Can a train wreck turn into a beautiful journey and a deep connection?

Yes and today, I share just how that happened for me!

Meet soul sister and Jedi Master, Beck Nelson.

You will be amazed at her super powers!

Becc Nelson, LMFT is a spiritual, soulful, heart centered healer, speaker and author who has been serving as an expert in transformation and ascension since 1992.

 With a master’s degree in human development, and as licensed marriage & family therapist Becc has the wisdom and knowledge to assist her clients in healing of mind, body and spirit. 

Becc’s work as a psychic medium, ordained minister and angel communicator provides a unique approach to healing that combines traditional approaches of therapy with intuitive guidance connecting you with the most elevated version of yourself and the highest connection with your soul.

Intuition Unleashed Podcast (A Revolution in Personal Liberation)

https://beccnelson.com/podcast/

Program: Beccology™️

is a simple three-part model for flipping your life from being a constant giver to have deeper connections that give back the energy and attention you put into them, and achieve a feeling of mutual respect and trust. (Without Feeling Guilty, Undeserving, Or Needy.)

Book and Journal available on Amazon:

"Cut The Shit: Reframe Your Thinking, Regain Your Life"

Connect with Becc:

https://www.facebook.com/BeccNelsonLMFT/ 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/beccnelson/ 

https://www.instagram.com/beccnelson/

About the Host:

 

Isabel Alexander

Your Next Business Strategist and Transformation Catalyst

 Isabel Alexander's journey from modest beginnings to global recognition epitomizes entrepreneurial resilience and innovation. With over five decades of experience spanning diverse industries, she has become a driving force in shaping economic landscapes worldwide. Noteworthy accomplishments include founding a multimillion-dollar global chemical wholesale business and earning accolades such as Canada's Top 100 Most Powerful Women.

As a mentor and advocate, Isabel empowers women entrepreneurs through initiatives like the Lift As You Climb Movement and podcasts, guiding them from startup to maturity. Serving as Chief Encore Officer of The Encore Catalyst, she dedicates herself to coaching and educating emerging entrepreneurs. Her involvement in organizations like RenegadesReinventing.com and Femme on Fire underscores her commitment to leadership and business development.

Additionally, Isabel's advisory roles with government bodies and trade associations, such as Chair of the Canadian Association of Importers & Exporters, highlight her influence in shaping trade policies and fostering international relations.

Driven by her mantra, "Lift As You Climb," Isabel embodies the ethos of mutual growth and empowerment. With dual citizenship in Canada and the United States, she values her extensive family and embraces global connections through travel and professional engagements. Isabel Alexander's narrative serves as a beacon of inspiration, illustrating how visionary leadership and strategic advising can drive global entrepreneurship and economic independence forward.

Founder:

The Encore Catalyst Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/TheEncoreCatalyst )

and

Chief Encore Officer, The Encore Catalyst (www.theencorecatalyst.com) – an accelerator for feminine wisdom, influence, and impact.

also

Author & Speaker ‘Who Am I Now? – Feminine Wisdom Unmasked Uncensored’ https://whoaminowbook.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isabelannalexander/

 

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Isabel: 00:00:06

Welcome to the Lift As You Climb podcast, where it's all about

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the journey and the joy of discovering who you are now, deciding who you want

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to become, and embracing your genuine identity, influence, and impact.

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In each episode, we'll explore how life's experiences have prepared us for what

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we choose to do next and how to create our Encore, write our own script, and

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star in the next stage of our lives.

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I'm your host, your Encore strategist, and transformation catalyst, Isabel Alexander.

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Welcome back, everyone out there traveling in our orbit in the universe, and here

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we are today, lifting and climbing with Becc Nelson, and I am thrilled

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to bring her to you today because Becc and I don't know, the universe brought

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us together earlier this year, and at first thought, honestly, I thought

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You We don't have a lot in common.

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Travel in different professional circuits, different ages, and different

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geographic and demographics, and yet I kept being drawn back to her.

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And every time we've had a conversation, it has just been Pow for me, just pow.

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And I'll share in the show notes for all of you today an episode a few

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months ago where Becc interviewed me on her podcast, and I was very excited

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to be one of her early guests when she launched her podcast, Intuition

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Unleashed, let me get that out.

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I was so excited, and you're going to have a laugh if you listen to it, I ran

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away with our whole agenda and plan.

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So if you want to listen to a runaway train, that was me that day when

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Bec was interviewing me on her show, because the sparks were just flying.

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It was like the train on the rails going fast and all that spark, that

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energy that was happening between us.

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Buckle up, buckaroos, because today The roles are reversed and I have the

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privilege of inviting Becc Nelson to my show, my podcast, and my YouTube

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channel to talk about whatever the fuck we decide we're going to talk about.

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But seriously, we're not gonna talk about good shit and I say that on purpose.

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There's a reason you'll find out.

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Stay tuned.

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There's something coming related to that.

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We're also going to talk about What's going on in your head?

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I'm really convinced if you're here today, you're supposed to be listening to us

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because there are so many of us out there in that stage of transition and wondering

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who am I and who do I want to become next?

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So without further ado, please help me welcome the infamous and very

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inspiring Becc Nelson, and her bio is going to be in the show notes and

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all that jazz, but let me just say that she comes anchored in an academic

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background of therapy and mentoring.

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Hello, Becc.

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Hello, a freight train.

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I want to go on that train.

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Let's go.

Becc: 00:04:09

Hello.

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Thank you for having me.

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I appreciate it.

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I I'm listening to you describe our time together on my show and

Becc: 00:04:16

I'm thinking, I think that train went exactly where it needed to go.

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And I was not feeling at all like it was out of control.

Becc: 00:04:23

I think it was very purposeful.

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I had fun.

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So to, to repeat that, I think we need to make more podcast episodes.

Becc: 00:04:31

We can keep having this fun.

Isabel: 00:04:32

Yes, please.

Becc: 00:04:36

Thanks for having me on here.

Isabel: 00:04:38

Thank you.

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All right.

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So it's taken us a while to get our calendars aligned because we

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are busy women getting shit done, building businesses, serving people,

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and also we are women with our own personal lives and interests

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and ambitions and health and etc.

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But here we are today.

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And in the meantime, it keeps coming up for me that The thing that is needed

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in the world most today is positive energy leveraging intuition that

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we feel in our gut and sharing the collective wisdom and more collaboration.

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And so that's why it's very exciting.

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For me, and it feels really right to talk with Becc and ask her to help me answer

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some of the questions that I'm getting from you out there and from my own social

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circle and networks and family, and they're like, how do you make a change?

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How do you transition?

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How do you trust your intuition?

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And Becc, I know you, you've got some really solid advice and

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experience in that area, so maybe give us a little, give us a lifeline.

Becc: 00:06:09

Ooh.

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The stage is mine, huh?

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The best way for me to answer that is to talk about my own personal

Becc: 00:06:14

experiences because as we know, when we go through something personally, And

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then hopefully successfully, then we can pass that information along to others.

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That's really our calling.

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And the fact that we are here helping other people means that we probably

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have been through it ourselves.

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Not because we are above everyone else, but because we've.

Becc: 00:06:35

We've walked through those reads as well.

Becc: 00:06:38

So more recently for the past 13 years, I have had a very successful

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private mental health practice.

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I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist and I had, I've been in the

Becc: 00:06:50

field for close to 30 years and 13 years ago, my husband and I started

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our own business, which I he brought me kicking and screaming through it.

Becc: 00:07:00

I really didn't want to have a private practice where we had

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other people working for us.

Becc: 00:07:04

It didn't, I didn't know if that was the right thing for me, but and a

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lot of it was probably based in fear.

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We did it at the time I was also raising our daughter actively.

Becc: 00:07:15

So I feel like the business and we had other people working for us.

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The business supported us, me personally, and us as a family

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in the way that it needed to.

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My daughter now that is an adult worked for the business.

Becc: 00:07:27

My husband at some point worked for the business, but I started to notice

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over the past 3 years that I was not.

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I had to pay attention to what was happening in me inside and probably a

Becc: 00:07:41

good three years ago, I started to pay attention to the fact that I was getting

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a little resentful, I would go to work.

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I was starting to get angry that I'd be there.

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Clients would call and I was getting, I guess it was during COVID.

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So a lot of things changed about our industry and service

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and it got very daunting.

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So it wasn't just the clients that I was feeling that way with the people that were

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working for me and not that I resented them, but I think it was my intuition

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letting me know this isn't serving you anymore and what's going on for you.

Becc: 00:08:16

So you really have to pay attention to that.

Becc: 00:08:18

If I go in and when I talk about it, I would, I, even now I can feel like this

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heaviness in my heart and in my chest.

Becc: 00:08:25

When you're paying attention to your own intuition and I'm saying I'm

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feeling resentful, I always look when people are talking to me and

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where do they put their hand when they say that, because it's probably

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where they're feeling that emotion.

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So if they're like, Oh God, it's so it might, my day is just so much okay,

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they're probably getting headaches because they're showing me that this

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is manifesting here in their head or their, or if they, are like, Oh, their

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arms are on their stomach or they're holding, they talk to me like this.

Becc: 00:08:51

It's always, where is that emotion sitting for you?

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And what is it trying to tell you?

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So I had to listen to my own intuition.

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I would go in and I'd feel this heaviness in my chest, in my heart.

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And I started to say why am I feeling like this?

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This kind of gets stuck in this.

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You should dot.

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You should just be grateful that this business has carried you.

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You should be, feeling fulfilled because you're helping people, all these things,

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and those shoulds stopped me from going in the direction that I know I

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needed to go in because I felt guilty.

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There was like a heaviness in my heart that I wasn't, you should just

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be grateful for what this has become because we, had a very successful

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business and probably helped, I'm not going to exaggerate, maybe 1, 500,

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2, 000 people over the past 13 years.

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We, yeah, we had a thriving business.

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Once COVID hit, then some things about the industry really started to change.

Becc: 00:09:48

And I knew that I needed to do something a The way we were getting

Becc: 00:09:52

paid by insurance companies, the way we were getting reimbursed.

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I was feeling.

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And that the people we were serving were feeling entitled to be

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served, not grateful to be served.

Becc: 00:10:02

So it just a number of things happened at the same time.

Becc: 00:10:06

In addition to that I had to really think about how I wanted to transform

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what I was doing because I was also being growing my spiritual practice.

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to be more mindful of intuition.

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And how do I marry these two worlds that I'm very passionate about?

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The mental health piece and relationships, et cetera, with spirituality universal

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laws guiding those guiding principles.

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So how do I marry the two of these?

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And the insurance company is not very excited about marrying.

Becc: 00:10:37

They do want you to be spiritual, but it doesn't give us the work with

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insurance companies does not give us enough room to be able to do that.

Isabel: 00:10:44

No billing code for that.

Becc: 00:10:47

Yeah, no

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CPT code for that.

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But in addition to that, I was also, a lot of things were happening that were

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making me more frustrated and making it more difficult to be in business.

Becc: 00:11:01

When I, reflecting back as the, sort of the things get a little bit tighter

Becc: 00:11:06

for you, really what it's the universe saying is, pay attention to this.

Becc: 00:11:10

Why is all this happening?

Becc: 00:11:11

Why do you, why is it that things are getting more difficult for you to do?

Becc: 00:11:16

On top of our rates were not going up, With the insurance companies, I

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was doing more integrated work and getting paid the same as somebody

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who just graduated from school.

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No matter how much experience you have.

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30 years or two years, you get paid the exact same amount.

Becc: 00:11:32

If we got raises at all from the insurance companies, it would be, 50

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cents a session, that kind of thing.

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It was just the focus of our work became daunting to me.

Becc: 00:11:45

We were losing staff, like a lot of places have lost staff during COVID

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and people, I think apps have made it.

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easier for people to start their own practice and manage their own practice.

Becc: 00:11:56

So they didn't need me to do it.

Becc: 00:11:58

So I was losing staff and not able to keep them on our, you're probably getting more

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of an answer than you were looking for.

Isabel: 00:12:04

No I I could just interject for a second and say thank you

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very much for sharing so candidly because this is two points.

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One, when you were saying, I was holding my stomach when you were talking about

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how you were feeling about your business.

Isabel: 00:12:21

So that's where my intuition goes into my gut.

Isabel: 00:12:25

And and I was relating to all of the things you were feeling.

Isabel: 00:12:29

And so do the clients that I work with.

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They have lost the joy.

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They have lost the connection with the thing, the reasons that they went into

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business in the first place, right?

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To have, to be of service, to do what they're good at what they know

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their strengths are, and to have.

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the freedom and the flexibility and to increase financial certainty.

Isabel: 00:12:56

And so all of the conditions that you talked about and I think they were

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accelerated during the pandemic, just, it just made us like have to face up

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to, Oh, this doesn't feel good for me.

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so thank you very much because we're not alone.

Isabel: 00:13:19

I've been through it.

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You've been through it.

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So many of our peers have, and it's particularly hard I think

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additionally for women entrepreneurs because we're still also fulfilling

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the other roles in our lives.

Isabel: 00:13:36

Our relationships, our family responsibilities, our community heaven

Isabel: 00:13:41

forbid we even find time not to feel guilty to get, personal care done.

Isabel: 00:13:47

This is good to let others know they're not alone.

Isabel: 00:13:53

Yeah.

Isabel: 00:13:54

Thank you.

Becc: 00:13:55

Guilt, I think, was the, probably the biggest piece because as it being in

Becc: 00:13:59

the service industry, there's this should.

Becc: 00:14:03

You should just want to help people regardless of the impact

Becc: 00:14:07

that it has on you personally.

Isabel: 00:14:11

Well,

Isabel: 00:14:13

to those that feel that way, I say, have a habit because whether you're in

Isabel: 00:14:19

a service role, whether you're in any kind of give it back, pay it forward,

Isabel: 00:14:26

lift as you climb role, you need to be, receive value and feel valued.

Isabel: 00:14:32

Otherwise, you'll run out of gifts.

Isabel: 00:14:37

The good stuff, right?

Isabel: 00:14:38

You need to be recharged refreshed, rejuvenated on a regular basis.

Isabel: 00:14:44

And for those of us that do serve.

Isabel: 00:14:49

It's the validation comes a lot from the success of our clients, right?

Isabel: 00:14:55

If they don't love you, don't appreciate you, aren't doing the work, aren't

Isabel: 00:15:00

making the changes, then it's so hard.

Isabel: 00:15:06

For sure.

Isabel: 00:15:07

Yeah.

Isabel: 00:15:08

And you've got the complexity of all the regulations associated as

Isabel: 00:15:13

a professional in your industry.

Isabel: 00:15:15

Wowzer.

Isabel: 00:15:16

Okay.

Isabel: 00:15:17

So you listened after a while to your body and your intuition, and you said,

Isabel: 00:15:29

I'm going to do something about this.

Isabel: 00:15:32

At what point did you write your book on this training?

Isabel: 00:15:37

The book came from, it came from my intuition, but I believe that it was

Isabel: 00:15:43

a step that I needed to do to get to this place that I want to be at, where

Isabel: 00:15:48

I am trying to get away from using health insurance and provide more of

Isabel: 00:15:51

a coaching model, because I needed to build authority in my field, not only as

Isabel: 00:15:59

a mental health professional, but also as a spiritual advisor, minister, etc.

Isabel: 00:16:06

The book was really written two years ago and it developed and we, it's been

Isabel: 00:16:12

published now since September of 22.

Isabel: 00:16:16

so I feel like that was a step that I need to get to the place where I am now,

Isabel: 00:16:20

which there was a lot of building that needed to happen to build that authority.

Isabel: 00:16:24

To be able to let go of what I was doing and move forward

Isabel: 00:16:27

and to be seen as authority in another area or an additional area

Isabel: 00:16:32

there again, I think it just affirms the.

Isabel: 00:16:36

The Invisible Thread Between Us, because you said the book was part of

Isabel: 00:16:41

the process for you to get from there to there, and it was the same for me

Isabel: 00:16:45

when I wrote my book when I published my book, which is Who Am I Now?

Isabel: 00:16:52

Feminine Wisdom Unmasked and Uncensored, it was part of that process for myself

Isabel: 00:16:59

of figuring out my own identity and the journey and making sense of why I

Isabel: 00:17:04

didn't even recognize myself anymore and what I needed to do about that.

Isabel: 00:17:09

And in the process, and I can tell from reading the reviews on Amazon and

Isabel: 00:17:14

everybody let me just pause for a minute.

Isabel: 00:17:16

The name of your book is Cut the Shit Out and

Isabel: 00:17:21

the tagline?

Isabel: 00:17:23

It is Cut the Shit, Reframe Your Thinking, Regain Your Life.

Isabel: 00:17:27

Thank you.

Isabel: 00:17:28

That will be listed, of course, in the notes, and if you're curious and

Isabel: 00:17:35

you're thinking about is Beck's book a good stepping stone for me, just go

Isabel: 00:17:41

read the reviews on Amazon, because a published author, I know it's hard

Isabel: 00:17:45

to get people to write a review, but the reviews that are written will tell

Isabel: 00:17:50

you why this is a powerful resource for you if you're in that place of

Isabel: 00:17:58

spending too much time in your own shit.

Isabel: 00:18:00

I'm sorry, going back to, so the book was part of the

Isabel: 00:18:08

reframing of your own identity,

Becc: 00:18:10

it was part of building an authority and reframing my viewpoint from Simply

Becc: 00:18:18

a mental health professional to a mental health and spiritual authority.

Isabel: 00:18:26

Because those two should be together not

Isabel: 00:18:28

separate.

Isabel: 00:18:30

For me,

Becc: 00:18:31

For me, they really are.

Becc: 00:18:32

And I think people at that time were saying, how do you shift that?

Becc: 00:18:37

How, what's the difference between you as a therapist and you as a spiritual mentor?

Becc: 00:18:41

And I said, there isn't any.

Becc: 00:18:43

I feel like the work that I was doing had already, I'd always incorporated those

Becc: 00:18:48

spiritual pieces, I just didn't realize at the time that's what I was doing.

Isabel: 00:18:52

Of course.

Isabel: 00:18:55

Okay, so how do people get to know more about your style and what you

Isabel: 00:19:00

do, and what are some of the ways that they can be in your environment

Isabel: 00:19:07

and say, yeah, you know what?

Isabel: 00:19:10

It makes sense what she's saying.

Becc: 00:19:13

I have a youTube channel that is Beck

Becc: 00:19:16

Nelson LMFT, which is a licensed marriage and family therapist.

Becc: 00:19:20

And part of what I was doing when I was creating the book was

Becc: 00:19:23

also creating YouTube videos.

Becc: 00:19:26

So that gives you some perspective as to my my style, my thinking

Becc: 00:19:31

process, how I work with clients.

Becc: 00:19:33

This is a probably, I'm going to guess maybe.

Becc: 00:19:37

50 or 60 different videos in there now.

Becc: 00:19:41

Those are several years.

Isabel: 00:19:43

Make the popcorn and get in there.

Becc: 00:19:46

I'm guessing.

Becc: 00:19:46

I don't want to exaggerate, but a lot.

Isabel: 00:19:49

That's super.

Isabel: 00:19:50

I'm keen to delve in because I had, I wasn't aware that there

Isabel: 00:19:53

was that much there to draw on.

Isabel: 00:19:55

So thank you.

Isabel: 00:19:56

And I've heard you talk about Beccology.

Isabel: 00:19:59

So could you share a little more about that?

Becc: 00:20:01

Beccology is the the science of the Becc.

Becc: 00:20:05

I like to refer to myself in the third person.

Becc: 00:20:12

My name is Rebecca, but I like to call myself the Becc, and I am a Jedi, by the

Becc: 00:20:17

way, just, just in case you didn't know.

Becc: 00:20:19

And I'm on the Jedi Council.

Becc: 00:20:21

Beccology is my 90 day program that I, it's a 90 day spiritual mentoring program

Becc: 00:20:27

that I built specifically for people who are constant givers, who feel like

Becc: 00:20:33

they're not getting back the energy that they're putting into their relationships.

Becc: 00:20:38

So I was hearing a lot people saying things like I do this for all my friends

Becc: 00:20:42

and my relatives and then when it's my birthday or Christmas or whatever

Becc: 00:20:47

it is, I, people will text me and say happy birthday, but that's it.

Becc: 00:20:51

When it's their birthday, I go all out.

Becc: 00:20:53

I think about something that they said six months ago and I buy them this present and

Becc: 00:20:57

they're wowed, but I'm just not getting that energy back from those relationships

Becc: 00:21:01

and I'm tired and I'm starting to ask myself, is this all there is?

Becc: 00:21:06

And I had to first recognize that I was feeling that same way.

Becc: 00:21:11

I was saying those same comments.

Becc: 00:21:13

I would say, I would look at my stocking at Christmas and say, how

Becc: 00:21:17

come I make such an effort to make everybody else's stocking so special?

Becc: 00:21:20

And they're opening their little gifts, and then I'll open this one

Becc: 00:21:23

little thing, and I'll be like, Thanks, didn't they hear me say six

Becc: 00:21:26

times that I really wanted this?

Becc: 00:21:28

A piece of jewelry or whatever, and I recognized that I was in that same space.

Becc: 00:21:33

So Beccology is a program specifically for people that are saying, what

Becc: 00:21:37

do I need to do so that I can have relationships that reciprocate

Becc: 00:21:42

the energy that I put into them?

Isabel: 00:21:44

Oh my gosh.

Isabel: 00:21:46

I so know the value of what you're talking about and how many of us need

Isabel: 00:21:54

to have that objective guidance where, you know, when our nose is too close

Isabel: 00:22:00

to our own windshield, we don't see our behaviors, or Let me speak for myself.

Isabel: 00:22:04

I don't but I don't think I'm alone in that.

Isabel: 00:22:08

And so it's very good to have you turn the camera around and give

Isabel: 00:22:13

them some opportunities on that.

Isabel: 00:22:16

Yeah.

Isabel: 00:22:19

I wondered that whole thing about when you give a gift why are you

Isabel: 00:22:24

expecting the gift of undying gratitude and gushing praise back, right?

Isabel: 00:22:30

I have a hard time with that.

Becc: 00:22:33

It, it's difficult.

Becc: 00:22:35

I think a lot of people don't talk about it because there is that

Becc: 00:22:38

there's the guilt again, right?

Becc: 00:22:40

Like I'm just supposed to.

Becc: 00:22:41

Give unconditionally, and so I should feel badly when I start to feel resentful

Becc: 00:22:46

that I'm not getting that energy back.

Becc: 00:22:48

So you have to first face that piece and say, why am I giving?

Becc: 00:22:53

What is it that I'm really looking for?

Becc: 00:22:55

Usually the people that are constant givers in some way Enjoy service

Becc: 00:23:01

to others, but where's that line where it's no longer serving you?

Becc: 00:23:06

And can not be black or white?

Becc: 00:23:08

Either I'm all in or I just cut everybody off.

Becc: 00:23:11

And I think that's what people tend to do is say, that's it's great.

Becc: 00:23:13

I'm just going to cut everybody off.

Becc: 00:23:15

But the secondary piece that I've learned over time is that when you are

Becc: 00:23:20

somebody who hopes to get that energy back, and maybe that you almost need

Becc: 00:23:25

that to feed you, which is another level of that, is that now you put

Becc: 00:23:29

out into the universe, I only want people who will take advantage of that.

Becc: 00:23:36

And so you draw those people to you.

Becc: 00:23:38

So inevitably, everybody who's around you is a taker when you're a constant giver.

Becc: 00:23:43

So that's another part of that.

Isabel: 00:23:45

How sparks on the train track again, because it's true.

Isabel: 00:23:51

Yeah, absolutely.

Isabel: 00:23:53

You're inviting more of those people into your world by having that expectation

Isabel: 00:23:59

as opposed to when I am inspired, doesn't have to be a hallmark occasion

Isabel: 00:24:08

that I am giving because I want to.

Isabel: 00:24:11

There's no, there are no conditions attached to that.

Becc: 00:24:16

But also, if I start to recognize that there are people who constantly

Becc: 00:24:20

take, then how to pair back that relationship, either whether you stop it

Becc: 00:24:24

or completely, or you just pair it back a little bit, and that's conversations

Becc: 00:24:28

that we can have as part of the Beccology.

Isabel: 00:24:31

Yeah, I like that very much.

Isabel: 00:24:33

And, as I'm approaching this, new chapter of my life, which we talked a little

Isabel: 00:24:37

bit about off air, the Encore Explorer.

Isabel: 00:24:41

So I've put all my physical possessions into into storage and I'm going to travel

Isabel: 00:24:46

and so that requires me, as I travel around the world with my, my clients and

Isabel: 00:24:53

people that I know and love and people I haven't come to know yet, friends

Isabel: 00:24:58

I haven't made yet having stuff yet.

Isabel: 00:25:04

Or the, having those commitments to do all that stuff, shipping things here and

Isabel: 00:25:08

there and remembering dates and stuff.

Isabel: 00:25:11

I'm been more in the mode of detaching from possessions and creating space

Isabel: 00:25:19

for opportunity and experience.

Isabel: 00:25:23

I think we touched on this a bit before also about the law of the

Isabel: 00:25:27

vacuum and making room to draw in new things and new people.

Becc: 00:25:35

Yes, so the vacuum law is something that I've been enacting over the past six

Becc: 00:25:40

months in particular maybe a year, right?

Becc: 00:25:42

So the vacuum law of prosperity states that abundance will flow into your

Becc: 00:25:47

life when you create a vacuum for it.

Becc: 00:25:49

So in order to create the vacuum for the energy that you want, you have

Becc: 00:25:52

to let go of some of your attachments to no noticehin of scarcity.

Becc: 00:25:58

Are you ready to release fears and doubts?

Becc: 00:26:00

So it's a letting go of not just physical possessions, but also notions that no

Becc: 00:26:05

longer serve you and keep you stuck.

Becc: 00:26:10

For me, personally.

Becc: 00:26:11

Over the past year, The first thing that I did was I needed to make free homes.

Becc: 00:26:17

are my two horses, which broke my heart and still is this month, it'll be a

Becc: 00:26:22

year because we really recognized that it was, I was, again, starting to feel

Becc: 00:26:27

like, Oh, I'm tired of doing this.

Becc: 00:26:29

And this is a lot of work and it's taking a lot of my money, even though

Becc: 00:26:32

I obviously love my horses, and it was very difficult for me to move them along.

Becc: 00:26:38

I noticed that I was putting so much of my energy into it that I didn't have

Becc: 00:26:41

that energy available for other things.

Becc: 00:26:43

So that was the first piece that was difficult to.

Becc: 00:26:46

to move along.

Becc: 00:26:46

I think it was the right thing for us and me, but it doesn't mean it's any easier.

Isabel: 00:26:56

I am sure that it was hard to let go of something you had a great emotional

Isabel: 00:27:05

connection to but it's great that you have processes to help you work through.

Isabel: 00:27:15

That the right decision is at the right time, and how do I do so with

Isabel: 00:27:20

as much grace and ease as possible?

Isabel: 00:27:24

So whether it's, the relationship with.

Isabel: 00:27:27

your horses or when I was packing up I went through two very painful personal

Isabel: 00:27:34

letting goes, releasing, as I call them, and one was a lamp of my mother's

Isabel: 00:27:41

the old fashioned television lamp that furniture piece of furniture was the

Isabel: 00:27:45

TV in the living room and it had a lamp on it and the lamp had so many cracks

Isabel: 00:27:50

and it had been glued together so many times and the wiring was burnt out and

Isabel: 00:27:54

stuff but I kept carrying that around because I associated the memory of my

Isabel: 00:27:59

mother with that lamp, and finally this time I had a conversation with myself

Isabel: 00:28:05

and said the memory of my mother will always be with me in my head in my heart.

Isabel: 00:28:14

It's not in a piece of chipped up broken cheap ceramic, right?

Isabel: 00:28:20

And so it was hard.

Isabel: 00:28:22

I had a big cry but I walked myself to the trash bin and had a conversation

Isabel: 00:28:27

with my mother and I released her.

Isabel: 00:28:32

It was like letting the genie out of the bottle in some ways for both of us.

Isabel: 00:28:37

Maybe for my mother and maybe for, and definitely for me because I didn't keep

Isabel: 00:28:43

my feelings about her trapped in that old

Isabel: 00:28:46

lamp.

Becc: 00:28:48

What I love to do I'm relating to you because when we closed our

Becc: 00:28:52

office, which was now back in March, we had a 2000 square foot office.

Becc: 00:28:56

So we had 6 living rooms full of furniture.

Becc: 00:29:00

But also the waiting room and the kitchen, like we had tons of furniture.

Becc: 00:29:05

And I remember looking around saying, what about all this stuff?

Becc: 00:29:08

This is good stuff.

Becc: 00:29:09

I had a grandfather clock.

Becc: 00:29:12

And one of the things that helped me is that I, as I dropped each of these

Becc: 00:29:17

perfectly great pieces off to savers, to donate over the course of the several

Becc: 00:29:22

weeks was I thanked each individual piece for its service and what it did for us.

Becc: 00:29:27

And that I, I wasn't me letting go of it was not as a symbol of no longer

Becc: 00:29:33

being grateful or needing it, but that it was time to let somebody else.

Becc: 00:29:38

Benefit from these pieces.

Becc: 00:29:40

. And I think that helps my heart a little bit.

Becc: 00:29:43

And the sort of similar to what you're saying about releasing this lamp like

Becc: 00:29:47

this lamp does not represent my mother.

Becc: 00:29:50

I'm getting goosebumps as we're talking.

Becc: 00:29:51

But just to thank this lamp for its service to you,

Isabel: 00:29:56

that's a beautiful way to approach those.

Isabel: 00:30:00

They are.

Isabel: 00:30:01

Let's be honest.

Isabel: 00:30:02

It's a, it's an emotional thing, but to be able to say, Okay, thank you.

Isabel: 00:30:08

Thank you.

Isabel: 00:30:09

You can never have that taken away from you.

Isabel: 00:30:12

All right.

Isabel: 00:30:13

As always, when you and I get to talk, I want to keep on exploring and turning

Isabel: 00:30:23

the corners, because it's, I feel like there's just so much that we can share

Isabel: 00:30:28

and that I think may help someone else at some point in their journey.

Isabel: 00:30:36

Would you please come back another time and do this with me, because I would love

Isabel: 00:30:45

to have that together with you, and I'd like to continue to follow your success.

Becc: 00:30:53

Oh, I appreciate that.

Becc: 00:30:54

Thanks for letting me be part of it and being part of mine.

Becc: 00:30:56

I would love to come back.

Isabel: 00:30:58

Excellent.

Isabel: 00:30:59

All right.

Isabel: 00:30:59

For today, we're going to bring this train into the station, since

Isabel: 00:31:03

we have the theme going, but for everyone, please, if you're listening

Isabel: 00:31:11

to this on the podcast, make sure.

Isabel: 00:31:15

Pay attention, subscribe to Becc Becc's podcast too, and check out her book, and

Isabel: 00:31:21

check out her website, and for goodness sake, the science of Becc, Beccology,

Isabel: 00:31:29

smells like something that we all need to tap into she's a Jedi we're,

Isabel: 00:31:33

it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

Isabel: 00:31:37

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Isabel: 00:31:44

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Isabel: 00:31:53

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Isabel: 00:31:59

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Isabel: 00:32:04

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Isabel: 00:32:09

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Isabel: 00:32:18

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Isabel: 00:32:34

lot of questions about, is it time?

Isabel: 00:32:38

to do something different or can you transform yourself and your

Isabel: 00:32:43

relationship with your business?

Isabel: 00:32:45

Can you fire yourself as the chief cook and bottle washer and promote

Isabel: 00:32:49

yourself to the chairman of the board?

Isabel: 00:32:52

I'd love to help you with that.

Isabel: 00:32:55

Ciao for now, girl.

Isabel: 00:32:57

And I'll talk to you very soon.

Isabel: 00:32:59

And again, deep gratitude.

Isabel: 00:33:02

Thank you.

Becc: 00:33:03

Thanks for having me.

Becc: 00:33:04

Where did that time go?

Isabel: 00:33:06

I know the tongue flies.

Isabel: 00:33:08

Wow.

Isabel: 00:33:20

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Isabel: 00:33:23

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Isabel: 00:33:27

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Isabel: 00:33:30

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