of course.

And it was just, you know, so even if they're not in the sky, there's still some. Like, I didn't think that way, but I started crying seeing them. For some reason, it really hit me. And they. They're constantly trying.

So it's all energy over there. So they manipulate energy here.

They don't become the bird or the butterflies, but they put your awareness towards it and they do everything they can to get your attention. So numbers come in. Every time I see a 71, that's my birth date. That's also the age that my dad passed. You know, it means a lot to me.

I know my dad's around, and so, you know, and I never look at anything that doesn't say it. It's very, very interesting. You know, some people see 11.

11.

That means that you're. Somebody from the other side is telling you that you're on the. You're on the right path.

So we need to get more in tune with looking for signs.

Right? Like, it's magical. Okay, Ask for signs, you know, And I'm such a dick about it, too. I'm like, oh, well, okay, so there's 10 dolphins, but whatever.

Like, I want something else. Okay, two more butterflies. Okay, well, one more for good luck. I want a rainbow.

So does heaven exist then?

Do you think heaven is within us? All my information that I ever get, or I'm sorry I ever receive, it's always from within. It's never anything outside.

I see people, I see spirits, but every piece of information is electrically put within me.

Interesting. So it's already within.

You have everything. It's within us. Heaven's not anything outside of us.

Right? Because you have this image of it being, like, you know, in the sky.

And, you know, oh, no.

Okay, so it's within us.

It's within us. Our heart is literally a cell phone to our loved ones. And we have a frequency that is like nobody else's.

Everyone has their own individual light, and they hear it instantly. We are that connected. And the more that you talk to your loved ones, the more that they will. You will feel them.

Mind you, it's not because they haven't been there. It's because your mind, your filters are coming down. They've always been there. Like, there's times at night I put my hand up and I can't see it.

That's how thick the energy is. And I'm just like, you guys, I need to go to bed. I need to go to sleep. And then because my mind says that they don't leave.

But my mind says that and I go to sleep. Your mind is so powerful. So if you believe that you can't see them, then you won't. I was shown dead people when I was growing up because.

And I asked to get my, you know, glasses. I was shown that because I wouldn't have believed in it later. But that made me start investigating. I had no idea what I was seeing.

Wow, that's so fascinating. How does it make you feel about death?

Death is just it. I don't want to make it sound like, are you afraid of death? Not at all. I would be very sad not to see grandkids or see my kids later on.

I feel like this is just. It literally is a game. We are. It's a game. And when you know that you want to be the best of the game and it has nothing to do with what you get.

Has to do with. Did you do enough with your kids? Did you make them your prayer, like, or your friends, like, who, who have you helped? Like Tuesdays with?

Maury, like the, you know, or the five people you meet and haven't been much out. Like, it truly is like that. But it's a game. Like there's something about it. When you get out, you're like, your loved ones don't leave you.

They're all within you. And when you realize that, you're able to access so much more.

Yeah. You can really tap into everyone. I mean, you can see. Yeah, that's. That's powerful. That's really powerful.

Okay, so how actually, what advice would you give your 25 year old self?

Shut up. You're exhausting. I mean, I would love that little girl that was a triathlete, a stockbroker that was so insecure.

I would just say, babe, you're going to do great things. You already are. Stop caring about xyz. Everything always works out. It always works out. And slow down, slow down. Smell those flowers.

Talk to those people. Yeah. Slow down.

Be present. Right.

Present. That's. Yeah.

If somebody said recently, like if you took your phone, like if you treated your spouse like you do your phone, taking it everywhere, looking at it, ruminating over it, like, if you treat your spouse like you do your phone, your marriage will last.

Right, right, right.

It's true.

It's so true. And how are you living iconically right now?

Saying yes. Saying yes. Getting out of my comfort zone and writing about it. Writing about it, yes.

I've been also watching your social media.

I love the little medium, the videos.

Yes.

The medium I started. So I started that because I.

When I'm done, after seven hours of being in this, with all the, with the challenging content that I deal with, I'm like, there's so many great nuggets that I won't remember. Right. And so that's why it was almost like just a diary for myself. And then someone liked it.

And so I'm like, what could I say that's going to help people? And there's usually algorithms throughout the day. And I'm like, oh, okay, this is something that I learned.

I learned something every day and I love it.

And that's what you should always continue to learn. Right? Like always learning, always. Right? You just have to keep. Keep going, keep going and doing the thing.

Well, Jennifer, thank you so much for coming on the Iconic Midlife. You're absolutely amazing. Everybody should follow Jennifer.

And I mean, she just has the best, not only the best advice, but, but she's just, she's like, you're like a superwoman.

You're.

You've got all the superpowers. So Jennifer, will you tell everybody where they can find you?

Um, Instagram is Jennifer M. Shafer. S H A F F E R. You can also just go to my website, Jennifer Schaefer dot com. So J E N N I F E R S H A F F.

E R and do we have a release date for the show? Do we know?

We do not know.

Okay.

No, it's a forever process, right?

It totally. Welcome to Hollywood.

Right?

It's, it's.

Yeah.

Takes a minute.

Yes.

Um, well, we'll definitely be on the lookout for that, but thank you so much for joining the Iconic Midlife.

Thanks for having me.

Jennifer, thank you so much for joining me today.

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