In this episode, we're talking to Melanie Herschorn who shares her wealth of knowledge on book marketing and shares tips on how to share your message to make a big impact with your book.
If you ever considered writing a book to further your business success, that can help bring in new leads and sales, then don't miss this episode.
Melanie Herschorn wants to make your book and brand shine. As a nonfiction and children's book marketing strategist for authors, coaches, consultants, and speakers worldwide, she’s on a mission to support and empower her clients to build a business with their book as the foundation and to help them share their message with the world.
Using her unique combination of entrepreneurship, award-winning journalism and PR experience, Melanie guides her clients to create brand awareness, sell books, and position themselves as subject matter experts so they can make a big impact with their book.
She also loves to provide book marketing tips and interview authors on her Youtube show, AUTHORity Marketing LIVE!
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The onus is on you as the author to be your best marketer.
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:So maybe you're not the one
setting up your own Facebook page.
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:Maybe you have a virtual assistant
or a team who's doing it.
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:But the general stuff is still the same.
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:You still need a strategy that's going
to help sell books and, sell programs
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:and get you on stages, whether, you
were traditionally published or not.
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:Holly Ostara: Welcome to the dream season,
a podcast for entrepreneurs, writers,
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season of your dreams.
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:Hey everybody, welcome
back to the Dream Season.
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:Today I'm talking to Melanie Herschorn.
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:And Melanie wants to make
your book and brand shine.
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:As a nonfiction and children's book
marketing strategist for authors, coaches,
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:consultants, and speakers worldwide,
she's on a mission to support and empower
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:her clients to build a business with
their book as the foundation, and to help
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:them share their message with the world.
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:Using her unique combination of
entrepreneurship, award winning
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:journalism, and PR experience,
Melanie guides her clients to create
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:brand awareness, sell books, and
position themselves as subject
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:matter experts so that they can
make a big impact with their book.
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:She also loves to provide book marketing
tips and interview authors on her
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:YouTube show, Authority Marketing Live.
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:Melanie, it's so good to have you today.
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:Welcome.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Thank you.
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:I'm so excited to be here.
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:Holly Ostara: I am so excited
to talk to you because we work
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:in such a complimentary field.
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:So I help people write their books.
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:You help people make
money from their books.
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:And this is so important, especially
for our creative women entrepreneurs who
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:really want to be able to stand out in
a crowded market and build their brand
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:authority and build their legitimacy and
authority with their clients and have
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:clients coming to them instead of having
to go knock on their client's doors.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Exactly.
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:And what's interesting is like, sometimes
people think, well, if I write a book,
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:you know, that's really going to, that's
going to change, change everything for me.
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:Right.
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:But you have to also market it
for that to make a difference.
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:Holly Ostara: Yeah.
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:A book is a product and you
can't just throw any product up
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:on the shelves and expect it to
just make millions of dollars.
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:Even Procter and Gamble
market their Tide Pods.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Exactly.
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:A little too well, though, because
we know what happened with that.
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:Holly Ostara: Oh yeah, I know.
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:All the TikTok videos.
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:Those poor kids.
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:Um, hopefully we've all learned
a valuable lesson not to do
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:challenges on social media from that.
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:But social media is very important
for authors, so tell me how you work
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:with authors to market their book.
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:Tell me, kind of the guidance you
give them and, and what you find
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:is really important for authors who
want to make money from their books.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Okay, so I am
a, a very, you know, an overloaded
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:mom, so I might need you to repeat
some of those questions as we go,
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:but, I'm going to start with,
with the first one is how I help.
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:So how I help authors is by
really, looking at their books
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:and going, okay, what's my mission?
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:How can I take This book and
share it with the world in a way
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:that is going to make an impact.
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:How can I take this book and
build a business with it?
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:You know, create new
revenue streams from it.
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:And how can I leverage other
people's audiences and other people's
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:platforms to really get my book
and my mission out in the world.
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:And so the way I do that is in a program
that I have called the impactful author.
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:And I also do it in one on one.
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:And now ask me the other
questions because I've already.
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:Holly Ostara: No worries.
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:, I also have mom brain funk, so I
totally don't blame you for that.
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:I would love to know how you
work with your clients and how
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:you guide them towards making
more money with their books.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Okay.
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:So, oh, and also aside from mom brain, I
have my kitten who just had surgery and
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:she knocked the cone of shame off her
neck and I'm watching her to make sure
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:she doesn't do things with her scar.
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:So, yes.
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:So how I guide authors is by
really going deep on their book.
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:First, we take a look at
what's inside, you know, what's
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:What makes your book different?
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:What makes you different?
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:How can we position you as somebody
offering something special to the world?
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:Because every author has
something special to offer.
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:The only thing that stops us
is our mindset problems, , and
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:I'm guilty of those too.
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:So once we really establish, your
message, then it's about establishing
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:you as an authority, as a thought leader.
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:And how do you do that?
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:Well, first of all, it's
with your messaging.
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:And it's with growing a community
of people that are interested
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:in what you have to offer.
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:And it's also about, leveraging
other people's audiences, speaking
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:on other people's podcasts like
this one, or, or speaking in summits
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:or, you know, speaking to groups.
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:And also about building
credibility, like how about getting
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:some book reviews on Amazon?
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:How about doing that?
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:Because a lot of people, they're
like, well, it's up on Amazon.
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:But the truth is.
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:Would you buy a book that
didn't have any reviews?
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:Probably not, unless it was
your best friend's book, right?
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:Holly Ostara: Never.
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:Yeah, I would never.
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:And I'm an author of four books
that have been published, and
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:getting reviews is tough sometimes.
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:It's like pulling teeth.
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:Melanie Herschorn: It's
absolutely like that.
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:It might be more painful because you
are asking for something and you're
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:not asking, it's not like somebody
did something for you and then
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:you're asking for a favor in return.
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:It's like you're saying, you
know, Hey, can you do me a favor?
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:But the thing that you have to remember
is that keep your mission in mind
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:whenever you are asking for reviews.
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:And.
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:Let people know that you're not asking for
reviews because you have an ego problem.
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:You're asking for reviews because you want
to make a bigger impact with your book.
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:And your mission.
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:And your passion.
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:And you can't do that.
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:If people don't know about your book.
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:So when you think of it like the bigger
picture, that can sometimes be an easier
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:way to approach the emails that you
have to send every three days to the
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:same person until they finally do it.
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:Holly Ostara: Yeah, yeah, my business
coach, she always says selling is
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:helping and that is something that's
really stuck with me because selling
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:can feel so cringy, asking people
to do something can feel so cringy
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:and so uncomfortable and so scary.
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:And if you just keep reminding
yourself that somebody out there
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:needs your book, somebody out
there wants to read your book.
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:They just don't know it exists yet,
and by selling it to them, by marketing
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:it, by making sure it's visible, you're
helping them find it, and you're helping
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:them solve a problem that they have.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Absolutely, and
a book is not a high ticket item.
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:You know, you go to the store, and
you're in line, , like at Forever
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:21, for example, where they have all
that really sparkly stuff, and like,
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:I can never resist, and you drop 19.
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:So, it's, it's like...
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:You're not asking for them to, to
give away their firstborn child.
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:You're just asking for them to
support you in a mission that
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:they can probably get behind.
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:Holly Ostara: Mm hmm.
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:And benefit from too.
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:So when I work with authors, I find
that a lot of authors at first think
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:I want to be traditionally published.
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:I want to get a book deal because I don't
want to have to do the marketing myself.
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:And they're scared of marketing.
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:They want to get some publisher to
buy their book so that the publisher
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:And that's just not true anymore.
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:Melanie Herschorn: No,
it's not true at all.
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:I agree.
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:Holly Ostara: Yeah.
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:Do you find that people come to you
who have been traditionally published
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:and they have different desires or
expectations about how marketing should
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:work than indie published authors, or
how do you respond to these differently?
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:How do you work with them differently?
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:Melanie Herschorn: You
know, the work is the same.
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:The way I work with them is the same
because whether you wrote a children's
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:book about animals that help people
or you wrote the next best leadership
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:book, whether you were traditionally
published or you created your own
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:imprint, the marketing still is on you.
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:The onus is on you as the
author to be your best marketer.
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:So maybe you're not the one
setting up your own Facebook page.
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:Maybe you have a virtual assistant
or a team who's doing it.
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:But the general stuff is still the same.
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:You still need a strategy that's going
to help sell books and, , sell programs
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:and get you on stages, whether, you
were traditionally published or not.
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:Now, sometimes, those who are
traditionally published, you have
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:an adamant that they don't want to
be a, they don't want to work with a
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:hybrid publisher, they don't want to
work with a self publisher, has to be
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:traditionally published, that's fine.
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:A lot of times they will say, well,
you know, I don't need marketing.
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:I just need someone to do it for me.
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:Or I just need a publicist.
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:That's all.
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:But the truth is, and I hear this
from publicists, it's that if they
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:don't have marketing set up already,
a publicist , however great they are
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:at their job, they still can't do
what you're hoping that they can do
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:I'll give you an example.
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:There was a woman I met once who had
hired a publicist, for her book.
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:She had been on 18 different, you know,
the publicist had done a great job.
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:They'd gotten her on like
18 different media outlets,
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:And when she got to me, , we
were talking and I said, so, so
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:how many books have you sold?
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:And she said, a hundred.
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:Holly Ostara: Oh my gosh.
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:Melanie Herschorn: And yeah, and
if you don't know if a hundred is
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:It's like not a lot at all.
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:You could probably sell
that to your cousins.
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:If you have enough cousins, so when
I went to her website to kind of
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:Melanie, what's going on, and it turns
out that the messaging was the issue.
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:I went to her website.
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:I had no idea what she did.
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:I was not surprised at all.
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:That she wasn't selling books
because , yeah, you might see this
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:person on, , the today show, but then
you go to their website and you're
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:like, I don't know what that says, you
know, it takes like sometimes like 20
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:touch points to get to make a sale.
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:So if they get to your website and
they don't know what you're selling
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:or they get to your Facebook page
and you have, , pictures of your cat,
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:and then they go to your Instagram
and there's last night's dinner.
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:They're not going to stick around.
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:So, whether you are traditionally
published or not, , you need
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:that coherent, cohesive look
and feel to your brand, and you
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:Holly Ostara: It makes me wonder
if this woman when she got on the
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:Today Show or wherever she was on
national media, did her marketing
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:affect her because she actually didn't
know how to talk about her book.
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:I wonder if those opportunities
were lost opportunities.
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:Melanie Herschorn: Very likely.
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:I mean, it's also possible that
the publicist had written something
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:I don't know, I can't speak to that,
but what I can say is that she only
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:Holly Ostara: Well, what does success
look like for you and your authors?
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:Melanie Herschorn: Ooh, that's a good one.
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:So, a lot of people will come to me and be
like, Well, how many books should I sell?
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:How will I know when I've made it?
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:The truth is, it's
different for everybody.
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:, some people, their idea of success
is creating a podcast based on
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:Some people, their idea of success is
having like 5, 000 Instagram followers.
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:But my idea of success is when the
client or the author looks backwards.
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:And sees how far they've come, because
it's, it's a slow progression, you
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:It's a marathon.
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:It is not a sprint.
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:And it's something that
you have to do regularly.
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:You can't just expect
it to happen overnight.
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:I often call consistency is the
granny panties of marketing because
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:it's so unsexy, but you have to do it.
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:So you have to wear them.
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:So you got to wear
underwear every day, guys.
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:So , it's important to
just keep looking forward.
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:Sometimes look back to see how
far you've come and keep going.
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:So what is success?
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:I would have to ask, what
is their idea of success?
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:Is it that, they're being asked...
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:To speak on stages because that
happens, you know, , I had a
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business, but he wrote a book so
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:And he had only ever looked
at people's posts on LinkedIn.
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:He'd never made one of his own.
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:, we designed an outreach strategy and
within a week he was getting , DMs
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:from people on LinkedIn saying, Hey,
I need you to come speak at my group.
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:We'll buy 300 copies of
your book and we'll pay you.
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:So, that success, because
that's making an impact.
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:That's leveraging other
people's audiences.
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:So, I, that was kind of like
a answer, but not an answer.
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:Holly Ostara: Well, it's one of those
tricky questions that doesn't really
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said, it's different for everybody.
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:And here's another question that
may not have an answer, because it's
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:probably going to be different for
everybody, but in your experience, how
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:long does it take before a book really,
can take off, or has that opportunity
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:become successful for the author?
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:Melanie Herschorn: I think it's
along the same lines, right?
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:What do you consider to be success?
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:, I have a client who her second book just,
dropped, and she had 800 pre orders.
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that means 800 people want to read
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I think when we think about taking off
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national morning show or on the Kelly
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:Clarkson show or something like that
but if your book is about You know
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and it's it's like a really niche down
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:target audience Then, , you could be
on a show with millions of people, but
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group just for, , people who, who care
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:about their health and they're under
five feet, then that is going to be a
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off is if they all buy your book.
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involved and it, as you said,
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woman with a message, method, or
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if only more people knew of it?
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:So melanie, how soon should an author
start working on their book marketing?
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:Melanie Herschorn: Is
yesterday a good answer?
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idea in their head, they should start
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to say, Oh, my forthcoming book
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your mission, sharing your passion,
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marketing, you know, really start focusing
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out, six months before you publish.
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hard on your book and then you're
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like, oh no, I didn't market it yet.
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a year ago and they realized that
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know what to do and then they go, oh.
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know, it's time for a second edition.
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the better, but again, I don't
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can be really stressful.
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it's good to have a guide, , somebody
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who can really make it less scary
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:Holly Ostara: Yeah and it can be
really scary for a lot of authors.
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:So for folks who are writing nonfiction
in particular, could you tell me why a
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particular, they're likely writing it to
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least the type of nonfiction authors that
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it to grow their business in some way.
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great investment for, , somebody
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to grow their, their business?
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:Melanie Herschorn: Well, a book
would not be a great investment if
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you write a book about horses
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wonderful, but that's not going to
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thinking about when should I
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a proprietary system in place.
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and it works really well.
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could help more people.
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not everybody can pay you, you know,
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really help because then you can
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give away everything.
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do and then what's going to happen?
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and they're going to go, Oh my
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else she's got out there.
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looking around and they're
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it's 300, not 20 grand.
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a, it's a great introduction.
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and how you help, , in a way
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the other piece of that is not
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:It's still really cool when you
talk to somebody and they're
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:I even still find it cool
and I only work with authors.
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:You know, it's, it's, it's really
cool because not everybody's
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:So when you have that stick to it
iveness, um, that's also, you know,
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:Holly Ostara: Yeah, it really shows that
you are a committed person who follows
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mind to, which can be very, , inspiring
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:Melanie Herschorn: That is true.
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:Holly Ostara: So what else can you do
to build a business with your book?
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:Melanie Herschorn: Well, you could create
something that goes along with your book.
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:So we mentioned courses, you know, if
you're a children's book author, you can
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and sell that and package it together.
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you have the podcast itself, but
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:you have extra stuff behind a
paywall, you can get paid to speak.
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:You can have corporate sponsorships
where, , let's say you're an expert
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that is something that this one
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speak, and I would love for you to buy my
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author, it's like, who's going to want
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kind of, it's a leap of faith almost.
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you start reading like, oh, this is good.
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:Holly Ostara: Confidence
is really important.
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I don't do too many anymore, but
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one of the things that I was often
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are creating a business out of this.
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want to be a full time author, and that
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they found a little bit scary.
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motivational, because it gives
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five, six hours every day, and write
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marketing is similar to that,
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like go viral on BookTok.
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but you still have to do it.
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through those difficult times
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virtual assistant who's going to do the
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all ready to go so you're not the one
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you remember why you're doing it and, and
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just picking up a book that I produced.
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you're holding your hand and
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give yourself grace, obviously, because,
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you don't have to be on social
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social media is where you sell,
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more about building awareness.
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say, well, I posted this on Instagram
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kind of thing happens.
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and then somebody joined my newsletter.
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a break and then start up again,
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this, this, I actually have yet to run
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somebody who's been doing all the things,
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posting there, and then it's not working.
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of have to go back to the beginning.
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to the right people is what you're
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don't know what you're talking about?
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language that they are literally
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it's not interesting anymore?
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middle of the fall season.
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how does book marketing change
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all, and what could our authors do?
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make the most of their book marketing.
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book marketing is my favorite season
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colors, unless you're in Phoenix
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got the, , excitement of Halloween,
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likes to dress up and go to parties.
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of, of, , Christmas and Hanukkah
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tie your marketing to.
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clients, Christina, she's got,
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for Halloween coming out.
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Halloween for parents to download.
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about leadership, , how do you
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to be scary, right?
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it a lot less scary.
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goblins in your closet, or whatever.
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books that come out in the fall.
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in the summer because they want like a
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people are just away in the summertime.
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to really market your book and to
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in advance of, , Christmas gifts
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gift for someone during the holidays.
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:Holly Ostara: you are actually making
me really excited to market my upcoming
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writing it, but you're making
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well, I don't want to say a necessary
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that, but that's how I felt.
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have a book coming out too.
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it's your own book.
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children have no shoes kind of
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Your Book, Author Marketing Strategies
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for nonfiction authors and children's
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can make a big impact with their book
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the things that we've been talking about
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a wider audience and help people who may
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we link it in the show notes, everybody.
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book, I'll have the link there.
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like to share with any budding authors?
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general, just any tip at all.
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it towards book marketing or not.
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narrow it down to just one.
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book marketing, because otherwise
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that your words matter.
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your book, they matter.
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somebody in some way.
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expect it, you know, sometimes if you're
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pop up on Amazon where somebody says,
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what's going to keep you going.
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your words really matter.
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:Holly Ostara: That's so important.
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out there who think, I'm not a
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talk, and your words matter.
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that they are grateful for this week.
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because I always sort of took a step
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to say maybe would make a difference.
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authors because I give them my guidance.
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having that opportunity.
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:Holly Ostara: That is really special,
and I am sure that your authors are
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:Melanie Herschorn: Thank you.
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:Holly Ostara: Well, where can
everybody find you online, Melanie?
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website, VIPbookmarketing.
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of person, then I am there.
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there and I'm on YouTube.
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because I practice what I preach about
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:Holly Ostara: I love that.
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that I especially need to.
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have a couple that are different.
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you came on to chat with us
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:Melanie Herschorn: Thank you.
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:Holly Ostara: Thank you so
much for listening to this
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